Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Manthony Chopkins]

That really is B.S.  I love how the NPDs have slowly trickled down to nothing: first, we had the Top 20 every month; then the Top 10; then the Top 10 without specific platforms noted; and now absolutely nothing.  Brilliant, NPD!  This service was the only reason anyone cared about you.  I guess companies can still use them to find out how their competitors' games are selling, but we have no reliable data now to know how our favorite games are faring in the marketplace.
 
And I really enjoyed the monthly discussion on my various podcasts about the monthly NPDs, and that's mostly gone now.   

Well there's always that "one" site.

[Mop it up]

The key word in that bolded sentence is "reliable."

And without NPD numbers to help with their estimates, they are going to be even farther off.

[Manthony Chopkins]

The key word in that bolded sentence is "reliable."

And without NPD numbers to help with their estimates, they are going to be even farther off.

I know, I was just trying to make a joke. Which I'm obviously terrible at. Sorry for confusing you.

[BlackNMild2k1]

No, I got your joke, it's just that certain people around here don't actually have a sense of humor.

internetz is serious bizness and whatnot....

[Mop it up]

Don't feel bad, I do a lot of lame jokes too. I was trying to save you with a comment.

[SalesBot]

Media Create: 10/4 - 10/10

01.   /   01.    [NDS]   Pokemon Black / White   (Pokemon Co.)    - 231.638    / 3.992.855    (-38%)   
02.   /   00.    [PS3]   Gekijouban Macross F: Itsuwarino Utahime - Hybrid Pack   (Bandai Namco)    - 152.699    / NEW   
03.   /   00.    [NDS]   Kingdom Hearts Re:coded   (Square Enix)    - 95.505    / NEW   
04.   /   00.    [PS3]   Red Dead Redemption   (Take-Two Interactive)    - 70.599    / NEW   
05.   /   00.    [PSP]   Class of Heroes 3   (Acquire)    - 30.572    / NEW   
06.   /   08.    [WII]   Wii Party   (Nintendo)    - 26.259    / 1.099.428    (-21%)   
07.   /   00.    [360]   Red Dead Redemption   (Take-Two Interactive)    - 25.673    / NEW   
08.   /   00.    [PS3]   F1 2010   (Codemasters)    - 25.273    / NEW   
09.   /   05.    [PS3]   Dead Rising 2   (Capcom)    - 24.416    / 104.111    (-69%)   
10.   /   02.    [PSP]   K-On! After School Live!!   (Sega)    - 21.454    / 192.203    (-87%)   
11.   /   07.    [PSP]   Black Leopard: A New Tale of Yakuza   (Sega)    - 19.109    / 236.485    (-56%)   
12.   /   00.    [PS3]   Class of Heroes 3   (Acquire)    - 14.892    / NEW   
13.   /   03.    [NDS]   Okamiden   (Capcom)    - 12.829    / 97.300    (-85%)   
14.   /   04.    [PSP]   Eiyuu Densetsu: Zero no Kiseki   (Nihon Falcom)    - 11.147    / 95.507    (-87%)   
15.   /   00.    [NDS]   Tenkaichi Sengoku Lovers   (Rocket Company)    - 9.510    / NEW   
16.   /   00.    [PS3]   Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. 2   (Ubisoft)    - 8.921    / NEW   
17.   /   14.    [WII]   Super Mario Galaxy 2   (Nintendo)    - 6.991    / 849.567    (-8%)   
18.   /   10.    [PSP]   Dragon Ball Z: Tenkaichi Tag Team   (Bandai Namco)    - 6.734    / 25.814    (-65%)   
19.   /   06.    [360]   Dead Rising 2   (Capcom)    - 6.297    / 50.097    (-86%)   
20.   /   16.    [PSP]   Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best Reprint]   (Capcom)    - 6.261    / 443.365    (-7%)   


PS3 - 6
PSP - 6
NDS - 4
WII - 2
360 - 2
PS2 - 0

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|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
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|  NDS  |     50.038  |     54.890  |  1.917.244  |  31.196.324  |
|  PSP  |     34.874  |     37.842  |  1.595.170  |  15.338.258  |
|  PS3  |     19.948  |     20.363  |  1.099.195  |   5.600.562  |
|  WII  |     12.158  |     13.360  |  1.072.732  |  10.677.931  |
|  360  |      2.746  |      2.769  |    167.482  |   1.377.154  |
|  PS2  |      1.373  |      1.247  |     65.536  |  21.675.713  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
| DSiLL |     21.777  |     24.246  |    967.414  |   1.474.321  |
|  DSi  |     22.301  |     24.937  |    762.805  |   5.101.751  |
|  DSL  |      5.960  |      5.707  |    187.025  |  18.034.781  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
|  PSP  |     33.683  |     37.088  |  1.545.373  |  15.212.706  |
| PSPgo |      1.191  |        754  |     49.797  |     125.552  |
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[TJ Spyke]

I will miss the NPD numbers, but we have to remember that they were choosing to give us any info at all. They are a business and they make their money by companies (like the game publishers) paying a subscription fee to get the data. The full reports are much more detailed, including a list of every single game (even if the game is 8 years old and sells just 1 copy that month), and they even break down sales by SKU (so Nintendo could see exactly how many of each color of the DSi sells, for example).

[Stratos]

I will miss the NPD numbers, but we have to remember that they were choosing to give us any info at all. They are a business and they make their money by companies (like the game publishers) paying a subscription fee to get the data. The full reports are much more detailed, including a list of every single game (even if the game is 8 years old and sells just 1 copy that month), and they even break down sales by SKU (so Nintendo could see exactly how many of each color of the DSi sells, for example).

I remember reading one of the full leaked lists and it listed a single sale of Conkers Bad Fur Day on N64 in like 2004. It is ridiculously detailed. Makes me wish we could get hold of it.

[Chozo Ghost]

The Wii only has two titles on the chart and is still being outsold by the PS3 in terms of hardware. No matter how you slice it that isn't looking very good. And as far as handhelds go, the PSP has 6 titles on the charts whereas the NDS only has 4 so that's not very good either. I recall the good old days from just a couple years ago when the NDS was kicking ass left and right in Japan, and the PSP was a non-entity. Man, things have really changed...

If you add it all up, Nintendo systems have 6 games on the chart, but Sony systems have twice that much. This sucks.

[KDR_11k]

The DS is very close to being replaced, what do you expect?

[SalesBot]

Chart Track - Week 40, 2010

UK: Week 40, 2010 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (01) 360 Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) PS3 Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
03 (__) PS3 Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
04 (05) 360 Halo: Reach (Microsoft)
05 (06) 360 Dead Rising 2 (Capcom)
06 (__) 360 Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
07 (04) PS3 F1 2010 (Codemasters)
08 (03) 360 F1 2010 (Codemasters)
09 (07) PS3 Dead Rising 2 (Capcom)
10 (13) WII Just Dance (Ubisoft)
11 (__) PS3 Castlevania: Lords Of Shadow (Konami)
12 (__) WII Wii Party (Nintendo)
13 (__) 360 Enslaved: Odyssey To The West (Namco Bandai Games)
14 (08) WII Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
15 (__) 360 Castlevania: Lords Of Shadow (Konami)
16 (__) PS3 Enslaved: Odyssey To The West (Namco Bandai Games)
17 (10) PSP Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
18 (09) PS3 Sports Champions (Sony Computer Ent.)
19 (15) WII Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
20 (40) WII Dance On Broadway (Ubisoft)
21 (18) WII New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
22 (19) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
23 (20) PS3 Tiger Woods Pga Tour 11 (Electronic Arts)
24 (16) WII Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
25 (12) PS2 Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
26 (__) NDS Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
27 (__) PS3 Wrc: Fia World Rally Championship (Tradewest)
28 (__) 360 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
29 (26) 360 Forza Motorsport 3 (Microsoft)
30 (22) WII Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
31 (17) NDS Art Academy (Nintendo)
32 (27) NDS Toy Story 3 (Disney Interactive Studios)
33 (11) PC Civilization V (Take 2)
34 (__) 360 Wrc: Fia World Rally Championship (Tradewest)
35 (__) PS3 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
36 (14) 360 Guitar Hero: Warriors Of Rock (Activision Blizzard)
37 (35) WII Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
38 (23) 360 Sniper: Ghost Warrior (City Interactive)
39 (__) 360 Tiger Woods Pga Tour 11 (Electronic Arts)
40 (29) WII Grease: The Official Video Game (505 Games)

Netherlands: Week 40, 2010
01 (01) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
03 (__) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
04 (__) [PS2] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
05 (04) [360] Halo: Reach (Microsoft)
06 (03) [PS3] F1 2010 (Codemasters)
07 (03) [PC] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
08 (__) [WII] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
09 (07) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
10 (__) [360] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)

France: week 39, 2010
01 (__) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (__) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
03 (01) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
04 (01) [PS3] F1 2010 (Codemasters)
05 (__) [360] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)

Spain: September 2010
01 (__) [PS3] F1 2010
02 (__) [PS3] Starter Pack (Move)
03 (02) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii
04 (__) [360] F1 2010
05 (__) [PS3] Mafia II
06 (__) [360] Halo: Reach
07 (01) [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
08 (04) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
09 (__) [PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep
10 (__) [PS3] Sports Champions

Italy: Week 39, 2010
01 (__) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
02 (__) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
03 (__) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
04 (__) [360] Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 (Konami)
05 (__) [PS2] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
06 (01) [PS3] F1 2010 (Codemasters)
07 (__) [PSP] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
08 (03) [PS3] Sports Champions (Sony)
09 (02) [360] F1 2010 (Codemasters)
10 (04) [360] Halo: Reach (Microsoft)

Finland: Week 39 + 40, 2010
01 (__) FIFA 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) NHL 11 (Electronic Arts)
03 (02) SingStar SuomiHitit (Sony)
04 (__) WRC FIA World Rally Championship (Black Bean)
05 (04) Civilization V (Take 2)
06 (05) F1 2010 (Codemasters)
07 (07) NHL Slapshot (Electronic Arts)
08 (06) Sports Champions (Sony)
09 (__) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
10 (__) Battlefield Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts)

Germany: Week 40, 2010
01 (01) [PS3] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) [360] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
03 (03) [PS3] PES 2011 (Konami)
04 (__) [PS3] Castlevania: Lords of Shadow (Konami)
05 (04) [PS2] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
06 (05) [PS3] F1 2010 (Codemasters)
07 (__) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
08 (06) [PSP] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
09 (07) [WII] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)
10 (__) [NDS] Fifa 11 (Electronic Arts)

[Peachylala]

If you add it all up, Nintendo systems have 6 games on the chart, but Sony systems have twice that much. This sucks.

Really doesn't matter to me considering these are games that are either: a) big budget JRPGs that the country will gobble up regardless. b) bi-yearly entries in popular Japanese only franchises. c) Monster Hunter.

[BranDonk Kong]

It's time to change the name of this thread to "Offical Wii Sales (or lack thereof) Thread." Get on it.

[SalesBot]

NPD September 2010

01. Halo: Reach (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 3.3million
02. Madden NFL 11 (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, Wii, PSP)
03. Dead Rising 2 (Capcom, Xbox 360, PS3, PC) - 370,000
04. NHL 11 (EA, Xbox 360, PS3)
05. FIFA Soccer 11 (EA, Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Nintendo DS)
06. Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep (Square Enix, PSP) - 225,000
07. Mafia II (Take 2 Interactive, Xbox 360, PS3, PC)
08. Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions (Activision Blizzard, PS3, 360, NDS, Wii)
09. Metroid: Other M (Nintendo, Wii) - 173,000
10.  Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360, PS3, PC)

xx.  Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock (All Platforms) - 86,000

PS Move - ~300,000

X360 - 483,989
NDS -  403,000
PS3 - 312,000
WII -  254,000

YTD
X360 - 3.209 million
WII - 3.208 million
*look for this post to be updated with more info*

[Shaymin]

NPD September 2010
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep (Square Enix, PSP)
...
Metroid: Other M (Nintendo, Wii)

I said goddamn.

[broodwars]

NPD September 2010

Halo: Reach (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 3.3million
Madden NFL 11 (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, Wii, PSP)
Dead Rising 2 (Capcom, Xbox 360, PS3, PC)
NHL 11 (EA, Xbox 360, PS3)
FIFA Soccer 11 (EA, Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Nintendo DS)
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep (Square Enix, PSP)
Mafia II (Take 2 Interactive, Xbox 360, PS3, PC)
Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions (Activision Blizzard, PS3, 360, NDS, Wii)
Metroid: Other M (Nintendo, Wii)
Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360, PS3, PC)

Xbox 360 - 483,989


*look for this post to be updated with more info*

Nice to see that Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions made the Top 10, as I had a lot of fun with that one even if the reviewers didn't.  I'm surprised to see that Other M even made the Top 10 for September, though if it only made #9 in (what's essentially) it's first month, that doesn't bode well for the game's sales in NA.  I get the feeling it wouldn't even be in the Top 10 if NPD didn't compress all the versions of each game into a single entry.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Frazier helpfully noted that if the top 10 were ranked by SKU, New Super Mario Bros. Wii would have cracked the top 10, as usual.

You know what that means...
If

5. Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep (Square Enix, PSP)
8. Metroid: Other M (Nintendo, Wii)

all made the Top 10 in combined SKU chart, then they obviously would have only been higher up the chart in a single SKU chart that also included NSMBWii

[broodwars]

all made the Top 10 in combined SKU chart, then they obviously would have only been higher up the chart in a single SKU chart that also included NSMBWii

You don't know that for certain.  It's also quite possible that we'd see 360 and PS3 versions of some of the higher games up on the list taking 2 spots instead of one, like Madden NFL 11; Dead Rising 2; NHL 11; and perhaps even FIFA Soccer 11 (though I doubt it, given Soccer's relative popularity in North America compared to Europe).

[BlackNMild2k1]

I guess you're technically right....

but if Metroid: OM is already on the Top 10 as a single SKU and NSMBW would have made the Top 10 if they were all listed as single SKU, then MOM would still be on the TOP 10 since it obviously sold more than NSMBW. It might have been at #9(because NSMBW would've been #10) or stayed at #8 so I guess you are technically right, it might not have "obviously" been higher up on the charts.


Not having numbers really sucks though. I hope someone finds a leak somewhere and post it.

[broodwars]

Not having numbers really sucks though. I hope someone finds a leak somewhere and post it.

Indeed.  It is a very dark day when VGChartz has our most accurate sales numbers for a given title.

[Chozo Ghost]

NPD's decision came at a bad time, because I was really looking forward to M:OM's sales total for the month of September. Hopefully the numbers will get leaked soon, preferably to the fullest detail.

[Luigi Dude]

Metroid numbers are out, Other M sold 173,000 copies. 

In comparison Prime 3 did 218,000 it's first month.  Of course the last 2D Metroid, Zero Mission sold 151,000 copies it's first month and the one before that, Fusion did about 200,000 it's first month.  So while Other M isn't doing as well as the Prime games, it is doing around what the 2D Metroids which it's more similar to did.  Plus we don't know if it's legs will be like Fusion or Zero Mission.  Fusion went on to sell over 900,000 copies in North America while Zero Mission only sold over 400,000. 

So why not exactly a great start, it's a half-way decent start.  If it can at least manage to have legs similar to Fusion I wouldn't be surprised if we get another game like it in the future.  Of course I doubt a sequel will be allowed to have the production value budget that Other M did, but consider Other M's movies were one of the least liked parts of the game, I don't think anyone will care if they're gone.

[KDR_11k]

So Metroid is doomed then.

[Luigi Dude]

So Metroid is doomed then.

No it's not.  Like I said before Other M is still putting up numbers similar to other games at this point in there lifespans and could have some decent legs as well.

The only part of Metroid that's doomed is Sakamoto being allowed to put lots of cutscenes and FMV's with voice acting in any future installments since I'd imagine Nintendo isn't going to be willing to spend lots of money on big production values for a Metroid game after Other M's start.  But considering that's what you hate the most in Metroid games you should be happy now since any future Metroid game from Sakamoto will have to be mostly gameplay since he won't be allowed to spend a lot on production values.

[SalesBot]

NPD September 2010

01. Halo: Reach (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 3.3million
02. Madden NFL 11 (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, Wii, PSP)
03. Dead Rising 2 (Capcom, Xbox 360, PS3, PC) - 370,000
04. NHL 11 (EA, Xbox 360, PS3)
05. FIFA Soccer 11 (EA, Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Nintendo DS)
06. Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep (Square Enix, PSP) - 225,000
07. Mafia II (Take 2 Interactive, Xbox 360, PS3, PC)
08. Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions (Activision Blizzard, PS3, 360, NDS, Wii)
09. Metroid: Other M (Nintendo, Wii) - 173,000
10.  Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360, PS3, PC)

xx.  Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock (All Platforms) - 86,000

PS Move - ~300,000

X360 - 483,989
NDS -  403,000
PS3 - 312,000
WII -  254,000

YTD
X360 - 3.209 million
WII - 3.208 million
*look for this post to be updated with more info*

Wii is still the fasting selling console

After 47 months:
WII - 30.4 million
PS2 - 24.6 million (~46 million LTD)
NDS - 22.4 million (~43 million LTD)