Topic: GBA Ambassador Games Available Everywhere

[ejamer]

Calm down?  Good suggestion. Hopefully the apologists who get up in arms when it's suggested that NoA could (and in fact should) be handling things differently will take that under consideration.
 


(For the record, Australia and Japan got their games on Thursday -  in Australia, it's only 10am on Friday as I write this. I don't think anyone in the thread has complained about that at all, and personally couldn't care less.)

[Bman87301]

You missed the point on mine as well.  It's not so much of a we will be getting these games X date.  Its more of a "Yes the rest of the world knows when they are getting their new toy.  We haven't forgotten about you.  You are still getting your toy.  Just not now."

I didn't miss your point at all. Your point just wasn't valid-- you're whining because over something so pointless it wasn't even worth doing in the first place, let alone be worth complaining about.

[Ceric]

You missed the point on mine as well.  It's not so much of a we will be getting these games X date.  Its more of a "Yes the rest of the world knows when they are getting their new toy.  We haven't forgotten about you.  You are still getting your toy.  Just not now."

I didn't miss your point at all. Your point just wasn't valid-- you're whining because over something so pointless it wasn't even worth doing in the first place, let alone be worth complaining about.

You should never go into PR or Politics.

[stevey]

What's with all the Nintendo hate? Can't NOA do a surprise x-mas release in 10 days without the unfaithful bashing them?

[TJ Spyke]

People like to complain, even when they are getting free stuff.

[Mop it up]

I'm just glad that the GBA games are actually good ones, there are definitely some junk games they could have chosen. Nintendo can take all the time they want to make them available, as long as the US is getting the same list.

[UncleBob]

I will actually argue in favor of a very small group of people with regards to the whining/entitlement attitude.

Those who purchased the system during that small time period where Nintendo announced that you'd be eligible for the free games if you bought a system then.

Those people deserve the free games because they made their decision based on the offer of free games.

Everyone else, sit down and be patient.  Nintendo owes you nothing more than they offered when you made the purchase.  To say "well, this, this, this, give me more!" is bull crap - If Nintendo came back to you and said "Hey, remember that 3DS you bought last year?  Well, the US dollar has tanked, therefore we feel you should pay us another $80 - after all, we've given you so much happiness over the years." - how would that sit with you?

Gift horses and mouths, people.  This kind of attitude is why we didn't get a Club Nintendo for so long.  Instead of being thankful for what we get, we crap in Nintendo's hand, tell them it's gold, they should be thankful and give us more.

[ejamer]

This thread is ridiculous.

Some people express reasonable disappointment and get bashed? Hoping for some type of notification from NoA isn't asking the world. Wishing that NoA could try to live up to (not even exceed, just match) the quality job done by every other major Nintendo division around the world isn't a sense of entitlement.



And again, is anyone complaining that the games aren't out yet?  I hear a lot of "sit down and shut up" about that... but I don't see that as the issue people are concerned about. I bought the system expressly because of those games - that added value was necessary to make the purchase worthwhile - yet I don't personally care if the games take until the middle of next year as long as they arrive eventually and play well.

What I do see is a fear that NoA in particular is failing to communicate well and manage appropriate expectations for their consumers. Japan is doing a better job. Europe is doing a better job. Australia is doing a better job. America used to set the standard... but lately it feels like they've simply fallen off the rails. Is someone asleep at the wheel, or are they understaffed and having a tough time to keep up, or do they really believe (as was suggested before) that communicating with their customers isn't necessary or beneficial?  Who knows. They haven't told us.

Oh well. Guess I'm just not one of the faithful.

[UncleBob]

It's called managing your expectations.

Nintendo of America has always - ALWAYS - been horrible at communicating.  Period.

Hoping for some type of notification from NoA isn't asking the world.

You got it a few months ago when they said "by the end of 2011."

Wishing that NoA could try to live up to (not even exceed, just match) the quality job done by every other major Nintendo division around the world isn't a sense of entitlement.

A.) "Wishing" it, no.  Making public statements, condemning a company because they don't follow what your perceived schedule of announcements is?  Yeah....

B.) Did Nintendo APL even make an announcement beforehand?

[Shaymin]

I will actually argue in favor of a very small group of people with regards to the whining/entitlement attitude.

Those who purchased the system during that small time period where Nintendo announced that you'd be eligible for the free games if you bought a system then.

Those people deserve the free games because they made their decision based on the offer of free games.

As someone who's in this category, I'd act like an entitled prick right now... but I'm too busy downloading my Ambassador games to care.

[oohhboy]

The only Nintendo APL announcement we got was from the Ambassador "Program" via spotpass, exactly what it was built for. I figure NOA would follow suit in time. As to why there is such an extensive delay is odd. Normally the delay hits NZ/AUS since we pass the dateline first so we get things a "day" late. This time we got things a whole day early, 2 days if you were to factor in the normal delay.

[TheFleece]

Hey everyone! The games are up for download now!


Go to the eShop>Settings>Your Downloads and go through the list of NES Ambassador games. They were on the second page for me. You can even que them up to download in Sleep Mode.


Minish Cap!!

[Ceric]

This thread is ridiculous.

Some people express reasonable disappointment and get bashed? Hoping for some type of notification from NoA isn't asking the world. Wishing that NoA could try to live up to (not even exceed, just match) the quality job done by every other major Nintendo division around the world isn't a sense of entitlement.



And again, is anyone complaining that the games aren't out yet?  I hear a lot of "sit down and shut up" about that... but I don't see that as the issue people are concerned about. I bought the system expressly because of those games - that added value was necessary to make the purchase worthwhile - yet I don't personally care if the games take until the middle of next year as long as they arrive eventually and play well.

What I do see is a fear that NoA in particular is failing to communicate well and manage appropriate expectations for their consumers. Japan is doing a better job. Europe is doing a better job. Australia is doing a better job. America used to set the standard... but lately it feels like they've simply fallen off the rails. Is someone asleep at the wheel, or are they understaffed and having a tough time to keep up, or do they really believe (as was suggested before) that communicating with their customers isn't necessary or beneficial?  Who knows. They haven't told us.

Oh well. Guess I'm just not one of the faithful.

Yes.

The fact is we are downloading these games now not because we recieved a Spotpass notification that was explicitily promised in the Ambassador App we downloaded but, because people were so excited to get these games that they figured it work like last time and checked on the off chance they be there.  They happen to be.  No word from NoA still that they even exist.

The question now is are they really suppose to be available and will they take them away?  The  answer is who knows and we all know they won't redact them from people systems. 

I had enough time this morning at home to check my 3DS to see if NoA pulled through and told me the games are ready.  They had not.  I closed my 3DS and took it to work.  Come to find out here at work from the forums that I should have went into the eShop, checked my download lists, and then I see they were in fact there.

I like to reiterate that I downloaded a specific app that sole purpose in existance is to notify me when Ambassador items are available. And I quote:

If you would like to recieve updates regarding the Ambassador Program, such as when new titles are made available, you can update your notification settings by tapping the "Recieve" button on the bottom Screen.

Which I had when I downloaded the application because its now a button to not recieve notifications.

I like Nintendo in general and I tend to be harder on the things I like.  The rest of Nintendo had set the bar on this.  I don't think its really to much to ask for the Applications whose only reason to exist is to notify me of this exact occurance to do its job.  It be like shipping a game that had no gameplay.

[UncleBob]

I can't speak for Nintendo, but judging by how things went the last round, I'd say later today, there will me a SpotPass message sent out saying "Hey, your games are ready."

I'd be willing to guess this is so the servers aren't hit has hard.  This, basically, splits the userbase into two groups - the first group who reads about it online and downloads everything and the second group who finds out about it via the SpotPass message, then downloads everything.

Remember how SLOW it was downloading the new system update when it went live?  Could you imagine if everyone was downloading all then GBA games at once?  I don't think the eShop would survive.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Hey everyone! The games are up for download now!


Go to the eShop>Settings>Your Downloads and go through the list of NES Ambassador games. They were on the second page for me. You can even que them up to download in Sleep Mode.


Minish Cap!!

Great! Downloading Now!!!

[motang]

Loved that I was able to queue them all up and let them download in the background, and now I am addicted to Youshi's Island.

[NWR_Neal]

I played a race in F-Zero (meh) and the first round of microgames in WarioWare (awesome). I wish I could just sit and play all these games all day.

[Bman87301]

For the record, Australia and Japan got their games on Thursday -  in Australia, it's only 10am on Friday as I write this. I don't think anyone in the thread has complained about that at all, and personally couldn't care less.

I'm fairly certain you're wrong about it being released on Thursday in Japan, though if it was, it was definitely at least approaching midnight when they went up.

As for Australia, it may not have been Friday yet in all timezones, but are you sure it wasn't wherever Nintendo's Australian headquarters is based out of?

I know while I'm on the east coast of the US, NOA is based on the West-- which three hours behind, so I assumed they wouldn't be up until 3:00 AM where I am. And I certainly seemed to be right as when I checked a little after midnight last night, they still weren't up. Yet when when I woke up this morning at 7:00, they were up. So, I'm very confident that I was right.

[NintendoFanboy]

Sleep mode download works, even though they are small, i downloaded a couple instantly, and que-ed(?)
up the rest. must be in home menu, in sleep, no suspended software.
put it on the cradle, came back later, they were in my menu, waiting to be opened and arranged.
now, put them according to name, zeldas together, metroids, etc.
put them according to system?
humm, how to do it??

[Ceric]

I can't speak for Nintendo, but judging by how things went the last round, I'd say later today, there will me a SpotPass message sent out saying "Hey, your games are ready."

I'd be willing to guess this is so the servers aren't hit has hard.  This, basically, splits the userbase into two groups - the first group who reads about it online and downloads everything and the second group who finds out about it via the SpotPass message, then downloads everything.

Remember how SLOW it was downloading the new system update when it went live?  Could you imagine if everyone was downloading all then GBA games at once?  I don't think the eShop would survive.

That make sense.  I'm guessing they don't have the tech to say do a random 500 people at a time with notifications.

Though I hope some respected profession thats actually done server load optimization etc.  Take a look at there infrastructure for there digital downloads and gets it squared away before Wii U.

[UncleBob]

Nintendo?  Online Infrastructure?  Optimization?  This forum really needs to work on managing its expectations.

[Ceric]

Nintendo?  Online Infrastructure?  Optimization?  This forum really needs to work on managing its expectations.

[TrueNerd]

Good news everyone! Metroid Fusion is still awesome!

[NintendoFanboy]

Yea, ummmm anyone actually gonna play Mario kart super curcuit, or what its call on the gba, when
7 is out?  But Zelda Minish cap looks and plays great.
 Oh and save your games, the "Suspend" thing doesnt work like the Nes, lost 1/2 hour of Minish cap progress, that intro is boring, twice.  LOL

[Traveller]

Yea, ummmm anyone actually gonna play Mario kart super curcuit, or what its call on the gba, when
7 is out?  But Zelda Minish cap looks and plays great.
 Oh and save your games, the "Suspend" thing doesnt work like the Nes, lost 1/2 hour of Minish cap progress, that intro is boring, twice.  LOL

Super Circuit is a way better single player game than 7!