Topic: Official Sales Thread

[DAaaMan64]

Man thats a shame. Maybe people won't trust a game with Red Steel 2's developer on the box.

No.

They didn't even notice the game, consumers don't think that hard. Lets face it, 95% of the 3rd party games we want, the games we talk about, don't sell on Wii. Its friggin' hopeless.

[SalesBot]

Famitsu: March 2010 (03/01/2010 - 03/28/2010)

Top 20:
01. [PS3] Ryuu Ga Gotoku 4: Densetsu wo Tsugumono (Sega) - 480.626 / 480.626
02. [PS3] Hokuto Musou (Koei) - 385.551 / 385.551
03. [NDS] Pokemon Ranger: Path of Light (Pokemon) - 330.801 / 330.801
04. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 167.875 / 3.587.755
05. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) - 155.340 / 3.085.838
06. [PSP] Gundam Assault Survive (Bandai Namco Games) - 124.048 / 124.048
07. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 102.873 / 1.787.860
08. [PSP] .hack//Link (Bandai Namco Games) - 94.590 / 94.590
09. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Sky (Square Enix) - 88.173 / 88.173
10. [PSP] God Eater (Bandai Namco Games) - 76.322 / 572.372
11. [PS3] Nobunaga no Yabou: Tendou (Koei) - 75.598 / 186.340
12. [PSP] Kenka Bancho 4: Ichinen Sensou (Spike) - 74.326 / 147.249
13. [PSP] Shin Sangoku Musou: Multi Raid 2 (Koei) - 68.468 / 68.468
14. [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida 3D (SCE) - 65.552 / 65.552
15. [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Alternative Edition (Capcom) - 53.770 / 240.110
16. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon) - 49.029 / 3.663.655
17. [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts) - 48.083 / 48.083
18. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo) - 45.348 / 639.401
19. [PS3] God of War III (SCE) - 44.583 / 44.583
20. [PSP] Zettai Hero: Kaizou Keikaku (Nippon Ichi Software) - 41.333 / 41.333
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/gmgk/m/

NDS Top 10
01. [NDS] Pokemon Ranger: Path of Light (Pokemon) - 330.801 / 330.801
02. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) - 155.340 / 3.085.838
03. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Sky (Square Enix) - 88.173 / 88.173
04. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon) - 49.029 / 3.663.655
05. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo) - 45.348 / 639.401
06. [NDS] Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Reverie (Square Enix) - 34.181 / 72.923
07.
08. [NDS] Keroro RPG: Kishi to Musha to Densetsu no Kaizoku (Bandai Namco Games) - 32.448 / 1.280.088
09. [NDS] RPG Maker DS (Enterbrain) - 31.896 / 31.896
10. [NDS] Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix) - 27.254 / 27.254
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/gmds/m/

PS2 Top 10:
01. [PS2] Summon Night: Gran-Thesis - Horobi no Ken to Yakusoku no Kishi (Bandai Namco Games) - 9.905 / 9.905
02. [PS2] S.Y.K. Renshouden (Idea Factory) - 6.546 / 6.546
03. [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami) - 5.239 / 101.499
04. [PS2] Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (Konami Dendou Collection) (Konami) - 2.708 / 12.921
05. [PS2] Resident Evil 4 (Playstation 2 the Best Reprint) (Capcom) - 2.572 / 106.808
06. [PS2] Kiniro no Corda 3 (Koei) - 2.194 / 10.119
07. [PS2] Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix+ (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix) - 2.120 / 97.711
08. [PS2] Nobunaga no Yabou - Tenka Sousei with Power-Up Kit (BEST) (Koei) - 2.035 / 13.567
09. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2009 Club Championship (Konami) - 2.004 / 92.810
10. [PS2] Momotaro Dentetsu 16: Hokkaido Daiido no Maki (PlayStation 2 the Best) (Hudson) - 1.909 / 65.918
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/gmps/m/

[SalesBot]

Famitsu Top 10: 3/29 - 4/04

1. [NDS] Etrian Odyssey III (Atlus) - 96k
2. [PS3] Hokuto Musou (Koei) - 82k
3. [PS3] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 78k
4. [PSP] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 66k
5. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
6. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo)
7. [PS3] Yakuza 4 (Sega) ~ 32k
8. [PSP] Dead or Alive Paradise (Koei Tecmo Games) ~ 32k
9. [NDS] Pokemon Ranger: Path of Light (Pokemon)
10. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)

xx. [PS2] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2010 - 23k
xx. [NDS] Nicola Kanshuu - 19k

[Peachylala]

Man thats a shame. Maybe people won't trust a game with Red Steel 2's developer on the box.

No.

They didn't even notice the game, consumers don't think that hard. Lets face it, 95% of the 3rd party games we want, the games we talk about, don't sell on Wii. Its friggin' hopeless.

Not exactly, if positive word of mouth spreads via the people who bought the game (like us), then the game has a chance. On the other hand, Nintendo's whiny fanbase are too strung up over the (valid) fact that Ubi has given us nothing but crap these past couple of years despite a good (READ: good, not great) game here and there.

Face it, we can't win.

[SalesBot]

Media Create: 3/29 - 4/04

01. / 00.  [NDS] Etrian Odyssey III: Caller of the Starry Seas (Atlus Co.) - 88.000 / NEW
02. / 01. [PS3] Fist of the North Star: Warriors (Koei) - 72.000 / 457.000 (-81%)
03. / 00. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 57.000 / NEW
04. / 00. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 51.000 / NEW
05. / 04. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 42.000 / 3.617.000 (-18%)
06. / 05. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 35.000 / 3.067.000 (-20%)
07. / 02. [PS3] Yakuza 4: Heir to the Legend (Sega) - 34.000 / 501.000 (-59%)
08. / 03. [NDS] Pokemon Ranger: Tracks of Light (Pokemon Co.) - 33.000 / 360.000 (-36%)
09. / 00. [PSP] Dead or Alive: Paradise (Tecmo) - 32.000 / NEW
10. / 00. [PS2] Pro Baseball Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 21.000 / NEW

11. / 09. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
12. / 00. [NDS] Hudson x GReeeeN Live!? DeeeeS!? (Hudson)
13. / 06. [PS3] God of War III (SCE)
14. / 12. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP the Best Reprint) (Capcom)
15. / 00. [NDS] Nicola Kanshuu: Model Oshare Audition (Alchemist)
16. / 08. [PSP] Gundam: Assault Survive (Namco Bandai)
17. / 14. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
18. / 23. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
19. / 18. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
20. / 15. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix)
21. / 17. [PSP] God Eater (Namco Bandai)
22. / 11. [NDS] Pro Baseball Family Stadium DS 2010 (Namco Bandai)
23. / 22. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo)
24. / 21. [NDS] Crayon Shin-Chan: Obaka Daininden - Susume! Kasukabe Ninja Tai! (Namco Bandai)
25. / 20. [PSP] Holy Invasion of Privacy, Badman! 3D (SCE)
26. / 25. [PSP] Kenka Bancho 4: One Year War (Spike)
27. / 33. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.)
28. / 19. [PSP] Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce 2 (Koei)
29. / 28. [NDS] Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Reviere (Square Enix)
30. / 07. [360] Fist of the North Star: Warriors (Koei)

NDS - 12
PSP - 8
PS3 - 4
WII - 4
360 - 1
PS2 - 1


PS3 - 38,877
PSP - 37,445
Wii - 30,938
DSiLL - 21,583
DSi - 15,526
DSL - 4,110
X360 - 2,676
PS2 - 1,815
PSPgo - 1,803

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NDS 41,219
PSP 39,260

[KDR_11k]

I didn't know Etrian Odyssey was that popular in Japan.

[Ian Sane]

Perhaps Red Steel 2 isn't selling so well because people bought Red Steel, thought it sucked, and decided to stay far away from the sequel.  I was shocked that the sequel was such a critical success.  Isn't it normal to assume that a crap game will have a crap sequel?  Sequels are considered safe bets but it's got to be a strong brand to begin with.  I question the logic is making sequels to games that are not considered very good.  You've already made a bad first impression.

[TJ Spyke]

Red Steel was a case where where the game had good concepts and ideas, just with flawed execution of them.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Red Steel was a case where where the game had good concepts and ideas, just with flawed execution of them.

It was a rushed launch game afterall.

[Shaymin]

I didn't know Etrian Odyssey was that popular in Japan.

The first one launched with 30k and the second with 60k. so they're building a fanbase for them if nothing else.

[Chozo Ghost]

Perhaps Red Steel 2 isn't selling so well because people bought Red Steel, thought it sucked, and decided to stay far away from the sequel.  I was shocked that the sequel was such a critical success.  Isn't it normal to assume that a crap game will have a crap sequel?  Sequels are considered safe bets but it's got to be a strong brand to begin with.  I question the logic is making sequels to games that are not considered very good.  You've already made a bad first impression.

The decision to make a sequel was probably spurred on by the fact the original Red Steel did sell very well. It was a launch title, and back then people didn't realize the Wii was the non-gamer system that 3rd parties liked to use as a toilet. Now, that reputation is pretty firmly entrenched and people who cared about real games have moved onto other systems.

I agree the reason RS2 is failing is because of the bad rep 3rd parties have already made for themselves on the system. When they make a quality title it will get ignored, because no one expects it or is looking for it anymore.

But you shouldn't be shocked that RS2 is a quality title, because Ubisoft did specifically say they were taking their time with it and did intend to get it right. Of course, people and companies do lie, but it wasn't like they didn't try to convince us this game would be done right.

All that said, I do intend to get RS2 myself at some point, but I'm just waiting for the price to fall. I realize that means I'm part of the problem, but I'm not wealthy and don't have money to just grab games full priced at launch.

[Chozo Ghost]

Red Steel was a case where where the game had good concepts and ideas, just with flawed execution of them.

It was a rushed launch game afterall.

Doesn't RS2 make use of motion+? That wasn't something even available for RS1 to include at the time, so RS2 is guaranteed to be a better game just for including that because the original didn't.

Better late than never, I suppose. I'm really depressed though, because I fear this may be the last serious hardcore 3rd party Wii game the rest of this generation. By now we should be up to our waist in games like this, but it took all these years just to get one single worthwhile game and I don't think anymore are lurking out over the horizon. It is possible some will be announced at E3, but now that Sony has its own motion thing, I'm really afraid that everything is going to go to that...

[BlackNMild2k1]

Why is everyone saying RS2 failed already? Where are we getting these numbers from? Didn't the game just come out like a week from tuesday(9-10 days ago)? NPD isn't till next week so what is this "number" everyone is basing their comments off of and where is it coming from?

[KDR_11k]

The UK chart debut, as a game aimed at the core RS2 will likely have the spike and drop curve.

[SalesBot]

Media Create: 3/29 - 4/04

01. / 00.  [NDS] Etrian Odyssey III: Caller of the Starry Seas (Atlus Co.) - 88.000 / NEW
02. / 01. [PS3] Fist of the North Star: Warriors (Koei) - 72.000 / 457.000 (-81%)
03. / 00. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 57.000 / NEW
04. / 00. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 51.000 / NEW
05. / 04. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 42.000 / 3.617.000 (-18%)
06. / 05. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 35.000 / 3.067.000 (-20%)
07. / 02. [PS3] Yakuza 4: Heir to the Legend (Sega) - 34.000 / 501.000 (-59%)
08. / 03. [NDS] Pokemon Ranger: Tracks of Light (Pokemon Co.) - 33.000 / 360.000 (-36%)
09. / 00. [PSP] Dead or Alive: Paradise (Tecmo) - 32.000 / NEW
10. / 00. [PS2] Pro Baseball Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 21.000 / NEW

11. / 09. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
12. / 00. [NDS] Hudson x GReeeeN Live!? DeeeeS!? (Hudson)
13. / 06. [PS3] God of War III (SCE)
14. / 12. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP the Best Reprint) (Capcom)
15. / 00. [NDS] Nicola Kanshuu: Model Oshare Audition (Alchemist)
16. / 08. [PSP] Gundam: Assault Survive (Namco Bandai)
17. / 14. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
18. / 23. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
19. / 18. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
20. / 15. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix)
21. / 17. [PSP] God Eater (Namco Bandai)
22. / 11. [NDS] Pro Baseball Family Stadium DS 2010 (Namco Bandai)
23. / 22. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo)
24. / 21. [NDS] Crayon Shin-Chan: Obaka Daininden - Susume! Kasukabe Ninja Tai! (Namco Bandai)
25. / 20. [PSP] Holy Invasion of Privacy, Badman! 3D (SCE)
26. / 25. [PSP] Kenka Bancho 4: One Year War (Spike)
27. / 33. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.)
28. / 19. [PSP] Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce 2 (Koei)
29. / 28. [NDS] Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Reviere (Square Enix)
30. / 07. [360] Fist of the North Star: Warriors (Koei)

31. / 32. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Threat of the Invaders - Fire / Blizzard (Level 5)
32. / 00. [PS3] Winning Post World 2010 (Koei)
33. / 36. [PS3] God of War Collection (Capcom)
34. / 10. [PSP] Saki Portable (Alchemist)
35. / 34. [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (Capcom)
36. / 31. [PS3] Nobunaga's Ambition: Way of Heaven (Koei)
37. / 35. [NDS] Nettou! Powerful Koushien (Konami)
38. / 29. [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts)
39. / 40. [WII] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise 1 - The Treasure Beneath the Waves (Everyone's Recommendation Selection) (Namco Bandai)
40. / 44. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 2 (Namco Bandai)
41. / 49. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)
42. / 00. [NDS] Pet Shop Monogatari DS 2 (Taito Corporation)
43. / 50. [PS3] Demon's Souls (Playstation 3 the Best) (SCE)
44. / 00. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
45. / 45. [NDS] RPG Maker DS (Enterbrain)
46. / 00. [NDS] Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix)
47. / 47. [PS3] Yakuza 3 (PlayStation 3 the Best) (Sega)
48. / 43. [PSP] Hot Shots Tennis Portable (SCE)
49. / 00. [PSP] Machi-Ing Maker 3 x Tousouchuu (D3 Publisher)
50. / 38. [PSP] .hack//Link (Namco Bandai)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 1.048.568 / 18.296.273 (-28%)


NDS - 18
PSP - 12
PS3 - 11
WII - 7
360 - 1
PS2 - 1

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|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
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|  NDS  |     41.219  |     45.559  |    867.872  |  29.966.460  |
|  PSP  |     39.248  |     48.323  |    854.618  |  14.460.892  |
|  PS3  |     38.877  |     50.448  |    577.460  |   4.964.459  |
|  WII  |     30.938  |     36.849  |    691.223  |  10.132.567  |
|  360  |      2.676  |      3.002  |     49.964  |   1.252.758  |
|  PS2  |      1.815  |      1.785  |     30.651  |  21.636.805  |
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| DSiLL |     21.583  |     23.188  |    420.614  |     856.878  |
|  DSi  |     15.526  |     17.376  |    359.007  |   4.605.492  |
|  DSL  |      4.110  |      4.995  |     88.251  |  17.918.619  |
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|  PSP  |     37.445  |     46.449  |    828.997  |  14.363.419  |
| PSPgo |      1.803  |      1.874  |     25.621  |      97.473  |
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[Killer_Man_Jaro]

On the bright side, I did see two adverts for Red Steel 2 yesterday, and it showed what needed to be showed. Trouble is, I have yet to find it for a deal better than £39.99 (I could get it without MotionPlus for £29.99, but that would be pointless).

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Uh oh, Red Steak 2 didn't make the list.  It is teh faild.

[Chozo Ghost]

I've also seen some commercials for RS2, so if the game does fail then that's a really bad thing. In the past we had games fail, but we could always say the company didn't advertise enough, or that the game was too short/incomplete, or that it was just an on-rails piece of ****. None of that is the case this time. Now we have a real litmus test on whether mature hardcore games have a place on the Wii.

[Mop it up]

I saw a television commercial for MadWorld, so it was advertised too. Not sure of the extent of it, though.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I see the Red Steel commercial all the time... or atleast I did last week.

I found it funny when they were touting the accuracy of the sword to your movements and then it was slightly off and delayed. I think they could have edited that part to reflect the game better in the commercial even if it's kinda like that in the game.

[TJ Spyke]

Now that I have satellite again, I see a lot of game commercials (i've seen Red Steel commercials like 30 times in the last two weeks). Game companies don't really advertise on over the air networks that much.

NinGurl, are you talking about the UK chart or Japanese chart? The game has not been announced for Japan yet, so it wouldn't be on that chart.

[Chozo Ghost]

If this game is as good as I hear then word of mouth should also be a strong factor.

[KDR_11k]

Depends, do nerds like us talk to many people?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Now that I have satellite again, I see a lot of game commercials (i've seen Red Steel commercials like 30 times in the last two weeks). Game companies don't really advertise on over the air networks that much.

NinGurl, are you talking about the UK chart or Japanese chart? The game has not been announced for Japan yet, so it wouldn't be on that chart.

I'm trolling, not stupid.  Quit being the obsessive compulsive class nerd that has to correct everyone.

[TJ Spyke]

I won't say what I really want about you right now, I will merely state that I didn't know if you knew that the game wasn't out in Japan; I was just letting you know.