Topic: PlayStation Vita (PS Vita) - previously known as NGP

[BlackNMild2k1]

http://i.imgur.com/H6eje.png

is that the front camera just to the upper left of the 4 buttons on the right?

[Shadowxaf]

I don't think Nintendo would allow a back touch panel like that without a wrist strap

[broodwars]

I think there's one thing we've pretty much learned from this press conference, though: a couple of years from now,  the 3DS will probably be the last system on the market for low-cost software development.  Looking at what the NGP is capable of, I don't see how anyone's supposed to afford to buy it or develop on it.

[Shorty McNostril]

I'm waiting for them to show the pics of the mini nuclear reactor that powers it.  (That you have to buy separately)

[GoldenPhoenix]

You know battery life has to be bad when they don't list it in the press release, even Nintendo released the average battery life for 3DS.

Seriously, isn't it a bit overkill to have PS3 esque visuals on a system with such a tiny screen? The touch pad is pretty unique though, but I don't see how it will be that useful.

[SixthAngel]

It's like Sony didn't learn anything from the DS or the Wii.  Your console is getting killed by a cheaper system with less graphical capabilities.  Your last handheld lost despite having the graphical advantage.  Sony's answer: release an even more expensive and higher powered system.

How am I supposed to carry that thing around without the anlog sticks catching on everything?

Any news on price? 10,000,000

Are they going to throw every feature they can think of short of the kitchen sink to sell this?

Apparently everything but 3D.
3D in a handheld still seems futuristic to me.  Unless it causes brain tumors I don't understand why Sony doesn't use it.

[oohhboy]

It's going to be powered by nuclear pacemaker batteries extracted from dead people. It will be expensive, but it will have a soul.

They probably didn't use a 3D screen because they didn't have the tech on hand, that and it would require 2 dead people to power it if they didn't want to see double digit minutes worth of up time.

[BlackNMild2k1]

SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT TO UNVEIL "PLAYSTATION®SUITE," DELIVERING THE WORLD

OF PLAYSTATION® TO ANDROIDTM BASED PORTABLE DEVICES

Simultaneously Launching "PlayStation®Certified" License Program to Provide

PlayStation® Content and Development Support for AndroidTM Based Portable Devices


Tokyo, January 27, 2011 - Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today unveiled "PlayStation®Suite" (PS Suite), delivering the PlayStation® experience to AndroidTM based portable devices*1. Through this entirely new initiative, users will be able to enjoy PlayStation content on an open operating system for the first time in PlayStation history.

In the dramatically evolving and diversifying mobile market, the number of users who enjoy games casually on a variety of devices including mobile phones, smart-phones and tablet PCs, has been increasing significantly. By offering "PlayStation quality" content to this rapidly growing market, SCE will not only deliver the PlayStation experience to a wider base of users around the globe, but will also be able to offer game developers and publishers the potential to further expand their business opportunities to these devices.

In providing the PlayStation experience on Android based portable devices, SCE will commence a "PlayStation®Certified" license program for hardware manufacturers. Through this program, SCE will offer necessary support, including development support as well as logo licensing, to ensure the delivery of PlayStation quality experience across various devices.

On the software front, SCE plans to provide PS Suite content within this calendar year, starting with original PlayStation games*2 (PS one® classics) that will allow users to enjoy "PlayStation quality" gameplay on their Android based portable devices. SCE also plans to open PlayStation®Store where users will be able to download content in an easy to use environment, directly via the Android based portable devices. Moreover, SCE will provide a new game development environment in an effort to ensure new and compelling content is delivered on PS Suite, which will also offer opportunities for a wider base of developers and publishers to further expand their business on various portable devices.

Newly developed content for PS Suite can also be enjoyed on the next generation portable entertainment system (codename: NGP), which SCE announced today. Users who have never experienced PlayStation content can get a taste of the PlayStation experience through PS Suite and from there, they can enjoy the ultimate portable entertainment experience that is only possible on NGP.

SCE will vigorously enhance the entertainment world delivering the PlayStation experience to a wider base of users.

*1 Android TM 2.3 or beyond is required.

*2 PS one game console software title. We will announce the tiles when ready.

I just hope those analog sticks pop in or something. How are you supposed to put that thing in your pocket if the sticks stick out like that?


Does the media go in the top?

[leroypantweather]

mmmmm the handheld of my dreams

[BlackNMild2k1]

"does the media go in the top?"

looks like it.

Now I need to know, does it use Memstick, SD card or both?


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[Stogi]

Hmmm... I don't see "jailbroken" as a feature. I guess they'll add it later.

[KisakiProject]

Man I want the white one.  Day one if that Little Deviant games is there and I can get the not 3G in white.

[stevey]

The battery life seem to be 4 hours beating out the 3DS's pathetic 3 hours. "Nintendo's handheld is doom3D" comfirmed!

[KnowsNothing]

The price will be as high as the battery life is low.

[broodwars]

The price will be as high as the battery life is low.

So in other words, you think it will actually cost less than the 3DS?   :

[ShyGuy]

hahaha! Chris Kohler should like this, it's not a LAST GEN console, it has NEXT GEN right in the title!

I do like the Android thing...

[Ian Sane]

"Next Generation Portable" is just the codename, right?  This isn't he official name, is it?  If so that might give "Xbox 360" and "Wii" some serious competition for stupidest name ever.  Not that it would matter.  The Playstation 3 is the only current system with a not stupid name and it is the least successful.

I like how Sony has apparently learned absolutely nothing at all from the PSP.  This is the exact same thing as the PSP.  It's an overbloated console-on-a-stick that more or less has to have the same high price and same **** battery life as before.  Well they're not trying to force a crappy proprietary movie format on us so I guess they learned ONE thing.  Still they just missed the point.  If no one wanted a portable PS2 that doesn't play PS2 games why would they want a portable PS3 that doesn't play PS3 games?

Nintendo is following pretty much the same path that they did with the DS except that the DS was successful!  That's the key, Sony!  When you fail you have to learn from your mistakes and do things a little differently.  How would this win over anyone that has turned off by the PSP?

[Ian Sane]

Another thing about Sony's approach that I don't like is that I'm really not interested in playing the same games I have on my console on my portable.

For example one of the most highly acclaimed PSP titles is God of War: Chains of Olympus.  It is more or less the same type of game as the console God of War games.  But that is precisely why I'm not that interested in it.  Unless I'm a God of War nut isn't the main console God of War series good enough for me?  Do I really need to buy a seperate system just to play one additional title?

On the original Game Boy I was never interested in Castlevania or Donkey Kong Land or Operation C or anything like that because I had the real deal on the console.  I wasn't so starved for another entry in the series to bother with a portable.  But Pokemon was exclusive and Metroid II and Link's Awakening stood out more because they were treated as "true" entries in the series and new games in those series were scarce.  There was a clear incentive to buy this seperate system or miss out.  Scarcity means a lot.  Why buy the DK Land trilogy on the Game Boy when I can buy three superior DKC games on the SNES?  DKL seems like it only exists to provide some portable product on the GB.  But Metroid II I could assume would have existed as a console game if no handheld existed.

The GBA kept that going largely because 2D games on consoles are rare.  Metroid Fusion isn't just a portable version of Metroid Prime.  It's a new 2D Metroid game and there isn't anything like it on the Gamecube.  It wasn't just a portable game it was like a big deal PERIOD.  Dragon Quest IX isn't just a portable DQ game.  It's the REAL DEAL.  If you don't own a DS you are missing out on one of the MAIN Dragon Quest games!  That's essential.  If I own a PS3 and PS2 I'm not really missing out by not bothering with the portable God of War or Metal Gear games.  The console games are plentiful enough and I know they're the ones that get the real attention from the devs.

On the 3DS Kic Icarus is the most eye-catching because it seems like it would matter on any system.  Ports of Zelda and Star Fox and SSFIV don't.  That's what has really made Nintendo rise above with rest when it comes to handhelds.  They make a system that is essential to own regardless of whether or not it is a handheld.  It just has essential games on it.  No one else has really done that.

[BlackNMild2k1]

"Next Generation Portable" is just the codename, right?

yes, it is the code name at the moment. I'm pretty sure they will call it PSP2 in the end.

If no one wanted a portable PS2 that doesn't play PS2 games why would they want a portable PS3 that doesn't play PS3 games?

But it does play PS3 games. I specifically state how their goal is to start a game on a PS3 and then carry it on to the NGP without missing a beat.

Another thing about Sony's approach that I don't like is that I'm really not interested in playing the same games I have on my console on my portable.

But didn't you just say that Sony should.... ::looks back to previous quote::
So as far as you're concerned they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Contradict much?

How would this win over anyone that has turned off by the PSP?

PSP sold over 50million units WW (I think). Sony would LOVE LOVE LOVE to get anywhere near that again.

[bustin98]

Just as Nintendo didn't have to beat Sony and Microsoft with the Gamecube, Sony doesn't have to beat Nintendo with this NGP. They just have to sell enough to make some money. And its a way to promote the Playstation brand. You know that the name will end up having the Playstation word in it somewhere.

[TJ Spyke]

But it does play PS3 games. I specifically state how their goal is to start a game on a PS3 and then carry it on to the NGP without missing a beat.

I think Ian meant you can't take a PS3 game (i.e. Blu-ray Disc) and play it on the NGP. Sony sorta had this feature on the PSP where if you had both the PS2 and PSP versions of a game, you could transfer save files and continue it on the go.

[BlackNMild2k1]

The battery life seem to be 4 hours beating out the 3DS's pathetic 3 hours. "Nintendo's handheld is doom3D" comfirmed!

You know that has to be best case scenario and that they must be packing a 2800/3200mAh battery in that thing.

Nintendo needs to cut into that profit margin a little bit and step up their battery game. They can't let Sony publicly out do their battery life claims even if it may be a "Best Case Scenario" vs "All Functions Used Scenario".

But it does play PS3 games. I specifically state how their goal is to start a game on a PS3 and then carry it on to the NGP without missing a beat.

I think Ian meant you can't take a PS3 game (i.e. Blu-ray Disc) and play it on the NGP. Sony sorta had this feature on the PSP where if you had both the PS2 and PSP versions of a game, you could transfer save files and continue it on the go.

They kind made it sound like you could download the PS3 game onto the NGP and just continue playing. W(ho)TF would want to stick a BRD into their portable? That makes no sense.

A Sony rep actually said, and I quote

"We have learnt a great deal from our previous experiences and as such will be distributing games both at retail and via the PlayStation Network. We want to give consumers the choice as to how they access the great content available on NGP."

So D/L the PS3 version or D/L a NGP version of the PS3 game, whatever, in the end it's the exact same thing since you can continue playing the exact same game and pick up right where you left off.

[ShyGuy]

Wait, what if this thing is a full android platform? It could have all the capabilities and software of an android phone.

[Ian Sane]

I think Ian meant you can't take a PS3 game (i.e. Blu-ray Disc) and play it on the NGP. Sony sorta had this feature on the PSP where if you had both the PS2 and PSP versions of a game, you could transfer save files and continue it on the go.

That is exactly what I mean.  If I want a console-on-the-go what I really want is a common platform where the same games work on both.  I don't mean different versions I mean the same physical copy of the game works on both. 
It's like how the Sega Nomad is literally a portable Genesis.  Without that I think a handheld needs to diversify itself from consoles or else it's just a watered-down experience.

[Stogi]

Am I the only one that would love to play Uncharted on a plane?