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Originally posted by: Requiem
Does the type of content really change the fact that it was well written and well thought out?
And "same old arguments"? How old are these arguments again? 4 days? A week?
I'm not saying you have to agree with it, just appreciate it for what it is. No more, no less.
Well, I suppose the way it was written, I think you took what I was saying the wrong way. I should have thrown sarcasm tags around certain words.
As for the article itself: Well written, yes. Well thought out, I'd have to say no. It was basically a reprisal of all the base arguments against the name that I've already read on the forums. I didn't run across a single idea that hadn't already been thrown up as a "perfectly logical reason" to hate the name. And really that's why I don't like the article, because it is just hate. It's more or less venom spitting with no real objectivity. But you can't really expect objectivity when it was written by a gamer.
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Originally posted by: mantidor
this will never end 
So repeating myself...
Its clearly a console focused on "non-gamers" (horrible term but already engraved in our vocabulary) and multiplayer. Im not fond of multiplayer, not even offline multiplayer, and also I dont think Id like games my mom, dad or grandma will like. How many Metroids are for the DS? just one, and its a rape of the franchise, how many brain training games are already? like a million? why is so crazy then for me to fear the same will happen with the rev? these are concerns based on the only evidence we have that can gives us any clue about what to expect from the rev, the DS.
Besides, this lack of information on first party titles is killing me, Mario 128 will most than likely stray away from the usual Mario formula, which might be good or bad, but its expected from the franchise, but Metroid? There has been rumors about at a LOT of changes. Im all for a franchise to grow and evolve, but it happens that the focus of this particular console is non-gamers and multiplayer, what on earth can possibly guarantee me that Retro wont be forced down this path instead of evolving the franchise based on its original roots of the classic Metroid gameplay?
I want to clarify that Im not making any predictions at all, but its only normal for me to be concerned and have doubts, Nintendo isnt perfect.
And this is why I despise the "but Nintendo will expand the market attracting the nongamers!" argument, and was my main point in my previous post, why the hell should we care? thats not a valid reason for us to support their decisions, it doesnt guarantee we will get more games we like, not at all.
And also the "But the name will atract the non gamers!" argument, again, why the hell should we care? we (generalizing) are the ones who find it silly, my mom will find it interesting (she actually didnt but lets pretend), so? I still hate it, thats not a valid argument.
More or less, you're arguing semantics because... Actually I don't know why. It would be great if you could actually state what it is exactly that you're afraid of. All I see here is an issue completely blown out of proportion. Ooooo.... There's only one Metroid game on the DS and it's not a true Metroid title but there's, I think there's 3 now, Brain Training titles. Dooom On Nintendo!...
First off, everyone already knows what happened to Hunters. It was developed by NST instead of Retro. NST titles are okay but they just don't have that "knack". I didn't much like what they did to WaveRace on the GC either. Second point, as for the Brain Training titles they've each sold like a billion copies so far and cost Nintendo LITTERALLY nothing to make. Are you actually going to fault them for making more? The games are SELLING way better than Hunters.
And I don't seen Retro, NST, or even EAD being turned into "non-games" central. Most likely they're simply going to break off smaller groups to work on these types of titles every now and then. I could see IS or even HAL focusing on non-games but in the end they're most likely still going to make the franchise titles that they're well known for. Nintendo isn't completely shifting over to making these "non-games" at the expense of their existing software. These other titles are going to be complimentry to them.
Unless your big-budget story-driven titles don't sell while Brain Training and the like continue to roll in numbers in excess of millions. Then, I think, Nintendo would have a right to drop them. If people aren't buying them, they won't make them. Which can also be said about these "non-games". If people were't buying them, Nintendo wouldn't be making them. Well, people are buying them so Nintendo must be onto something, don't you agree?
As for you're right to hate the name, yo have every right. But the name isn't going to change the games. None of us know exactly what this new controller is going to do to their existing franchises. The next Mario could redefine gaming once again, or be a complete flop. I don't know. You don't know. I suppose I just trust Nintendo. The ideas that this controller fills me with leads me to believe that everything is going to be fine. No, scratch that. That everything is going to be GREAT! That we've only scratched the surface of what's really going on behind the scenes and when everything is finally revealed, we're all going to be blown away.
And why am I willing to be so trusting? Because some of these non-games interest me. Will I like all of them? Probably not, but I'm not going to simply dismiss them out of hand because I'm afraid of the implications they pose. Why would I want to sheild myself from what might be some of the greatest gaming I might ever run across just because I'm afraid of it? And in the end, these are all games. Even the Brain Training titles.
How on earth could a gamer actually be afraid of a game?
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