Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Stratos]

The only issue is that games with multiple versions/skus hog up the top of the top of the charts. Not that big of a deal.

Us fanatics can just add up the numbers later from the different versions. Or the publisher will brag that X brand has sold Y many copies of games between all the versions.

[Mop it up]

It would be like counting the sales of the individual skus for Xbox360 or PS3 separately because they have different colors, sizes or prices. It is the exact same system with different version.

Not really comparable because it's hardware not software and people don't buy multiple versions of the same system.

It doesn't matter how similar they are, they're separate releases so they should either be tracked separately or put into their own category of a game with multiple versions.

[Deguello]

Not really comparable because it's hardware not software and people don't buy multiple versions of the same system.

Yes they do.  I have two DSs. One Red Phatty-type and one Red and Black Lite type.  It isn't beyond the realm of possibility for people to have bought, say a collectors edition version of the 360 with HDMI as well as a launch console too.

[NWR_insanolord]

I've bought 4 DSs and am about to buy a fifth.

[Mop it up]

Not really comparable because it's hardware not software and people don't buy multiple versions of the same system.

Yes they do.  I have two DSs.

And that's why the sales of the DS, DS Lite, and DSi are tracked separately. But those are hardware revisions which is a bit different. Nobody is going to buy an XBox 360 Pro and Core system. Besides, what you say supports my claim that all game releases should be tracked separately; it doesn't matter how slight the differences are, some people will buy both.

[BlackNMild2k1]

My point is that even though things like that get tracked separately, to see what versions sells most, in the end they should all be counted together.

When we look back at how things have sold over the years, the releases are grouped by the unit
e.g. Pokemon Red/Blue, Pokemon Gold/Silver, Nintendogs(all 3), Xbox360(Arcade, Pro & Elite), NDS(phat & Lite)

When I look at a Pokemon release, I know it has multiple versons of the same game. Gold has 4 exclusive pokemon and an exclusive dojo, Silver has 4 exclusive pokemon & an exclusive dojo, but other than those swappable items, the game is exactly the same. I've never played any of the pokemon, but this is what I've been led to believe over the years. If that is true, and there are no differentiating game mecahnics between the two versions, then I don't see why they shouldn't just be tracked as Pokemon Gold/Silver in the grander scheme of things. The only reason you would need to see them tracked separately is if you worked at the manufacturer and needed to plan for restocking.

When we look back the only thing that matters is that we know that Pokemon G/S sold XXmillions, Xbox360 sold XXmillions, Nintendogs sold XX millions & DS sold XXXmillions.

But I'm not sure why we're even discussing this since Pokemon is tracked separately, Nintendogs is tracked separately and every other game with multiple versions is all tracked separately while they are selling.

[Mop it up]

But when two games are placed on a best-seller list as the same unit, it isn't accurate or fair. A single game didn't sell that amount, it was two games, and the number wouldn't be that high if it were just one game. That's the point I'm trying to make here, which means it doesn't matter what the content of a game is. If it's a separate release it should get counted separately.

[BlackNMild2k1]

delete. why don't these post get automatically approved once the restrictions are lifted?

[BlackNMild2k1]

But it is only one game. A single game with two versions. That is how it is mentioned on the Best Sellers list.
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

It tells you there are 2 versions of the same game being counted together.
There is no deception. Whether you want to accept it or not Pokemon Diamond & Pearl are two versions of the SAME GAME. Pokemon Gold & Silver are two version of the same game. Pokemon Red & Blue are two versions of the same game. Wii White & Wii Black are two versions of the same system. DS Phat & DSLite are two version of the same system. PS3 bloat & PS3 slim are 2 versions of the same system.

They may all be tracked separately but they are still being counted together.
So I'm not really sure what is unfair or not accurate.

[Mop it up]

They're put on the same list as games with only one version and are counted as being a better seller when really that's not true. They should either be on such lists as separate games or excluded all-together.

[KDR_11k]

This isn't about fairness, it's about sales.

[SalesBot]

Chart-Track has told GamesIndustry.biz that sales of the PlayStation 3 have rocketed 999 per cent over the past week.

Sony introduced the new, slimmer SKU last Tuesday, and although Chart-Track does not reveal actual sales numbers, Dorian Bloch, director of the firm called the growth "a huge increase".

"The uplift on week 36 on week 35 is plus 999 per cent," revealed Bloch. "We don't give out the hardware numbers, but never-the-less it's a very large increase."

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/playstation-3-sales-rocket-1000-percent-on-slim-release

ChartTrack has told MCV that it is not releasing specific sales numbers, but did say:

“The sales increase is very impressive, making the PS3 the top selling hardware in Week 36. The Xbox 360, Wii and DS Lite all sold around the same amount last week – PS3 Slim outsold each of them by a ratio of three-to-one.�

The sales-tracking firm added that it’s unsure how long the uplift will continue for.
“The longevity of this uplift very much depends on the time of year. The PS2 Slim was released in November, much closer to Christmas. We’ll have to wait and see how things work out for Sony this time.�

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35676/UK-PS3-sales-up-999

Also software sales went up:

The greatest benficiary is the 2007 title Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, which saw a massive 128 per cent rise in sales.

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/playstation3/ps3-software-sales-rocket-in-uk-following-slim-release-$1325246.htm

Also according to Famitsu PS3slim has sold 150k for the 1st week(4 days) on sale in Japan.

[Mop it up]

Sales of the PS3 saw a 999% increase? Now Nintendo really is doomed.

[SalesBot]

Chart Track - Week 36, 2009 - Individual Formats (Units)

UK:
01 (01) 360 Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
02 (02) PS3 Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
03 (03) WII Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
04 (04) WII Wii Fit (Nintendo)
05 (__) PSP Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Square Enix Europe)
06 (__) PS3 Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision Blizzard)
07 (07) WII Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
08 (05) WII Ashes Cricket 2009 (Codemasters)
09 (22) PS3 Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
10 (14) 360 Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision Blizzard)
11 (__) PS3 Il2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey (505 Games)
12 (__) 360 Il2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey (505 Games)
13 (09) PC The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
14 (__) PS3 Fight Night Round 4 (Electronic Arts)
15 (__) PC Champions Online (Atari)
16 (__) PS3 Tiger Woods Pga Tour 10 (Electronic Arts)
17 (19) 360 Fight Night Round 4 (Electronic Arts)
18 (29) PS3 Call Of Juarez: Bound In Blood (Ubisoft)
19 (13) WII Wii Play (Nintendo)
20 (23) 360 Tiger Woods Pga Tour 10 (Electronic Arts)
21 (21) NDS Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
22 (16) NDS Professor Layton And The Curious Village (Nintendo)
23 (06) 360 Wolfenstein (Activision Blizzard)
24 (__) PS3 Littlebigplanet (Sony Computer Ent.)
25 (24) 360 Fallout 3: Game Add-on Pack #2 (Bethesda Softworks)
26 (15) NDS Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
27 (__) PS3 Killzone 2 (Sony Computer Ent.)
28 (10) PS3 Ashes Cricket 2009 (Codemasters)
29 (08) PS3 Wolfenstein (Activision Blizzard)
30 (18) WII Ea Sports Active (Electronic Arts)
31 (20) NDS Pokemon Platinum (Nintendo)
32 (32) 360 Halo 3 (Microsoft)
33 (27) 360 Sega Superstars Tennis (Sega)
34 (17) NDS Guitar Hero: On Tour (Activision Blizzard)
35 (25) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
36 (__) 360 Grand Theft Auto Iv (Take 2)
37 (12) 360 Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
38 (11) 360 Ashes Cricket 2009 (Codemasters)
39 (26) WII Lego Batman: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)
40 (__) NDS 42 All-time Classics (Nintendo)

Ireland:
01 (01) Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
02 (03) Tiger Woods Pga Tour 10 (Electronic Arts)
03 (02) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
04 (10) Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision Blizzard)
05 (14) Fight Night Round 4 (Electronic Arts)
06 (05) Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
07 (04) Wolfenstein (Activision Blizzard)
08 (08) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
09 (09) Wii Fit (Nintendo)
10 (06) Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
11 (__) Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Square Enix Europe)
12 (__) Grand Theft Auto Iv (Take 2)
13 (12) Fifa 09 (Electronic Arts)
14 (__) Quantum Of Solace (Activision Blizzard)
15 (__) Call Of Juarez: Bound In Blood (Ubisoft)
16 (__) Il2 Sturmovik: Birds Of Prey (505 Games)
17 (__) Peppa Pig: The Game (Ubisoft)
18 (11) Harry Potter & The Half-blood Prince (Electronic Arts)
19 (13) Guitar Hero: On Tour (Activision Blizzard)
20 (15) Lego Batman: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)

Denmark:
01 (07) Singstar Summer Party (Nordisk Film)
02 (__) Pixeline 11: Stjernestøv (Krea Medie)
03 (02) Buzz! Junior: Ace Racers (Nordisk Film)
04 (03) Buzz! The Pop Quiz (Nordisk Film)
05 (09) Buzz! The Hollywood Quiz (Nordisk Film)
06 (06) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
07 (01) Batman: Arkham Asylum (Ubisoft)
08 (04) Singstar Boybands Vs Girlbands (Nordisk Film)
09 (15) Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard)
10 (14) Fifa 09 (Electronic Arts)
11 (12) The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
12 (__) G-force (K.e. Media)
13 (17) Counter-strike: Source (Electronic Arts)
14 (08) Buzz! Junior: Monster Rumble (Nordisk Film)
15 (05) Wii Fit (Nintendo)
16 (18) Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision Blizzard)
17 (__) Harry Potter & The Half-blood Prince (Electronic Arts)
18 (__) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
19 (__) Tiger Woods Pga Tour 10 (Electronic Arts)
20 (13) Wolfenstein (Activision Blizzard)

Netherlands:
01 (01) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
02 (__) [PS3] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
03 (__) [360] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
04 (04) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
05 (05) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
06 (07) [PC] The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
07 (09) [WII] Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Sega)
08 (__) [PS3]Grand Theft Auto 4 (Take 2)
09 (06) [PS3] Wolfenstein (Activision-Blizzard)
10 (02) [PC] Wolfenstein (Activision-Blizzard)

Germany:
01 (01) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
02 (05) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
03 (02) [PS3] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
04 (06) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
05 (03) [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Nintendo)
06 (__) [PSP] Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Square Enix Europe)
07 (04) [360] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
08 (08) [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
09 (__) [PSP] Dissidia: Final Fantasy Special Edition (Square Enix Europe)
10 (07) [NDS] Professor Layton And The Curious Village (Nintendo)

Australia:
01 (01) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
03 (__) [PS3] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
04 (__) [360] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
05 (06) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
06 (05) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
07 (03) [WII] Tiger Woods Pga Tour 10 (Electronic Arts)
08 (__) [NDS] More Brain Training (Nintendo)
09 (04) [WII] Grand Slam Tennis (Electronic Arts)
10 (07) [PS3] Ashes Cricket 2009 (Codemasters)

New Zealand:
01 (__) [PS3] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
02 (__) [360] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Eidos)
03 (02) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
04 (03) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
05 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
06 (04) [PC] The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
07 (__) [PS3] Grand Theft Auto IV (Rockstar Games)
08 (__) [PS3] Fight Night Round 4 (Electronic Arts)
09 (07) [PC] WOW: Wrath of Lich King (Activision Blizzard)
10 (__) [NDS] More Brain Training (Nintendo)

[mac<censored>]

“The sales increase is very impressive, making the PS3 the top selling hardware in Week 36. The Xbox 360, Wii and DS Lite all sold around the same amount last week – PS3 Slim outsold each of them by a ratio of three-to-one.�

Stupidest quote ever (Ok, there's an awful lot of competition)?

People essentially stopped buying ps3s altogether before the slim release, so this increase is as expected. 

Indeed, I'd say it's slightly pathetic that it only outsold its competitors 3:1, as those ps3 sales represented pent-up demand from people who have been waiting for a new model or lower price!  The real test will be how well it does over time given the new price.

[And I bought a slim!  So I'm not just a wii fanboy babbling... ]

[Tanatoes]

I agree that 3:1 is dire news for Sony.  If the numbers are anything like we've seen from Japan in the past weeks then the PS3 has had essentially zero sales in the past two weeks (below PS2 even) so outselling the DS 3:1 this week would mean that if you average the last three weeks then the PS3 is only on par with the other consoles.  It doesn't help them make up all the lost ground they've got to cover.

Maybe the LCD shutter glasses they're demonstrating for HD 3D gaming will help?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Maybe the LCD shutter glasses they're demonstrating for HD 3D gaming will help?

But you need a 120hz TV to even take advantage of the 3D effect. Which means anyone that bought a TV before early this year probably didn't even have the option to accidentally buy one. Once again Sony would be only catering to the very TOP of the market base. Not usually a winning strategy...... as they already know from $599 US DOLLARS.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

3D in the home isn't going to work until glasses and TVs are completely ditched.

[BranDonk Kong]

120hzTVs have been around since last year, maybe even before that. I don't think you need a 120hz TV for the non-glasses 3D effect, at least not with DLPs. Also, 120hz ruins everything it touches, aside from say Unreal Tournament.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I thought 120hz was required for 60hz per eye with the glasses. Which is the same movie theater 3D effect they were trying to bring to the PS3.

[Stratos]

I've yet to see one of those new 3-D movies. How good is the 3-D effect in them? Wouldn't head tracking be an easier way to create good 3-D effects? We're already talking about goggle/headband accessories so it's not that far fetched to throw that trick back into the equation.

[BlackNMild2k1]

The 3D movies are all right. Last one I went to I had to put my glasses on upside down though, since thats was the only way the effect worked.

[BranDonk Kong]

I tried the head tracking demo on the Wii, and it's just about the coolest thing I've ever seen.

[SalesBot]

Famitsu Sales: 08/31 - 09/06

01. [PS3] Kidou Senshi Gundam Senki (Bandai Namco Games) - 159,000 / NEW
02. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) - 88,000 / 923,000
03. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito (Square Enix) - 52,000 / 3,818,000
04. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 48,000 / 1,098,000
05. [NDS] Love Plus (Konami) - 48,000 / NEW
06. [NDS] Sloane to MacHale no Nazo no Monogatari 2 (Level 5) - 21,000 / NEW
07. [PS3] 428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de (Spike) - 17,000 / NEW
08. [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 15,000 / 881,000
09. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best) (Capcom) - 15,000 / 972,000
10. [NDS] Nihon Keizai Shinbunsha Kanshuu: Shiranai Mama dewa Son wo Suru - Mono ya Okane no Shikumi DS (Nintendo) - 12,000 / 29,000

11. [PSP] Samurai Dou 2 Portable (Spike) - 11,000 / NEW
12. [NDS] Puyo Puyo 7 (Sega) - 11,000 / 150,000
13. [PSP] Soul Calibur: Broken Destiny (Bandai Namco Games) - 8,800 / 40,000
14. [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco Games) - 7,000 / 295,000
15. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 6,500 / 3,519,000
16. [WII] Little King's Story (Ousama Monogatari) (Marvelous Entertainment) - 6,400 / NEW
17.
18. [PS2] Sweet Honey Coming (Kadokawa Shoten) - 5,400 / NEW
19. [NDS] Super Robot Gakuen (Bandai Namco Games) - 5,300 / 31,000
20. [PSP] Tales of VS. (Bandai Namco Games) - 4,900 / 213,000
21. [NDS] Nanashi no Game Me (Square Enix) - 4,900 / 15,000
22. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PlayStation 3 the Best) (Konami) - 4,800 / 27,000
23. [360] Dream C Club (D3 Publisher) - 4,400 / 50,000
24. [PS3] Uncharted: El Dorado no Hihou (PlayStation 3 the Best) (SCE) - 4,200 / NEW
25. [NDS] Irozuki Tincle no Koi no Balloon Trip (Nintendo) - 4,100 / 75,000
26. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 4,100 / 2,322,000
27. [PSP] Simple 2500 Series Portable!! Vol. 12: The Fuhyou 2 - Senyuu yo Saki ni Ike (D3 Publisher) - 3,800 / NEW
28. [NDS] Okaeri! Chibi-Robo! Happy Richie Oosouji (Nintendo) - 3,800 / 107,000
29. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2009: Club Championship (Konami) - 3,700 / 68,000
30. [NDS] Anpanman to Touch de Waku Waku Training (Bandai Namco Games) - 3,700 / NEW

xx. [PS3] LittleBigPlanet (PlayStation 3 the Best) (SCE) - 1,200 / NEW
xx. [PS3] Trusty Bell: Chopin no Yume Reprise (PlayStation 3 the Best) (Bandai Namco Games) - 840 / NEW
xx. [PS3] Ridge Racer 7 (PlayStation 3 the Best Reprint) (Bandai Namco Games) - 830 / NEW
xx. [PS3] Afrika (PlayStation 3 the Best) (SCE) - 780 / NEW
xx. [WII] The Munchables (Tabemon) (Bandai Namco Games) - 580 / NEW
xx. [PSP] Yamamura Misa Suspense: Kyoto Kurama Sansou Satsujin Jiken (Marvelous Entertainment) - 550 / NEW

PS3　151000
DSi　59000
DSL　5600
PSP　23000
Wii　18000
360　4600
PS2　3700

[SalesBot]

Media Create: 08/31 - 09/06

01./00. [PS3] Kidou Senshi Gundam Senki: Lost War Chronicles (Namco Bandai) - 178,000 / NEW
02./01. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Friend Collection) (Nintendo) - 87,000 / 977,000 (+9%)
03./02. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Defenders of the Starry Sky (Square Enix) - 50,000 / 3,844,000 (-30%)
04./00. [NDS] Love Plus (Konami) - 46,000 / NEW
05./03. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 43,000 / 1,128,000 (-7%)
06./05. [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 22,000 / 857,000 (-36%)
07./00. [NDS] Sloane and MacHale's Mysterious Story 2 (Level 5) - 19,000 / NEW
08./08. [NDS] You'll Incur Losses if You Remain Ignorant: How Money and Things Work DS (Nintendo) - 16,000 / 37,000 (-24%)
09./09. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST) (Capcom) - 15,000 / 939,000 (-15%)
10./00. [PS3] 428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de (Spike) - 15,000 / NEW

11./12. [NDS] Puyo Puyo 7 (SEGA)
12./00. [PSP] Way of the Samurai 2 Portable (Spike)
13./11. [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Namco Bandai)
14./06. [PSP] Soul Calibur: Broken Destiny (Namco Bandai)
15./00. [WII] Little King's Story (Marvelous)
16./16. [NDS] Penguin no Mondai X: Tenkuu no 7 Senshi (A Penguin's Troubles X: 7 Warriors of the Sky) (Konami)
17./04. [360] Dream C Club (D3 Publisher)
18./18. [NDS] Welcome Home! Chibi-Robo! Happy Rich Big Cleaning! (Nintendo)
19./00. [PS2] Sweet Honey Coming (Kadokawa Shoten)
20./17. [PSP] Tales of Versus (Namco Bandai)
21./07. [NDS] Super Robot Gakuen (Namco Bandai)
22./00. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot (BEST) (Konami)
23./14. [NDS] Nanashi no Game: Eye (The Game with no Name: Eye) (Square Enix)
24./24. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
25./27. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
26./00. [NDS] Anpanman to Touch de Waku Waku Training (Namco Bandai)
27./00. [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 (BEST) (SCEI)
28./40. [PS3] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 6 (Konami)
29./23. [NDS] Color Changing Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love (Nintendo)
30./00. [PSP] Simple 2500 Series Portable Vol. 12: The Fuhyou 2: Senyuu yo Sakini Ike (D3 Publisher)

NDS - 12
WII - 5
PS3 - 5
PSP - 5
PS2 - 2
360 - 1

PS3 slim - 151,783 (60% sell through)

PS3 151,783
DSi 60,419
PSP 22,184
Wii 21,557
DSL 8,309
X360 6,827
PS2 3,001