Topic: PODCAST: Radio Free Nintendo: Ocarina of Time

[ShyGuy]

I didn't play OOT until 2005, due to the fact that I was more into PC games back in 98. I had already played Wind Waker as my first 3D Zelda game and I can say that OOT still held up several years later and was in fact better than Wind Waker.

[NWR_insanolord]

Ocarina of Time is one of only three games out of the hundreds that I've played that I'd give a 10 out of 10 (alongside Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario Galaxy). I wish I had the blocks to copy it back to my Wii and finish it again.

[Dasmos]

I went to try an replay OoT again a couple of months ago, and I'm going to have to disagree with ShyGuy, I really couldn't get back into. Maybe it was because my N64 controller has been thrashed, but it I couldn't get back into the controls. So instead I went and played Wind Waker all the way through again.

[NWR_Lindy]

I forget exactly what I said about Mirror's Edge here, but I believe it was something to the effect that it's one of the games I lost interest in this holiday season.  I don't have anything against the game, but I've read that it's really short but quite good.  It's the kind of title I'll pick up when I can find it really cheap.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I forget exactly what I said about Mirror's Edge here, but I believe it was something to the effect that it's one of the games I lost interest in this holiday season.  I don't have anything against the game, but I've read that it's really short but quite good.  It's the kind of title I'll pick up when I can find it really cheap.

Screw these innovative games, I want more shoot lots of things in the first person perspective. Those are worth my consumer dollars!

[DAaaMan64]

I forget exactly what I said about Mirror's Edge here, but I believe it was something to the effect that it's one of the games I lost interest in this holiday season.  I don't have anything against the game, but I've read that it's really short but quite good.  It's the kind of title I'll pick up when I can find it really cheap.

Sorry Lindy, I was talking to the other Jonny since he mentioned it in the podcast.  But whatever, more input is good too

[KDR_11k]

I didn't play OOT until 2005, due to the fact that I was more into PC games back in 98. I had already played Wind Waker as my first 3D Zelda game and I can say that OOT still held up several years later and was in fact better than Wind Waker.

Same progression here but I didn't like OOT as much, the lack of camera controls was seriously clunky and the dungeon design was a lot more annoying in OOT (I only played past the forest temple but I heard there's still a really horrible temple ahead).

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

You'd BETTER play the rest if only to realize how dungeon design became a disappointing string of HAND-HOLDING one-puzzle-one-exit rooms starting with Wind Waker.  I want to figure out where I should start/go and be surprised where I end up, not have the dungeon magickally lead me to the boss room.

OOT and MM at least had more imaginative variety in dungeon architecture/floor plan, where rooms had more interesting interconnections/relationships beyond a simple door to walk thru.  I didn't like entering new dungeons in later games to find "ugh, not another tower/cylinder" or "ugh, it's just a straight line of rooms after another."  If the major exit in a room turns out to be the unlocked door that's visible as soon as I walk in, that is a missed opportunity to surprise me, and sums up Twilight Princess.

[DAaaMan64]

Pro is right. There was something about those mysteries that made dungeons more fun.

[ShyGuy]

Well, in the interest of full disclosure, I didn't play OOT on the N64 controller, I bought the Zelda gamecube  collection disc at a used game store so I played it with a cube controller. Perhaps that affected my enjoyment of the game?

And the dungeons had more variety in Ocarina than in Wind Waker. The Twilight Princess dungeons were somewhere inbetween.

Water dungeon sucks!

[NWR_Lindy]

Screw these innovative games, I want more shoot lots of things in the first person perspective. Those are worth my consumer dollars!

You're obviously referring to Resistance 2 and Gears 2, which may not be as "innovative" as Mirror's Edge, but by what I've read about ME are much more worthy of paying $60 for in terms of sheer content.  ME only has a super-short single-player campaign as far as I know, whereas Resistance 2 and Gears 2 have single-player campaign, co-op campaign, 8-player co-op, online multiplayer out the wazoo, Horde mode, etcetera, etcetera.  Whether you like R2 or G2 or not, you can't argue that they're impressive packages.

[DAaaMan64]

Lindy is right about this. Even if GoW is nothing but a rehash of the first. ME can be parted with after the first 4 missions.

[NWR_Neal]

I disagree. I loved playing through the main story of Mirror's Edge. The story's kind of dumb, but the gameplay is crazy fun albeit takes a little while to get used to.
There's a lot of mileage with it with the time trials and speed runs.

I'd much rather have more Mirror's Edge games than Resistance 2 and GoW 2

[DAaaMan64]

No I agree nron10.  More Mirror's Edge less GoW types, but ME was seriously lacking in things to do.  Ya there are speed runs but it shouldn't have been 60 bucks.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

*Tales of Awesome: Dawn of Fist*

I've put 75+ hours into a $40 game this month alone.

[KDR_11k]

No I agree nron10.  More Mirror's Edge less GoW types, but ME was seriously lacking in things to do.  Ya there are speed runs but it shouldn't have been 60 bucks.

The less a game is worth, the more likely it is to hit full price. Third party B-list efforts on the Wii? 60€. Super Mario Galaxy, best game on the system? 45€.

[Jonnyboy117]

Just listened to the show, and I want to commend James on his excellent editing under unsavory conditions.

[Sundoulos]

I loved the part where Jonny sounded like he was responding to the voices in his head where he said something, and then he said "Yeah".

When you learn to quiet your mind, you too will be able to hear the ghost of Jon Lindemann (tip: if it tells you to buy a PS3, it's probably Lindy, anything else...maybe consulting a psychiatrist would be in order).

I just got finished with the show last night.  I loved it, and I regret that some of the discussions were lost.  Hopefully, next time, you guys can use your proton paks on the ghost of Lindemann to capture his dialogue, so the rest of us who aren't so psychically attuned to the spiritual plane can hear him. 

Thanks to Greg for a great idea.  I love the episodes where you guys have reminisced about old gaming experiences, and if any game deserves a whole episode, OoT is it.  As the opportunities present themselves, I'd love to hear more "retrospective" epsiodes in this vein.  Maybe I'm so interested in talking about old games, because, I, like others, have been disappointed in Nintendo's Wii software offerings for 2/3 of 2008. 

I'm a few years older than most of the guys on the panel (probably significantly older than some of them).  I played my first Zelda game when I was in junior high; Ocarina came out when I was in college.  In a way, Ocarina of Time was poignant for me because, in a sense, I felt that I had sort of grown up with Link.  I'd agree with much of what was said about the console follow-ups to OoT.  I'll expand those thoughts in a letter to RFN when I get the time.

I have special memories of all the Zelda games, really.  My dad played the original LoZ alongside me during my childhood; though he's never been very good at video games in general, I was able to help guide him through to the end.  (We shared a love of anything in the fantasy genre, so playing Zelda together was a lot of fun.)  My grandmother also shares that interest;  she inherited one of the grandkid's SNESes, and she took an immediate liking to A Link To the Past.  I think she still plays it to this day, and she has claimed to be able to beat it in 3 hours.  I've never seen her do it, but I don't doubt her.  Unfortunately, neither of my previously-mentioned forebears were willing to make the transition to 3-D gaming; so they haven't touched any of the newer Zelda games in the last few years.   

On the bright side, I have a young son (though still too young to play games), and another child on the way;  I look forward to sharing future Zelda memories with them, hopefully.  I do hope we get a few more generations of Zelda before Nintendo decides to retire the series.

[Nick DiMola]

In this down time between episodes you guys can (should ) check out the Persona 3 Discussion (40 mins) I did along with my wife and one of our friends...

You can find it here.

[TofuFury]

I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this episode. I love talking and listening to people talk about old games or systems. It's great to hear episodes like this one and the n64 one where there's lots of reminiscing. I hope RFN has some more episodes like this in the future.

I never had a chance to play Zelda on any of my systems. I remember all the buzz about it on the internet, though. I used AOL at the time, and the N64 section of the ANT boards were really hyped up about the game. Unfortunately, I spent more time on the playstation section of it, so I never got to see how most people felt about the game.

Just recently I repurchased an N64 with the intent of playing through games I missed out on or didn't finish. I made sure that Ocarina of Time was the first game I bought for it. I haven't played through much of it yet, but I finished the first dungeon. It's exciting to finally play through it, since it's loved by so many people.

[AV]

i might play "master quest" over the christmas break because i haven't played that in years since before Wind Waker came out.

I only played that once too so it shouldn't be fresh.

[DAaaMan64]

If you go Start -> Programs -> accessories -> Entertainment, there is a sound recorder,

why not record from that WHILE doing your normal recording method. That way you could email each other the files if they are lost.  You may already be doing that.

[KDR_11k]

That thing can only record for one minute, then you have to hit stop and record again. Unless they fixed that since the last time I tried it...

[DAaaMan64]

Ah **** your right. But maybe they could double blanket that stuff.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

For basic recording I recommend HarddiskOgg.