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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Revolution Bundled with Mario

« on: December 22, 2005, 04:19:56 PM »

No I think Nintendo SHOULD pack Mario in at LAUNCH, but only for a limited time to help sell those first few million systems to gain 3rd party support and build momentum, then sell the game seperately to those who bought a core system latter on. Because that way every one gets a rev right of the bat AND aa great Mario game to play, that will add to teh Nostalgia of the system since teh last time a system had a Mario bundle was SNES.  

Including Mario as a packin will attract the retro gamers and the non gamers alike in addittion to the hardcore fans and gamers. I beleive this die hard because  the non gamers will want mario cuz its something they can pick up and play, as long as its simple enough like the original Mario Bros or Super Mario Bros, because non gamers recognize mario and will want to see what its like especialy once they learn all the features the rev has.

Next the Retro gamers, my label for the older gamers who mostly buy compliations or childhood favorites, will want it because they will remember way back when they got thoer first NES/SNES and want to take a trip down memory lane. Coupled with the Demo disk and the Virtual Console ideah this will go over big time not just for people in their 20s but older people also, I knwoa  LOT of grandparents who will still sit down and play thier old NES systems JUST CUZ of Mario bros and the many simple games for that system.

Then the hard core fans will get one also and have something to play along with whatever other titles they pick up.

The system shoudl also include a Demo disk and AT LEAST 1 free download, either built int or a card or whatever to chose a game. I would HIGHLY expect DUCK HUNT to be the retro game in addition to an updated version on either the Demo Disk or included as a seperate game with Clay Shooting and some other mini games that will 'emulate' Light gun games.

NOT inlcuding Mario as a pack n but making it a seperate purchase will make more money for Nintendo AT FIRST but if it doesnt sell systems and build userbase/hype all is lost. GC had HYPE and a pretty good launch, but it lost the momentum once sunshine came into the picture and realy turned a lot of people off. Not that it was a HORRIBLE game but not what most nintendo or Mario fans were looking for.  I think teh CORE sysetm, just teh machine and 1 controller no accessories, well maybe a shell OR Nunchuck, should be priced at 149.99 LAUNCH.

The Mario Bundle witha Demo disk and analong attachment and shell would price 179.99 and

then the super value pack would include the Mario game, Demo disk, 2 controllers and both attachments plus a card for a free download for a retro game.

Also every system should come with a Demo disk packed in and a DL presintalled, preferable Duck Hunt or maybe Super mario Bros, cuz most people will already have that game for GBA by now, or on thier old NES and arent likely to DL it, plus they will just DL Mario ALL Stars anyways and get upated version that way.

Anyways if Nintendo has been working on this "Mario 128" since GC launch and if its true REV dev kits are so similar to GC kits it wont take them too long to get a game ready for launch.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Rumour come True? Zelda: TP Forward Compatible?

« on: December 22, 2005, 03:56:35 PM »

well this combined with other recent news makes me wonder if Rev would be coming out in late psring or early summer instead of fall. Seriously if its so close to GC development, as Nintendo already confirms, and if early dev kits are out there, it wouldnt take long to get some kind of games ready in the next few months considering all the unfinished GC games lying around.

I am realy hoping and praying for REv to launch before PS3 and really hoping that may is teh date they chose, I mean why not. They could release game footage and stuff at thie rown special event and save E3 for something else like upcoming REv games and stuff and launch the system sooner than expected to blow peopel away, as long as it doesnt backfire like with Saturn.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Revolution taking 1st place in sales/marketshare? And what would that mean to us?

« on: December 21, 2005, 06:49:46 PM »

ok sorry fo rstartng an agument I kinda came in on this thread at the end and well anyways I was just rambling fo rno reason. As for my typing oh well I type to fast and well I dont care I guess I just never do proof read my posts maybe I should try sometimes. I agree though about payojg too much thats why I always wait for a game price to go down or get it used. Sometimes I cant wait for a game and have to get it day 1 and pay full price but tahst pretty rare.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:E3 Surprise Predictions

« on: December 20, 2005, 06:14:31 PM »

>>We all know Nintendo is going to pull out all the stops this E3 (or so help them if they don't.) Since we're not gonna get a lot of news, we might as well start the E3 speculation early:

1. The DS gets a redesign. - We all know this one is coming sooner or later. Since its been 1.5 yrs since DS launch already, and Reggie himself has hinted at a redesign already...this is probably gonna come as part of the one-two punch (the other part, obviously, is the Rev unvealing) >>

I sure as hell hope not I want my DS I have to be worth something ina a year unlike how my GBA was out dated by SP.


>>
2. Metroid Prime 3 for launch - They've been working on it for long enough, haven't they? This could part of the Rev's killer app line up.<<

Agreed.


>>3. Surprise new franchise? - It could be anything. This one is not so much a predicition as a given.<<

but we can speculate what it is right?


>>>4. Some kick-arse online multiplayer. - This is basically key for Rev launch. What exactly it is is anyone's guess. I would say Smash Bros., but it looks like they haven't really begun serious work on that until just recently. <<<

I think Smash bros will be close  to launch if not on launch day. They wont have much to do if it is started already.

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5. Footage of next Mario. - Somehow, I don't think this'll come at launch, though it should.
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Not only should it be Launch but damnit it should also be THE packin like the TWO generations where they were Number 1!

>>>6. DS 'connectivity'. - This won't be as extensive as GBA connectivity. Rather, it might allow big screen play of GBA games, or DS if it could manage it. Maybe it could be used as a controller for downloaded games. Maybe it'll even be possible to download the games off of the Rev and play them on the go; though conventional wisdom states that Nintendo is too cheap for that.<<

This a woud like to see if implemented better than the GBA-GC screw up.


>>7. The unvealing of Zoonami's games, whatever they are. - It's pretty ridiculous how long Martin Hollis and Co. has kept his games under wraps. I think something will definitely be revealed by them, whether its for the Rev or not.<<


? What is zoonami??? This confuses me.

>>>8. Third party exclusives - not more than two for launch frame. - I think that's fare, considering how they haven't gotten the 'real' kits yet. <<<

Han they can quickly port GC games with some beefed up graphics and gameplay for this or even Xbox games taht would have been on Cube but got cancelled, you knwo time to dig out all htose unfunished projetcs DOOM AND QUAKE!! AT LAUNCH! thats what I want.

>>9. Rev's secret feature(s)? - At first I thought it'll just be some stupid sparkling innovation; now I'm not so sure<<

This i have no comment on.

>>10. One pack-in VC game per console..<<

PLUS Demo disks and Mario I think would be best for everyone. They could still do a CORE console and sell Mario seperatley like in the past but he NEEDS to be avaialbel at launch and as pack in to have greastest impact.  

>11. Price pts.: $199 for decked out console (with DVD dongle, shell and nunchuck controller, pack-in VC game. Controller = $34.99. Games = $49.99. VC games = $5 -10.<

Well I think they could launch lower but thats up in the air, wasnt NES launched at around 100 dollars brand new? 150 would be great or even 180. 200 should be reserved for the ultimate pack in version I think.

Also there should be some news regarding the next Zelda, Star Fox, Kirby and Mario Party games.


>>Aight, that's enough for now. I know a lot were no brainers...but cut me some slack yo, I made it pretty quickly.<<<

TWe all know Nintendo is going to pull out all the stops this E3 (or so help them if they don't.) Since we're not gonna get a lot of news, we might as well start the E3 speculation early:

1. The DS gets a redesign. - We all know this one is coming sooner or later. Since its been 1.5 yrs since DS launch already, and Reggie himself has hinted at a redesign already...this is probably gonna come as part of the one-two punch (the other part, obviously, is the Rev unvealing)

2. Metroid Prime 3 for launch - They've been working on it for long enough, haven't they? This could part of the Rev's killer app line up.

3. Surprise new franchise? - It could be anything. This one is not so much a predicition as a given.

4. Some kick-arse online multiplayer. - This is basically key for Rev launch. What exactly it is is anyone's guess. I would say Smash Bros., but it looks like they haven't really begun serious work on that until just recently.

5. Footage of next Mario. - Somehow, I don't think this'll come at launch, though it should.

6. DS 'connectivity'. - This won't be as extensive as GBA connectivity. Rather, it might allow big screen play of GBA games, or DS if it could manage it. Maybe it could be used as a controller for downloaded games. Maybe it'll even be possible to download the games off of the Rev and play them on the go; though conventional wisdom states that Nintendo is too cheap for that.

7. The unvealing of Zoonami's games, whatever they are. - It's pretty ridiculous how long Martin Hollis and Co. has kept his games under wraps. I think something will definitely be revealed by them, whether its for the Rev or not.

8. Third party exclusives - not more than two for launch frame. - I think that's fare, considering how they haven't gotten the 'real' kits yet.

9. Rev's secret feature(s)? - At first I thought it'll just be some stupid sparkling innovation; now I'm not so sure.

10. One pack-in VC game per console..

11. Price pts.: $199 for decked out console (with DVD dongle, shell and nunchuck controller, pack-in VC game. Controller = $34.99. Games = $49.99. VC games = $5 -10.

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Thoughts? <<


Besides my above comments i definatley think they should reveal a list of 3rd party companies signed on and working on Rev projetcs as well as some word on Final Fantasy CC and weather or not it will be online and of you will use GC or REV controllers or if they are gonna require GBA-DS connectivity again.

Also I want to see TONS of screanshots and footage of every concievable game they have in development even if unfinished show something worth looking at. AND the biggest announcment will be DUCK HUNT is built in!

EDIT: and the return of ROB!

 

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Nintendo sucks at marketing and PR

« on: December 20, 2005, 05:53:26 PM »

At the Mc DOnalds in Twin Falls Idaho they had a Game Cube set up and had a HUGE sign advertising all the LATEST NINTENOD GAMES INSIDE, but it only had Disney Skateboarding and Sonic Mega Collection and tehre were never any kids playing it.

I also remember they had a BE IN A NINTENDO GAME promotion with DR Pepper for the GC but I didnt follow that to see what came of it. When I watch G4 I see crap loads of Nintendo ads, especialy durring Cinematech and Filter. MTV and Sci-Fi channel seam to be the only chanels beside the ones with kids programing that I ever see Nintendo ads on anymore.  

What they shoudl do with teh rev though is have some kind of promotion with maybe M& Ms and say give away 500 revs and the thousands/hundreds of other pizes could be games or DLs of old games. That would help with their presence issue I think. Or team with Pepsi for similar kind of thing, yo know like collect points towards a Special Edition Rev with either Pepsi or MT DEW logo on it and some free DLs or something. Damn it why dont Nintendo hire me for thier marketing department I have ALL the good ideas!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Revolutions Fat Library

« on: December 20, 2005, 05:45:44 PM »

The only thing is with Sega they are already using most of thier games on that gamefly service and have mentioned interest in Xbox Live arcade so its possible to get Sega games for rev.

Its funny for me I was the oppossite, I was die hard for Sega even though I liked NES i wasnt too into SNES untill way latter, then I realized they were both very good and similar. Dreamcast was actualy pretty close to GC in many aspects but had some short comings also.  But as for teh Sega games on the Rev and Nintendo getting a monapoly on retro, not possible I think, cuz

Sega is already lending out their games in so many different ways already plus many Die hard Sega fans still hate Nintendo and Sony and will support Microsoft as their flagship console, this I knwo from many disscussion over at sega.com forums and being a sega fan myself. I actualy counted my games today and I have more Sega made games than all my others combined and I have all but 2 of thier systems and thats only cuz MS was a NES basicaly and Saturn i JUST got rid of cuez it was boring me and was too hard to find games for.  What I would liek to see though is Sega make brand new games using the rev idea, like a new NiGhts into Dreams that would ROCK on teh rev if the revmote thingy is as good as they say it is, thats ONE game I know will have ME convinced that its worth having a rev for. Now that I think about it its time to send a nother email to good Old Sega and let them knwo that Idea just incase they are too busy with other things to think clearly.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Revolution taking 1st place in sales/marketshare? And what would that mean to us?

« on: December 20, 2005, 10:08:24 AM »

notice id dint say ALL games should be short I just said complaing about a game being short isnt fair when some games are ment to me short and other long, I did say that RPGs shoudl be long of crouse how would playa rpg thatw as too chort. But some games dont need to be too long because once your done you should be done.
Not every game should have hours of reply sometimes yu just want to sit down and playa fast game. It depends on the type of game though. I like RPGs to be long and emmersive as with adventure games, but I like some games to be just pick up and play and not have to worry about saving cuz I knwo I can sit down and finish it in one sitting if I chose to.

But I understand different peopel have different tatstes but to say a game is bad just cuz its too short is not a good point in my opinion, sometimes agame should be short. take TMNT for example, I beat that game first day I played it and it was still fun to reply with friends. It wasnt about unlocking extras or getting threw teh story it was just about beating peopel up and aving fun, there is a demand for those types of games and tehrea s demand for games like Zelda and Pokemon where you spend hours a day trying to get everything there is. Thats fine too I never said its not I just said that some gamers like quick games and therefore teh gaming industry needs to keep making games for those people instead of say making every game long and deep and force peopel to sit threw a long boring game.

Soul Cxaliber was a game I chose as an example to make tehs ame point to did, if you want teh extras they  are there but if you just want to fight to get to teh end you have that mode also, tahst fine for some gamers. But if  a game is justa straight fighting game that pits you against difficult foes whast worng with that I ask? My favorite fighting game of all time is MK 2 and theres no extras to unlcok its just 12 fighters in like 7 different backgrounds and tahst about it but Its fun to sit down and have tournaments with friends and to go back and redo all the finsih moves, but it takes fifteen minutes to beat the game if you want to get to teh end. Sometimes I like short games but liek them to have enough content to justify teh purchase, but me i dont mind waiting for a game to go down in price to buy it because very few games are ever worth 50.00 to me cuz I know that its hard to satisfy every body.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Revolution taking 1st place in sales/marketshare? And what would that mean to us?

« on: December 20, 2005, 06:56:57 AM »

not always true, some peopel liek to just sit down and play a game for a few minutes at a  time, sure its good to have long games but to force peopel to have to play a game for a long time isnt always good either. Some people like to play mario APrty on 10 rounds and have a quick fling, others liek to set it for 50 rounds and stay up all night. SOme people like a Fighting game to be short and easy to beat, others want them to be long and have astory and challenging. Games liek Mk are usualy hard and havea  good story, Soul Caliber is short and easy to beat. Smash Bros offers extras because the game is not good as a 1 player game, where as MK  and some other fighting   games are.


its the saem with sports games peopel like to sit down and playa  15 min match for fun others like to play for teh full length and simulate a real game. the only Genere that SHOULD take forever to play is RPGS and even sometimes you want a quick rpg to fly threw just for a good story or whatever.

Just cuz a game is a home console game doesnt mean it should take hours to play or have extreme difficlulty. I like some games to be long and otehres to be short. I like how I can sit down and BEAT sonic the hedgehog start to finish in about an hour or so. Cant do that with Zelda but who would want to? Also I recently retried Mario 64 on my N64 and quess what, its short enough to play in a single day too, once you figure out how to use the controls and get confortable. Yet thast hailded as oen of teh reatest games of all time. Some games are just better off short fast and fun esperiences while others need deptha nd challenge and such, but to say EVERY game should be long and hard and ahve a deep story is missing alot of the point, after all we are talking about GAMES not lifelong quests. Sorry for the rant but I hate when peopel say video games should be long and need substance cuz thats BS.  

I want teh rev to get some good games taht yo can pick up and playf or a few minutes and have fun, but I also want games that will have deptha nd story and such, there needs to be a balance and yu need to balance your time playingi games as well, noone needs to make playing a video game his or her life.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Revolutions Fat Library

« on: December 20, 2005, 06:38:07 AM »

yes popey was a luanch titles bt liek DK it was inferior to arcade version, but thats besides the piont if its there I will get it since its a hard cart to come by.

Well I dont knwo about original DK I know Dk 3 and JR were on NES but I thought origianl DK wasnt because it was on everything else. I could be wrong. Also I forgot a lot of thier names but Nintendo had several Arcade games that didnt make it to any home systems cuz NES couldnt handle them and Nintendo didnt liscense out their games to competors anymore. But I forgot what games they were.  The agme an watch are already on GBA and likely get ported to DS so its not an issue, and GB is seperate soe I expwect them to port GB games to undated GB systems not consoles, thats how they generaly do things. I think Sega has bene the only company to port thoer handheld games toa  console so far and I donnt knwo if its works for them or not.

I like the games availabel on Sonic Adventure 1 but havent unlocked any of my other Sega games that supposedly have them. I hope Sonic gets to the rev nowthat I am thinking about it. Of Course for that I would use teh shell I think. And didnt someone at NOA or was it Sega say that they are considering getting Genesis games for teh service? I knwo many Genesis and 32x games are on that video game website If orgot what its called buit you DL the program and pay monthly to get games, most of teh Good Genesis games are there so maybe they plan on doing somethign with them for Rev after all. Who knows except in order for that to work Nintendo woudl have to liscense teh Genesis emulartors from Sega and they might not want that. We had this same disccusion over at Sega boards on thier website but generaly speaking Sega fans hate Nintendo as much as Nintendo fans hate SOny. Me as a Sega fan I hate SOny for killing sega and trying to kill Nintendo.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:2-3 Times as powerful as GC true, sez IGN

« on: December 20, 2005, 06:19:13 AM »

well to answer Ice Cold Yes I did buy a lot of 1stparty games inhopes theywould be good, I bought Smash Bros, which I love, I bought sunshine and hated, I bought Luigis mansion I bought Star Fox Adventures, My absoulute favorite GC game so far but most people disgree. I ama an old school gamer, I like games that are remeniscant of my childhood, plain and simple I dont like what some peopel call fresha nd new its not fun to me. I would not call Doom 3 or MK 6 Stagnant, to me they build upon whats already great about a good franchise, I thik that if these games had come srtaight over to teh CUbe with out delays or cancelations Nintendo fans would be bashing them. Let me put it into perspective.

Back in SNES days Doom came out on SNES and Nintendo fans were throwing that in Sega fans faces cuz it DINDT come to Genesis, then N64 got a Doom remake and Nintendo fans were bragging about that, GC Doom gets canceled and Nintendo fans say Doom syucks, geta life, tahst my repsonse. Doom si a great friggin game but just cuz it didnt get put on Nintyendos system now its stangant and stale and sucks, tahst the kind of bitching i hate from Nitendo fans. OPbviously ltheres enouugh people out tehre that think these games you call stale are great otherwise they wouldnt oput sell the new stuff, cuz people buy what they LIKE.

I like MK because I was tehre when it came out and its a game I grew up on, just as much as Mario same as Doom, these gam,es are all childhood favorites for me there fore I will always get them because theyalways provide me with a remensciant experience that I enjoy, its the same with mario games and Zelda, except this gen I mario didnt feel like Mario and Zelda didnt feel like Zelda. YES I loved the cartoon graqphics of WW it was fun to actualy get to play a cartoon looking game especialy since I always dreamed games would get to this point, but the game was not fun to playa nd didnt feel like Zelda at all, Zelda games always have Hyrule and
Ganon, and Moblins and Octos, and Triforce, and things like that, yet Wind Waker had Pirates and crap, it would have been a far better game if it hadnt been Zelda at all, Zelda has a different feel to it.


Same with Sunshine heres what I hated about that, and MOST people I know who hated it agreee with me cuz they also grew up with Mario bros.

First once again it was a crappy 1 player game not good for a Mario Bros game (pisses me off Luigi cant even get into games anymore) it wouldnt have been hard at all to have turn based gameplay like old school mario. Second Mario Bros games, even Mario 64, always had fire flowers, Magic Mushrooms, Goombas, Koopas, Buzzy Beetles, Boos, Bricks you broke with your head, Gold Coins, things like that were absent from Sunshine, again it was a fun game but it didnt "feel" at all like Mario and there fore didnt deserve the titles and wasnt worethy pf my playing. Thats how I viewed it and all my friends also who chose Ps2 because it had MORE fun games to chose from, I was always content but never satsified with my Cube.

Next I will mention Wario World. I forgot about this game because i had higfh hopes it would be teh Mario game that sunshine wasnt, and again it was nothing like the Wario or Mario games I was familiar with so I didnt like it much, If teh main character was someone else it would have been different cuz I wouidl have figured it was justa nother crash banditoot and would have played it just for fun, whihc i did for a while but it wasnt that good to me.

Metroid Prime and Star Fox Adventures so far have been theonly 1st party games this Gen I thought were excelent enough to stand up to thier names and provide me with hours of fun. Star Fox sorta made up for teh Zelda game but not enough, TW better deliver or I might pass on rev altogether. Well no cuz I will buy it for the old games plain and simple.


As for the revmote It will creator barriers i dont have to play it to knwo that people will and already are scared to try it out taht alone truns peopel away and thats a barrier. Yes I am willing to gvie it a try and see if it can change my mind, but I know alot of people who arent and they are the people Nintendo needs to attract cuz they are like me, they dont stick to 1 console unless it provide them with enough content to keep them occupied.

I have hopes for Rev to get the next Quake and Doom gamnes cuz ofteh remopte and hope they will be cool enough to make up for not getting them this gen, same with Area 51 another game that could have easily worked on Cube but got canceled cuz of thier last place possition.

I think Nintendo did a lot to attract 3rd party dev tis gen, actualy teh only thinsg they could have done better were to make just 1 frigign online game to set the standard and tahst woudl have atrracted more devs, then those 3rd party games that got canceled due to no online wouldnt have had that excuse.

I am glad that Gun and True Criome new york still got ported as well asl Def Jam and the X-men Legends games, most of teh 3rd party games I care about get on teh cube and the few rare 1st and second party titles I like more than jsutify my purchase, but I felt left out not getting a dvd player and online suport, simpley cuz everyone else did, it may have not been a factor to you but it was to millions of other in teh begining, when iT MATTERED. The first two years of a consoles life are the most important and durring that time period many peopel were turned away by that one little flaw, it WAS a decideing factor cuz I know SEVERAL people who loved teh cube but didnt getone cuz Ps2 could play movies,a nd the FACT, taht dvd sales skyrocketed and prices wnet down reflected this, not just Sonly but eveyr movie indusrty leader admited this was the factor that drove DVD popularity, like it or not its a proven FACT. It wont fix the problem now cuz DVD players are so cheap no one cares if tehr ev plays tjem or not, but back when GC came out people did so tahst when it maters duh it dont matter now and tahst why providing the dvd player now isnt gonna solve any problems.

I dontmean to sound angry cuz I am not I love my GC and have more than 30 games for it, several are exclusives not 1st party exclusives but exclusive none the less and yes I got RE 4 and its  kept me busy for awhile too.

I was mostly idspointed by no Doom or Quake or ANY good 1st person shooters, Sure they arent my favorite genere but teh lack of them was really felt. Also Fighting games are one of my favorite generes and the disapointing line up one cube has left a sour taste in my mouth. What would it hurt to put Capcoms Street Fighter Anniversary Collection on cube, or how about Tekken or Viurtua Fighter? Tahst what got ot me, especialy when i saw PS2 get so many great Fighting games like Samurai Showdown and King of Fighters and GC gets crap I het disapinted. I was ok with MK 5 and would have got Mk 6 buy was turned off by the delay and the fact that they left out the online even though they said it would be there. Again if Nintendo woudl have just made 1 online game that sold decent others games wouldnt have ahd to suffer.

I dont care too much about online but I have friends all across the country and would have liked to play them online but only way I could have done that was geta ps2 and that wsnt gonna happen till this year.

So again if t wasnt for EA providing me with some 007 and Need For Speed and Segas SOnic games and Activisons action titles I would have given up on Cube back when the F&**ed FF:CC/ . I forgot to mention that I liked Zelda FOur swords and Pac Man vs but agian not having froiends with GBAs made that hard for me to get anything out of. Also since my friends allgot ps2 or xboxes tehre were few times we would get togetehr and play anytign on my cube if it wasnt for Mario Party and Smash BRos none of them woudl have ever played it, nor goten one of thier own eventualy like some did. Theres more games I did like than didnt like and thast why I am content but a lot of teh games I wanted that got cancelled pissed me off untill I decided why not just geta Ps2 and get the games I want. I dont want to do that next gen even though i usualy do anyways.

Back in 802 I had an Atari 2600 and maintain it was better than anything else untill NES, which I got and then when 16 bit started I switched to Gensis cuz for me it was better, then AFTER the N64 came out I finaly went back and got aSNES cuz they were cheap enough. I skiped Satrun and got a Ps1 and N64 same day to compaore them and see which one gave me most games to play, surprisingly enough Nintendo won for me that round cuz only ps1 gamesI ever played were Mk Trilogy, Tekken 3 and FF7. N64 brought me Doom, quake (both better than ps1 counterparts) Mario 64 A true mushroom kingdom Mario experience, Zelda OOT, Mario Party 1-3.

MK Trilogy, MK 4, Crusin USA, Killer INstinct Gold, and too many to name right now. Yes 64 was lacking in 3rd party support but because games were harder and took longer to make on it they generaly came out better cuz devs took more time to finish the games, GC people got sloppy. With Rev it shoule be teh other waya rond considering if its true it runs on similar to GC architacture cus DEves ownt have to learn it like they will PS3 and 360. Rememebr teh satrun was superior to Ps1 in graphcis and had better 1st party games and good 3rd party suport for a while and lost because devs had a ahard time making games work properly on its complicated structure, this could repeat itself with ps3. Saturn only had 2 processors and 2 Gapchics chips, PS3 has way more than that to deal with so it could take longer to get full potential and its likely rushed incomplete sloppy games will plague it just like Saturn.

As for 360 I expect it to do worse than 1st xbox but I wont get int o teh whys just yet. I actualy enjoy discussing this stuff with you guyts so if you have more to add or have a different piont of view pelase share. Also I um want to gve Ian some props for having to constantly fend off peoples attacks cuz I see alot of times he makes good sense, not always but sometimes he does in fact see what some of ya all dont. I never have bene a fanboy of any company except maybe Sega but they also have lost my trust. I just like to play video games for various reasons and alwasy liek a good variety I cant ever play the same thing for too long.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Your Revolution game ideas HERE!

« on: December 19, 2005, 07:18:07 PM »

Ok I will play along but bear with me cuz the rev mote isnt gonna be in every game i want.


First I want a brand new Super Mario Bros game where Mario and Luigi work together to run threw the Mushroom Kingdom in 3d but only 3d renders haev it 2d or side scrolling or maybe cell shaded whatever. Have all the main power ups return (Fire Flower Star Man 1Up Mushroom Magic Mushroom Gold Coins ETC) add a brand new power up for FLying (since every Mario games introduces a new way to fly. You would use the revmote to steer mario/Luigi and would use the Analog thingy to move when walking and A would jump B would be fire and Hodl b for run (old school controls) and then they would only have to use the motion stuff when flying or for the 3d special stages like Huanted Houses and Castles and such or boss fights each would have a different set up or something kinda like Mario World.


Second game is ice Climbers- This game could revmote cuz  the shell is impractical, as is nunchuk also. Basicaly just redo original game in updated 3d graphics plus have full detyailed environments and realistic weather effects and etc gameplay would be simple you would swing or smash with th wand to swing or shasm the hammer and you would use A for Jump and B and other buttons for kick and touse whatever special powers they may get.


Then Id like to see a Turrican game similar in mechanics to say Metroid Prime but with all the style and extreme difficulty Turrican is known for plus the revmote woudl be cool to use to swing your rope device and you would use teh nunchuk style controller scheme. The game woudl feature a story remensicant of the original Turrican and NOT Mega or Super cuz they strayed away form teh story way too much. Also Rev mote would be cool for swinging your fire rope weapon too.  This game is one I will buy teh day its relased and would reserve months in advance if I must. BTW does anybody know who exactly it is that makes the Turrican games? Also are there any for Ps2 that I may not know about? (or GC but highly doubt that)

Next I would like a game that is set ina  futuristic sci fi setting with robots and mutants tahst basicaly a multi player top down or 3rd person perspective which ever works better shootem up game where you get all kinds of cool weapons and stuff and go around and kill off mutans/robots with your partners. I dont caremuch about story as long as yu get to team up with friends offline or online and shott things but NOT 1st person I HATE 1st person games, not all but I really want a team basde scifi shooting game in a way like Forgotten Worlds in that you can fly and gain power ups ut also liek Contra in some asspects. (Which reminds me have there been any Contra games released recently? I cant ever keep track.


Last I want to see a Star Wars (Classic Trilogy) game where you play as Luke, Han, and Chewie (Maybe Lando if they need Multi player) and basicaly you use nunchuk controler and this one shoudl be eitehr 1st person split screan/online or have atop down or 3rd person perspective again which ever works best. Basicaly take the Super Star Wars games and make then 3d and multi player but have Rogue Squadron style space fighst AND get to fly teh faclon from a perspective within teh copckpit as well as virtual remake of its insides. Also you get to go threw all the major scnes and battles from the movies plus you get the stuff from Shadows of the Empire

just to fill in the gaps. You could also have tons more charcters playable for Multi player death macthes and such but thats different story. Of course yuo also get to use the revmote for Lightsaber battles as Luke fighting agains daddy Vader.


Last game I would give anythign to see on the rev is a 3d Kirby game remeniscant of Super Star or irbys Dream World but playable in 3d and you would use the revmote to move Kirby around. I um am getting tired and got work tomaorrow so ill have to finish latter

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Revolutions Fat Library

« on: December 19, 2005, 06:53:38 PM »

well I didnt mean to sound like us older nostalgia gamer swont care bout the rev stuff, cuz I boughta cube for their new stuff too, but I do know that teh virtual console will be a huge selling pont, which will bring in more people to attract more 3rd party devs to make more new games. I just hope that the new games are fun as the old ones.

I know that even for my GC I own more compilaton disks than anything else and mostly play Smash Bros for the trophies and the Adventure mode. I love that you can play threw the mushroom kindgom as practiacly any major Nintendo Character AND that those cool Ice Climber were inlcuded. Theres one things that still worries me about the virtual console, and correct me if Im wrong, but what about the games Nintendo made BEFORE the nes (as much of a shock as that may be to some of you they actualy used to make games for Atari!)

Im talking about Popeye (my personal favorite form that era), Donkety Kong (preferabley arcade version cuz 2600 and NES both sucked), Original Mario Bros (original arcade version also cuz updated GBA version wasnt as cool).

Also I am curious about thier post NES arcade games, like Killer Instinct 1 and 2, Crusin Usa series or what about Mike Tysons Punch out, will Rev get that or the regular Punch Out remake-rip off.

Also will there be remakes or sequels to other games besides the main five (Mario, Star Fox, Zelda, Metroid, F-Zero) Like will there ever be Kid Icarus, or new Ice Climbers? or a remake of Popeye? Or how about a Mario game set in the MushrooKIndgod with Fire Fire flowers, Star Men, Magic Mushrooms, Koop atRoop as and etc... THATS WHAT I WANT! Yes I am excited Nintendo will revive someold franchises with this service but what about making brand new games for the rev based on old ones? Also wheres Super mario PRGs real stunning 3d sequel been hiding? I mean with visuals to rival FF series (teh real FF not CC crap)? Thats another big game that could have done better if it hadnt been 'flattened and kiddified' into Paper mario. I so hope Mario RPG gets a revival on the rev.


While were still talking games who else want s to see a brand new Turrican game for teh Rev? Imagine using the controller (if you must) to toss your rope to the ceiling and swing across as you use the analog stick to steer. It could consieveabley be a 1st person style game like Metroid Prime but 3rd person would suit it better. Tell whoever makes those games to get on it right now! I nkow Factor 5 and Data East a Genesis Turrican but cant rememebr who did Super Turrican since I sold it a long time ago.



EDIT: I for got to add that Id be willing to pay as much as five dollars agame for NES games and maybe more for SNES games who else thinks that fair not $2 tahst way too low I think. 3.99 bottum line I think.
 

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:2-3 Times as powerful as GC true, sez IGN

« on: December 19, 2005, 06:22:59 PM »

Ok I have FINALLY gotten through the entire thread and have decided I would goa  head and throw my own comments your way peoples. Ok I want to start off by pointing out a few examples from the past regarding Power and such.

Way back when the SNES was around its major competitors (regardless of "generation" crap people spill) were the

Sega Genesis (EQUAL power less colors faster cpu better sprites slightly less ram and expansions that actualy got USED, equal size cartsCd Expansion, Equal large library)

Neo Geo (ALmost but not quit twice as powerfull, several times the ram, far more colors, FAR suprerior Sprites, many expansions, bigger carts, faster cpu, CD Expansion, slightly smaller library)

Turbo Graphic-16 (basicaly equal power, less ram, less colors, similar sprite capabilities, far smaller "cart" size CD Expansion, slower CPU, far smaller library"

3Do (AT LEAST double power, cd media equald FAR larger storage capacity, FMV capabilities built in, better 3d capabilities, far superior sprite capabilities, far more colors, far superior CD sound, far smaller library)

Atari Jaguar (SEVERAL times more power full, several times faster, far more colors, larger cart sizes, cd expanio, far more ram, FAR smaller game library, far superior 3d and 2d capabilities.)


Yet all these systems which are mostly far superior in power with Genesis and turbo graphix being only exceptions, SNES still oput solld ALL of these, and then some. Even on that same note the SNES was NOT 3 times as powerfull as NES, it was basicaly twice as fast, 3 times the sprite capabilities, tripple the ram, and tahst about it, well and cart siszes were larger and Steroe sound was built in. Look up the specs of these systems and then checkout some screen shots and game fotoage and you will see that the NES-SNES conversin was NOT much bigger that what is so far peroted as 2-3 times GC leap has been rumored to be.


Next I woudl liek to also point out that 3D0, Neo Geo AND Atari Jaguar ALL were FAR superior to SNES in EVERY convievable way with 1 exception software, also these systems were several times more expensive. Snes in itw prime was between 150 and 200 dollars demending on bundles and core unit combinations. Neo Geo was 1000 in its prime an games were well over 100 dollars each. 3D0 launched and stayed close to 700 dollars durring same time span, Atari Jaguar was launched around 350 and didnt go down for a while.

The SNES being INFERIOR to these systems still managed to out sell them all three COMBINED, due to thei software lineup and smaller price.


I had a Genesis first and SNES way latter, and I could never for teh life of me figure out how either systems out sold the neo geo! Seriously its that much better but the price was what killed it.

NExt I would like to make a few comments regarding the last gen verses next gen. First I agree mostly with Ian Sane but I have more to add so bear with me.

First I agree totaly that Nintendo killed the n64 way too early and had a way too buig gap between it and GC. SNES continued to get games three years into N64s life cycle and same with NES to SNES.

Second the GC was underhyped, Nintendo didnt do much at all to tell people hwo great it was or what it could do, instead they simpley thought thier brand name alone was sufficient.


Third there were too few decent games at launch and it took way too long afterwards to get some good games, Ps2 launched with triple the number of games as GC and Xbox double, its not so much weather tehyw ere good or not but it was the fact people could see there was enough variety to justify the purchase becaus ethey enw more games were on teh way, where as GC it was like you eithe rliked the few games at launch and were williong to stick it out or you waited to see if some good games woudl come out or not (ME I waited untill the 99 dollar prioced drop cuz it took THAT long to get enough games for me to consider it good enough to buy)

Then Nintendo focused too much on over hyping new games liek Pikin which to me were to wierd to gey int (yes I tried it but I hated the game)

They could have spent more time hyping games that people would have appealed to mroe pople, like Eternal Darkness or Metroid Prime (which is bad marketing on thoier part cuz I NEVER heard of ET untill LAST YEAR, anmd Metroid I was never that into but got Prime eventualy after Echos came out cuz I wanted it but need to play the first game first.)

Then there was teh fact that PS2 AND Xbox could also play DVDs yet GC couldnt THIS IS *THE* mistake that killed them plain and simple. In the first year of the current get DVD players were still rather expensive and not quit as popular as VHS. nearly EVERY PERSON I KNEW was either getting a ps2 or xbox simply cuz they could play dvds AND games. less than a year latter DVD players Drop dramaiticaly in price, and they practicaly erase vhs from peoples minds.

The online thing is debatable rememebr Nintendo worked with Sega to get TWO Phatasy Star Online games for GC and one was EXCLUSIVE at first. Nitendo had a chance to say make Mario Kart DD online and Star Fox Assault but they chose not to cuz it wouldnt be proffitable, BULLS**T, they wouldnt have to buld any infrastructure at all they just woudl have to host a coupple games thaty would have made up the cost in sales and subscription or they could have done waht sony did and just factor the onine cost into the game eitehr way it could have been profitable or at least WOULD have sold some more systems cuz then people wouldt have that excuse not to but it and YES judgeing by the number of people who got Xbox Live and how Xbox over took Nintendo youd bea  *&*&img idiot not to see the connection.

Last I will address 3rd party support, Nintendo did EVERYTHING they could to get stellar support but after companies LOST money porting games over they jumped ship, not to mention that early 2003 Nintendo STOPPED prodcution even only temproarily of GC it turned MANY developers away, cuz they saw this as Nintendo trhowing in teh towel so to speak, go back and re-read your magazine form this time period and you will see this was THE TIME when the 3rd parties companies left. Factor 5, Sega Sports (changed to 2k sports and sold to Take 2, Midway, Lucas Arts (aBIG loss regardless of what anyone says otherwise), Namco, even Kanomi all mentioned they were threw with GC, Nintendo had to dropp the price, BRIBE three of those companies to stay and still suffered losses. Namco agreed to stay because Nintendo agreed to let them use Link in thier Sould Calibur 2 game, which was at teh time percieved as a move that would attract more peopel to teh Cube version of the game. Even Atari had said they were gonna leave GC but Nintendo paid them to get Budakai and a hand full of other games since. M<idway ONLY ported MK 6 due to overwhelming fan demand only to be rewared with crappy sales (yeah Nintendo fans bitched hard enough to get that game and we didnt even buy it)
Midways Arcade Treasures 2 was ONLY ported because Midway knew that Nintendo fans had a strong attachment to most of those games simply becaus ein their hayday they were available on NEs or SNES and Nitendo fans would be nostalgic for them and cuz its a bargian game that was a quik port to get extra money.

If itw asnt for EA, THQ, Activision and SEGA maintianing support GC would have died in 2004. Nintendo BARLEY sold equal with Xbox (the year before) and it took a HUGE price cut and a special pack in to get that much support back.

Capcom was iffy to begin with and theres nothing Nintendo could have done to fix that Capom just plain screwd Nintendo over in the 64 days by only making what was it three games, all crappy ports to boot.  The Resident Evil ports and remakes dindt mean s*** to people who had a ps2 cuz all those games were already playable on it one way or another

Looking back I remeber ever time Nintendo would release one of those Holiday shopping guides I woudl start to get excited about somthing then realized that after no one else did it wasnt going to take off. I had high hopes for GB Player but yet Nintendo screwed that up. I had faith in E-reader simply cuiz Mario 3-e and again thew screwed that up, then Mario PArty E and those NES games could have some difference if Nintendo had chosen to make more games available and kept them as e-reader games instead of re-realsing them as GBA games and over pricing them and killing off e-reader.

The other mistakes they made were mostly image and marketing mistakes and so far they havent done much to improve those much. Dont get me wrong I have full faith in the Virtual Console to sell Revs and the free online and if they get some good FPS games and some good Online games theres a winning combination, me persoanly (Adn damn you if you flame me for my own opinions) I hate the new controller and so do most people I show it to, it wont fix any gameplay issue only create new barriers, deves taking longer to test thier control schemes is what will imrpiove game play and devs trying new things could work without teh remote control device. However that desont mean it wont bea  success but if not for the Shell I garuntee you I would pass the rev up all together simply cuz I have aDS and all the old systems.  For me GC was mosty dissapointemnts witha few great games mixed with a bunch of crap. To spell it out clearer (and I know MOST of you will diagree but I dont give a*^&*) I hated Pikmin, Paper Mario, Sunshine, Luigis Mansion, Pikmin 2, Animal Crossing, MK Double Dash ALL the mario sports games, every mario party game past 4, F-Zero, and even hated Wind Waker (GASP!)


I dint like and do play MK Deadly Allience, Mega Man Anniversary Collection, Sonic ADventure 1-2 and Heroes, DBZ Budokai, True Crime, Sould Calibur 2, most EA games yes I even loved rogue agent, and games like Star Wars Lego and teh TMNT games, ammong others. I play a lot more than just nintend 1st party games alwasy have been a bigger SEGA fan than Nintendo so I had hopes for Sega making more games for system too, yet I always chose Nintendo over Sony anyday for various reasons. Yet I eventualt caved in and now have the other 2 (thanksa fu%&ink lot Nintendo dumb @$$es! ) seriously I have lost alot of faith, but I haev been playing games since Atari 2600 so have seen giants come and go and yet they remian so they must be doing something right and dmanint I have faith that even if REV isnt as powerfull as Ps3 they can still KILL SONY! if yo manage to read this entire post props to you and pat yourself on the back, if yu got beef wit me or my OPINIONS bring it, if you try and refute FATCS I will reply but as of right now I and all of you only have 3 things to go on, the past,m the present and SPECULATION. Thats it. The past shows us GIANTS can fall yet Nintenod somehow stays around, the present shows us that Nintendo is regaining some midnshare and image plus alot of repsect, the future is up in the air but take everythig togetehr and you will see theres a lot fo reasons to believe Nintendo will come out on top next gen cuz they so far are fixing the MAJOR problems, yet tehres a few areas tehy need to work on, but Ill save that for another post cuz DAMN! just reading this monster hurts!










 

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Revolutions Fat Library

« on: December 16, 2005, 06:21:11 PM »

I just wanted to addrees a couple issues I notcied while reading this entire discussion.


First piont that was brought up that went over looked was by the perm I believe. He asked about Sony mage Soft games, I too was curious about this because they actualy have some great games, along these same lines though I was thinkng of Psygnosis which is now a part of Sony last time I heard, and they had some kick ass games also that would suck if not abailable for DL.

Also what about acclaim or even Takara/SNK? Takara, a toy comapny which publsihed most SNK neo goe fighters recently merged with Capcom i Believe or was it Namco? Anyways not getting Samurai Showdown or Art of Fighting will be a real bummer also. I dont knwo if its been confirmed if 3rd party games will be available or not but if so it will suck to not be misisng some of the greats. I seriously will be affected if Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter II Turbo arent available. Of course Ill get over it cuz I have MK CD for Sega CD and SF2 Turbo for Genesis but thats besides th point.

Also I wanted to mention a couple things about the Virtual COnsole as a sellig piint, I already know five people I have told about tehrev that are die hard sony fans boys, I mean DIE HARD (out of thr five three of thrse guys own 2 or mroe Ps2 and all of them owna  psp) All five of tehse guys have told me that if teh rev is cheap enough they will get the system just for teh old games. two guys even stated they woudl ONLY but it for thr old games as tehir ps3 will be where they put thier new incarnations of NBA Live and Madden football and etc.

Also my parents, my sister who swicthed from Nitendo to SOny cuz she hated everythig n64 related, also mention she would get one if its cheap enough cuz of the retro games and thast it for her she will stick with Sony cuz she hates Nintendos new stuff. Also my parents have been talking about how cool it will be to get Dr mario and Tetris and Duck Hunt again cuz those are games they play, plus with teh new games for the controller I would consider them sold.

Then theres teh gusy I wrok with who already got xbox 360s and the only thing still attracting them to tehr ev is the Virtual Console. Like it or not that is goin to be *THE* selling point for thousands of people.

I myself prefer old games over most new ones and my game collection is primarily made up of Copliation disks. I currently own and play Midways arcade treasures 1 and 2 (I plan to get three after christams if not for) I have Namco Museum and plan on gettng teh 50 anniversary edition, Sonic Mega Collection and Gems Collection, Super Smash Bros Melee (I play this game solely for nostalgia I collect trophies like mad!), Mega Man Anniversary collection, (plan on gettoin X collection after christmas) and Zelda Collectors edition. Not to mention that I am currently playing five NES Classic series GBA game son my ds and am activley seeking teh rest of the series, so for me I will spend more time and money on teh revs virtual console feature also, espacialy since I have serius doubt about the controller and have been so dissapointed with most n64 and GC games I will maintain what is my comfort zone and stick to what I like.  

So beleive me when I say that the big selling point for the rev is the nostalgia, and its most likely the reason why Nintendo decided to included it because this is far cheaper and more profitabel for them than constantly re-releasing old games as GBA carts or Collectors disks.

Like i said liek it or not there4 is now stopping this form becomeing teh major selling point for tehrev, I just hope that Nintendo can get back the magic they lost in recent years

*flame shield ON!*

So take this all as you will but I say wait and see what happens.

Also No one has adressed HOW the games will be paid for, credit card/debit?, virtual points accumulated durring online play? Pre paid cards like napster uses? I am curiuos about this because it will make adifference to me and many of my friends. I read a couple theories but has Nintendo said anything official yet?

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Race agianst Reggie on Mario kart DS Link inside

« on: December 16, 2005, 10:27:19 AM »

I only check the front page and the forums sorry if i double posted

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Nintendo Gaming / Race agianst Reggie on Mario kart DS Link inside

« on: December 16, 2005, 05:18:21 AM »

http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=nsKsnPpSCRBIgAzfmSAMMO-8GccQgfM7&page=

I didnt see this posted anywhere so thought I would post it just in case. I think this is a great way for Nintendo to iunteract with thier fans. Anyone else plan on hooking up Monday to see if they geta  chance to race him?

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:nintencats

« on: December 16, 2005, 04:38:09 AM »

Why all the cat haters? I love cats way better than stupid dogs, and my cats have alwasy been smart and loyal, you just have to work harder with them than dogs, dogs sell out too easy. But to reply to topic Myomoto said in Game Informer magazine they are not going to doa  cats game. But he said there might be other games. so I will go with that for now because its the best confirmation you can get from them.  

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TalkBack / RE:Splinter Cell Double Agent Announced for GameCube

« on: December 15, 2005, 03:13:30 PM »

Well to be honest I never even layed a Splinter Cerll game before but I watched his Icons on G4 and am now more curious about the game.

BTW Professional 666 I sent you an email and you never relied just wanted to ask if it was intentional or if my email got lost thanks.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Will it be called the Nintendo Revolution?

« on: December 15, 2005, 07:28:02 AM »

Well I personaly LOVE Revolution but Im jusat gonan say nintendo like I always do, so its no big deal for me. AS for the NEO, that wont work peopel will remember teh NEO GEO which was a failure console wise and tahst bad marketing. If they rename it I want ti to be called the Ultra Nintendo Entertainment System or UNES because I always thought Ultra 64 was WAY cooler than N64 and they really shoulud have went from NES, to SNES, UNES. IMO anyways. I like the Maybe just Nintendo Revolution or NRev would work too. But Nintendo needs to be not only in the name but also on the machine. Game Cube was a good name at first cuz it was tied into Game Boy which was a popular product, but it back fired in that it looks like atoy, not a gaming machine.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Nintendo sucks at marketing and PR

« on: December 15, 2005, 06:52:01 AM »

I used to think Nintendos advertising ceretainly isnt what it used to be, until I realized I dont watch the same shows/channels as I did  growing up, so I did an experiment,

When iw as a kid I only watched cartoons and kids shows, as a teen I watched Mtv and Scifi then when i got older I practiclay qwuit al together so to me it always seamed Nintendos ads were diminishing.

Then I chose to exsperiment and decided to wactha fwew hours of cartoons/kids programing with my 2 year old nephew and was SHOCKED at how many Nintendo ads I DID see. People always seam to forget they are an Entertainment company geared towards CHILDREN. I realized this a long time ago when I played Mario Sunshine, an unmistakably childish game, fun for longtime fans but definatley geared towards kids. Continueing my experiement i choses (rather reluctantly) to watch some MTV and since my sister is into Making the Band I watched it with her for a couple episodes and again to my shock I was shown a Nintendo ad EVERY commercial break! During a show that stars P-diddy putitng together teh next Spice girls act, certainly not Nintendos target market until I realiazed teh ads were for Animal Crossing WW, and some Mario Kart DS and other Wi Fi ads.

So It seams to me they most certainly are re4aching their target audience, however the older gamers, who some mistakingly refer to as hard core, like myself and others who watch more grown up tv shows and not kids stuff dont get as many ads, but I did notice Sci-fi channel and G4 still get plenty of GC ads and even some exclusives are shown regularly. I know this may bea shock to people but its no different now than back in teh 90s, the only difference I can point to of hand that I KNOW has changed is in the early Ninties many popular family sitcoms9 Roseanne, Home Improvement etc) not only had Nintendo ads they occasionaly had kids mention they were going to play Nintendo.  I now see they same stuff in sitcoms only its now Playstation that gets the ads and mention.

So what I see is Yes tehres a shift, but to be honest Nintendo KNOWS who thier target market is and frankly it the kids, hands down, tehy make up the game parket, teens and younger are the age groups playing video games, so it makes sense to advertise durring show they watch, and if they had a sports game they would advertise it durring a related sports event, and such but currently Nintendo has no major sports titles worth mentioning to sports fans (Mario sports doesnt count cuz only Mario fans care about those) peopel who want good sports games that emulate real sports generaly dontgo to Nintendo anymore, which sucks cuz they used to make some pretty good Sports games and had some good advertising durring football games and such, now Sony and Microsoft get those spots.

So inconclusion if your not seeing Nintendo ads on whatever station you watch, ask yourself if its something other Nintendo gamers would watch and then decide if there should be ads or not. I will say that I went to school and studied bussiness and marketing was one of the biggest subjects covered and looking at it form thier perspectibve of who the target audience is I see they still do the same level of advertising as before. Whats lacking is promotions and movie tie ins and such, like back when Pepsi and Shasta both ahd Super Mario 3 givewayas or how ever magazine on teh face of the earth was trying to giveaway a SNES when it was new and cool. Stuff like that is where they need to pick it up again, and with Revolution they sure as hell better make some changes cuz if they let people know it will play those old NES/SNES favorites like Mario BRos, DUCK HUNT, and Dr mario, etc, that should be enough to entice thousdands of gamers and non gamers who have given up on Nintendo, if they advertise it well. To me I honestly think thats the storngest selling point they have going for them with Rev and itrs what NEEDS to be pushed AT LAUNCH.  Anywyas sorry for long post just wanted to share everything I had. Ok im cool now.

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TalkBack / RE:Acclaim Games Publishing Rights Auction

« on: December 10, 2005, 08:24:22 PM »

Ok I got  my response from Nintendo today, they just basicaly said they were thankful for my pointing that to thier attention, and they would forward the info to the "appropriate" people. Then they sent a second email saying that they were looking further into the matter and to check thier news page for updates as they become available, not a confirmation but hopefull news anyways.  

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TalkBack / RE:Acclaim Games Publishing Rights Auction

« on: December 09, 2005, 04:16:38 AM »

I sent them an email they havent replied yet but they usulay do within a couple days. I have good relations with a couple reps so I usualy get reliable info. I will post what they say when they reply.

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TalkBack / RE:Acclaim Games Publishing Rights Auction

« on: December 08, 2005, 04:58:12 PM »

I got more info about these games, according to the lawyers each game has different rights and some games are limited to the original consoles they were first published on, for instance Acclaim had righst to Mortal Kombat and MK II BUT only had the rights to publish them for consoles from 1992 to 1995 after that Midway revoked thier liscense and gave it to Sculptured and then Williams sold the rights to Midway once it became a seperate entity.

So far I have been unable to get info on NBA Jam but what my friendes and I were discussion was getting MK and NBA Jam and doing a two pack or something but as far as we can tell it only relates to the code Acclaim had access to and not the full arcade code, which Midway still owns, so as far as Rev or Xbox Arcade goes it could still work, but to publish the games as say GBA or Game Cube ports only Midway can do that. At least on MK NBA Jam may have been sold out right I dont know but I will keep checking.

Anyways it looks like some of these games will be lost forever as theres many that have no bids, I sure wish Nintendo would start making bids on  some of these old classics because thatw ay not only would they go to Rev DL service but would be exclusive to it.  

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TalkBack / RE:Acclaim Games Publishing Rights Auction

« on: December 08, 2005, 04:49:41 AM »

I contacted the agency that is holding the auction, heres what i found out. Each game has different rights, and they are only auctioning the righst accliam had. It would only be worth buying the rights to these games either for Rev Download service, or [possibly even Xbox Live Arcade, but most games dont have sequel rights. Also there is a minimum bid of 5,000 dollars per game, so it could be costly to get more than a couple games.

They still havent told me when the deadline is but if theres time me and some friends are looking into buying the NBA Jam rights, so we can offer those to Nintendo for Rev at a really cheap price and make sure it gets exclusive. Well we would do other thinsg with the righst but it depends soley on how much time they give us to get the money and when the auction ends.  Also there is some question as to what exactly the righst accliam holds to the series but considering Midway no longer holds the copyriughts to NBA Jam and all the recent sequels have been Acclaim I think its safe to assume they have pretty extensive control over the property. This sort of explains why NBA Jam wasn't included on any of teh Midways Arcade Treasures titles which always had me confused.

I just hope that if we win the bid that its more than just the righst to the SNES/Genesis versions of those games. I would love to do an NBA Jam Arcade Edition or something like that, with updated features and interviews with teh creators. Also Besides the ability to offer these games for DL theres always compilation disks and those ever increasing TV Plug N Play games. Anyways Ill post more info as soon as I get it.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official DS Sales Thread

« on: December 06, 2005, 03:08:43 PM »

sales peopple will ALWAYS push the more expensive system that has more features as a better buy, because they are paid on commission.  Regarding teh DS, I have a die harsd sony fanboy freind who owns 3 ps2s (actualoy ll my freidns own 2 or three of tehdamn things), and has a psp, and I showed all my psp fanboy freidns my ds and all it took to convert them was wi fi conect and mario kart, they said that psp doesnt have any ghood games right now and teh online is to complicated for them to bother setting it up, where as ds is so simple they loved it.

I actualy convinced one to trade his psp in for a ds so thats a good sign. I also Noticed that at all the used game stores in town, and the stores that rent games also, only have psp umd movies, no games at all. I think thatpeople are starting to realize the psp is pretty worthless as a games machine. On a related note, I just read in Game Informer magazine that Sony is going to redesign the PSP with a built in hard drive or something of the sort, so it looks like they are sticking with PSP as a Tech Device rather than a games system, so that should seal its fate I think.

I still can't wait to see what christmas sales are like though, if DS stomps psp and developers start losing money on making psp games then we should start to see a major shift. By The Way does anybody have the sales data for original Game Boy verses Game Gear? I thought they were pretty close for a while but could be wrong.