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Darkheart · « **Reply #25 on:** September 05, 2007, 11:01:05 AM »

why does just one eye move @_____@ <__o o___>

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #26 on:** September 05, 2007, 11:10:38 AM »

Yeah, the eye thing is really creepy.

Zach · « **Reply #27 on:** September 05, 2007, 05:32:24 PM »

Hey thatguy, a little help with my avatar since I was didnt bring you back! I kinda felt like I should use my power tonight. Glad I was at least able to bring one innocent soul from the grave, keeps the numbers the same as they were. Too bad though, I still had a bunch more reserections. Oh and thanks Khush for trying to save me.

edit: See you in hell Jan Alexi, I guess we'll both be going there you mafia whore!

that Baby guy · « **Reply #28 on:** September 05, 2007, 05:36:38 PM »

I'll work something up for you sometime tomorrow. I'll be hitting the sack in about five or so minutes. I'll do the same for Stabby then, too. Don't worry, I'll be up early, It'll be here by noon EST, if not three hours earlier. It depends on buses and stuff.

Anyone else want a stylish Deadvatar?

Remember these are only until the end of the game, then it's Vudu time.

Zach · « **Reply #29 on:** September 05, 2007, 05:38:03 PM »

ooh, I got an idea, a zombie avator for tvman!

that Baby guy · « **Reply #30 on:** September 05, 2007, 05:40:35 PM »

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ooh, I got an idea, a zombie avator for tvman!

I'm not that skilled, but I can make Stan green or something. Edit: Ooo, or I could make him green, then write UN in front of all the deads. I think I might do that.

And...

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thatguy's doing a very poor job of keeping this thread updated.

HAHA, my evil plan worked. I'm not Captain Falcon at all! I am ... TINGLE!!

Tingle-Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!

Bah, it occurred to me that it would be better for players to look up the info themselves, because vote changes, times, and what is said is all important, too. No sense in doing all of that work, anyways.

And, BTW, have you noticed that we're mafia enemies? We're almost always on opposing sides here. This time you killed me (lucky for stabby, he vowed not to kill me until the end, so it worked out that his hit didn't count. Otherwise, I'd have to retaliate somehow.

Ok, bedtime.

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #31 on:** September 05, 2007, 11:33:01 PM »

Alright, what the hell happened? One second I'm secure and not suspected, then all of a sudden the bandwagon switches and I get run over. Hax?

And I swear, Gannondorf, you utter one more word and I'll blow that empty head of yours clear off your shoulders.

EDIT: Apparently, when I said "Take one vote from me" Stevey didn't know I meant to take a vote from one of the people voting for me. Why would I want to kill myself? Thanks for the feedback, Stevey.

Zach · « **Reply #32 on:** September 06, 2007, 03:36:03 AM »

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And I swear, Gannondorf, you utter one more word and I'll blow that empty head of yours clear off your shoulders.

Oh yeah like that means a whole lot! your side already killed me, and my side already killed you!

Edit: I wonder if the mafia knew I was important, or if they just got a lucky guess?

that Baby guy · « **Reply #33 on:** September 06, 2007, 03:48:02 AM »

Alright, first up is Bra(i)ns, featuring Stan:

Then we have Ganondead:

And we finish with a lifeless, limbless Samus:

Vudu already has one in another thread, and he doesn't deserve one for killing me, anyways. And yes, I know, Stabby was planning on killing me too. Can't you people tell when a killer is trying to appeal to the mafia by leaking them information about the "townie alliance?" I guess neither of you could. And gee, it would have helped you all out to have twice as many people dying a night. Of course, to be fair, I had figured out Bill and Stabby, but that's why I was trying to include them in my groups, and also why I went after Bill. Oh well. Too bad...

vudu · « **Reply #34 on:** September 06, 2007, 06:50:21 AM »

I'm not dead, I'm TINGLE!! Tingle-Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #35 on:** September 06, 2007, 08:32:48 AM »

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And I swear, Gannondorf, you utter one more word and I'll blow that empty head of yours clear off your shoulders.
Oh yeah like that means a whole lot! your side already killed me, and my side already killed you!

Grr... Good point. Not having limbs puts me in a precarious situation.

I'm not sure which avatar to use. I had made a dead avatar (Here) from my failed attempt at making a model for Jan, but ThatGuy's fits the theme much better...

Zach · « **Reply #36 on:** September 06, 2007, 11:05:22 AM »

cool, thanks thatguy

that Baby guy · « **Reply #37 on:** September 06, 2007, 11:13:51 AM »

No problem. Now if only TVman would use his...

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #38 on:** September 06, 2007, 11:44:52 AM »

Well, I'm using yours, if that's any consolation.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #39 on:** September 06, 2007, 12:38:35 PM »

It is. Funny story behind yours...When I copied the picture and put it in paint, it had a black background because yuo had made the picture transparent. So, I whited the background, and Jan's left leg (on our right) was missing. So, I just kind of went with it. Yeah. That's the story. Totally awesome, I know.

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #40 on:** September 08, 2007, 02:32:40 PM »

Surprising how well stuff like that works out, isn't it? I kinda like the limbless ending. Ironic, since right before that Jan had been enjoying running around and stuff. (And may I recommend you try out GIMP, the GNU Image Manipulation Program?)

Anyway, I've been doing some fiddling with Jan. Mostly I've done very little, mostly just trying to get a base for the texture and fixing some of those smoothing errors. Look at the lack of progress.. However, I noticed a .exe in the Source SDK I hadn't noticed before: qc_eyes.exe. Which handles all the eye coding. All I need to do is fix the rest of the face flexes and it might be up and running. Oh, and get a texture with actual details.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #41 on:** September 09, 2007, 06:19:37 PM »

A bump with new info in the original post.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #42 on:** September 09, 2007, 10:07:45 PM »

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I'm not dead, I'm TINGLE!! Tingle-Tingle, Kooloo-Limpah!

Right when you least expect it, EVIL

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #43 on:** September 10, 2007, 08:45:05 AM »

While my feelings are not as extreme as ThatGuy's, I do agree that this game could have used some improvements. I'll try to list them:

1) Stevey did not answer my PM's. He accepted them and counted my actions, but did not answer my questions. Hence why I used my power on myself. I thought it took a vote away from the votes AGAINST that person, but I didn't get any feedback or answers, such as what happens if the Mafia doc dies. Now, he was just recovering from getting sick, so that may be an excuse. He can't very well help it if he's ill. But it's much better when the host is available to answer questions and deal with situations that arise.

2) When a doctor or investigator dies, they reveal who they protected. This makes the Doctor for the Mafia a liability, not an asset. Really, why?

3) Too many townie roles. Really, this is more dangerous to the Mafia then the Vigilante, Investigator and Doctor combined. WIth not enough normal townies, it becomes almost impossible to hide. Though, what ThatGuy pointed out I should have done is claim to be some useless townie role, as we didn't know what roles were in play. But still, there weren't enough Townies. And some of the Townie roles are ridiculous. A Vigilante that has two extra chances? A Bomber that doesn't want to die?

vudu · « **Reply #44 on:** September 10, 2007, 09:04:23 AM »

My biggest complaint against the game is that it was completely stacked against the mafia. Some townie roles are ridiculously overpowered. Granted, Khush got completely lucky (no matter what he says) when he started blocking my action, but still ... he had the ability to block my role 3 times in a role (an unlimited number, until Stevey changed the rules)?!? That's nuts.

I understand that everyone wants to add new roles in order to mix the game up and make it there own, but the host needs to make sure that the teams are balanced.

stevey · « **Reply #45 on:** September 10, 2007, 12:33:02 PM »

To Khush

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I just saw your message about writing you. So, I will use this opportunity to state why I am not happy. Since the beginning of the game, you have encouraged people to vote for me. That's fine, we have this supposed tiff between one another. But then you posted the thing about my role and showed pictures of Kirby basically giving away my role.

well, I type up the town whore #3 role update before you where picked for it using Kirby (I fell out of my chair laughing when I pull out you name for town whore) and I was going to use it for day 1 but decided not to use it till later, and by the time I posted it the mafia already knew your role from bill so there was nothing to really give away.

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Fortunately, Vudu gave himself away and just happened to be the godfather. So, fine I was able to live by blocking him. But then, you soon changed the ability of my role. Again, I can understand why. If the mafia can't kill at night, then the mafia is screwed. So, fine, I dealt with that. Then when I vote out the godfather, I'm told he's not the godfather anymore. That role can change. Since when? There was never any mention of that. No one had any idea. If the godfather can change his role with another mafia player, than why was I limited to being only able to block a player 3 times in the game? If I'm blocking the godfather, he can change to someone else and kill me. I shouldn't have a limit than. So, now I have to deal with the fact that the godfather role can change at anytime and my role is limited. Fine......cut.........

I limited your role since it was the fairest way, if I just let the mafia switch godfather your dead, and I change it to being unlimited but can rape the same person twice in a row then instant death for you again. And I could do nothing since vudu had a point about your role being over powered that gave you 2 day to kill vudu and find the new godfather, still kind of bad for you but the mafia investigated you already and was out to get you since day3 so be happy you were able to live this much.

And about the mafia switch..... well, vudu said something came up and he couldn't be the godfather anymore so I had to switch them. I was going to post a fyi about to let the townie/you know but vudu insisted not to. It didn't really matter since you already use your 3 vudu blocks, actually if anything it let you have a chance at figuring out the new godfather & blocking his hit and gave you the advantage.

To Stabby

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1) Stevey did not answer my PM's. He accepted them and counted my actions, but did not answer my questions. Hence why I used my power on myself. I thought it took a vote away from the votes AGAINST that person, but I didn't get any feedback or answers, such as what happens if the Mafia doc dies. Now, he was just recovering from getting sick, so that may be an excuse. He can't very well help it if he's ill. But it's much better when the host is available to answer questions and deal with situations that arise.

2) When a doctor or investigator dies, they reveal who they protected. This makes the Doctor for the Mafia a liability, not an asset. Really, why?

3) Too many townie roles. Really, this is more dangerous to the Mafia then the Vigilante, Investigator and Doctor combined. WIth not enough normal townies, it becomes almost impossible to hide. Though, what ThatGuy pointed out I should have done is claim to be some useless townie role, as we didn't know what roles were in play. But still, there weren't enough Townies. And some of the Townie roles are ridiculous. A Vigilante that has two extra chances? A Bomber that doesn't want to die?

1)You were voted 6-2 and I just assumed you were trying to hide any possible info leak

2)Not really, the doctor could've have protect a townie every day to hint at them being the godfather.

3) well the game not over yet so don't call it quits yet.....

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #46 on:** September 10, 2007, 12:37:32 PM »

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1)You were voted 6-2 and I just assumed you were trying to hide any possible info leak

Oh, well that's understandable.

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2)Not really, the doctor could've have protect a townie every day to hint at them being the godfather.

True, but then it's not much of a doctor, and it's more of a distraction.

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3) well the game not over yet so don't call it quits yet.....

Never surrender!

Khushrenada · « **Reply #47 on:** September 10, 2007, 01:32:42 PM »

To stevey. As I said before and even said in my letter, I understand the early changes and I even understand now why you posted my role. But you still haven't addressed my biggest issue. But I know why. You can't post anythink with out spoiling what is happening in the game.

But there's another issue. And that is the lack of knowledge about people's roles. Stabby had questions about his role, Zach just found out he could bring himslef back, I thought the godfather role could switch on a whim by the players and so I adjusted my strategy and played according to that. No one knew it was a one time thing and with Vudu being killed, you could have said it was a one time thing. So, I'm playing under the assumption the mafia has some other power. People didn't understand how you were counting the actions (or the rule you used to determine them) thatguy and I both found out when it was too late and we were dead. Even the current godfather didn't know how you counted actions. I know you made this mafia game to reveal roles while the game was playing or so I assume, (I really don't know for sure) but there comes a point when the lack of information provided just becomes rediculous and hampers the game. What was even worse was the fact that we had like 3 new players and a couple others who had only played one game before. These people need help. They are still learning the game. Then with this lack of info, they lose interest in it.

Vudu's right. I was lucky with my blocks against him. I'll admit it. The sad thing is, I was looking for the mafia so that I could sell my power to them. I knew I would be a threat to the mafia and they would want to kill me so in exchange for my life, I would use my power to their benefit. If that had happened, the game might not have been so overpowered against the mafia. But then again, I look at this game funny. I don't always view it as black and white. I have this role so I must play with these people and shun these people. I'm always willing to take a chance and play things differently even if it seems illogical. Still, Vudu gave himself away regardless of what he says. The fact that he was the godfather was the only lucky thing about it.

Khushrenada · « **Reply #48 on:** September 10, 2007, 01:33:20 PM »

The good news.

I have a solution for our mafia woes. I'm hosting the next game. It's going to be a fast turn around. About a week and a half after the last day of this game, I want to be starting my day one. After this farce and even the fast last two, we need a good host to set up and run a good fair balanced game. We need to bring respectability back before people stop playing because the game's start leaving people with bad feelings.

I know I spoke with thatguy about hosting a game together but this is not that game. I know he probably still wants to do that but I think it best if we save that for the 20th edition of mafia. For the next game, mafia 19, I'm going to host that one by myself and I'm going to really skim this thing down to basics. Only roles that work. Nothing new. This one will be decided by the players not lucky roles. The theme has been chosen, the story ready to go. This will be a game designed to get people enthusaistic about mafia games again. A game where everyone has a chance and no one should feel safe. A game where you will have to be on your toes the whole time. There will even be a story this time for each day. Remember stories? All roles will be known. People will know and understand the rules. Yes, much like Casino Royale regained respect for the Bond franchise, Mafia 19 will gain regain respect for the franchise after Mafia 18.

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #49 on:** September 10, 2007, 01:36:38 PM »

If I had limbs I'd give you a standing ovation.

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Author Topic: Flash Frozen (Read 14299 times)