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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2925 on: January 07, 2017, 03:46:33 AM »
the idea seems doable, but very non Nintendo.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2926 on: January 07, 2017, 09:36:43 AM »
It does seem very non-Nintendo, but so does Mario on an iPhone. I don't think they would ever add GameStream (which is being replaced by Steam I believe), but possibly GeForce Now. It could even be part of the online service it they make you pay for it.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2927 on: January 07, 2017, 05:19:54 PM »
Yeah, it would be very impractical to offer it free. The other limitations of not every console gamer being a PC gamer also make it more feasible as would the portability aspect of needing the game to be on the Switch to work outside the home.

As for putting the Android app store on it, that to me gives people the option to pay Google for games instead of Nintendo, which doesn't seem smart, unless Nintendo and Google work out a deal where Nintendo gets some of that money.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2928 on: January 07, 2017, 05:29:51 PM »
There's no way they're putting the Android app store on there, and having it run Android would be a terrible decision anyway, with this gimped X1 especially.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2929 on: January 07, 2017, 05:46:22 PM »
Steam streaming would be great. I'd never buy a device just for that, but it'd be an amazing bonus for Switch.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2930 on: January 08, 2017, 11:33:55 AM »
Nikkei is reporting that Switch may be 25k Yen. $250 could be a reality.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2931 on: January 08, 2017, 12:53:43 PM »
$250 is good. Include a demo cart or a game bundle.

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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2932 on: January 08, 2017, 01:05:33 PM »
25,000 yen is about $215, so not only is $250 a possibility, $200 might even be one.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2933 on: January 08, 2017, 01:57:00 PM »
Nikkei is reporting that Switch may be 25k Yen. $250 could be a reality.

Assuming Nintendo doesn't do anything stupid like releasing a $300 bundle then this is a great price.  Yeah the Wii U had a $250 SKU as well but nobody cared when the $300 SKU had a pack in game and more memory making it the clear superior deal.  Hopefully the Switch will only be a single $250 SKU just for marketing reasons alone which will give it much better word of mouth, especially with Breath of the Wild being a much better killer app then NSMB U which was great, but the cheaper NSMB 2 on the 3DS killed any momentum and hype that game could have hoped to get.

Of course considering the exchange rate, they could do a $200 and $250 SKU tag as well.  $200 SKU for the system by itself while $250 will be bundled with Splatoon like some rumors have mentioned.  That would be a nice way to get the multiplayer audience going especially if Mario Kart also comes out around launch or shortly after.  Yeah the $200 SKU would still sell a lot less but at least the main $250 SKU which everyone will talk about will still be cheaper then the Wii U's main SKU and if Splatoon is the pack-in, will be much stronger then Nintendo Land which while fun, had pretty limited appeal since it tried to appeal to both Wii Sports casuals and traditional Nintendo fans and ended up being too hard for the Wii Sports crowd while not offering a deep enough experience for the traditional audience.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2934 on: January 08, 2017, 03:13:10 PM »
Just a note: That Nikkei report was actually an editorial, but we've had multiple other things pointing to $250 US.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2935 on: January 08, 2017, 03:16:54 PM »
I find it hard to believe.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2936 on: January 08, 2017, 03:37:15 PM »
As I've been saying all along, if they're smart then it'll be $250 or less.

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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2937 on: January 08, 2017, 03:46:28 PM »
$200 or GTFO. They'd still be making money off of the hardware at $200.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2938 on: January 08, 2017, 03:51:52 PM »
There's no way it's going to be 200. It's a level of aggressiveness I don't Nintendo is ready to go to just yet. Specially for early adopters.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2939 on: January 08, 2017, 03:55:27 PM »
I think it's going to be $250 with a game, and then depending on how things go they may drop it to $200 for the holidays.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2940 on: January 08, 2017, 04:23:31 PM »
I can see $250 with a game, or $200 for a basic unit. I believe they actually have the space to manuever on the price. Bbut I'm keeping my expectations low. I'm basically expecting a redux of a two SKU setup (ala Wii U) with a $250 base unit and a bundle/more-storage unit at $300.

I definitely agree that $200 would be all-guns blazing for Nintendo, and it would be really exciting to see, but I think it might be a better strategy for them to hold that in reserve for the future:

1. This is launch, and there's a group of people (like myself) who are more or less locked in to buy it unless it requires us to get two jobs to pay for it. Nintendo knows they can wrest a ton of money from my wallet already and probably won't leave that on the table.
2. This is launch, and if they get more people wanting to buy the Switch than they have supply they simply won't have enough consoles to sell to all those people ready to jump in at $200, no matter how much they want it.
3. They can always drop it to $200 later, like Holiday 2017, as a way of doing a big second wave of marketing push.
4. Nintendo has had lots of consoles launch at $250, both successes and failures. What will have a bigger effect on selling the console won't be a cheap price, but it's ability to sell a unique experience (hybrid) as well as a tempting software library (software sells games, not hardware).

I just don't think Nintendo needs to fire the $200 arrow just yet. If there are people willing to jump in only at $200 but not at $250, I don't see the big risk in Nintendo putting off those $200 consumers until Holiday 2017 while pocketing an extra $50 from each of those consumers who are just fine at $250.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2941 on: January 08, 2017, 05:07:11 PM »
If they bundled the Switch with a pre-existing port of Wii U game, I can see them getting away with 250.

Otherwise, it's too competitive a price point for Nintendo, in my opinion. At least, for a home console. I wish they'd get over themselves and stop with this "third pillar" or "not a 3DS replacement" mentality.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2942 on: January 08, 2017, 06:45:36 PM »
Im kind of hoping for a Nintendo Land style pack in game, rather than a Wii U port.

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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2943 on: January 08, 2017, 07:23:30 PM »
What if Pokemon Go or Miitomo is the pack in?

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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2944 on: January 08, 2017, 07:24:52 PM »
Unless it has a cellular data connection we haven't heard about Pokémon Go doesn't make any sense.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2945 on: January 08, 2017, 07:34:51 PM »
Quick math.We've worked it out before. What does $199 in 1998 equal in terms of inflation now?

according to the inflation calculator

http://www.westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi

What cost $199 in 1998 would cost $299.59 in 2016.

Keep in mind n64 and gcn were top of the line consoles. Wii and Wii U were priced according to inflation, but had outdated hardware.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2946 on: January 09, 2017, 02:56:03 PM »
If I were Nintendo I'd get on the phone with Kamiya and Platinum and talk about reviving Scalebound for Switch...
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2947 on: January 09, 2017, 04:15:00 PM »
If I were Nintendo I'd get on the phone with Kamiya and Platinum and talk about reviving Scalebound for Switch...

I read somewhere that MS owns the Scalebound IP though? And also that Kamiya was taking time off for mental health.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2948 on: January 09, 2017, 04:54:50 PM »
I'm just throwing crap at the wall. I doubt Kamiya wants to return to this game at all even if they did get IP back. But I think Nintendo is more willing to let Kamiya do his thing at his pace and be more supportive.
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Re: Switch Rumors and Speculation Thread (Mighty Wii U to Switch Port Edition)
« Reply #2949 on: January 09, 2017, 05:06:46 PM »
The industry platform holder's history of copying Nintendo's outside party collaborations and failing continues. The curse is real!

Somebody get Platinum working on Switch game.