Topic: Official Sales Thread

[BlackNMild2k1]

who likes pretty charts to go along with all these lovely numbers?
...All of you!!? great!! then I have a treat for everybody!!

http://chartget.blogspot.com/

Looks like Wii just crossed the 7million sold mark in Japan (in only 2 years!! how many did PS2 sell LTD?) *celebration!?*
Also looks like PS3 is only on track to maybe sell 5mill, but just barely (in the 5yr console lifetime cycle)
And did you know that PSP has outsold the DS YTD 2008?
thats crazy, even though DS still holds 69% market share, the PSP is really doing well (hardware wise, how are the games selling?)

[Mario]

PS2 sold like 20 million. Long way to go.

[BlackNMild2k1]

But the Wii is on track to beat that if it keeps selling like it is.

[Deguello]

Wii's doing pretty damn well in a country whose third parties seem to have made it their life's mission to strangle the console in a sea of terrible software and half-assed efforts.

Wii is keeping pace with the PS2, despite the PS2 already having had major third party support in spades after two years, Like Final Fantasy and MGS 2.  It's amazing that they can't see something that's so painfully obvious, even after they got on board the DS after the exact same thing happened.

[NWR_Lindy]

So... in order to get sales on Nintendo platforms... They should bring their best and brightest franchises and sure-fire hits and give full-assed efforts?  Awesome.  Glad we agree.

I agree.  Too bad it'll never happen.

[Ian Sane]

And did you know that PSP has outsold the DS YTD 2008?

I assume this would be the reason the DSi exists.  Shame Nintendo doesn't realize that the PSP outselling the DS in one year doesn't matter when the DS total sales figures are so high.  Having sold so many systems that there's virtually no one left that doesn't have one is a GOOD THING.

[KDR_11k]

Why's that a shame? Should they just say "sales dropped off, let's sit back and enjoy the lower profits"? They made the DSi to get more people to buy a DS. A market is never "saturated", you just hit the point where you run out of people willing to buy your product. The solution is to change the product to make more people willing to buy it.

[Ian Sane]

It's a shame because Nintendo risks splitting the DS userbase and likely pissing people off with a half-step when the next true new portable is probably going to appear pretty soon.  The purpose of making a videogame system is more to sell games than systems.  Having everyone owning a DS is a GREAT thing because the potential userbase for each game is huge, and Nintendo makes a cut from every DS game.  Nintendo is acting like this is a big problem they need to fix.  This is the GOAL.  They succeeded.  If they have such a bug up their butt about hardware sales then they should make the next Nintendo portable.

The big picture is GAMES and Nintendo is missing that.

But I'm totally dragging this thread off topic.  Sorry about that.  Let's talk about the Wii.

[Arbok]

Nintendo isn't like other companies, though, in that they actually see the green when they sell their hardware. It's because of this that the company shouldn't get complacent and just be happy with a large userbase... as they can still generate a ton of profits from retooling and selling additional system/handhelds.

[BeautifulShy]

Thank you Ian for not dragging this further.

Media Create 11/17 - 11/24

01. [WII]   Animal Crossing: City Folk    (Nintendo)  305,000 / NEW
02. [NDS] Chrono Trigger DS (Square Enix) 271,000 / NEW
03. [PSP] Gundam vs. Gundam (Namco Bandai) 267,000 / NEW
04. [360] The Last Remnant (Square Enix) 101,000 / NEW
05. [NDS] Saka DS: Touch and Go (SEGA) 72,000 / NEW
06. [NDS] Hoshi no Kirby: Ultra Super Deluxe (Nintendo) 55,000 / 418,000
07. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion Girls Mode (Nintendo) 25,000 / 209,000
08. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) 25,000 / 1,184,000
09. [NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon) 24,000 / 1,941,000
10. [PS3] Way of the Samurai 3 (Spike) 20,000 / 100,000

11. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
12. [NDS] Tongari Boushi to Mahou no 365 Nichi (Konami)
13. [PSP] Prinny (Japan's Software)
14. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III (SCE)
15. [PS2] Nightmare Princess??? (Yeti)
16. [360] Otomediusu (Konami)
17. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best) (Capcom)
18. [NDS] Fushigi no Dungeon Fuurai no Shiren DS 2: Sabaku no Majou (SEGA)
19. [NDS] DS Nishimura Kyoutarou Suspense 2 Shintantei Series:… (Tecmo)
20. [NDS] Ryuusei no Rockman 3: Black Ace (Capcom)
21. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
22. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo)
23. [PSP] Rachet & Clank: Maru Hi Ignition (SCE)
24. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto IV (Capcom)
25. [PS2] The Shield of AIGIS (Alchemist)
26. [PS3] Resistance 2 (SCE)
27. [PS2] Hitman Reborn: Forbidden… (Marvelous)
28. [WII] Family Ski World Ski & Snowboard (Namco Bandai)
29. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo)
30. [NDS] Personal Trainer: Walking (Nintendo)

DSi - 88,843
PSP - 61,226
Wii - 35,298
DSL - 18,580
PS3 - 17,436
X360 - 15,474
PS2 - 5,281

Animal Crossing debuts at 1. Chrono Trigger has a nice debut as well.Wii sales increased abit from past weeks.

who likes pretty charts to go along with all these lovely numbers?
...All of you!!? great!! then I have a treat for everybody!!

http://chartget.blogspot.com/

Looks like Wii just crossed the 7million sold mark in Japan (in only 2 years!! how many did PS2 sell LTD?) *celebration!?*
Also looks like PS3 is only on track to maybe sell 5mill, but just barely (in the 5yr console lifetime cycle)
And did you know that PSP has outsold the DS YTD 2008?
thats crazy, even though DS still holds 69% market share, the PSP is really doing well (hardware wise, how are the games selling?)

Hmmm I think that the Wii will have the same amount as the PS2 in Japan at the end of its lifecycle.How much exactly has the Wii sold in the past year in Japan?
I think that the Monster Hunter series has kept the PSP afloat games wise.I don't think much else made a big of a splash as those games.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well in Japan Wii hit the 7 million mark. Even though the 360 looks like its doing well basically did as good as it did last year so at 11/26.

So in Japan from LTD is(according to Media Create):
Wii: 7,014,754
PS3: 2,420,937
Xbox360: 755,935

So in 2 years the 360 didn't even hit a million.

[Chozo Ghost]

The big picture is GAMES and Nintendo is missing that.

Of the countless reasons you could criticize Nintendo, this one is pretty lame (at least as far as the DS is concerned, anyway). The DS has UNPRECEDENTEDLY MASSIVE software support from both Nintendo and 3rd parties. The same thing cannot be said about the PSP. People are indeed buying PSP hardware, but it seems the only games selling on it are Monster Hunter and Gundam. Okay, so the PSP has a handful of games worth owning, but the DS has dozens and dozens...

So, I just don't understand your criticism this time. I often disagree with your criticism, but this time it goes beyond disagreeing with it. I just can't understand why you'd think the DS is being neglected software wise...

[Chozo Ghost]

So in 2 years the 360 didn't even hit a million.

But hasn't the 360 actually been out for three years?

[NWR_Lindy]

Nintendo isn't missing any big picture about games, Ian.  Their games are doing amazing, and as a company that's all they really care about.  The only time they cared about more than their own games was during the GameCube years, when they were in third place and had no choice but to beg third parties to make games for their system.

[Luigi Dude]

But hasn't the 360 actually been out for three years?

Yep, the 360 was released in Japan back in November 2005 about the same time as the American launch.  Which goes to show just how pathetic Microsoft's presence in the Japanese market has been.

[Deguello]

So... if everybody who bought a 360 or a PS3 in Japan is a hardcore gamer...

That makes roughly 3.1 million hardcores.  Now, the Wii has just passed 7 million.    If the market for hardcores is only 3.1 million and they all have Wiis too... are we to consider and believe that Nintendo has found an amorphous new segment of the market that is waaayy~ bigger than than the old market, such that the old market would have literally collapsed under its own weight?  Did Nintendo save the videogame market in Japan, and people should grovel at their feet for keep Japan relevant as far as games are concerned?

Or is it easier to swallow that the Wii grabbed a majority share of regular games?  (I go with this one, the other sounds pretty ridiculous.)

[Flames_of_chaos]

[Flames_of_chaos]

Credit goes to Neogaf

Based on the latest Famitsu hardware numbers...
PSP comparisons: After 206 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 153.3 weeks (February 4, 2003), where DS was at 91.7 weeks (September 1, 2006), and where GBA was at 137.9 weeks (November 8, 2003).

X360 comparisons: After 154 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 15.0 weeks (December 23, 2001), where PS3 was at 19.0 weeks (March 18, 2007), and where Wii was at 4.0 weeks (December 24, 2006).

PS3 comparisons: After 106 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 23.6 weeks (August 10, 2000), where PSP was at 54.4 weeks (December 21, 2005), where GCN was at 107.7 weeks (October 3, 2003), and where Wii was at 25.6 weeks (May 24, 2007).

Wii comparisons: After 103 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 90.9 weeks (December 14, 2002), where DS was at 71.2 weeks (April 10, 2006), where PS2 was at 100.5 weeks (January 31, 2002), and where PSP was at 156.2 weeks (December 3, 2007).

DSi comparisons: After 3 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 4.7 weeks (March 14, 2003), where GBM was at 11.8 weeks (December 2, 2005), and where DSL was at 3.7 weeks (March 24, 2006).

Based on the latest Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 63.7 / 36.3 bring total shares to 69.0 / 31.0. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 217.4 weeks (January 24, 2013).

X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 47.0 / 53.0 bring total shares to 24.0 / 76.0. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 107.8 weeks (December 18, 2010).

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 33.1 / 66.9 bring total shares to 25.8 / 74.2. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 262.5 weeks (December 5, 2013).

[vudu]

Takeaways:  Wii is the next PS2.  PS3 is the next GCN.  360 is the next Xbox.

[NWR_Lindy]

Yeah, pretty much.  Although the Wii game library leaves much to be desired when compared to that of the PS2.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

The shrinking "audience" that "appreciated" the PS2 library is generating sales that leave much to be desired.

[DAaaMan64]

Non-nude audience?

7.0, leaves much to be desired.

[NWR_Lindy]

Some people that had PS2s went to PS3/360.  Some bought a Wii.  I think things pretty much worked out for consumers...everybody got the kinds of games that they wanted.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Yeah, pretty much.  Although the Wii game library leaves much to be desired when compared to that of the PS2.

Not really for a console that's two years old Wii has a pretty good library, and I don't know if you remember but some of the best PS2 games came out late in the PS2 life. So I wouldn't discount Wii just yet since 3rd parties and 1st party will be strong hell Atari announced 3 games for Wii today ready 2 rumble, QJ a music game from Q? Entertainment and Sam and Max Season 2 boxset.

[DAaaMan64]

Project Wiiojave, Lindy edition.