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RE: The game has been leak! Prepare for spoilers!
« Reply #225 on: January 29, 2008, 11:57:20 AM »
But Brawl doesn't have the original Mushroom Kingdom Sky stage with sliding platform, so all these new additions fail.
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« Reply #226 on: January 29, 2008, 12:19:37 PM »
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Sure is alot of name calling. From what I understand a source stated that Ganondorf is in fact a clone, and I see no reason to doubt it since most things are pointing to that whether it be be his stance being unchanged or the lack of a sword. Ganondorf if he does turn out to be a clone would be very frustrating because they've had two chances at it and two more Zelda games to determine a unique move list. Also once again I don't believe anyone here said Brawl sucks now, that is exaggerating quite a bit, being critical of aspects of the game does not mean you hate the game as a whole.


The only source on Ganondorf so far is one image of him without his sword.  That doesn't mean anything about him being a clone when there's another image of him turning into Ganon for his Final Smash.



Does anyone stop to thing that maybe Ganondorfs sword is just used for one of his special attacks?  Since so many people have been complaining about too many sword users, maybe Sakurai decided to have Ganondorf's physical attacks not use a sword as to not over do sword users.  For all we know maybe Ganondorf's A normal attacks could still be similar to Captain Falcon but his B special attacks could be unique ones that involve magic and his sword.



Once again until theres's actual proof that Ganondorf is a clone, then anyone complaining about it is jumping the gun.


Well if Ganondorf turns out to have a unique moveset I will have no real big complaints about the game. Like I said before I do not think Brawl is going to suck, though I do think one aspect of it is disappointing but even at that I'm still super excited for the game. BTW could the reason for Wolf not being revealed is because the game has a time player counter and unlocks him after you put in so many hours?

Speaking of Ganondorf, it would be sooo cool if one of Ganondorf's alt costumes was his Wind Waker form! I know they've shown the trophy but I can hope right?  
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« Reply #227 on: January 29, 2008, 12:20:47 PM »
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But Brawl doesn't have the original Mushroom Kingdom Sky stage with sliding platform, so all these new additions fail.


That was an awesome stage.

Maybe there will be a way to create it in the stage builder.  
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« Reply #228 on: January 29, 2008, 12:28:45 PM »
I want to hear more about the stage creator. The leakers are being way too slow!
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« Reply #229 on: January 29, 2008, 12:51:53 PM »
I want the leakers to play in the damn F-Zero stage.  Seriously, they left the cursor on the F-Zero stage more then any other stage only to pick a different one.

Also I can't wait to see Sonic's stage in action along with Wind Waker Links stage.  Wind Waker Links stage actually looks exactly like I always imagined it.  Now I just need to see it in motion with music, which I'm sure will be the Wind Waker overworld theme.  Hopefully they'll get the Wind Waker ending theme in the game along with Dragon Roast Island theme as well.
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« Reply #230 on: January 29, 2008, 01:01:55 PM »

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« Reply #231 on: January 29, 2008, 01:04:13 PM »
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And then, of course, there's Mewtwo, who had no reason for removal, as far as I can tell.


Tell me about it... what a kick to the groin for me that was.

Yeah he wasn't popular in Melee, but it wasn't because of the character... it was because his moveset was underwhelming. So I was hoping he might be in and better balanced, but oh well.
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« Reply #232 on: January 29, 2008, 01:07:43 PM »
What is with the WW Ganondorf shot with 2 swords? 2 Ganons or the good Move set Ganon got turn into a AT....  
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« Reply #233 on: January 29, 2008, 01:19:31 PM »
That would be a trophy...
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« Reply #234 on: January 29, 2008, 01:25:54 PM »
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Well there is a roster that has been taking hold and looks like it may very well be the final one. Personally I think it is extremely disappointing but here it is.

This is supposedly based off a collection of "legit" sources

Yes it is a mockup but many are coming to the conclusion that it is.


So is this list pretty much confirmed? The screens (primarily image up254065) I see on gonintendo pretty much confirm it (order is pretty much dead on too), minus the inclusion of Wolf, which I'm guessing will be forthcoming. Let me say this, if this is the final roster I definitely feel let down. I really expected a more varied roster with the inclusion of some lesser known IPs, as well as the return of Mewtwo. Oh well :/
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« Reply #235 on: January 29, 2008, 01:50:20 PM »
Luigi changed quite a bit from SSB to Melee, so perhaps some of the other clones will have increasing differentiation.  

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« Reply #236 on: January 29, 2008, 01:52:31 PM »
Toon Link and Ganondorf are confirmed to be clones (outside of their Final Smashes, it seems, but Toon Link's FS is unknown at the moment)...

Toon Link is rad, though, because his bombs explode in the toon-shading style...
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« Reply #237 on: January 29, 2008, 02:08:08 PM »
I'm mostly looking forward to what subtle differences there are between Toon Link and the real one, even if it's just differently-modeled weapons. I wonder if his boomerang will have wind effects or not? I also hope Toon Link has a unique FS, mostly because Link's is rather tame, and WW has some pretty interesting possibilities.

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« Reply #238 on: January 29, 2008, 02:09:37 PM »
Well now people are saying that Ganondorf's Up+B is actually somewhat different than it was in Melee...Make up your mind, people!

However, I've seen footage that confirm Toon Link works pretty much like Young Link (except much cooler)...His boomerang has no wind effect, so perhaps it does more damage or something to balance the loss?  Dunno...
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« Reply #239 on: January 29, 2008, 02:11:02 PM »
That's disappointing.  Sakurai always wanted to have a more fleshed out single player game which he accomplished.  It seems like he neglected some characters in the process.  I have mixed feelings, the SSE looks really amazing, Clones don't bother me as much as some people but it's very strange for Ganondorf to be a clone again.  Ness and Falco I can see.  Oh well, Toon Link is still going to be damn cool
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« Reply #240 on: January 29, 2008, 02:45:08 PM »
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« Reply #241 on: January 29, 2008, 02:49:28 PM »
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What I don't get:


So I want to know why there's only twelve new movesets, why there's only forty-one stages, and things like this.  I think it's pretty obvious that too much time was spent on the Subspace Emissary.  I don't think this is a mode that's going to stand the test of time.  I don't think it's something people are going to sit down and play a year from now, and I don't think there's even that many bosses in it from what I've seen, so all-in-all, I think they wasted development time on the entire thing.  Granted, I didn't see what happened in between when Ganondorf and Wario became playable and the end, but as far as I saw, we had Petey, Rayquaza, Giant Diddy, some Golem thing, Taboo, and Ridley twice.  This is what I saw when the game was up to about 60% completed.  That's six bosses, not including Ancient Minister, Giant Bowser, and Master Hand, who are likely to be the remaining bosses.  It just doesn't seem like the mode worked out the way it was planned.  Basically, the story works in one of two ways: Characters meet, they join up, then fight together, or Characters meet, fight, then join-up and fight together.  That's just about it, plot-wise.  Honestly, they should have cut out all of the bland-looking side-scrolling stages for an extra boss, character, or whatever.





Ok.  Wow, have we gotten spoiled.  You just perfectly put this into perspective so I want to thank you.

12 new original move sets.  That used to be an ENTIRE new fighting game...except it wasn't twelve new move sets it was just twelve characters.  So twelve new move sets and new balance and game play mechanics for existing move sets sound pretty good.  41 different levels to play on...wow why is that not enough?  It's 41 different levels.

Oh, and lets see too much time spent on Subspace Emissary?  First off, I am thrilled they made a full fledged adventure game because that is what I played most in Melee.

But Subspace Emissary is not all they added:

Online Gameplay,
Co-op Adventure,
Co-op Event modes,
Tournament modes,
Create your own levels,
Replays and photos.

The game is filled with tons of goodness.  

I am not directing this complaint directly at you thatguy, but many people complaining.  This game is still amazing, and it is still going to be great.  We worked ourselves up over wanting too much from this game...the truth is it is going to be great, and we should be excited to have all this news out.  

Sure, do I wish other characters were added to the game...of course, I really wanted Bomberman and Mega Man as you all know...but Wow, what we got what we have is something special and amazing.

Olimar, Sonic, Snake, Metaknight, Wario, Zero-Suit Samus, Roy, Lucas, Pit, Lucario

Many of these characters were characters we have wanted to play for years...and now we can.  

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« Reply #242 on: January 29, 2008, 02:59:40 PM »
I'm so looking forward to Subspace Emissary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yneKqXxXT8o

Though it was probably posted before...  >_<

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« Reply #243 on: January 29, 2008, 03:09:33 PM »
Lucario has modified Mewtwo attacks.

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« Reply #244 on: January 29, 2008, 03:33:16 PM »
lol the game has so much crap, and then theres people complaining..its so pathetic. They added a huge single player mode.....thats great. Plus theres co-op, then when its all done we can fight with a crapload of characters against our friends, and then on-line. The game has endless replay value.

This is what happens when people get their hopes up and expect everything, its happened to me before. Learn from it and stop whining, by all gaming standards this is a great game. This is Nintendo people, and if you havn't learned that they don't do everything you want, halfass some things, and then do other things(great things) completely unexpected then you haven't learned anything from Nintendo.

anyone expecting Krystal should seriously take a reality check, she's a friggin non-Japanese British outsourced character.
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« Reply #245 on: January 29, 2008, 03:40:33 PM »
Nah, I just needed to vent.  I'm already re-excited for it.  But I'm still going to message Nintendo to try to encourage downloadable content other than stage builder stages.

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« Reply #246 on: January 29, 2008, 03:45:52 PM »
To all those complaining...

 
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« Reply #247 on: January 29, 2008, 03:50:28 PM »
A roster of 35 is only a travesty if Ganondorf doesn't have a brand new moveset. Seriously, they spent man hours on fake-Ness but not on Ganondorf, one of Nintendo's most iconic villains? Double-You-Tea-Eff?!

Reports that Falco and Wind Waker Link being clones and Lucario = fake-Mewtwo are a bit disappointing as well. I'm going to love this game to death. I just can't help but think that there are far too many blatant missed opportunities concerning the roster.... though that's based on 35 being the magic number. I felt that having clones (and near-clones like Lucas) after like 35-40 characters would have been acceptable.
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anyone expecting Krystal should seriously take a reality check, she's a friggin non-Japanese British outsourced character.

So was Diddy. Nintendo has accepted both Diddy and Krystal into their respective series canon.  

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« Reply #248 on: January 29, 2008, 03:59:06 PM »
Return Melee stage - Big Blue!
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« Reply #249 on: January 29, 2008, 04:15:00 PM »
This stage is *awesome*... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzuZyIXyyvA
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