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RE: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #175 on: August 17, 2005, 08:18:25 PM »
If you read what I said that you conveniantly cut out of your quote there, you'd realise I just said myself the issue didn't exist.

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« Reply #176 on: August 17, 2005, 10:41:04 PM »
zakkiel: If you didn't notice, I was saying that unlockables and features like online, if you got them only on the Rev, would really anger some people. You're just talking about graphics, but if you read the other posts, we were talking about extra content that would only be available with the Rev, which would surely be a raw deal for a Cube owner who isn't planning on getting a Rev in the near future or at all.

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RE: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #177 on: August 18, 2005, 01:41:39 AM »
If I can't get everything possible out of my Twilight Princess disc without owning a Revolution

Well, try an Action Replay, then because there'll always be hidden stuff you can't access, with or without Revolution.

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RE: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #178 on: August 18, 2005, 02:28:21 AM »
Ssssssssssh, no one's found those sex minigames yet! >=|
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« Reply #179 on: August 18, 2005, 03:25:21 AM »
Maybe it's they way I have been phrasing my post that may have a few of you good folks confused. Lets try it this way:

I am not suggesting that you somehow "short change" GameCube owners by not maxing out Zelda for the capabilities of the system. NO, not really no. What I am saying is that after you make Zelda:TP as good as you possibly can on the GameCube, you take advantage of "Forwards/Backwards Compatibility   " and make the game better on Revolution. Foresight is what I speak of.  Texture work has to be so much better on the Rev, as well as more RAM, Wi-Fi and other "options" that are just not possible on the GameCube. And with the basics of the Revolutions architecture being a GameCube it can't be that hard to upgrade.

Case and Point:
The Nintendo 64 had this game called Perfect Dark and if you didn't own the 4meg ram pack you got 40% of the game, and that was on the same system.  Now that is what I feel you could have bitched and piss about getting the most out of your hardware.

Why do they put DvD-rom content on movie releases? If you don't have a computer with a DVD drive are you going to be up in arms about such a travesty? I believe the phrase is "you get what you pay for".

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RE: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #180 on: August 18, 2005, 05:08:37 AM »
People wont get piss off if there something small you unlock like a red and blue tunic or small mingame but if it something like you cant finnish the game without a rev than people will be rioting on the steets, burn down houses in anger, fliping car, robbing store, and killing thing.
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RE: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #181 on: August 18, 2005, 05:25:51 AM »
no one's found those sex minigames yet!

You meant he Lon-Lon milking minigame that VG-Cats mentioned?

but if it something like you cant finnish the game without a rev

This isn't Acclaim we're talking about and even they wouldn't screw up that badly. They won't withhold anything major because that would mean the game is broken but they might make one or two Rev-only dungeons that rely heavily on the Rev's features.

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RE: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #182 on: August 18, 2005, 07:31:31 AM »
"The Nintendo 64 had this game called Perfect Dark and if you didn't own the 4meg ram pack you got 40% of the game, and that was on the same system."

Yeah but the expansion pack didn't cost $200+.  The price makes a huge difference.

"It's a stinking optical mouse, turned up-side inside a clear stationary ball down so your thumb can glide the motions of the screen without the borders of conventional analog control."

This sounds incredibly believable.  Not only is it practical but it's a little underwhelming so it fits Nintendo's tradition of grossly over-exaggerating how great their own ideas are.

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« Reply #183 on: August 18, 2005, 08:25:42 AM »
I like how Ninty "overexaggerates" due to one instance in time where Ninty "overhyped" the water pack in Mario Sunshine, which they didn't...Drop the Sunshine example, it is BLOODY FREAKING OLD!
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« Reply #184 on: August 18, 2005, 08:52:05 AM »
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zakkiel: If you didn't notice, I was saying that unlockables and features like online, if you got them only on the Rev, would really anger some people. You're just talking about graphics, but if you read the other posts, we were talking about extra content that would only be available with the Rev, which would surely be a raw deal for a Cube owner who isn't planning on getting a Rev in the near future or at all.
I've been reading the other posts. The ones I've been flaming say things like

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If I can't get everything possible out of my Twilight Princess disc without owning a Revolution
which includes any graphical adjustment whatsoever, at least according to the normal usage of the English language.

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If you read what I said that you conveniantly cut out of your quote there, you'd realise I just said myself the issue didn't exist.
That's an argument over whether your statement/my reply are consequential, not which is right. Since nothing said ehre is consequential anyway, it's pointless. Believe it or not, I did read all three sentences you posted before replying. I didn't think the rest was worth replying to, but ok:

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Which is cool because they wouldn't do that.
1) This whole topic is hypothetical, as all topics relating to the Rev are at this point. If you'd read my original post, you would have noticed that I was soliciting information on its feasibility. 2)Where the hell do you get the authority to tell us what Nintendo will do? Your oracular pet hamster? 3) Nintendo has done far more bizarre things than this for cross product promotion with Zelda, such as the color dungeon and Tingle tuner (and why the hell haven't you forsworn all Nintendo products because WW required you to have a GBA to get everything out of it? Oh, right. Because your attitude is entirely irrational.) Using TP to push the Rev would be a far more reasonable marketing strategy than a lot of the craziness they've produced.

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RE: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #185 on: August 18, 2005, 08:55:36 AM »
Actually Bill I was kinda joking about that.  Guess I should have included a smiley face.

Seriously though it's what I would expect.  Something neat and innovative but not worthy of the hype.  I wouldn't actually be upset if that's the Rev's "interface".  I think it would be a good idea and wouldn't screw traditional games up like most of the ideas people have been throwing around.

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« Reply #186 on: August 18, 2005, 10:45:05 AM »
Oh, well I guess it's my fault as well for being finnicky about it...

As for traditional gameplay, Ninty already has that covered...(As can be seen by the likes of Mario Bros. DS and Mario Kart DS, Ninty hasn't dropped the traditional form of playing games)
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« Reply #187 on: August 19, 2005, 07:18:54 PM »
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I'm playing Wind Waker, so right now I personally couldn't care if Twilight Princess ever comes out. I'm quite content. Although I'm certain that'll change once I'm done. Actually, I'm glad TP got delayed, because now I can't get distracted away from Wind Waker by it.


Overall, I think this is going to be a great thing. I'm not a fan of "keep the game in limbo because you can always make it better", but Zelda games have been having a diminished impact lately, so trading some quantity for quality seems like a very good idea right about now. Zelda needs to be awesome.

Twilight Princess launching in line with the Revolution launch? Okay, that's just brilliant. Sure, Nintendo needs to take care of their GameCube owners, but I don't think this dealy is going to kill anyone who wasn't dead already. TP might've moved some GameCubes, or gotten some people to dust them off/dig them out of their closets, but it can still do that after a delay. And moving Revolutions is a much better idea than lost-cause GameCubes.

Combat the Xbox360? Meh. I think the best way to do that is to focus on doing the Revolution right, not by getting into a fight. Remember what happened when Nintendo put Metroid Prime 2 up against Halo 2? I don't think Nintendo should retreat, but they should definitely pick their battles.

TP is going to be like Link's Awakening DX on the GB/GBC. Or the Oracle games on the GBC/GBA. Right in the transition phase. It's an exciting place to be.

The Oracle games had some GBA extras, like the Advance Store and some extra rings. Someone mentioned stuff like bonus costumes and weapons for plaing TP on the Rev? That's a great idea. Provided that the version on the GameCube has a healthly amount of those in the first place. You shouldn't leave a group of people "wanting more" from a game. Fortunately, "giving people what they want in abundance" sounds as if that's TP's entire philosophy. I just hope Nintendo can pull it off, because that's not usually Nintendo's philosophy.

Link's Awakening DX had color on the GBC. So now the question is... what is the Revolution? Does the Revolution have something so awesome that it will make current-generation console games look as out-of-date as if they were black and white? And because of the delay, Twilight Princess will be programmed to be able to take full advantage of it?


I'm officially hyped for the Revolution.




Ruby....you and I think alike.

I still haven't bought RE4 and Paper Mario. With this delay I can find time to buy those games which I've missed out on.

I'm not saying delays are a great thing, but if it had to be done...it had to be done.
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RE: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #188 on: August 19, 2005, 07:55:16 PM »
yeah I have a list of more than 20 games which I've bought and not finished, so it's not a huge blow to me.  I just think it's a stupid move at this point in the console's life cycle, but if it has to be done to make the game all it should be, then I guess it has to be done.
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Re: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #189 on: August 08, 2008, 01:30:28 AM »
This was one hellava good time and a great read for those who can remember all the spirited debates the we had many years ago.





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Re: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #190 on: August 08, 2008, 10:37:33 AM »
Im saddened of course, but the whole "Nintendo is doomed" speech is really getting old, somehow we internet geeks who spend time posting daily on forums like this know more about video game business that the most succesful company in that business?

The bottom line is, if they port TP over to the Revolution, and are still working on a newer version, that will equate to a great business move-plus we fans get two Zelda's in two years.

Please tell me why this is a better move than just putting the game out on the GC, which already has a set userbase?  Considering the Rev's backwards-compatibility, porting the game to the Rev would just be outright stupid...


Holy ****, this thread is like bizzarro dimension...

Of course back then I was absolutely sure the game would not get ported to the rev with stupid controls, I never would have imagine nintendo was that much more interested in money than quality and integrity, what a different kind of fanboy I was, something like the Wind Waker situation would have hit me in the head but no, it had to be this decision.

Looking back Twilight Princess did little to nothing for the console success honestly, all it did was pissed of GC owners with a week of delay and of course gave some of us the frustration and uncertainty of what the game would have been if it was an exclusive GC game, but  it went "without failure or glory" (as we say here) for the wii.
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« Reply #191 on: August 11, 2008, 11:59:24 AM »
this thread just reminded me i never got back my $5 deposit for this game.

I went in asked if the reservation could be transfered to the wii version if it was officially announced, they said yes. The day it was officially announced they said i couldnt do that and i'd have to put another $5 down and they'd consider the GC reservation canceled. I told them to **** off and walked out. If i handled the situation better i'm sure i would of got the money back... oh well.
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« Reply #192 on: August 11, 2008, 12:45:57 PM »
My past self was a bit naive in the world of business...and also a bit of a grouch! :tpg:
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Re: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #193 on: August 11, 2008, 01:04:48 PM »
heres the truth the wii is barely better(if that) then a mouse and keyboard.we'll see when 1:1 controls comes out
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Re: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #194 on: August 11, 2008, 01:24:59 PM »
I guess this is acceptable thread necromancy, if it was an interesting thread and you point out some of the weird things that were posted in a different era.
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Re: <b>Zelda Delayed to 2006</b>
« Reply #195 on: August 11, 2008, 02:18:43 PM »
heres the truth the wii is barely better(if that) then a mouse and keyboard.we'll see when 1:1 controls comes out

Wii is much better suited for living room/couch gaming than a mouse, and is more fun on the immediate physical sense (pseudo gun controller versus a rodent on a desk).
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