Topic: Super Smash Bros. for WiiU (& 3DS)

[nickmitch]

Which they may not be, unfortunately.

[Luigi Dude]

Even if they were working on a new Star Fox, the series has lost so much popularity that wouldn't be enough get a 4th slot in.  Franchise popularity during time of development is what determines what franchises get how many characters and right now, Star Fox doesn't have much compared to many of the others.

[NWR_insanolord]

If franchise popularity in and of itself were what determined it, there should be negative two characters from Ice Climber.

[Caterkiller]

If franchise popularity in and of itself were what determined it, there should be negative two characters from Ice Climber.

There are definitely exceptions, hahaha.

So anyone going to the tournament in LA? I plan to wait in line for my wrist band early in the morning and be there by 4pm. If Nintendo World Report is stuck at the actual convention center I can cover it for you all.

[Caterkiller]

An official survey concerning the Smash E3 tournament.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HPMRWQ9

It asks for your favorite character. If you love me, you to will type in Ridley as I have. Pretty please?!

[Oblivion]

I picked Wolf. I'm sorry.

[NWR_insanolord]

I felt like being a jackass, so I voted for Slippy.

[Shaymin]

Greninja or GTFO as far as I'm concerned.

[Caterkiller]

Alright who do I have to back hand to get some Ridley love around here?! I should smite the 3 of you into oblivion! Lucky for you I'm an honest, understanding, handsome man.

[nickmitch]

I picked Lucas.  Gotta protect my main before I vote in newbies.

[Oblivion]

I should smite the 3 of you into oblivion!

Hard to smite me into myself.

[Wah]

Starfox adventures was horrible-
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LPQ6nT4UpA 

[EasyCure]

An official survey concerning the Smash E3 tournament.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/HPMRWQ9

It asks for your favorite character. If you love me, you to will type in Ridley as I have. Pretty please?!

DONE!

You're welcome, you honest, understanding and handsome man!

[Stratos]

After seeing the new screens and the redesigned Impa in Hyrule Warriors I am surprised we don't have her as a character in Smash (though that could be a future reveal).

[Adrock]

Impa might still make it in. And if so, I don't think she would be based on Hyrule Warriors. It might have been too late to use that game to draw moves from.

[Stratos]

You can probably get an Impa character unlock through her NFP figure...only $29.99 bundled with the Happy Mask Salesman and Hyrule Palace Guard #2.

[NWR_insanolord]

I thought there was a chance they might cut Falco, and I suppose there still is, but now that Ike's confirmed to be in I'm a lot less confident in that.

[Luigi Dude]

The fact Ike is returning pretty much guarantees none of the Star Fox characters are getting cut now.  This roster would have been decided during Summer 2012, when Awakening had sold over 400k in Japan, but hadn't had a Western release yet.  At this same time, Star Fox 64 3D sales were over 500k worldwide, so Star Fox and Fire Emblem would have been pretty similar in popularity when Sakurai was making his decisions.  If he decided at that time Fire Emblem would get 3 characters, then Star Fox is certainly keeping its 3 characters.



Also nice to see Ike with his Radiant Dawn design since it fits him as a heavy weight fighter better now.  My guess is since Marth is the lighter weight, faster swordsman, and Ike is the heavy weight, slow swordsman, Chrom will be the medium weight medium speed swordsman.

Of course I do like the idea of the My Unit character from Awakening being use to represent that game instead of Chrom.  Since the My Unit represents the player, that character could be considered the main character of Awakening as well.  If Sakurai decides that 3 blue haired sword users from Fire Emblem is too much, then the My Unit could be an interesting surprise with a Villager options to choose several different Male and Female designs.

[Adrock]

The fact Ike is returning pretty much guarantees none of the Star Fox characters are getting cut now.  This roster would have been decided during Summer 2012, when Awakening had sold over 400k in Japan, but hadn't had a Western release yet.  At this same time, Star Fox 64 3D sales were over 500k worldwide, so Star Fox and Fire Emblem would have been pretty similar in popularity when Sakurai was making his decisions.  If he decided at that time Fire Emblem would get 3 characters, then Star Fox is certainly keeping its 3 characters.

I'm not really seeing the correlation here and "pretty much guarantees" is a bold descriptor for what you're proposing. No offense, but you're basing this on extremely flimsy evidence. Bear in mind, I'm not saying Star Fox absolutely won't keep its three veteran characters. I just don't think we can use this character reveal as proof of anything except that Ike is playable.

[Phil]

Mr. Sakurai is a shrewd man, who doesn't have much method to his madness! There's no telling who is getting an invitation to the roster!

[nickmitch]

Couldn't Link be your middleweight swordsman?

I also like the idea of the My Unit character being in the game for reasons stated above.

[pokepal148]

Impa might still make it in. And if so, I don't think she would be based on Hyrule Warriors. It might have been too late to use that game to draw moves from.

They took music from mgs4 in brawl, that said if snake isn't confirmed at e3 he is out.

[Adrock]

Impa might still make it in. And if so, I don't think she would be based on Hyrule Warriors. It might have been too late to use that game to draw moves from.

They took music from mgs4 in brawl, that said if snake isn't confirmed at e3 he is out.

What?

[Caterkiller]

Yahoo!!!!

"Toon Link is cut! He appears on the Spirit Tracks stage! He can't be playable, it wouldn't make any sense! Lucario is cut! He replaced Mewtwo and now the new Pokemon from Gen 5 or 6 will replace him! It just makes sense! Ike is cut! He replaced Roy and now Chrom will replace him! You have to watch the patterns! Besides he's not relevant anymore, he wouldn't make sense!"

Yeah boy! I love the cheering for Ike but I love the salt from the goons even more! Keep the unique move sets coming Sakurai!

Like i've been saying from the get go, expect pretty much everyone from Brawl. The only really questionable ones are Squirtle, Ivysaur and Snake. I'm just not confident enough to to really judge Snake though because of Sakurai's relationship with Kojima.

Lucas will be back. Falco will be back. Wolf will be back. Mark my words and a 3rd Fire Emblem character will show up as well, most likely Chrome.


Also about Luigi Dude's sales/reps post there is somewhat of a relation. Sakurai does mention adding characters from games or series that made an impact. It's precisely why Sin and Punishment, Starfy and sadly Dillon's Rolling Western characters haven't been playable despite fitting in very well. Of course there is always an exception like Ice Climbers.


Star Fox has been in decline since forever but at one point it meant something and it has 3 fairly unique characters. While their specials are similar their normal and smash attacks are varied. Their animations and play styles are all very different and they have their fans. I don't think the Star fox count will get lowered at all.


With Fire Emblem Awakening doing better than ever and being very well received, I see justification for a 3rd(Chrome) and even a 4th(Roy) if time permits.

[Adrock]

I understand Marth's importance and why Roy was likely cut in Brawl, but I still really liked Roy, more than Marth in fact, and I definitely want him back on the roster.