Topic: WATCHMEN

[ThePerm]

lol, so i looked back at the comic..and its funny because they just sort of make out the first time which ends in Nite Owl having to quit cause he can't get it up. The second time when their in Archimedes after rescuing those people thats when they totally bang. In the comic though its really subtle instead of full blown sex scenes. In the make out scene you see maybe a tit, but this is intercut with Ozymandias TV commercials. The movie could have less of the sex and more cold war news casts or a nostalgia commercial to help build the story.

zack snyder must have a porno scene in every movie
Dawn of the Dead - Rich guy bangs chick and films it while Richard Cheese's cover of "down with the sickness" plays
300- itty bitty titty love scene, but i can't complain
WATCHMEN- downright softcore porn scene, might as well be watching Cinemax. Tape your dick up Pat!


they also cut out most of the detective scenes, where a detective is on to Dreiberg, which makes all the reason for Dreiberg to free kovacs in a hurry. Plus they cut out the newsstand scenes. You should feel total cold war tension. If i were doing it i'd have included a closeup of a clock every couple scenes as a tension device(just like the book).

[nickmitch]

I feel like they freed him on a whim.  It's like, they were already out, might as well pick up ol' Rorschach.

[ThePerm]

yeah, not what happened in the book. They were setting a plan up so they could free him and it would interchange between escalation of Kovacs (non problem, the movie does pretty much establish he'd take care of himself either way) at the prison. Its about 15 pages between the banging and the breaking. they bang on pg 27 and 28 of chapter 7 and they arrive at the prison to free him on pg 15 of chapter 8. In between dreiberg is hounded by the detective because he was at Blakes funeral, which pretty much outed him as a former masked hero. In the movie Kovak gets his costume in the prison, but he has to find one of his spares in an alley in the book. Hollis mason dies in between this. Nite Owl finds out in the bar where the investigating and goes "Rorschach" apeshit himself.  other things they cut out which help the story. Silk Spectre Smokes, thats why she pressed the fire button, she thought it was a cigarette lighter. When her mom catches her with the Comedian, they're smoking together and laughing with each other. Throughout the book she is trying to quit smoking. Dr. Manhatten didn't tell silk spectre that she was comedian's daughter, Comedian said it out loud blatently and she blocked the memory and changed it. She told herself he said "christ, we were just talking, can't a guy talk to his y'know old friend's daughter? What do you think I am?" what he really said was "christ, we were just talking, can't a guy talk to his y'know daughter? What do you think I am?", plus theres this Nostalgia bottle of perfume that shows up everywhere in the book, not in the movie. Also, theres a snowglass that is in the book that resembles Dr. Manhatten's silicon castle that is also left out.


despite its flaws, as the days go by im starting to like the movie more, its nice having a moving version of the comic in your head. Something to base your imagination off of y'know

i just hope the dvd is vastly extened. Return of the King was 201 minutes. I could watch this for that long.

[nickmitch]

I feel the same, especially with the "Tales of the Black Freighter" added in.  This way, you get a handful of characters to see in NY when the Ozy kills all those people.  Plus, not having the news guy was really a waste.  His interactions with Walter is what established Walter as the crazy guy with the sign and completely separate from Rorschach.  Side note: that guy sounded like John Goodman in my head.

[ShyGuy]

Watched it, didn't really like it. Rorschach was right.

[mantidor]

in the book it has significance. Nite Owl is an impotent wuss, after they fight some crime he doesn't feel so powerless, and then he can get it up. That part was not so much in the movie i think(im not totally sure, i went to go pee)

Yes, the scene was there when he couldn't get it up. It seems to me the comic deals with the issue of playing costumes as a sexual fetish in some way, but the movie really didn't try to do that, or did it poorly.

[Stogi]

Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie. 

This is probably what made me like the movie...the idea that humans are not entirely good or evil and that life is about choices...we make them, for whatever reason, and then we have to deal with the consequences. People always fault DC characters for being one dimensional or overpowered, but those critics should consider the Watchmen.

Haha, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree with Ozy, and the more I know I have a friend who would totally be on the side of Rorschach.

Like you, I identify most with Ozy. However, if the situation actually existed, I would follow in Rorschach's footsteps.

[nickmitch]

in the book it has significance. Nite Owl is an impotent wuss, after they fight some crime he doesn't feel so powerless, and then he can get it up. That part was not so much in the movie i think(im not totally sure, i went to go pee)

Yes, the scene was there when he couldn't get it up. It seems to me the comic deals with the issue of playing costumes as a sexual fetish in some way, but the movie really didn't try to do that, or did it poorly.

The movie didn't have Laurie saying, "Did the costumes make it good?"  So, the fetish thing was completely missed.  That was one of my favorite lines from the novel, and I think that the gratuitous sex scene took the line and any impact it would've had from the film.

[D_Average]

Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie. 

This is probably what made me like the movie...the idea that humans are not entirely good or evil and that life is about choices...we make them, for whatever reason, and then we have to deal with the consequences. People always fault DC characters for being one dimensional or overpowered, but those critics should consider the Watchmen.

Haha, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree with Ozy, and the more I know I have a friend who would totally be on the side of Rorschach.

Like you, I identify most with Ozy. However, if the situation actually existed, I would follow in Rorschach's footsteps.

Not me, I would have gone the way of Night Owl.  Getting the girl without the hassle of exterminating millions to save billions.     

[Stogi]

You think the smartest man couldn't get some?

[GoldenPhoenix]

Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie. 

This is probably what made me like the movie...the idea that humans are not entirely good or evil and that life is about choices...we make them, for whatever reason, and then we have to deal with the consequences. People always fault DC characters for being one dimensional or overpowered, but those critics should consider the Watchmen.

Haha, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree with Ozy, and the more I know I have a friend who would totally be on the side of Rorschach.

Like you, I identify most with Ozy. However, if the situation actually existed, I would follow in Rorschach's footsteps.

I would lie about it in that exact situation, then go through with it later on!

[D_Average]

Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie. 

This is probably what made me like the movie...the idea that humans are not entirely good or evil and that life is about choices...we make them, for whatever reason, and then we have to deal with the consequences. People always fault DC characters for being one dimensional or overpowered, but those critics should consider the Watchmen.

Haha, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree with Ozy, and the more I know I have a friend who would totally be on the side of Rorschach.

Like you, I identify most with Ozy. However, if the situation actually existed, I would follow in Rorschach's footsteps.

I would lie about it in that exact situation, then go through with it later on!

And bring the world back into utter Armageddon?  For shame GP, for shame....

[ShyGuy]

Never compromise, not even in the face of Armageddon.

[DAaaMan64]

Rorschach was right.

Agreed.

Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie. 

This is probably what made me like the movie...the idea that humans are not entirely good or evil and that life is about choices...we make them, for whatever reason, and then we have to deal with the consequences. People always fault DC characters for being one dimensional or overpowered, but those critics should consider the Watchmen.

Haha, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree with Ozy, and the more I know I have a friend who would totally be on the side of Rorschach.

Like you, I identify most with Ozy. However, if the situation actually existed, I would follow in Rorschach's footsteps.

Not me, I would have gone the way of Night Owl.  Getting the girl without the hassle of exterminating millions to save billions.    

Night Owl was a pussy

[Adrock]

a blood splatter in the snow(a nice touch..not in the comic, an improvement)

Yes it is.

I thought the movie was okay, but then again, I thought the graphic novel was just okay. The movie ending was better; made more sense. Matthew Goode as Ozymandias was odd. He's really lanky and I didn't really believe that he could beat up anyone, particularly Jeffrey Dean Morgan who was a dead on Comedian. Dr. Manhattan was still just as lame in the film though perfectly portrayed. I wish they kept more of Rorschach's chapter in prison, particularly the parts with Dr. Malcolm Long. It was severely abbreviated in the movie.

[D_Average]

Rorschach was right.

Agreed.

Its rare to see such moral ambiguity in such a big movie. 

This is probably what made me like the movie...the idea that humans are not entirely good or evil and that life is about choices...we make them, for whatever reason, and then we have to deal with the consequences. People always fault DC characters for being one dimensional or overpowered, but those critics should consider the Watchmen.

Haha, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree with Ozy, and the more I know I have a friend who would totally be on the side of Rorschach.

Like you, I identify most with Ozy. However, if the situation actually existed, I would follow in Rorschach's footsteps.

Not me, I would have gone the way of Night Owl.  Getting the girl without the hassle of exterminating millions to save billions.    

Night Owl was a pussy

True.  A bit bland as well.

[ThePerm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAiJBr-lOM0

[nickmitch]

Win.

[Kairon]

Night Owl was a pussy

I'm happy the actor who played him got to be something other than despicable, as his characters were in Hard Candy and Angels in America, for instance.

[Stogi]

God. Hard Candy. Why'd you have to mention that? I finally forgot about it!

[bosshogx]

[decoyman]

Heh, nice one.

I picked up the book a few nights ago, and have been reading it. Interesting so far... Actually, interesting enough that I stayed up way late last night cuz I didn't want to put it down.

[ThePerm]

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/031609-watchmen-funny-videos.php