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Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
« Reply #4750 on: January 13, 2021, 11:02:21 AM »
The Expanse - This show has pulled off something that Person of Interest was the last show to achieve: get me invested in these characters and their stories. The characters in Season 5 are directly referring to specific stories and events thats happened through the series (notably 1, 2 and 4), characters are asking about their histories and everyone has distinct motivations that is both compatible and sometimes incompatible with those they consider allies. The show takes a serious, more frank look at scifi rapid acceleration and deceleration hurts, lack of gravity kills, characters wear seat belts in space, characters born in space almost never go to land because their bodies cannot handle it and then mines stories out of that.

Then there's some unconventional characters - Amos Burton is one of the most "simply complex" characters on TV. Everything is literal and direct he even says in one episode "if you're gonna kill me then kill me, you have a clean shot to the back of my head", and comes off as one-note until you understand why - and then the context changes everything he says even in retrospect. It's such a balancing act that makes the most potentially dull character very human.

Where Game of Thrones fell over was that the series outpaced the books. The Expanse never will because the series ends (season 6) before the books finish, and the writers are in involved with scripts and production.

If you haven't started this series you absolutely should.
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« Reply #4751 on: March 26, 2021, 06:29:33 AM »
Schitt$ Creek

This was such a great show. I started it late one night in March and finished the entire 5 season run earlier tonight. General premise is rich family hits financial ruin and has to move to small town with nearly nothing to their name.
Clear favorite in this show I didn't expect to love as much as I did was David Rose. (actual son to the father played by Eugene Levy). Overly expressive in his mannerism's, voice, and personality.
followed up by Moira Rose whose grandiloquence rhetoric is a delectation upon ones own auditory perceptions (I don't know it that makes sense... but if you know the character, you know what I mean :D )

Those 2 clearly steal the show, but there are lots of characters to love in this.
It's definitely a comedy, but it has it's touching moments. You see how this family affects this small town, and more importantly how this small town affects this family that's been uprooted from their carefree lifestyle and grounded into the common folk lifestyle.

I may have finished the series on Netflix, but I noticed there is also a movie or something else left to watch. I'm hoping it a continuation or a follow-up and conclusion, as I absolutely want more of Schitt$ Creek.

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Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
« Reply #4752 on: March 26, 2021, 06:41:29 AM »
Invincible

Animated Super Hero show, much in the like of The Boys meets Justice League, although I'm also reminded a bit of Venture Bros even though I haven't seen that show since S2 or S3.
Let's just say the bloody gruesomeness of The Boys, the humor and style of the Venture Bros, and the presentation and animation of Justice League. If that doesn't peak, your interest... then I'm not sure what more to say.

This is a Prime Original, and just started tonight. First 3 eps are up, and then airs weekly. All episodes were around an hour long.
It's also based on some graphic novel series, and you may have heard of it. I've never heard of it, but it's right up my alley.

So far, I'm into it. All the opening characters are clearly analogs for heroes we know, as the opening heroes are mostly "Justice League". It branches out into more hero types fairly quickly (like JL Unlimited), and the action is very gruesome and graphic. There are blood and guts. People die. this is not for little children or those easily turned off by violence and blood.
But there is a good amount of light humor and even some small moments of relevant social commentary.

It mostly follows the "Superman" and his "Superboy", but it's not all Boy Scout Wonderbread theater, there some intrigue going on here.

Definitely worth watching. available on Amazon Prime
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Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
« Reply #4753 on: April 14, 2021, 07:22:18 PM »
I just finished season 1 of Raised By Wolves. I was browsing HBO Max and it seemed like a generic sci-fi show at first but it has Ridley Scott directing the first couple episodes. It also deals with some AI themes that are in the Alien series. I thought it got better as the season progressed and by the end I was excited for more. Recommended for Ridley Scott and sci-fi fans that have HBO Max.

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« Reply #4754 on: April 18, 2021, 10:01:39 PM »
so has anyone else checked out Invincible? still watching? all caught up?

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« Reply #4755 on: April 18, 2021, 10:37:19 PM »
I watched the first two episodes. It's alright. The animation is a little uneven.

I got to the fifth volume of the comic (not sure how many issues that actually is). A friend let me borrow up to volume 8. It's a pretty faithful adaptation so far from what I remember.

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« Reply #4756 on: May 03, 2021, 10:15:46 AM »
For all the issues Batwoman has (the first half of Season 2 was extremely heavy on the "i'm black and in america" angle), Rachel Skasten who plays Alice is absolutely perfect casting in the Arrowverse. She alone saves the show as far as im concerned.

Melissa Benoist as Supergirl, Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer and Caity Lotz as Sara Lance are the other three.

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« Reply #4757 on: May 09, 2021, 11:01:47 PM »
The Good Place

Second viewing. I binged the entire series this week. Wasn’t planning on it, kind of just happened. The Good Place is really good, and it may have supplanted Wonderfalls as my favorite show. I recently rewatched most of Wonderfalls’ lone season, and some parts did not age that well after 17 years. Maybe I’ll feel the same about The Good Place. I clearly really like these kinds of high concept shows. They’re similar in that they both follow kind of a dirtbag character who is positioned by circumstance to become a better person.

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The Good Place is not a perfect show. Jason was perhaps too dumb. I get that he was there mostly for laughs, and I like that he had moments when his inane analogies were weirdly poignant. However, Jason was dialed to 11 when 8 or 9 would have worked better for me. He is definitely the weakest of the main cast. At the same time, the entire main cast is great. I'm thoroughly amazed this was Jameela Jamil's first acting role (she has excellent comedic timing and her facial expressions are *chef's kiss*). Janet is easily my favorite. And I did buy pairing Janet and Jason which is odd because...

I’m conflicted on pairing Eleanor and Chidi. Their relationship grew over the course of the show’s run, and for the most part, the writers did well (particularly the end). I just really had trouble getting past the show’s first season twist in relation to it. They’re in The Bad Place and Michael paired Eleanor and Chidi specifically because they’re the absolute worst people for each other yet they’re still perfect for each other. I don’t know how that could ever translate into those two becoming lovers.

Despite that, the writing was very good. Most jokes landed even and especially the second time around. I like that the plot kept moving. With the way the first season ended, it would have been really easy to retread ground yet the writers wisely swerved and kept pushing the plot and the characters forward. They could have really dragged the show out, and it was much better because they didn’t.

The final season is the worst of the four yet still really good especially the finale. Its main problem: it was too short. The writers rushed through several plot points, and some characters did not get a proper resolution. John complicated Tahani’s afterlife a little bit then he was just kind of there. He disappeared for a few episodes then popped up in the finale for five seconds. Most of the characters started off as caricatures or archetypes then evolved past that. John never did; he never got the chance to be more than “stock gay man” which was frustrating to me. I guess one could argue he was a minor character thus not that important in the grand scheme of the show. I can see it if I squint. Then again, Simone played such a big role in Season 3, returned in Season 4, complicated things a little bit then disappeared until the finale. One or two more episodes to give both John and Simone a bit more depth and more to do would have been nice. Especially Simone. The writers could have done more with someone who doesn't believe they're in the afterlife. She was a great character so I didn't think she was utilized as well as she could have been.

Side-note: Brent was surprisingly handled really well as a minor antagonist in Season 4. The moment he realized what a **** bag he was and legitimately tried to apologize to Chidi was one my favorite moments in the entire show. Brent almost seemed like a caricature then I think about who our president was, and nah, Brent’s character was weirdly like the most realistic one.

The penultimate episode was one of the most frustrating for me. The group finally got to The Good Place, and it sucked. That was an appropriate swerve and completely made sense thematically and philosophically. The Good Place Committee also tricked Michael into becoming the Good Place Architect then proceeded to **** off entirely. The implication was they didn’t know how to make The Good Place not suck so they passed the buck onto the first immortal being they could. Sure. The group (Team Cockroach/Soul Squad) fixed this in one weirdly brief scene. They could have gotten at least two or three episodes out of that (i.e. brainstorming, failed attempts, more scenes from the Judge, Shawn, and the committee even though I find Paul Scheer thoroughly unfunny). I don't know what the best way to handle that would have been. The potential additional episodes wouldn't be enough for an extra season so maybe split the final season.

Anyway, I am a fan of appropriate endings, and The Good Place’s finale may be my favorite of any show including both Futurama and Breaking Bad. Each main cast member was given an earned ending. Eleanor convincing Mindy St. Claire to enter the system was the only thing that felt rushed. It answered a question I didn’t need answered but was glad I got anyway. Seeing Mindy St. Claire’s test would be a neat El Camino-like epilogue should Michael Schurr ever go that direction (doubt it happens though).

One thing I wanted to touch on is the counter-argument that The Last Door is afterlife suicide. I don’t agree because it fundamentally, intentionally, and problematically distorts and diminishes why most people die by suicide. For the most part, people don’t intentionally end their own life because they’re content and complete as in the show. They do so because they can’t live with the pain, whatever that may be. I’m not down with that reading of the finale.

Finally, even though I didn’t completely buy Eleanor and Chidi’s relationship, it was almost entirely worth it for this scene. F you, Chidi’s wave. Tears. TEARS EVERYWHERE.
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« Reply #4758 on: May 10, 2021, 11:32:15 AM »
I've watched The Good Place's last episode three times and all three times I cried ugly tears.

My wife once described me as an emotionless robot.  The only other times I've cried as an adult is when each of my dogs died.  And for a stupid TV show.

I highly, highly recommend The Good Place to everyone.
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« Reply #4759 on: May 10, 2021, 02:05:00 PM »
I'll throw my hat in on a high recommendation of The Good Place.

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« Reply #4760 on: May 10, 2021, 02:06:01 PM »
I loved season 1. I sort of fell off the last season before finishing it. With such high recommendations I will give it another go.

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« Reply #4761 on: May 14, 2021, 03:13:21 AM »
Castlevania (Season 4)

Season 4 was okay. It was the worst season for a couple reasons but the main one was it recontextualizes Season 3 (and makes that season worse somehow) thus huge swaths of Season 4 were unearned and/or flat-out baffling. Very inconsistent characterization throughout primarily because so much of previous seasons were ignored. Warren Ellis spent the entirety of Season 3 setting the chessboard then used very little of that. It was almost like he accidentally knocked over the board and tried to put the pieces back by memory then wrote the story from that.

I'm still organizing my thoughts as far as narrative critiques. I might post that later. Chances are it'll be long so y'all can scroll past that. The short version: What the ****? Why?

The animation was good for the most part. There were some truly nice set pieces though the CGI continued to be bad. I haven't seen a show blend it as well as Futurama. You could always tell what the CGI parts were like when the Planet Express Ship zoomed around, but it had the same shading as the non-CGI animation (not sure if Futurama used cels). The disparity between the CGI and non-CGI animation was so jarring in Castlevania. Anyway, there were also isolated incidences in which the faces looked kind of funky, particularly Sypha.

I'm surprised more Castlevania music wasn't used.

The writing was not nearly as good as past seasons. There were far fewer jokes which may or may not be a good thing to you. I mostly liked them. It lightened the mood so the show wasn't so dour, and it gave the characters some much needed personality. Additionally, there were no scenes as well written as Isaac's conversations with the unnamed sea captain or Flyeyes. Finally, "****" was used rather liberally in the dialog which I found distracting. Some of it worked for me ("I am Carmilla of Styria... and **** YOU!"). Often, it felt forced. Carmilla had some of the best dialog in the entire season, and Jaime Murray really knocked it out of the park with her delivery.

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« Reply #4762 on: May 16, 2021, 09:11:50 PM »
I also watched the entirety of Castlevania Season 4 today with my best friend and...well...I'm not sure "disappointing" is the right word, as I thought Season 3 was godawful, but it wasn't the huge improvement over that season I hoped for in any conceivable way.

Probably the most disappointing thing about this season was the animation, as I thought it was pretty bad throughout with characters constantly going off-model during fight scenes; characters losing detail; and the animation being pretty damn choppy most of the time in general. I didn't think it was above "passable" until Episode 9, which is apparently what all the money was saved for. I particularly question their decision to use a lot of 3D CG backgrounds this season, as they look incredibly unconvincing against the cheap animation. Your mileage may vary, though. We were watching these episodes on a 4K TV.

Something that really bugged me this season about the fights, though, was something that also really bugged me about Season 3: it's very clear that not a lot of effort went into storyboarding these fights from the start of Season 3 all the way to the start of Season 4 episode 9. Why? Rewatch the Bloody Tears sequence sometime. Look at all the inventive ways that the respective characters use their abilities, in particular Sypha with her magic. There is nothing on the level of that choreography until the big battle of Season 4 episode 9. In general, I find fights in this series post-Bloody Tears Season 2 to be incredibly dull and generic.

The pacing this season was weird. It's a 10 episode season, and I can say with great confidence that absolutely nothing of consequence happened in the first 5 or so episodes. Then EVERYTHING happens in the following 4. It leads to one half that's dragging and padding just as badly as Season 3, followed by a second half that's incredibly rushed. Characters just seem randomly incompetent or seem to flip their motivations on a dime completely off-screen. The show completely ditched any world-building. I get the feeling the writers didn't know this was their final season until late in development.

I also could have done without the big fight at the very end and the extreme cop-out it led to in the epilogue, too.

So what was good? Well, aside from the one cop-out, I quite like the epilogue episode. It feels like it could have come immediately at the end of Season 2, which is a damning indictment of the overall pointlessness of Seasons 3 & 4 in general. The big fight of Episode 9 was a great return-to-form, both for the animation quality and the storyboarding behind it. Malcolm McDowell is a treat as ever, and led to more than a few Milk Money jokes from the 2 of us when he was on-screen.  :P

And yes, what was with the lack of Castlevania music this entire series outside the use of Bloody Tears back in Season 2?
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« Reply #4763 on: May 16, 2021, 09:52:19 PM »
My friend and I also watched the first 2 episodes of Star Wars: The Bad Batch. Overall, I liked the 75 minute pilot episode, but the 2nd episode shows that this is at best another Rebels. It teases that dark tone, and then flips right around to being Yet Another Disney Star Wars story about someone parenting a kid. What, was Rebels & The Mandalorian not enough at this point?

On a side note, all the Bad Batch members are defined by particular genetic "defects" that are "enhanced". One is genetically stronger than the standard clones, one's a better sharp-shooter, one's Rambo, another's Donatello, and Omega has the genetic abnormality of "girl". She's clearly supposed to be a female clone of Jango Fett, as she has the Australian accent & shows combat skills without ever being trained.

On a more amusing side note, I see that Disney's gotten so arrogant these days that they thought they could rip off a motif from a Halo 3 theme with the Bad Batch and no one would notice.

Halo 3: Beyond a Pale Horse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UdX84171LY

The Bad Batch Theme: Omega's Theme

hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSo1rK4pWI

I don't even LIKE Halo, and I picked up on it.
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« Reply #4764 on: May 17, 2021, 04:04:16 PM »
I finally watched Invincible.  Great show.

It's a pretty great adaptation, even if it isn't 1:1, which I don't think it needed to be.  Many of the changes I would consider improvements.  One big change is the twist at the end of the first episode.  Instead of building to that being a potential season-ending cliffhanger, they essentially open the series with it and let the tension and dramatic irony hang over the first season.  I also think they might've rushed through a few other plot points from the early part of the series a bit too much.  I think they could've used maybe 2 or 3 more episodes to slow down the pace a bit and explore more of the characters or put in some more of the throwaway villains.  The series has a constantly changing status quo, from what I remember, which is why I think they could've sat in this arc a little longer without losing anything.  But again, that tension is there from the start of episode 2, so maybe it wouldn't work.

The show is just as violent and graphic as the comics, which was surprising.  They really don't tone it down.  I think they could've toned it down or saved it for "big moments", but Mark is constantly reacting to the violence in front of him so it usually feels impactful and not gratuitous.  However, that digital blood splatter effect is wildly overused.

One last thing I will add, is that one of the changes going forward seems like it'll involve Mark having the classic teen hero group of regular friends.  Outside of William, I don't really remember Mark having too many regular friends, so it felt like they leaned into a trope there when they didn't have to.
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« Reply #4765 on: May 20, 2021, 01:49:00 PM »
My friend and I also watched the first 2 episodes of Star Wars: The Bad Batch. Overall, I liked the 75 minute pilot episode, but the 2nd episode shows that this is at best another Rebels. It teases that dark tone, and then flips right around to being Yet Another Disney Star Wars story about someone parenting a kid. What, was Rebels & The Mandalorian not enough at this point?

On a side note, all the Bad Batch members are defined by particular genetic "defects" that are "enhanced". One is genetically stronger than the standard clones, one's a better sharp-shooter, one's Rambo, another's Donatello, and Omega has the genetic abnormality of "girl". She's clearly supposed to be a female clone of Jango Fett, as she has the Australian accent & shows combat skills without ever being trained.

On a more amusing side note, I see that Disney's gotten so arrogant these days that they thought they could rip off a motif from a Halo 3 theme with the Bad Batch and no one would notice.

Halo 3: Beyond a Pale Horse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UdX84171LY

The Bad Batch Theme: Omega's Theme

hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSo1rK4pWI

I don't even LIKE Halo, and I picked up on it.

I think it will get better over time like Clone Wars and Rebels. They probably need to get the 'kid stuff' out of the way early and it will probably rear its head again from time to time. Its got 16 episodes versus the shortened length of 12 from CW S7 so I'm optimistic we'll get some better episodes in the future.

Wild theory I just pulled out of my ass: Omega learns she's a direct clone of Jango like Boba is (unaltered as opposed to the accelerated growth troopers) and goes off to learn about the Mandalorians, grows up to be the Armorer or another Mando character in that show.
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