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TalkBack / Re: The Legend of the Mystical Ninja Review Mini
« on: December 12, 2013, 02:46:09 AM »
never played this game so i'm gonna give it a try....

I did play that CRAZY N64 game Gambare Goemon, and loved it...it cause a major IMPACT in me back then when it was released:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRj7XVFd3Ic

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Direct: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
« on: November 13, 2013, 04:11:52 PM »
what an hyperbolic reaction....

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Podcast Discussion / Re: Episode 358: What's Old is New Again
« on: November 10, 2013, 06:48:47 AM »
-Zelda WW: Whoa you guys are getting old or have been playing too many games for too often too long.

I'm 30 btw, but I had a gap of 6 years were I did not play many games, and those I played were PC like starcraft and battlefield. So I wasn't tired of anyting, even though I was a Nintendo fan since childhood till I went to college.

I think the new adult-hardcore gamer (25+) are driving this gaming era towards boring linear games, sometimes hand holding games were there is little or no exploration, very little open worlds (thanks GTA and Arkham city for their existence!) were there is little or no explanation are applauded anymore.

Which brings me to Zelda WW. It was released while I was in college, having no much interest in gaming, I thought the cartoonish style, plus my friends talking bad about it, very important in my decision not to play it, in fact I never owned a GC (my last Nintendo console was N64). Then back in 2010 I bought a Wii, and loved it, I loved skyward word, xenoblade, and all those long games!....and now I finally played WW and loved it!

Since then I can't stop gaming, I'm very happy with family-oriented Nintendo, their games, etc. My problems with them are the online and account system. Problems that everyone agree on.

Man, I hear this topic about length, and linearity over and over among my generation. Yeah we are busy, we have kids, but come on, don't be lazy, challenge yourselves, otherwise Sony and company will drive the gaming industry into boring movie-like games, full of quicktime events were there is some interaction (press circle button, now, press triangle now!...meh!) but no challenge at all! In fact even Nintendo the last 5 years has been adding ridiculous hand-holding, presumably to help casuals, ADHD people, and busy adults to finish their games!...the standrads are going so low, almost in every industry now, even in college with cheap earned grades!...

Please Nintendo, I want more open worlds, more exploration, more "boring" tasks, etc. Please Warner, more games like Arkham City (although I don't want copies of the previous games, like Origins). I only wish Rockstar would make games for WiiU!

-Agree with the VC console stuff!; It can't be forgiven, there are no excuses!: It take a couple of interns at Nintendo to do the porting of NES and SNES games to the WIiU. This is the ultimate cheap or dumb mentality from Nintendo! It probably cost very little money and it generates them lots of revenue at those expensive prices! Don't they want our money?...I think they don't wanna us to like VC or the WiiU!...wtf with all the NES games!...most of the games have aged pretty bad if you ask me! They ARE inefficient! Besides on an HD TV the NES games don't even look like and CRT...they graphics feel like washed-out!



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TalkBack / Re: Batman: Arkham Origins Review
« on: November 06, 2013, 10:56:53 PM »
lol...I got the impression that the game was above that number from the last connectivity podcast...anyways, City for me was awesome and I will definitely try this one. But not liking the idea of making this a year franchise

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facepalm!

Didn't Nintendo Co Jpn decided to stop the Wii production?...and wasn't it cause it was selling roughly similar number than the WiiU? (in other words, it was competing with the wiiU)?

This decision is very bad...I can only understand it if they overproduced Wii Minis month ago and they just want to get rid of them!

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TalkBack / Re: How Do Wii U's Sales Compare to Nintendo's Past Consoles?
« on: October 30, 2013, 09:41:02 PM »
I hope the Wii U fails and fails miserably. Then at around 2018 or so we can expect a console that will actually be competitive with the rest of the industry, and be loaded with REAL games, and not be relegated to Shovelware Dumping Bin for the third gen in a row.

Why would you expect that?

Are you blind? the fact is that Nintendo can't compete in hardware at the same level as Sony and MS!

They are a videogame company ONLY, they need to make money as quickly as possible. MS and Sony, since more than 10 years ago, decided that they will give you the best possible hardware at the expense of their own money, they moved money from other divisions, and waited until the instal-base was big enough to start making any money. Nintendo does not have that luxury. From what division they gonna move money from?

Power will not bring back AAA, 3rd parties, they have been rare compared to the other consoles since the N64, despite the Wii, DS, and 3DS being huge sellers!...clearly there are more politics involved than just lack of hardware!

The only thing that may bring back enthusiastic 3rd parties, is, again, spend as much money as MS and Sony and get some AAA exclusives...so do you believe that Nintendo has money to "waste" it for years while they sell a console at a loss (+ R & D expenses), while they pay 3rd parties to port their games, etc, etc?

Sorry but the only real thing that Nintendo can do is to sell consoles for cheap, and be ready to support their hardware as if they were the only ones supporting them.

If the WiiU would have cost, say 200, with 8+ Nintendo games at launch, plus another 8 games during the following year, that would have sold better. The Wii won cause motion controls and cheap hardware, the entire handheld division always wins cause they make Fisher-Price child-proof (and almost nuclear bomb proof ;) ) hardware at cheap costs, and they support them so well that like the 10 most sold games of the handhelds are almost always Nintendo games only!...

The 3DS is showing what Nintendo could have done...don't let 3DS numbers blind you, the big AAA 3rd parties (specially western studios) are not making games for it!!!! (always there are some exemptions, like CAPCOM)...despite that the 3DS is selling pretty well (destroying the nearest competition, the Vita, 10 to 1!!!...that has never happened with any other hardware before!)...cause Nintendo support that machine like crazy.

So, wrapping up. Nintendo is guilty for having underestimated price and support. Iwata has to answer what the hell did they do with the warchest (from Wii and DS years)....I couldn't believe that they delayed Pikimn 3, from the Wii to the WiiU...are you telling me that the last 3-4 years Nintendo EAD has only been making 2 or 3 games for the WiiU since years ago?....that's lazyness and lack of oversight!...Nintendo saw Sony buying studios like crazy cause they wanted to be ready to support their machines!...Nintendo should have humbled down and should have bought 2 or 3 studios (other than the ones they currently have) to help them making more games for the WiiU!...yeah, now they say that making HD is tough, but I am not going to forgive them cause they had the time and the money to be prepared, and they didn't. They left the Wii sinking for the last 3 years and they are telling me that they have not use that time to create HD games? WTF!

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The Nintendo 2014 forecast was made back in April 2013...they decided not to revise those numbers this time, but I think this is internal politics more than blind confidence.

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Podcast Discussion / Re: Episode 108: Castlevani
« on: October 26, 2013, 07:58:29 PM »
what's the name of the intermission song at 43 min?

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TalkBack / Re: Nintendo Downloads - October 24, 2013
« on: October 24, 2013, 08:48:59 PM »
Guys...Super Castlevania 4 is coming to the WiiU VC..finally a decent game after so many crappy NES games!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO-yjleYlVE

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Podcast Discussion / Re: Episode 354: Lakitu Cloud Storage
« on: October 14, 2013, 08:59:23 AM »
I would suggest to the Mario critic (listener mail) to take a more humble approach and think that it is his problem more than the majority. The games he mention have all high reviews (including lots of reviewers) and high sales, so, definitely a majority like the games and consider them, in many cases, masterpieces.

I'm kind of tired the people who questions popular and high-rated games only cause they didn't enjoy them. I would suggest them to move on and don't play them (and waste their money) ever again! To help the discussion he should have explained if there are platform franchises he always enjoy, or what are the high-rated popular games he always agrees are great so it becomes a little bit easier to agree with his points.

I agree with the comment that, from the games he mentions, Super Mario Land 3D may be a bit over-rated, but we shouldn't deny that it is probably the game that uses the 3D effect to the best on the 3DS, at least at the moment (before the new Zelda 3DS arrives, that looks uses the 3D effect even better for the game mechanics). And that should give it extra points, the 3D effect is not just for the woah factor but it is also part of the mechanics

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TalkBack / Re: Pokélaunch Party Australia: EB Knox
« on: October 12, 2013, 12:04:59 AM »
Man I was never into Pokemon...but it seems that it's the franchise that would make more ppl get into a line (other than Nintendo system launch) than any other Nintendo game!

As a launch game, it probably will sell lots worldwide and probably will be the most sold 1st party game this year, it will sell more than Luigi's mansion and Animal Crossing.

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Podcast Discussion / Re: Episode 28: TGS 2013 - FOR THE FUTURE
« on: September 29, 2013, 09:55:19 AM »
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Nice touch on Yamauchi and the founding of the industry as it is.

I thank NWR for bringing the topic on few podcast now, and I was kind of disappointed for the treatment of his death I saw on other sites....yeah GTAV sells and everyone was talking about it...but for the industry followers and not fanboys, this was an important event.

Besides NWR and other Nintendo sites, IGN and Kotaku had descent discussions about it...Gamespot was pretty silent other than a, surprisingly classy minute of silence (who was really a minute) on their game news. GT had nothing!

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I played MH3U demo back when it was launched, and felt the grind and initiation very boring and the graphics were meh, ok. I just bought it after the 50% off digital offer, and I can say I'm loving it...after the initial, not 2 hrs, but I'd say 6+ hrs to really finally get the game and feel like you can challenge many monsters. Definetely I will play more of this game (now 20+ hrs) and now I desire that MH4 comes to the west, and hopefully the WiiU.

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I can't remember but I don't think you guys mentioned that Nintendo doesn't participate on the Tokyo Game Show at all, for years now, and they even don't encourage 3rd parties to show their games for Nintendo platforms. Some listeners may no be aware of this and it's worth to remind them every time the TGS is covered.

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Podcast Discussion / Re: Episode 351: Finally Out of the Entertainment Biz
« on: September 23, 2013, 12:28:22 AM »
The nostalgia on the Ninja Gaiden NES series comes from how hard they were and how cinematic was NG3, plus I would say the music. During those days NG had decent graphics, but gameplay was awful, in all of them. But different from you guys, I always said NG1,  & 2 are crap.  NG3 is ok, but very hard. That would be the only NES NG I would play on the VC.

Castlevania is different though, Castlevania 1 had great music, great atmosphere, and it was more playable than NG. Castlevania 2 had RPG elements that I loved...I would go back and play those games anytime.

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TalkBack / Re: Playstation Vita TV Roundtable
« on: September 13, 2013, 06:45:00 PM »
Traditionally the Sony costumer is someone who values high-end products, ppl who are tech savvy.

I think Vita TV will look bad on a HDTV, so I don't think it will sell well. To own a Vita-TV you have to be aware of PS Vita, and probably own games or hardware, so that makes it a tough sell. I bet that the ppl who bought a Sony product instead of a, for example, a Nintendo product did so cause of the hardware. The Vita-TV is so non-Sony that, unless Sony starts massively advertizing that thing, I have no doubts it will bomb after the initial launching frenzy (PS handheld fans, PS ecosystem fans).

Moreover, if Valve's steambox if ever released, it will play both indie, android and PC games, making both Ouya and Vita-TV games look god awful.

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TalkBack / Re: Fly Your Way Into This Month's Club Nintendo Games
« on: September 04, 2013, 05:09:40 PM »
... I feel entitled to complain, ...


But after you get "paid" for your effort in Club Nintendo coins, doesn't that entitlement go away? After all, you received exactly what was promised: any disappointment beyond that point stems from your own faulty expectations/valuations causing.  (Only half kidding here.)


I agree with Adrock though. If you don't like the rewards program, just don't participate. Don't let some virtual coins and potential rewards influence your purchasing decisions, instead earn some good karma by giving away any codes you end up with to people who do get excited about such things.

but i started the program when the rewards were good but i had no coins for it....i have barely spend my coins due to i keep waiting when those good old times will come back, or they upload other games.

and from a marketing point of view it is obvious Nintendo has Club Nintendo has an extra mean to attract costumers and they probably use it to collect feedback. They are a business, they don't do charity...and i think they could have a better service. And I'm sure I let them know this after every survey, and i hope many other disappointed fans do so too.

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TalkBack / Re: Fly Your Way Into This Month's Club Nintendo Games
« on: September 04, 2013, 01:22:45 PM »
Godammit, Nintendo. Why aren't my rewards better? I demand better things from this generous offer that other first party companies don't have on their consoles. The world owes me things.

We'll I've been following the Club Nintendo Rewards since 2010, and they are going down in terms of quality and quantity. Back then I didn't have enough coins to get the stuff i wanted, now that I have the rewards sucks, even the year prizes suck.

Since the WiiU came, there have been 2 or 3 digital games I bought thinking that they were overpriced but the combination of digital deluxe promo and club Nintendo points would make those purchases a bit less painful, or plain good.

I bet most of the NWR ppl love Nintendo and took those CN surveys very seriously, and found that Club Ninty would be also a nice place to get rewards. Even the cheap never-ending (and impossible) rewards programs you get from super-stores have good prizes even if they are priced so high that are impossible to get. I feel entitled to complain, specially when they launch Pilotwings, a game that has been cheaper on Club Ninty, and it cost 1.50 on the VC.

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TalkBack / Re: Fly Your Way Into This Month's Club Nintendo Games
« on: September 03, 2013, 10:52:25 PM »
God damn Nintendo, for the 3rd straight month there is nothing that interest me on the Wii Club Nintendo rewards!!...the Wii games are nothing, and they haven't add any fancy and collectable items that are worth

The SNES Pilotwins thing is a (bad) joke...it's already available on the WiiU eshop for Christ sake. Where's TLoZ ALTTP?, where's Kirby?, where's Mario64?, TLoZ Ocarina?, Yoshi's story?, yoshi's island?

The only good news come from WiiU's VC now that Breath of Fire 2 will be available next Thursday.

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TalkBack / Re: Mighty Switch Force 2 Coming to Wii U in October
« on: August 31, 2013, 03:15:03 AM »
I will definitely buy this game. Kind of wish the 3DS eShop games (not the digital versions of retail game) were available on Wii U also, as that would be my preferred system to play them on.

3DS users would also point out they want WiiU VC games on their machines...like EarthBound and SuperMetroid...even Miiverese

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And they're doing it all for $60, no less
$50.

*looks at Amazon*

Oh, did Nintendo finally settle on a price? They started with $50, raised it to $60, and now we're back at $50. Whatever. My point still stands: it's overpriced for mediocre content and next to nothing worthwhile added.

What about ppl who never played it?...I'm liking the off-tv captures I've seen...I will buy it...for 50 bucks and the corresponding Club Nintendo points :)....I wish I had waited, the Zelda themed gamepad is nice...I don't see WW flopping...ate least it will sell at similar or better number than Pikmin 3, for a WiiU game that's ok.

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I think what makes it underwhelming is that not every Zelda fan or Nintendo fan liked Wind Waker, of all the games to remake that is the most head scratching one for them to release. It was no where near the best Zelda, it was right next door to the worst, which we all know is that worthless Majora's Mask.

I skipped all GC and most of the Wii era cause I found friends in college and grad school who were into PC and I had just built a powerful PC...I was fedup with Nintendo (I had NES, SNES, N64 and loved all of them) and found games like Battlefield 2 much more appealing...and loved mouse-controlled games like RTSs. So for ppl like me who (for any reason) went back to Nintendo WW is a tempting aquisition. Specially now that I care very lil about others opinions (back in the day I was easily influenced by peers, and videogame reviewers...I remember reading all the hate about WW...and decided to also hated it without even try it). I bet that tons of ppl passed WW cause of reviews, angry fanboys, low GC installbase, etc. Plus the younger generations...so I think it's a good game.

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Saying that every Zelda fan already has a Wii U is really a stupid claim considering the Wii U doesn't even yet have a Zelda game and some people prefer to wait to buy the system after the game they want comes out not buy it first on the hopes the game might someday maybe come. This is not the Zelda game *most* Zelda fans are or were waiting for this is just a game Nintendo knew had left a sour taste in gamers mouths and for some odd reason they somehow thought maybe upgrading it might get people to try it again.

Agreed

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Before you get all on the hate I didn't have a problem with the toon shading and that is still not why I dislike this game. My problem, and a lot of people I know complain about this too but it always gets ignored by the blind loyalists who just kiss Nintendo's ass and refuse to think for themselves, this was NOT a Zelda game. It took way too damn long to get to the Zelda part and by then it had already lost my attention. I have no doubt it ended up being a good Zelda game in the end because the Demo on the collectors edition disk demonstrates that, but the game started out as some odd pirate game that had nothing to do with Zelda. If the damn game would have gotten to the real Zelda stuff maybe twenty minutes or so sooner it might have been better received.

This reminds me exactly the way I used to think...truth is probably those ones are very small number cause the WW got so much criticism...almost every ppl I knew that were still playing Nintendo games hated the game...some for stupid reasons like the toonie stuff, etc.


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Anyways the Wii U getting a price drop is a big deal because that is what is holding a lot of us back. When there are just so few games to justify it and when Nintendo makes odd choices like they are now known for maybe people are just waiting for it to come down in price to justify the few games they know appeal to them? Not every gamer out there worships the ground Nintendo walks on and with good reason. This whole Nintendo games sell Nintendo systems bull **** has really gotten old. Not only has it historically NOT been that way, the best fucking games for the NES, aside from five games, are NOT made by Nintendo. SNES had a few more good games by Nintendo but the BEST games for the system were all 3rd party with a handful of exception. N64, it was not that way. Gamecube had some decent 3rd party support but it really fell on Nintendo's shoulders. Wii was a joke in that department so understandably there are those of us, apparently more of us than those blind worshipers, who realize this **** has been going on long enough.

In every single Nintendo console there are more Nintendo games in the top sellers than 3rd parties (this includes NES, SNES, Wii, and all handheld...all those systems ruled the hardware sales of their times), one could mean just attach rate in a bundle, but more than one game means that ppl like those games, or ppl who likes them promote them, or that the reviews gave them decent scores, or that Nintendo has good reputation among consumers, or that salesmen found they were the games that deserve being promoted, but you can't deny the truth....if you are an extreme black/white person, of course you gonna think that this is BS cause it is easy to find bad and very bad Nintendo 1st party games who also sold accordingly....but that "myth" can't be denied, Nintendo doesn't need that 100% of their games are the tops sellers, they just need 3, 4 of them to create that myth. In the other 2 console makers there are 3rd party games inside the top 3 sellers...I think this could be a good/bad thing...I also think that this is the secret issue (other than politics in the NES, SNES era, and low sales like N64,  GC and WiiU) why 3rd party devs also aren't that enthusiastic about publishing on Nintendo platforms...for any reason you want Nintendo games are the 1st Nintendo consumers buy historically!, it could be fanboysm, good brand name, etc., you name the reason.

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Yeah I want Mario 3D World but not enough to pay $400 dollars for it. If I am going to spend that much money on anything I need some real value. I got my Gamecube after the drop to $99 and the Zelda bundle which made it worth it, if not for that then I might have moved on like I did with Wii. I got a Wii at launch and boy do I regret that. Outside of Nintendo fan sites most gamers have a similar attitude about the Wii, it was a joke the motion controls were just a gimmick and they were not enough to sustain a fanbase. It was not a **** system but it was not their best work. NOW gamers are just fed up, if Nintendo wants us to buy their system they need to do more to win us back. Selling us games we didn't like on the Gamecube is not the way to do it. It's like if Sega would launch a new console and use Sonic 3D Blast remake in HD as their flagship title, yeah a lot of smart sense that makes right? Nintendo took their most divisive Zelda ever and chose to make that a selling point? Really to who? The people who are okay with Wind Waker already have a Wii U that might be true, but there are not enough of them apparently to move consoles, the rest of us Zelda fans, are waiting for a real Zelda game to convince us the system is worth it. So stop acting like if you don't lick Nintendo's boots your not a real fan that is about as stupid as those jerks who claim a real Star Wars fan has to hate the Prequels.

Who cares what others think....this so called hardcore gamers need to grow up (I can understand the social part of being influenced by peers and reviewers, I used to be that way but now I give a f$&k)...we live in nice videogame times, we have variety and consoles devs. that aim towards different groups...dudebros can go and live on the xbox if they want...I'm happy with the WiiU so far...I went back to Nintendo after I tried motion controls during the last years of the Wii...I bought it for dirt cheap, plus all the acclaimed games, and I just had a blast. Xenoblade, Last Story, Galaxy's, Metroid prime trilogy (I skipped the GC remember), etc.,...even playing FPSs felt so natural to me (remember I was out in the PC mouse-controlled world)...I didn't need the fake and unrealistic aim assist to play console FPSs (otherwise dual analog FPSs would be unplayable...this comes back since the Goldeneye 64 times...now is better, more sutile, but still is fake!)...and now with the HD WiiU graphics I think I stick to motion controls for my console gaming and do the rest on PC


I've have my share of criticism for Nintendo...I posted them in other sections of this site...but I know nobody is perfect and as I said, I'm a happy PC+WiiU gamer

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Don't you guys think that we will get a WiiU update before the price drop comes true?

I think the new Zelda consoles should come withe most recent version of the WiiU OS...

They need to get prepared for that price drop, that means figuring out how to advertize the product, how to talk with stores, etc.

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1) The price difference with PS4 INCLUDING A GAME is AT LEAST 459.99....and sony is thinking on bundles beyond 500

2) This is just what Nintendo needed to do to get sales. Nintendo can't focus on the hardcore gamer now, but definitely can go to reclaim the family and casual market. PS4 offers nothing to those markets and XBOX is damn too expensive. The ppl who bough the Wii for the easy to play motion controls can, in part be recovered if Nintendo advertizes the WiiU propertly. It also helps a lot that the WiiU is backwards compatible and Wii controllers can be re-used on the WiiU, if Nintendo can market this it will help a lot!!!

3) The 2DS for me is a meh....but, it can prove to be very profitable for Nintendo...we better wait for the numbers after Christmas (or after black friday or post pokemon launch)...if Nintendo sells a lot, well to me they are on route to match the DS sales even if there are doomsayers that claim that DS numbers are impossible and all the smartphones paranoia!...the 2DS price is competitive and will make lots, lots of parents buy one....I feel sad for those smart kids that know that the 2DS is the poor brother of the 3DS though...I was that type of kid and I remember hating my father when he bought me crappy copy of TMNT Leonardo that wasn't the official one...I cried and made my dad heartbroken and he felt bad for weeks!...he couldn't find an official TMNT so he went and buy the nearest copy thinking that I wouldn't care...well...I did (of course now I feel sorry for my selfish behavior...but kids are very selfish creatures!)

Besides the usual whiners I think this 2 news are very good...haters gonna hate though

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TalkBack / Re: Iwata: Price Isn't Why the Wii U Isn't Selling
« on: August 12, 2013, 01:12:45 PM »
This is why I think the price cur matters:
 
- After the E3 presentation Sony show NOTHING that may attract the casual gamers...PS4 is solely based on the core gamer. MS had the upper hand but decide a horrible prohibitive price for the XBOX One...500 bucks won't attract the casuals.
-So the WiiU has lost the casual but SOME of them are still there...yeah sure the tablets and smartphones are stolen some, but the ones who want to play in front of their HDTVs haven't gone anywhere.
 
-So a price drop combined with a new clarifying advertising, plus removing the old Wii's from stores will attract those casuals. Also it will attract those who see the WiiU as a nostalgia VC machine for now (until new hd games come)...also PS4 is just 50 bucks extra from the WiiU...Iwata will be forced to price drop...although he shouldn't talk about it until November...now sales should be going up a bit cause of the new games so iwata should be cautious
 

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TalkBack / Re: Iwata: Price Isn't Why the Wii U Isn't Selling
« on: August 12, 2013, 12:13:13 PM »
whoa, it looks like Nintendo is managed by Albert Einstein himself!
 
Question is....what were you doing the last couple of years before WiiU was released?
 
They had lots of data on the 3DS...they knew games (and price) sells consoles, they knew this a whole year before!...also, give me a break, the last years of the Wii Nintendo was releasing close to nothing in terms of AAA videogames, were did all that manpower went?, to the 3DS....yeah sure, you don't need too many workers on the SD graphics of the 3DS.
 
What did you do with all the money you took from the Wii and DS?, you hire more workers?, did you prepare for the HD development cycle?....ehhh no!...and that's Iwata's fault.
 
Nintendo has to AT LEAST start listening to their consumers, get rid of region lock, and unify the accounts so we are not exposed to lose all our digital games if the hardware fails!
Nintendo has to pay attention to the competition, even if they don't want to. Cause the competition wants the Nintendo consumers, so they want to offer things that may steal them from Nintendo, so Nintendo is forced to do something against that.

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Podcast Discussion / Re: Episode 346: In These Days of Graphics
« on: August 12, 2013, 09:15:50 AM »
I really don't mind the price on Pikmin 3, and I haven't even gotten around to starting a game on it yet. The game's been in development for ages now, it's cost Nintendo far more than they will ever make on it, and by all accounts it's a good game. To me, the care that reportedly has gone into this game and the quality of the experience justifies the $60, and Nintendo realistically probably couldn't have charged less for it.

The game I really have a problem Nintendo charging $60 for is Wind Waker HD. Most of the companies this generation making HD remakes have put far more effort and far more content into their collections than Nintendo has a single Zelda game.  Other than "Because it's the Precious and We Wants It!", what about that HD upgrade is worth $60?

But if the game cost them more money than supposed to, that's not our problem.
 
A good example is Duke Nukem. Man I had nostalgia for that game, I wanted it to be good, they took like, how much?, 10+ years in development....and the end result was poor, the reviews destroyed it and the sales very poor. I bet that all the companies that worked on it did never charged all the money they spent on it, and never recovered it anyways. This is not charity.
 
Pikmin 3 is good, as Eartbound is good, but none of them, the former due the lack of content, the later for being an old game that graphically hasn't aged well, deserve to cost 60 bucks. Because now, thanks to big games like COD, AC, Bioshock, Batman, etc., the standards are higher than ever before and we shouldn't low those standards with our beloved Nintendo!
 
The only new things Nintendo added on Pikmin 3 beside the graphical upgrade are the 3 captains (whoa) and 2 new Pikmin types, 2 Pikmin types!!!! (while getting rid of some others)...that and offline 2 player bingo battle...but that has been done since the NES times!

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