Topic: XboxOne ~News/Rumor/Speculation~ Biggest Console Released This Gen!!

[ShyGuy]

My TV is SUCH a burden, won't SOMEONE solve this horrible weight upon my viewing shoulders?

Lately I have mostly been watching Youtube videos through my Wii U

[shingi_70]

Of course its a made up first world problem. Most innovations in consumer technology are just that.

I'd say most of the big markets that are being worked on such as wearables, TV, and home automation are the very definition of solving a problem no one really had.

[oohhboy]

For the third bloody time. What is the TV problem?

[Ceric]

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home automation are the very definition of solving a problem no one really had.

I don't know.  I would like to be able to unlock my Home with a Clicker and have the lights come on.  I often have my Hands full.

[shingi_70]

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home automation are the very definition of solving a problem no one really had.

I don't know.  I would like to be able to unlock my Home with a Clicker and have the lights come on.  I often have my Hands full.

Of course you too, but its not a real big problem that needs attention. I feel the same way about stuff like Google Now. Its cool but all they sis was perfect the pwronal planner onto a phone.

[Oblivion]

Its cool but all they sis was perfect the pwronal planner onto a phone.

What?

[BlackNMild2k1]

Its cool but all they sis was perfect the pwronal planner onto a phone.

What?

LOL. he's posting from a mobile device, give the man a break.
I feel his pain.

[ShyGuy]

Let me ask on behalf of fellow poster OhhBoy:


WHAT. IS. THE. TV. P-R-O-B-L-E-M ?

[nickmitch]

The TV problem is that Cable costs too much and is still required to justify having a big screen.  I want my live sports, and while there are other options that I can put on my TV, those options aren't ideal viewing experiences.

[ShyGuy]

So Cable is the TV problem?

[shingi_70]

So Cable is the TV problem?

To be frank yes. In both interface and content wise.


Cable comapnies have had since forever to make the software on their  boxes much better but have refused to put the money into it. Not that big of a deal but stuff like the one guide does a good job at replacing the cable box interface. I do like the idea of app channels as well integrating your VOD apps inside of your cable listing.






Being able to add episodic games like the walking dead or The wolf among us would be even cooler as far as displaying content goes.


The second problem is that despite still holding massive ammounts of power the cable model has quickly become pretty antiquated with the introduction of VOD services like Netflix and Amazon Prime.  From a pure content standpoint I'd rather either do what I do now which is season pass the shows I really like or don't have a means to watch (No cable) or wait till it hits a streaming service such as Netflix.


Cable also isn't helped by the fact that many streaming services or storefronts are now becoming content providers and most are putting out Amazing to good content of all types.


off the top of my head


Netflix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_original_programs_distributed_by_Netflix






Amazon
Alpha House
Betas
Creative Galaxy
Annebotts
Tumble Leaf


Xbox
Halo
Untitled Documentary Series
The Street Soccer Series




Hulu
http://blog.hulu.com/2014/01/08/a-new-year-with-new-hulu-originals/




Being able to find high quality content other places will put a serious hurt on the cable companies espcially when people realize all these services are on their device of choce and even counting subscriptions are cheaper than paying cable.


The big holdouts seem to be HBO and the bigger sports networks like the NFL.




In more on topic news mutiple soruces are saying that Satya Nadella is the new CEO of microsoft.




http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/30/5362564/microsoft-new-ceo-reportedly-satya-nadella

[oohhboy]

So Cable is the TV problem?

A uniquely "American problem". That "One Guide" is something special? I have had something like that for the last 4 years for free, while DVR two channels at a time with additional equipment costing less than 1/5 of the price of a bone. No wonder no one in their right mind would buy one outside of the US.

We do have "Paid" TV here, but I look at it and ask why? Hundreds of channels you couldn't possibly watch repeated endlessly ,filled with almost as much Ads as there is "content of negative value" which make you question humanities right to be on this planet. Seriously, I didn't know what the "TLC' channel was until I asked. Considering the content I saw on that channel, "The Learning Channel" is worse than an outright lie. If this is what TV is to you, cut the cable and don't look back.

[shingi_70]

The Learning Channel was pretty dope in the 90s. Somewhere in the mid 2000s producers realized that it was more profitable too throw out mindless reality TV instead of unqie contwnt .

[BranDonk Kong]

Probably gonna set up XBL Gold tonight, but I've got to admit, the Xbone interface, when you get used to it, is really pretty cool. I now have 2 HDMI cables behind my cable box so I can experiment and decide whether I want it hooked up the the Xbone input or not - but it works almost perfectly.

[magicpixie]

One of the rumors that came out of the major leaks this week was that MS are working on a cheaper console with no disc drive.  At first, I thought it was strange that MS would be thinking about a hardware revision so early in to this generation, but it might make sense to at least start planning for a release and price drop in the holiday season.  What makes MS look bad is that the info was leaked so early.

A lot of the griping I'm seeing on the internet has to do with the fact that the hardware revision is a disc-less, 1 TB system instead of a Kinect-less SKU.  Personally, I thought a disc-less system is what they should have had ready for launch if they wanted to go with their original DRM schemes, though, I get why they didn't go that route.  1 TB is nice, and with the Xbone's automatic file-management(which I admit I have no first-hand account of) it is what the original system should have.  Dead Rising auto-downloading 13 GB patches, and taking up ~50 GB to begin with shows just how fast 500 GB can get eaten up.

If these rumors turn out to be true, what kind of price point are we talking?  Blu-ray drives aren't exactly expensive, and I'm sure the license fee per console doesn't amount to much.  Would MS be able to come in at a lower price point than the PS4?  And wouldn't Sony just be able to undercut them again(if they even need to at that point)?  I was on Best Buy's website trying to score a PS4(I got one in my cart, and by the time I got through the PayPal interface, they told me it was unavailable), and I didn't even bother checking out the Xbone stock.  Why would I buy an Xbone now with the potential of a cheaper SKU in the near future?  It'll be interesting to see if the rumor gains any traction, and to see if it has any impact on Xbone sales.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Considering that MS is looking to seek damages from the leaker, I'm assuming it's all true.

[BranDonk Kong]

Here's a hint - the Xbone is in stock.

[shingi_70]

The 1TB model is tempting but I don't have internet good enough to make it worth it. when you a 30GB. game getting a 13GB patch than I know this gen the only system I'm going digital with is the Wii U.
 
as far as stick deopends on the store I guess.I work at Meijer and the only systems we have currently in stock are the Mario and Zelda Wii U bundles. Other than that I'm of the mind that the leak is real just based on the info he gave us.

A few things I thought were suspect but just some of the stuff on his time table such as the first big Xbox One OS update coming in march to concide with build .

I do winder what else he knows since he said all he revealed wasn't the only stuff in store for this and the coming years. I winder who this will make Remind accelerate their annoucment plans for the coming year.

In news Spinal just launched for Killer Instinct and according to Phil Spencer D4 is getting delayed a bit.  There's also the announcement if NFL Now.


http://news.xbox.com/2014/01/xbox-microsoft-nfl-nowcalling it now by the end of this year the NFL is announcing their going to go a la carte and offer a NBA game time style streaming service.
 
 
 

[Ceric]

There has to be some good savings there... To NewEgg

Lets see... Cheapest 500gb drive is $54.99 and 1TB drive is $59.99 so $5 difference consumer pricing...
Alright what about Blu-Ray Drives...
$47.99

So we're looking at Max $53 because their is no way they are paying consumer prices.

For kicks and giggles lets just say that is the amount that brings us too... $446.99 still a $45.99 difference.

In the end MS is going to take a serious lost on trying to get any SKU down to PS4 levels.

[oohhboy]

The Bone has cratered in Spain. the word has it MS spent 20 Million Euros on marketing there which works out to about €571 per console sold. The PS4 is out selling the Bone at 15 - 1.

[BlackNMild2k1]

The Bone has cratered in Spain. the word has it MS spent 20 Million Euros on marketing there which works out to about €571 per console sold. The PS4 is out selling the Bone at 15 - 1.

So they could have just bought 35k people a XBO in Spain. But how many have they sold?

[BranDonk Kong]

Xbone controller is really, really good. Having said that, I have only used it for like 40 seconds playing Killer Instinct, which is terrible. The full game probably is a lot of fun, but I'm confused about how to buy it and I don't want to buy it anyway.

[shingi_70]

Are you a big fighting game person. I liked the game from what I played of it. I'd wait till fukgore and the story mode comes out to get it though.

The game itself has a pay model similar to league of legends.

[BranDonk Kong]

8 characters just isn't enough. I know the original Mortal Kombat only had 7, but even the original KI had 11. Getting the arcade version is pretty sweet...but I can play that on my PC or Xbox anytime. Plus (I'm assuming) it doesn't have the promo for coming soon to Ultra 64 (or any Nintendo logos) so it's dead to me.

[shingi_70]

Eight is good enough initially for the business model they're doing. This is a game heavily targeting the FGC, and has gotten pretty good reception form them.  For a game with a free to play model and takes inspiration from LOL eight fighters makes sense. It allows for better balance compared to say something like street fighter where despite having like 39 dudes usually 8-10 are realstclly used.

Season 2 which will add 8 more characters has been all but confrimed for coming this fall and going this route expands balance a lot. I've thought for a while now that the fighting game market as niche as it's become should have looked at the LOL model on how to sell their product espically games that barley have a story mode such as street fighter.

Thrvbeautybof the model is that realsriclly if you like fighting games but only really want to play with one guy, you could spend the $5 and be done.

Haven't played the old KI in a while hut it does not hold up looking at gameplay viseos. Music is pretty awesome though.