Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately

[KDR_11k]

Yet more evidence that the PS3 is no better than the 360 hardware-wise.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Yet more evidence that the PS3 is no better than the 360 hardware-wise.

I'm not surprised because from what I understand they both use different architectures and it is really quite hard to say which is "better". If there is any major difference in visuals down the line, it will be less than the gap between GC and XBox in visuals.

[Louieturkey]

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Wow, Sony just killed BR...

Seriously, porn is the entire reason any media format has EVER propagated, VHS, DVD, the internet...

I think Sony is actually TRYING to kill itself.

The fact that this isn't true at all is something.  Sony never said they couldn't make bluray discs, it's just that there are very few replicators at the moment.  Of course, there are already porn movies on bluray in Japan.  Read here for more info about it.

[capamerica]

actually this is a confusing situation.

The Blu-ray Disc Association is not anti-Porn, But Sony themselves are.

Sony can threaten to pull a manufactures license, But if the manufacture wanted to fight it Sony would lose since Sony does not have final say in it.
There is also the chance that Sony made a threat to them in another area, Maybe Sony is funding the manufacturer or they could be renting the hardware to them for the disc replications, Sony in that sense has pull there as well. Sony did in fact do something to get the manufacturer to deny manufacturing of adult movies. That is true.

The Adult movies in Japan is also a tricky thing as well, It could very well be that these movies were not made in Japan and were in fact duplicated in China. China doesn't need the 'okay' to manufacture movies, once they get the means to make copies then do what every they want. Just look at all the really nice pirated movies you can buy from over there. They look like the real thing, but there a hell of a lot cheaper. Where else can you buy $600 worth of DVD box sets for only $100. Unlike the US in Japan those movies are a lot easier to find in stores so It wouldn't surprise me that the adult movies were made over there. The porn UMD movies were done in a similar way, Japan had them but they weren't made in Japan, The US has 1 adult UMD movie and it too wasn't made in Japan or the US. They can find work arounds but their not always "leget"

What ever Sony has been doing to keep Porn off the UMD could be the same way they are keeping Porn off of Blu-Ray, if they have any really pull in the situation is another story and the only real way to find that out would be for someone to want to release a porn movie on Blu-Ray and then actually bring it to the Blu-ray Disc Association when they are told that Sony won't allow it.

[KDR_11k]

I'm not surprised because from what I understand they both use different architectures and it is really quite hard to say which is "better".

Sony is claiming their system is better because it handles higher resolutions at better framerates. Turns out it handles the same resolutions and framerates as the 360, nothing better. As such we had a claim that the PS3 is better (and I think some people still believe that) as well as the proof that it isn't.

Also from what I heard from developers the PS3 hardware is so restrictive to use and has bottlenecks that games on the PS3 will have to use fewer system ressources than on the 360. While the visible difference may be small (now) it appears to be pretty big under the hood. Not specs wise but what you can actually use. And neither system can really handle HD well.

[SixthAngel]

I don't know much about specs but I do know that PS3 launch games look better then the xbox launch games I have seen, so that bodes well for the inevitable improvements.  The difference in graphics will still be as tiny if not less then they were last gen so who cares?

[Artimus]

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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
I don't know much about specs but I do know that PS3 launch games look better then the xbox launch games I have seen, so that bodes well for the inevitable improvements.  The difference in graphics will still be as tiny if not less then they were last gen so who cares?

Numerous comparisons showed this to be untrue.

[KDR_11k]

The difference in graphics will still be as tiny if not less then they were last gen so who cares?

People who were deceived by Sony into thinking that the PS3 is vastly better than any other hardware out there and it'll just take a few months until that full potential gets used and all third parties make only PS3 exclusive games?

[utarefsoN]

Just bought my first HD DVD porn video. Run out and get your HD DVD players at once. its highly recommended. :-)

[nitsu niflheim]

porn actress are mostly ugly in the first place, having every little detail made into high def doesn't sound like a good idea.

Kind of like Quinn and her tiny pores.

[Arbok]

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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
porn actress are mostly ugly in the first place, having every little detail made into high def doesn't sound like a good idea.

Don't worry, someone will rush in with a Bloom style effect of blurring the image, and adding glow to the footage...

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

HD-DVD cracker successfully pushes Sony's Humpty Blu-Ray Dumpty off its wall

So, which HD format is now best?

Whatever format you save your HD content rips to.

=D

[vudu]

Are things turning around for Sony?  Sony and Namco Bandia to form Cellius Inc.

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Sony Corp., the world's largest maker of game consoles, said its PlayStation unit will develop games with Namco Bandai Holdings Inc. to help take share from Microsoft Corp. and Nintendo Co.

[Galford]

Sony is beginning to drop money hats again.

Whether or not this is another Game Developers Studio shall be seen.

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: vudu
Are things turning around for Sony?  Sony and Namco Bandia to form Cellius Inc.

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Sony Corp., the world's largest maker of game consoles, said its PlayStation unit will develop games with Namco Bandai Holdings Inc. to help take share from Microsoft Corp. and Nintendo Co.

This sort of thing has happened before, and a great deal of the time it ends in failure.

The best example of this is Capcom's infamous set of GC exclusives. They made a big deal that these games would sell systems, and you know what happened...None of them stayed exclusive for long.

So even if the PS3 ends up getting some really good Namco exclusives, chances are some of them will be ported to either the Wii or the 360 due to high development costs.

[KDR_11k]

I'm guessing Namco likes this, they've produced the PS3's best selling game in Japan (which is also commonyl considered the worst game on the system).

[Arbok]

Namco has been a huge supporter of the PSP, so I'm not surprised really.

[capamerica]

I won't say this is good for Sony just yet.
All this is saying really is that Namco is going to make some games that use the Cell chip in them. Most likely arcade games.

This smells like the same thing that happen with the TriForce alience. You remeber that right? When Nintendo, Namco and Sega all joined up to make the Triforce arcade system board. All Nintendo got out of that was Star Fox Assault, F-Zero GX and Virtua Striker 2002.

If memory serves me didn't Sony do a similar thing with the Emotion Engine?

[darknight06]

System 246 and the 30% stronger than PS2 System 256, yes they did.

[Smash_Brother]

Meh, a Time Crisis game would have been nice, but all Namco is likely to do is bombard us with more sh*tty Digimon games.

Now that Nintendo has Square RPGs coming back to their hardware, we don't need Namco's (but will probably have them anyway, knowing how port-happy Namco is).

[segagamer12]

namco makes a lot of games I play so they matter to me. I dont expect this to be a big deal though, they already have games on Wii and more n the way so no matter hwat PS3 gets it wont affect Wii much. Tekken on Wii would be nice but wont be missed.  

[Hocotate]

Remeber Bandai-Namco had/has 30 Wii games in development and or planned. I do not think this will amount to much for Sony in the end.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Now its not just Sony

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International Business Times) - Growing signs of weaker demand for Sony's new Playstation 3 video game system may be impacting some of its design partners, a new report indicates, with graphics system provider Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA), feeling Wall-Street heat today.

A series of reports last week pointed to longer than expected shelf-time for Sony's Playstation 3 video-game console, as well growing inventories across the country, raising concern about possible slower demand for the new system.

Santa-Clara Calif.-based Nvidia, which provides the technology behind the system's advanced graphics and special effects, may take a hit as a result of the slowdown.

"Although poor manufacturing yields on Blu-Ray diodes were the initial cause of PS3 unit constraints at retailers, we have seen evidence of weaker-than-expected consumer demand as availability has improved, likely stemming form overly high prices at retailers and a lack of compelling game titles."

Sony royalties garnered by Nvidia from the PS3 build are expected to be the primary driver of Nvidia’s gross-margin expansion in fiscal 2008," Michael McConnell, semiconductor analysts of Pacific Crest said.

Shares of Nvidia closed down $1.29, or 4.10 percent, to $30.18 in Monday trading on the Nasdaq Stock Exchange.

Misery loves company, and Sony is hosting this get-together. I could feel bad for Nvidia, but I don't.
I wonder if any other PS3 partners are affected as much by riding so heavily on the success of the PS3?

edit: and since I dug up this thread, and attempted to revive it I might as well post this too.

Sony Profit May Fall 50% on PlayStation 3

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Jan. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Sony Corp., the world's largest maker of video-game players, may report third-quarter profit fell 50 percent after its flagship PlayStation 3 lost market share to Nintendo Co.'s Wii. {I thought Wii & PS3 were not competing for the same market?}

The results may highlight Chief Executive Officer Howard Stringer's failure to fend off Nintendo, whose $250 Wii console outsells the PlayStation 3 by two-to-one. Sony may still exceed its full-year profit target because of a weaker yen, sales of Bravia televisions and growth at its movie unit.{I thought Nintendo was not competition?}

Shares of Sony have risen 9.6 percent in the past six months, trailing the 61 percent gain by Nintendo and Xbox 360-maker Microsoft Corp.'s 26 percent increase. Today, Sony's stock fell 1.2 percent to close at 5,730 yen in Tokyo.

Wii Wins

After botching the PS3's debut with production delays and cutting the price to compete against cheaper Wii and Xbox players, Sony will probably lose a record 191.9 billion yen from games this fiscal year, compared with profit of 8.7 billion yen the previous year, according to the Bloomberg survey.

Nintendo, the world's largest handheld game maker, last week reported profit in its latest quarter jumped 40 percent to 77.6 billion yen, fueled by demand for Wii consoles and portable DS game players.

In the U.S., Nintendo sold 1.1 million consoles in November and December, almost double the PlayStation 3 units shipped during the period, according to researcher NPD Group. In Japan, Nintendo sold 989,118 Wii units last year, more than double PlayStation 3 sales, according to researcher Enterbrain Inc.

Ouch, now thats how you rub salt in an open wound.
 

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Oh yeah, baby.  Stab Sony with a SPOON and pour TOBASCO sauce in the opening.

[KDR_11k]

TOTAL OBLITERATION!!