Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 665586 times)

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1725 on:** March 23, 2007, 01:52:15 PM »

LAFFS AND GLORY FOR ALL

OMG, IT'S LIKE THE BUNDY CURSE WAS LIFTED!

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1726 on:** March 23, 2007, 01:55:31 PM »

Any statement that starts with "briefly ignoring" is so clearly spin...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1727 on:** March 23, 2007, 06:00:41 PM »

Go launch in China where you can control the Media. Oh wait... No one can afford it for the most part their.

You make it sound like Europeans can afford to blow 600€ on one PS3.

wandering · « **Reply #1728 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:13:34 PM »

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I think Wandering was just trying to show how stupid gamespot's article was on the Wii.

Right you are.

...But, to be fair to gamespot, not all of their articles are stupid. In fact, they wrote a nice one just recently. Here's an excerpt:

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Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay dropped the bombshell in an interview with French-language newspaper Les Dernières Nouvelles d'Alsace (subscription required). He said, "The development costs of games have exploded, and it has become more difficult to have exclusives, outside of our own games. But we have for launch day [in France] 30 games, including MotorStorm, Resistance: Fall of Man, and Virtua Fighter 5. Moreover, we are expecting 200 games [for the PS3] by the end of 2007...As far as Final Fantasy XIII goes, I can tell you that the exclusivity is in discussion."

Yes, you read that right. Final Fantasy XIII may not be PS3 exclusive.

Kutaragi's response? "It can't be helped."

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1729 on:** March 23, 2007, 07:42:41 PM »

Yikes if Sony loses FF I think it is pretty much over for them, even MGS doesn't have the power that FF has, not even close! I tell yah Nintendo is looking smarter already by releasing a system that is not only relatively easy to develop for but has relatively cheap development costs, meaning that companies can actually afford to release exclusive games on it without as much risk. Makes me wonder more and more if having weaker hardware than the competition was truly a detrimental choice!

Kairon · « **Reply #1730 on:** March 23, 2007, 08:07:15 PM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Go launch in China where you can control the Media. Oh wait... No one can afford it for the most part their.

You make it sound like Europeans can afford to blow 600€ on one PS3.

He also makes it sound like the Chinese can afford to blow 6,500 yuan on one instead.

Edit: Yes, yes, I PHAIL at reading.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

MaryJane · « **Reply #1731 on:** March 24, 2007, 02:09:36 AM »

I really hope SquareEnix decides to bring Final Fantasy to the Xbox360. Then I won't have to wait 3 years for the PS3 to be reasonably priced just to play it. Also it would pretty much destroy Sony's chances in the console market.

You know what else I believe would destroy Sony? If Nintendo and MS announced that they were joining forces for the next-gen and the system would be fully backwards compatible with both Xbox's and the Wii, as well as having some way to transfer all downloads from both systems.

capamerica · « **Reply #1732 on:** March 24, 2007, 02:49:25 AM »

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Originally posted by: MaryJane
I really hope SquareEnix decides to bring Final Fantasy to the Xbox360. Then I won't have to wait 3 years for the PS3 to be reasonably priced just to play it. Also it would pretty much destroy Sony's chances in the console market.

I also hope this happens, I much rather buy FFXIII for my Xbox360 then have to wait for the PS3 to drop to $300.

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Originally posted by: MaryJane
You know what else I believe would destroy Sony? If Nintendo and MS announced that they were joining forces for the next-gen and the system would be fully backwards compatible with both Xbox's and the Wii, as well as having some way to transfer all downloads from both systems.

That is a VERY bad idea. Nothing good could come out of that. If you could buy all your games on one system or another even exclusives like Halo and Mario that would kill one of they systems off. Its best to just let Nintendo be Nintendo and Microsoft be the new Sega.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1733 on:** March 24, 2007, 03:02:37 AM »

lol i know what happened to sega
you do too

Ceric · « **Reply #1734 on:** March 24, 2007, 04:36:49 AM »

You know I got the most response from that post then what I have on plenty lately that I wanted responses to. Anyway. Nobody can just afford $600 worth of game console on a whim, in general. Not the traditional target market and expected prices. The mind set isn't there. A business it be just a drop in the bucket if it is deemed useful.

Also there was rumor at some point of a computer being made that would also play XBox and PS games, not the Yoshi box. Just thought of that with mention of the multiple systems in a system.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #1735 on:** March 24, 2007, 05:07:30 AM »

Why would you rather FF be on Xbox 360. I rather the game be on the Wii.

It seems the CGI could still be top notch on the Wii, and an RPG doesn't need super processing power to make a beautiful game.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #1736 on:** March 24, 2007, 05:16:36 AM »

I also heard that the PS3 launch in my homeland of Poland was atrocious, according to a Polish online game retailer the price of the PS3 there is 2,399.00 Zloty which is 827 USD which is insane since the average Polish person doesn't make a lot of money so it will be out of reach for a lot of Polish citizens also games range from 219 zl. to 259 zl. In comparison the Xbox 360 over there is 1,400 zl. with games at 129 - 259zl. And the Wii weighing in at a 1,099 zl. price point and games at 99zl - 229 zl.

and in reference 1 USD = 2.9 PLN

So a PS3 is the equivilant to 827 USD with games at 75 - 89 USD
X360 is equivilant to 482 USD with games at 44 - 89 USD
Wii is equivilant to 378 with games at 34 - 79 USD

I think those prices of consoles and games in Europe and Poland is a big ouch compared to the prices I enjoy here in America.

Kairon · « **Reply #1737 on:** March 24, 2007, 06:59:51 AM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Why would you rather FF be on Xbox 360. I rather the game be on the Wii.

It seems the CGI could still be top notch on the Wii, and an RPG doesn't need super processing power to make a beautiful game.

I'm sure a lot of us would prefer FF XIII on the Wii, but we just can't rationally imagine how such a thing could come about with Square probably so deep into development for the PS3 with that game.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Adrock · « **Reply #1738 on:** March 24, 2007, 08:58:56 AM »

I still think Final Fantasy XII will find its way onto Wii eventually. I'd also bank on a Final Fantasy VII remake on Wii.

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Ceric wrote:
Nobody can just afford $600 worth of game console on a whim, in general.

But they're out there. The new guy at work quit his job at Sam Goody in December and was unemployed for about 3 months. He used his tax refund to buy a PS3... "just because." He said he was bored and wanted to try Blu-Ray out.

capamerica · « **Reply #1739 on:** March 24, 2007, 09:44:50 AM »

I think we'll see Final Fantasy VII-IX on the DS not on the Wii

They could still do a Final Fantasy VII remake on the DS, Redo the cut senses and update all the models to use the Dirge of Cerberus or Crisis Core ones.
I really do think the DS could handle it, the only thing holding it back is the current DS card size (which can be changed thou). I think if Nintendo really wanted to, by making the DS cards bigger (512MB - 1GB) could easily start competing with the PSP graphic wise.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1740 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:00:00 AM »

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Originally posted by: Adrock
But they're out there. The new guy at work quit his job at Sam Goody in December and was unemployed for about 3 months. He used his tax refund to buy a PS3... "just because." He said he was bored and wanted to try Blu-Ray out.

He'll regret his decision when he's selling his body to other men because he needs the cash for food.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #1741 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:18:49 AM »

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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
I think those prices of consoles and games in Europe and Poland is a big ouch compared to the prices I enjoy here in North America.

fixed.

because the rest of the continent gets raped with absurd prices whilist the majority of it's population has minmal wages...

(for reference, the lowest the Wii goes over here is U$S700....)

Adrock · « **Reply #1742 on:** March 24, 2007, 11:52:55 AM »

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capamerica wrote:
I think we'll see Final Fantasy VII-IX on the DS not on the Wii

They could still do a Final Fantasy VII remake on the DS, Redo the cut senses and update all the models to use the Dirge of Cerberus or Crisis Core ones.

I don't think DS has the processing power to handle those character models. SquareEnix has shown what they can do with DS and while impressive, it's no where near PS2/PSP quality.

As for remakes, I'd rather they be on Wii. It needs them more than DS does. And while I still own VII and IX (though I plan to sell them on ebay), I'd buy Wii remakes.

Ceric · « **Reply #1743 on:** March 24, 2007, 02:18:07 PM »

I could easily see up to 9 on the DS. Now 10 up I don't know.

I'm pretty sure that a DS card is pretty much an SD card in the end and that could easily be upped to 4 gig.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1744 on:** March 24, 2007, 02:34:15 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
I could easily see up to 9 on the DS. Now 10 up I don't know.

I'm pretty sure that a DS card is pretty much an SD card in the end and that could easily be upped to 4 gig.

That would be one expensive game though lol. It is interesting, but it does seem like the DS Card is like a slightly redesigned SD card in look and size (maybe some of the technical savvy people can confirm that).

capamerica · « **Reply #1745 on:** March 24, 2007, 05:32:06 PM »

That I know of the DS cards are just modified SD cards, The DS card uses the same kind of Flash Memory as a SD card.
And right now you can get a 2GB SD card for about $25. Nintendo could most likley get the SD cards for about $5 a card (or less) and I would be more then willing to drop $45-50 for a DS version of Final Fantasy IX and I bet most people would be willing to drop the same amount of money on DS remakes of FFVII and FFVIII

Kairon · « **Reply #1746 on:** March 24, 2007, 06:00:36 PM »

$45 to $50 for PS2 games? Sounds a lot like the PSP!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

capamerica · « **Reply #1747 on:** March 24, 2007, 06:22:27 PM »

Final Fantasy III is a $40 game, To me a extra $5 or $10 for Final Fantasy VII, VIII and IX wouldn't bother me.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #1748 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:56:16 AM »

DS cards are, in fact, just SD cards backwards.

matt oz · « **Reply #1749 on:** March 26, 2007, 03:11:28 PM »

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DS cards are, in fact, just SD cards backwards.

that made me lol out loud.

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Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 665586 times)