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RE:REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2007, 11:27:29 AM »
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I love this game, and this review is great.  I do feel like it missed something: sometimes doors just don't open the first time you walk up to them.  You have to walk away and walk back towards them.

That's really damn annoying if you're running for your life.


Hasn't the same thing been happening since Metroid Prime 1?


That's just loading times (in this case, as it was said somewhere else, maybe even in this thread, it's disc "seeking" times.) In the end though it's still just the disc trying to load.

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« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2007, 11:27:49 AM »
"Have you played the game yet? Because the opening cut scene shows Zero Suit Samus, which kind of gives away the "secret" more so than any voice work would."

But I'm assuming that the general public of the Metroid universe doesn't see that.  Like all the generic army dudes Samus talks to probably don't know she's a woman.  It's probably only medical staff that has worked on her and high ranking generals and such that know.

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RE:REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2007, 11:33:46 AM »
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I love this game, and this review is great.  I do feel like it missed something: sometimes doors just don't open the first time you walk up to them.  You have to walk away and walk back towards them.

That's really damn annoying if you're running for your life.


Hasn't the same thing been happening since Metroid Prime 1?


That's just loading times (in this case, as it was said somewhere else, maybe even in this thread, it's disc "seeking" times.) In the end though it's still just the disc trying to load.


So the doors not opening right away are related to load times? Fascinating I never knew that.
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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2007, 11:52:52 AM »
-_-; no need to be snippy.

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RE:REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2007, 12:18:08 PM »
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-_-; no need to be snippy.


I wasn't, I actually didn't know the doors taking so long to open was related to load.
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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2007, 12:20:32 PM »
Oh lol I'm sorry it sounded sarcastic =)

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RE:REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2007, 12:41:38 PM »
I'm at the door to the final boss (I think). I've been playing through the game right before bed, for like an hour at a time, and I love it. Right now I'm backtracking through all the planets to find all the pickups. I love the fact that MP3 tells you the locations of the pickups--finding them on my own in previous Metroid games was the boon of the gameplay for me.

The door loading can get very annoying, but it doesn't make me not like the overall presentation. The art direction alone makes up for it.  
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RE:REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2007, 02:09:47 PM »
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I love this game, and this review is great.  I do feel like it missed something: sometimes doors just don't open the first time you walk up to them.  You have to walk away and walk back towards them.

That's really damn annoying if you're running for your life.


Hasn't the same thing been happening since Metroid Prime 1?


Yes, which is why it should be fixed by now.  I doubt it is loading time, and even if it is they can preload.  Most games do that for stuff behind doors.
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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2007, 02:24:06 PM »
There...there's nothing to "fix" though. The game is loading . . . I'm sure they didn't just leave it in to piss people off. If they could have had it not load at those points it wouldn't.

You can clearly hear the game loading, ESPECIALLY on the Wii. Just listen to the system when doors don't open right away. You'll here the system reading the disc.

(Also for the record the game does pre-load areas too an extent where it can, which is why some doors open more quickly than others. You can occasionally hear the disc reading while you approach doors as well).

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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2007, 02:40:50 PM »
[criticism]

Maybe they need a more intelligent pre-loading system though? There were some areas the doors were "sticky" where there was only one way out anyways... aside from the way we came in.

Or perhaps they need to incorporate it more into the game's world: doors that actually open "sticky," like they're malfunctioning or something. Everywhere in Metroid is basically run down, why not have doors that are sorta acting broken and evidently so?

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« Reply #60 on: September 05, 2007, 02:41:49 PM »
Because then people would say 'it's a cheap gimmick to compensate for the otherwise-glaring inadequacies of the Wii hardware.' Gee, Kairon. Don't you know anything?

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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #61 on: September 05, 2007, 03:27:03 PM »
I like that idea Kairon. If the doors that took longer to load opened slower, then it wouldn't feel like random occurrences.
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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #62 on: September 05, 2007, 04:06:44 PM »
True not a bad idea Carry-on.

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« Reply #63 on: September 05, 2007, 04:32:22 PM »
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Because then people would say 'it's a cheap gimmick to compensate for the otherwise-glaring inadequacies of the Wii hardware.' Gee, Kairon. Don't you know anything?

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Uh-huh.. lemme ask you, what do you see here?



Great Grecian architecture right? Timeless right? A wonderful work of art that should be preserved through the ages and studied by art history students again and again and again!

Those are ionic capitals of course. Let's get a close-up of what a typical ionic capital looks like.



Neat huh? Sorta crazy huh? Why do they twirl like that?

BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAP GIMMICKS COMPENSATING FOR THE INADEQUACIES OF ANCIENT GREEK ARCHITECTURAL TECHNOLOGY! THAT'S WHY!!!

The Greeks couldn't solve one FUGLY problem: columns were CIRCLES and roofs were generally RECTANGULAR. You stick a circle on the corner of a rectangle and what do you get? WASTED SPACE. The edges don't match up! It doesn't fit! IT'S FUGLY.

Oh wait, but let's return to the first picture I posted, and take a closer look at the corner.



Check out what that Capital is doing. It's just a big 'ol waste of space that PRETTIFIES the melding of the two shapes. Or, as wikipedia likes to state it: the capital projects on each side as it rises, in order to support the abacus and unite the form of the latter (normally square) with the circular shaft of the column.

All these fancy ionian and corinthian and doric capitals of antiquity that are so respected are really just extra moulding to HIDE and SMOOTH the aesthetic transition between column and whatever's on top. But that's what makes them so great, they're SOLUTIONS to limitations and problems. Just what I'm asking for from Metroid Prime 3, simple structural elements to aesthetically smooth transitions. All I'm asking for is some friggin' old-as-hell Ionian frickin' capitals on my friggin Bryyonian, Elysian, Norian, and etc. freakin' columns!

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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #64 on: September 05, 2007, 04:36:46 PM »
kiaron.....

have you ever once in your life said "f*ck it"?
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« Reply #65 on: September 05, 2007, 04:42:23 PM »
Figuratively? ... a couple times. Usually that's what I say to myself whenever I get tempted to intervene in yet another of Golden Phoenix's and Svevan's little wars.
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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #66 on: September 05, 2007, 04:51:51 PM »
I like the broken idea.  For me, I always just shoot the door as soon as I see it.  Virtually every time I get there, it's already open.

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RE:REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2007, 09:18:40 PM »
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"Have you played the game yet? Because the opening cut scene shows Zero Suit Samus, which kind of gives away the "secret" more so than any voice work would."

But I'm assuming that the general public of the Metroid universe doesn't see that.  Like all the generic army dudes Samus talks to probably don't know she's a woman.  It's probably only medical staff that has worked on her and high ranking generals and such that know.


Metroid Fusion had the CO call her "lady". I'd assume everyone she works with knows she's a woman.

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« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2007, 09:34:16 PM »
Oh for gosh sakes they BIO-SCANNED her! There is no privacy of medical information in the galactic federation, they ALL know she's a woman.
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« Reply #69 on: September 06, 2007, 03:21:20 AM »
The way I think of it, it's fairly obvious to anyone who interacts with her that she's a woman, but her legendary exploits get told and retold in the bars of the galaxy until some of the details are a little fuzzy.  The gossip is that one person took out an entire Space Pirate base single-handed.  The sex of the person responsible gets lost as an unimportant detail, and then good old-fashioned assumptions take over.

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RE:REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2007, 04:43:46 AM »
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Figuratively? ... a couple times. Usually that's what I say to myself whenever I get tempted to intervene in yet another of Golden Phoenix's and Svevan's little wars.


What happened with that post of yours above?

Something of that nature would have definitely been in my "F*ck it" category.
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« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2007, 06:32:15 AM »
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Figuratively? ... a couple times. Usually that's what I say to myself whenever I get tempted to intervene in yet another of Golden Phoenix's and Svevan's little wars.


What happened with that post of yours above?

Something of that nature would have definitely been in my "F*ck it" category.


It was fun!

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« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2007, 06:58:03 AM »
I guess I can see that. I do love to rant sometimes. Though, I must say I shouldn't rant as much when I am very very drunk. People say they are always funny, but that they are usually very offensive.
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RE: REVIEWS: Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
« Reply #73 on: September 06, 2007, 09:23:53 AM »
PROTIP: The "The last metroid is in captivity" voice was Dan Owsen of NOA.

I'd like to think that in the future or the galaxy where the Metroid games take place or whatever, Samus's gender is irrelevant.

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« Reply #74 on: September 06, 2007, 10:02:32 AM »
But now we know that that can't be the last Metroid. Metroids are dispersed over so many planets, who knows where the pirates have taken them?
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