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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Any news on the September Wii Firmware Update?
« on: September 30, 2007, 05:42:09 PM »
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NWR Forums Discord / RE: Halo 3 single player review
« on: September 27, 2007, 06:55:39 PM »
Halo Wars is a console RTS that's supposed to take place before the Halo trilogy starts. Unfortunately, it'll disappoint.
- You actually have to think to play a RTS. The unwashed masses don't like that.
- If dual-shock was bad for FPS games, it completely destroys an RTS. In a computer FPS, you use the mouse to aim and four+a few keyboard keys to move and strafe, as well as jump and change weapons...and that's about it for the fundamentals. In an RTS, you use to mouse to point, drag-click, scroll, double click, queue up waypoints, and you use at least 15 or more hotkeys to play the game properly.
If they release(d) it for PC, though, I'd be all over it.
- You actually have to think to play a RTS. The unwashed masses don't like that.
- If dual-shock was bad for FPS games, it completely destroys an RTS. In a computer FPS, you use the mouse to aim and four+a few keyboard keys to move and strafe, as well as jump and change weapons...and that's about it for the fundamentals. In an RTS, you use to mouse to point, drag-click, scroll, double click, queue up waypoints, and you use at least 15 or more hotkeys to play the game properly.
If they release(d) it for PC, though, I'd be all over it.
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NWR Forums Discord / RE: We are Legion
« on: September 27, 2007, 06:49:29 PM »
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General Gaming / RE: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.
« on: September 27, 2007, 03:21:36 PM »
Possibly. I haven't heard about a sequel, though...are they keeping it under wraps?
Also, they really need to diversify. Right now GTA and Madden are probably the games that anchor the 360's line. They need more types of games, or they'll saturate their target audience too soon.
Also, they really need to diversify. Right now GTA and Madden are probably the games that anchor the 360's line. They need more types of games, or they'll saturate their target audience too soon.
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NWR Forums Discord / RE: We are Legion
« on: September 27, 2007, 03:17:46 PM »
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General Gaming / RE: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.
« on: September 27, 2007, 03:08:31 PM »
Now that the core Halo series is done, MS needs to find its next cash cow franchise pronto.
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General Gaming / RE: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.
« on: September 26, 2007, 07:21:28 PM »
I agree that a lot of people probably bought 360s in the past couple of months because they knew Halo 3 was coming out.
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General Gaming / RE: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.
« on: September 26, 2007, 11:12:42 AM »
I want to know how you can give a 9.5/10 to a game and then say that the last part of the campaign was so bad that you would not be willing to play through it ever again. Either the problem doesn't exist (in which case the reviewer is a liar), or the reviewer contradicts himself and is a hypocrite.
Also, reviewers are not known to play games in-depth (which is why their RTS reviews are nearly useless, for example it takes months of online play before you can figure out whether a game is unbalanced or not). I wonder how many MP3 reviewers set aiming mode to 'Advanced, Free Lock-On' when they played the game, and how that would have affected their perception of the game if they had.
I'm not saying that Halo 3 is a bad game. I did say that I hated dual-analog FPSes. Does that mean I hate Halo? Think about that carefully. Halo X on the PC and Halo X on the XBox (360) are superficially the same game. But when you have two radically different input methods, a core part of the game, can you still call them the same game? For me (and a lot of other people), Halo or any other shooter is unplayable on a console. But I tried Halo 1 on PC a long time ago and it was not too bad. And it will be interesting to play through 2 and 3 once I get a new computer and MS releases the latter for the PC.
Also, reviewers are not known to play games in-depth (which is why their RTS reviews are nearly useless, for example it takes months of online play before you can figure out whether a game is unbalanced or not). I wonder how many MP3 reviewers set aiming mode to 'Advanced, Free Lock-On' when they played the game, and how that would have affected their perception of the game if they had.
I'm not saying that Halo 3 is a bad game. I did say that I hated dual-analog FPSes. Does that mean I hate Halo? Think about that carefully. Halo X on the PC and Halo X on the XBox (360) are superficially the same game. But when you have two radically different input methods, a core part of the game, can you still call them the same game? For me (and a lot of other people), Halo or any other shooter is unplayable on a console. But I tried Halo 1 on PC a long time ago and it was not too bad. And it will be interesting to play through 2 and 3 once I get a new computer and MS releases the latter for the PC.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: 2-3 times powerful
« on: September 26, 2007, 06:45:37 AM »
Computers are tools...just like the people who do nothing but obsess over their stats without considering how well they perform their jobs.
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NWR Forums Discord / RE: We are Legion
« on: September 26, 2007, 12:42:17 AM »
Your books will be about...a magical raccoon! His name is Squiggles! He has an afro, and he shoots pixie dust out of his bung-hole!
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General Gaming / RE: This just in: Developers and publishers still have no business sense!
« on: September 26, 2007, 12:37:00 AM »
And not to rag on EA, but I doubt they have the creative firepower to compete in terms of first-party and original franchise titles.
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General Chat / RE: any refugees here? (Official "I'm from NSider" Thread)
« on: September 25, 2007, 05:39:56 PM »
Cool, welcome!
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General Gaming / RE: This just in: Developers and publishers still have no business sense!
« on: September 25, 2007, 05:37:07 PM »
I think you're right, thatguy. Also, I didn't get the context of the posts leading up to yours. Regardless, I do agree that Nintendo should *not* enter domineering mode again.
What I *would* like to see is Nintendo funding the development of a couple 'key' games by reputable second/third parties- an epic multiplayer FPS and/or RTS (which would be really cool on Wii), an epic JRPG with a really good storyline, etc. Nintendo really needs to take a more proactive stance in regards to 'selling' the Wii to third-party developers and proving its worth for 'traditional' games and development styles, because it seems like sales numbers alone may not be enough.
What I *would* like to see is Nintendo funding the development of a couple 'key' games by reputable second/third parties- an epic multiplayer FPS and/or RTS (which would be really cool on Wii), an epic JRPG with a really good storyline, etc. Nintendo really needs to take a more proactive stance in regards to 'selling' the Wii to third-party developers and proving its worth for 'traditional' games and development styles, because it seems like sales numbers alone may not be enough.
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General Gaming / RE: This just in: Developers and publishers still have no business sense!
« on: September 25, 2007, 05:08:47 PM »Quote
Where does that leave Nintendo? In a ton of trouble, clearly.
Of course, this is if Nintendo takes the "You're with us or you're with them." strategy. If they avoid that, and continue to be nice to third parties, hopefully SE never feels the need to create its own console. It's really hard to say that someone is too small or too separate to create a console. After all, Nintendo made cards, then toys, then video games. What's to say Mattel doesn't want back in to video games?
You make lots of good points, but it seems Nintendo is not (overtly) doing anything wrong in terms of luring third parties- no arrogant demands, hard-to-get devkits, high licensing fees...I mean, devs are willing to make games, for the console...just crappy ones. So I think that the issues at hand are more fundamental than simply a hegemonic Nintendo.
Also remember that console R&D and manufacturing takes a lot of resources, especially if you want the cutting-edge hardware and online infrastructure necessary for certain types of game development styles. Sony and MS lose money on the hardware, but make it up through licensing fees. Current third parties only have to worry about licensing fees and game development costs. So it would probably be a tremendous financial burden with possibly disastrous results to whoever decided to make the hardware.
One more thing- a lot of companies that would otherwise do so do not have the consumer electronics experience required to successfully compete in the market. Yes, Nintendo went into the electronic games business after making toys and ramen, but the whole industry was still in a very formative state. Sony and MS both have experience marketing consumer technological products and understand the R&D and software work that goes into making high-end consumer electronics. It seems like expectations have somewhat solidified at this point, meaning that gamers have a very specific idea as to what they want and what is 'good' and 'bad' in a console, and as a result they are much less willing to tolerate or forgive deviations to that model.
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General Gaming / RE: This just in: Developers and publishers still have no business sense!
« on: September 25, 2007, 04:05:27 PM »Quote
Sony jumped into the console race, Microsoft jumped in the console race. What's stopping GE, Apple, or Mistubishi from hopping in, too? Just because you own one generation against one set of competitors in one situation, doesn't mean you'll win the next.
Sony had a half-finished SNES add-on that they could turn into a console, Microsoft had mountains of cash they could burn through (and their XBox division is still miles away from recovering their investment). Entering the console race is really, really difficult, and only getting harder.
Incidentally, Apple had a console at one point- the Apple Pippin. None of the third-parties you mentioned have the breadth, quality, and depth of titles to support a console as a first party.
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General Gaming / RE: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.
« on: September 25, 2007, 10:17:33 AM »Quote
Millions of people have a great time playing it.
I'd wager that they'd have even more fun if they tried out a computer FPS, or alternately that even more people would be having fun playing Halo 3 if the XBox came with a mouse-like input.
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I'm sure you'd like it if Nintendo made it.
I hated dual-shock console FPSes before Halo came out, and I still hate them now. GP likes BioShock, and I like Starcraft, and neither game really has anything to do with Nintendo.
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General Gaming / RE: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.
« on: September 25, 2007, 04:37:35 AM »
I'm not going to address the question of whether Halo 3 on the XBox is a great game, a crappy game, or anything in between (don't even get me started on dual-analog). But I think there is something fundamentally wrong with the way reviews are working when every single review gushes over a terribly limited level editor and a replay feature as if they were game-making, revolutionary, innovative features.
Ultimately, I don't like what MS is doing because they are fundamentally lowering standards. Online play? It's free for almost every relevant PC game, but apparently it costs you $50 a year on the 360. Downloadable maps and content? Again, free for PC games, but a veritable money-maker for MS. The controls are great for many games, but terrible for the first-person shooters that comprise the 360's core line. Dumbed-down difficulty and level design on traditionally 'hard-core'/challenging games because of this need to make shooters appeal to the mass market. And now level editors and saved replays, mainstays of PC games for years, show up crippled and beaten half to death on a 360 game, and are given a standing ovation.
MS could be doing so much better. But between their PC ports of their top-line 360 games, their unreliable hardware, and the questionable choices they are making with regards to content, they are jeopardizing both consumers and their own business...which is really strange, considering the fact that their console gaming division could really become a moneymaker for the company in the future.
Ultimately, I don't like what MS is doing because they are fundamentally lowering standards. Online play? It's free for almost every relevant PC game, but apparently it costs you $50 a year on the 360. Downloadable maps and content? Again, free for PC games, but a veritable money-maker for MS. The controls are great for many games, but terrible for the first-person shooters that comprise the 360's core line. Dumbed-down difficulty and level design on traditionally 'hard-core'/challenging games because of this need to make shooters appeal to the mass market. And now level editors and saved replays, mainstays of PC games for years, show up crippled and beaten half to death on a 360 game, and are given a standing ovation.
MS could be doing so much better. But between their PC ports of their top-line 360 games, their unreliable hardware, and the questionable choices they are making with regards to content, they are jeopardizing both consumers and their own business...which is really strange, considering the fact that their console gaming division could really become a moneymaker for the company in the future.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: 2-3 times powerful
« on: September 24, 2007, 08:53:56 AM »Quote
I realize that they are "tech" guys, so they want to see cutting edge
Would these guys be happier if consoles cost millions of dollars, incorporated supercomputer technology, and were manufactured in lots of ten per year? Yes? No? Then maybe they should keep their mouths shut. Like it or not, electronic entertainment is becoming more and more widespread. The console is a tool, an instrument. If I play a game on it, walk away, and feel that I have taken something of value from it, then it has done its purpose. End of story.
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General Gaming / RE: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.
« on: September 23, 2007, 07:20:29 PM »Quote
penultimate chapter is so bad, just thinking about it puts a rotten taste in my mouth. It's the kind of level where, if playing through Halo 3 again, I might just stop once I reached it and not bother finishing the skirmish, much less the fight.
So if IGN thinks this about the game's single-player mode, exactly why did they still give it a 9.5? If MP3 had faced the same issue, would it have gotten anything higher than a 7.5?
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Enjoy watching your supposed equal getting shot in the face repeatedly and generally making himself utterly useless. What is the point of sticking you with an AI compatriot if all he's good at is respawning?
Hey, look, more AI problems. Wasn't Daikatana crucified in part because of this very same issue?
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This new addition [Forge mode] to the Halo series will keep these eleven maps fresh for years.
I don't see how a gimped level editor with no terrain editing capabilities and very, very limited scripting could ever provide that much replay value.
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Now imagine if you could keep a visual record of everything you ever do in Halo 3. It's not only possible, it happens automatically. Every time you play Halo 3 -- be it a campaign level, Forge, or multiplayer -- the 3D game data from your match is saved to your hard drive or memory card.
Now you can be a tool on YouTube using technology that was implemented in freaking Starcraft (!) at least three years ago.
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Halo had ugly art design, and Halo 3 doesn't really look much different. Even UT2004 had more interesting levels. Generic post-apocalyptic plains terrain for the win.
Now, I don't think the game is *bad* persay, or anything less than 'very good'. I will eventually get it for PC when MS does the inevitable feature-enhanced port. But as was mentioned, the content of these reviews really, really bites. And I really hate how features that are neither new to games nor particularly innovative or interesting are touted as the 'next greatest thing ever'. People would laugh if Toyota or Ford advertised their newest car models by focusing on how the steering wheel or air conditioning are both options you can get, but apparently the 'Halo casual' gamer is too dense (or ignorant) to do the same.
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Predict the Daily Update Thread.
« on: September 23, 2007, 07:06:47 PM »
Prediction for 9/24/2007: Snake-related update.
Specific: Stage update.
More specific: not going there
Specific: Stage update.
More specific: not going there
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General Gaming / RE: Yeah, Halo 3's been announced.
« on: September 22, 2007, 07:47:28 PM »
I thought the whole point of Dirk's post was that comparing Star Wars to Halo was an insult to Star Wars. Which would bring you two in line in terms of opinion.
Also, Halo would have been much better as a Macintosh RTS (like was originally planned).
Also, Halo would have been much better as a Macintosh RTS (like was originally planned).
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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Konami's Silent Hill 3 for GameCube?
« on: September 22, 2007, 04:37:48 PM »
ThePerm owes me the 1.3 seconds I actually thought SSBB was in jeopardy before noticing the post dates.
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NWR Forums Discord / RE: Guess the Previous Poster
« on: September 22, 2007, 04:34:19 PM »
Well, looks like Mashiro's back.
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NWR Forums Discord / RE: We have been used :(
« on: September 22, 2007, 01:03:20 AM »Quote
I like keeping up with this Nintendo community. It's got a great mix of posters that have all different viewpoints and it always makes for a good time.
I obviously hate Nintendo and consider Jack Thompson my personal hero, that's why I keep on posting here everyday. Oh wait...
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hey like werent some of you guys refugees from other forums a few years back?
I have the feeling a bunch of us started on the Talkback threads. I know that's how I got involved... the community was just too interesting.
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