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Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« on: September 30, 2005, 08:39:03 PM »
So:

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"Outstanding Achievement in Technology and Advanced New Media for pioneering the 3D polygonal-based gaming experience."

"When the concept for PlayStation was in its infancy in the early 1990s, we had a dream to elevate the quality of computer graphics from a 2D-based environment to a rich, realistic 3D experience. At the same time, we intended to bring in a new form of entertainment through the living room in a manner that would allow people all over the world to enjoy the pleasures of interactive entertainment,"


Yes. Because they SO deserved it for making that game that essentially MADE 3D gaming: Mario 64.

Good lord this feels so dirty. I guess it proves stealing does pay!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/30/news_6134787.html  

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2005, 08:47:31 PM »
Wow.  

It's all politics, anyways.  
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2005, 09:21:20 PM »
So is there a particular game that this was won for, or the console as a whole? As the only really early 3D Playstation game that comes to mind is Blasto *shudder*.
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2005, 09:25:41 PM »
FMV movies = Innovative 3D gaming.  Didn't you know?

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2005, 01:31:40 AM »
Hell...Shigsy deserves that prizes a tenfold more on his own then the whole Sony company combined... Oh well, American award prizes are always rigged.
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2005, 04:26:52 AM »
Not always. Often times prue ignorance is enough to award the wrong candidate.
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2005, 05:12:54 AM »
Thats just bloody insulting. Beyond ignorance. Mind numbing.
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2005, 05:47:09 AM »
Isn't it obvious, this is America...A.K.A. Bush world, where evolution doesn't happen, science is heresy and intelligence is synonomous with weakness.  

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2005, 06:08:17 AM »
Sony won the Emmy for 3D gaming, Microsoft won the Emmy for online gaming...

Damn, Ninty just can't catch a break.  Oh well, no surprises there.

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2005, 06:22:37 AM »
I hear they wanted to give Spike TV the "Best Gaming Awards Show" Emmy.

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2005, 06:41:45 AM »
I hear that the emmys suck and nobody really cares who wins them.

"Not always. Often times prue ignorance is enough to award the wrong candidate."

Which is why an awards show that is focused on television programs decided to give an award for "pioneering the polygonal 3D gaming experience"? Out of all the companies, and all of the things videogames can be recognised for, why did they go for that particular award category and that particular company?

Bribe. Bribe. Bribe. Bribe. Bribe. Bribe.
 
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2005, 08:13:12 AM »
This isn't the TV Academy, it's the science and tech Academy. They just call their awards the same thing.

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RE:Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2005, 08:27:05 AM »
.....oh. Okay then.

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2005, 08:54:46 AM »
It's really so absurd. Let's review:

1. Who made the first critical and fan raved polygonal 3D game? Nintendo.
2. Who made the first 3D centric systems? Nintendo.
3. Who made the first 3D centric controller? Nintendo.
4. Who introduced the modern analog stick just for 3D? Nintendo.
5. Who proved 2D genres would work in 3D? Nintendo.

So what exactly did Sony do, besides sell more systems?

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2005, 09:08:40 AM »
"Sony's chief rival, Microsoft, received an Emmy earlier this month for its Xbox Live online gaming service in the category of Outstanding Achievement in Technology and Advanced New Media."

What! Nintendo nes hade online game, sega genesis had online line game, n64dd had online, dreamcast had the first well working and first to come to us online game, and sonic 3d and start fox were the first 3d game made by nintendo and sega. sony and ms need to burn in hell!
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2005, 09:19:34 AM »
sonic 3d wasnt 3d thu
Sonic Jam was

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2005, 01:22:19 PM »
The very first 3D game was actually....
I, Robot, released in 1983.  
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RE:Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2005, 05:27:47 PM »
That game has nothing to do with Will Smith, unlike the totally unrelated movie which I thought WAS related because I learned of both of them at the same time. Good movie though.

And Sonic 3D blast WAS 3D because you could move flat on 2 dimensions and jump.
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2005, 07:02:14 PM »
Actually, if you want to go back, the Intellivision and the Atari were online via a company which later became known as American Online.
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2005, 08:02:34 PM »
I pick ignorance. It's the same people who picked Jethro Tull over Metallica (or even Jane's Addiction) for Best Heavy Metal Album in 1987.

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RE:Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2005, 08:25:35 AM »
They are just awarding microsoft with the online because they built a system which was widely accepted and popular. Where as all the other online systems before wern't all that well regarded. Its not a supprise tho when the consol lost 4billion$. As for sony being pioneer in 3d gamming thats bull. Nothing that came out on playstation can be called anything but jaggies. Even dukenukem had better 3d then sonys playstation.  

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2005, 08:32:57 AM »
To make it worse, this is from a GameSpot ARTICLE, totally their comment:

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One of the major reasons for the [GBA's] success is its role as a reservation for classic 2D gameplay--the kind of simple, two-to-four-button platforming fun that went out the door when the Dual Shock came in.


URGH. NO! It went out when the N64 CAME IN.

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RE:Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2005, 05:58:43 PM »
Oh man, oh man, the conspiracy continues. After some goggling I found some interesting results. Check it out.

First in 2004:

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The Emmy for Outstanding Achievement in Advanced Media Technology for the Creation of Video Games was presented to:Jetix Cards Live! Enhanced TV


Seriously, WTF? I read and re-read, re-re-read to make sure they didn't mean something else. But sure enough it says video games and nothing else. Moving on to today:

"The awardees for Video Gaming and Technology are:

• Development and Impact in 8-Bit Consoles - Atari 2600
 (Bolding mine. I'll let your imagination take over.)
• Development and Impact in Polygon Consoles - Sony (PS1)
• Development of Multiplayer Console Technology - Microsoft (XBOX Live)"

Some interesting quotes:

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“Gaming and its particular needs have been a significant source of new technology in the areas of video- and television-centric activities. It comes as quite natural that this work should be recognized in the same way we’ve recognized the achievements in broadcast technology,”Seth Haberman, Chair of the Video Gaming and Technology awards panel said.


Quick comment: Perhaps they realized this when ratings were lower than usual, citing that more people are playing videogames as opposed to watching reality tv ad-nausem? Maybe they thought to give some recognition to a past time that's affecting their bottom line? Just a guess...

And for the coup de grace (Or death blow to non-french speaking people)

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“In addition to Microsoft’s considerable achievements, I feel particularly proud that the committee was able to reach into the past and award an Emmy for the long overdue achievements of Sony and Atari.”


Source for this crap

Again, I'll let your imagination take over. Now if I can play devil's advocate for one second...
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Remember kids, without Atari, there would be no industry for Nintendo to save. Gaming would probably still be played on bulky mainframe computers. Nolan Bushnell went on a limb on this one (As well as some 'selective' borrowing but that story's been told...).

Also, Nintendo seemed to be quite content in staying with its family friendly image. It wasn't acknowledging that its gamers from the 8-bit days were just a little older, albeit not a little wiser. Sega pounced on this (See Mortal Kombat I:Blood code). Sony pushed this foward with polygon boobies (See Battle Arena Toshinden, Tomb Raider *shudder*) coupled with a sense of cool that Nintendo [stilll] hasn't mastered to this day. Oh yeah, I guess Nintendo telling Sony to get bent when it came to sharing some of the profits back when the PSX was an add-on didn't help either. That and teaming with Philips, a foreign company which left the nation of Japan in deep shock. Oh how low did Nintendo go...

But hey, Mario's hotel and the two Zelda titles made it all worth it, right?  

How about scaring away 3rd parties with sticking with the expensive cartridge format? And they had to retain some sort of quality? Perish the thought! Yamauchi didn't help much when he basically gave Squaresoft to Sony. But who knew FFVII, and Squaresoft in general would blow up to the level it did, right?

On the flip side, Sony invited anyone and everyone to their system with [later to-be easily copied] their disc format. Quality? Hey, that's an option. More games, more people with less than distinguishing taste. As long it was 3d (Symphony of the Night notwithstanding.), who cared?
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Though I gotta admit, MS did deserve its award for Xbox live. Its a fun experience, and not so laissez-faire(basically means lazy, letting it be) as Sony's model.

If it really bothers PGC'ers that much, why not drop a line to the people who organized this schindig? They have their e-mail address and phone numbers (with extensions, how nice...) at the bottom of the link I provided. Maybe the big N will get some props if the Rev controller takes off and makes regular controllers obsolete in the future.
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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2005, 06:08:35 PM »
It's like they found a way to award everyone BUT Nintendo!?

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RE: Sony Receives Award for Pioneering 3D Gaming
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2005, 08:48:39 PM »
Artimus: 2d held out longer on the Playstation and since they are talking about the death of 2d the DualAnalog (what was it called exactly? The predecessor to the DualShock) was the turning point. Just because the N64 lacked 2d games doesn't mean they weren't present on other platforms.