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Originally posted by: Mashiro
But it's all hypothetical, big deal.
Hypothetically I could go out and kill 100 people, hypothetically I could never do an act of violence in my life, blah blah.
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Originally posted by: darkheart
I just want facts. I see no links to research studies here that go with any of these numbers being spewed and IF you decide to give me research studies IT HAS TO BE from a REAL study, none of those college study reports.
I had several paragraphs I was writing about the issues stated on the previous page but erased it due to it being risque on breaking forum policies. I do not want to discuss taboo subjects.
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Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Originally posted by: jasonditz
Anyhow, the philosophy from which such consequences would follow is the philosophy of Leo Tolstoy.
Why didn't you mention that in the first place?It seemed you were condoning radical violence at first, which would have been really out there. But now that you mention Tolstoy, your arguments make much more sense, as you're not condoning any violence or threat of violence. I still don't get the 99% theory, though. I've never heard of that before...
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Originally posted by: thatguy
I think you sharply misunderstand Tolstoy and the political, social, and religious environment of which he lived.
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
Seriously dude, regardless of your thoughts on PETA, you seriously need to consider seeking out help. Like, real, professional help. If you really think that 99+% of people will resort to violence to force their point of view on other people and you have such a deep hatred for human kind, you've seriously got some issues.
Look, I hear ya man... I hate the human race too... but there's the healthy, rational "I hate everyone because I work in customer service and I see how stupid everyone is" kinda hating everyone, then there's your totally not rational thoughts...
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Originally posted by: Sir_StabbalotQuote
Originally posted by: jasonditz
You may well be in that less than 1%... who knows. But yes, virtually everyone around you will use violence against you (or suppose someone else using violence against you) in some case if you disagree with them or refuse to obey them.
Where did you pick up this theory? Really, I would like to know, as this is just so alien to me. This is the first time I've heard of it, and it just seems odd. I've been in lots of arguments and debates, but I've never had anyone pull out a baseball bat and beat me to a pulp.
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
Also wouldn't 99%+ mean 100%?
Technically no, it could be 99.5%, for example.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
They regards themselves as above the rest of us. It's not about animal rights it's about PETA being in charge. It's the meglomaniac that wants to make the world a better place by being supreme dictator.
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
If that statistic were true we would all already be dead and the world we be devoid of human life as we would have killed each other by now.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Using violence to force others to agree with one's point of view hardly seems extremist. As I said before... 99%+ of people are willing to do that."
I guess I make up that less than 1%. I had no idea that virtually everyone around me will use violence against me if I have a different opinion than them.
That statment just sounds outright INSANE. At worst people might THINK about using violence to force others to agree with them. Sometimes when someone disagrees with you it's not irregular to think to yourself "jerk, I oughta punch him in the face" but few people actually go beyond that.
Though even if that was the case I still wouldn't tolerate it. I really don't care what the majority thinks. If it logically seems wrong to me then I think it's wrong even if the rest of the world disagrees with me.
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
Now, to be fair, I doubt anyone on this board decided that they hate PETA because of the flash application, you linking to it or because of your post. I bet most of us already know that PETA isn't a very respectable group of people. So, when you come here and post something about PETA, don't be surprised if people reply negatively about it.
I mean, if you came on here and posted a flash game made by Islamic terrorists where the goal was to fly planes into buildings and kill infidel Americans, people would probably get worked up over that one as well. It's not that we *hate* the flash game or your post, it is that PETA has proven, multiple times, through their actions, that they, as a group, are one of the worst "rights" groups out there.
