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Nintendo 3DS XL Review
« on: August 14, 2012, 12:22:17 AM »

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http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/31341

I’ve already written—eloquently—about my minor addiction to hardware iterations. I can’t turn a good form factor down, which is why I was already wringing my hands over the coming 3DS XL. Site director Neal Ronaghan had the unit shipped to my house, knowing he’d be in town for its arrival, and we planned on doing some epic video comparisons and whatnot. That didn’t really pan out, but you can expect a detailed photo-essay by yours truly alongside this review. Part of the reason the video thing didn’t really come together is that there honestly wasn’t much to do. The unit isn’t really exciting on its own—it’s exciting when compared to its forebearer, which seems like a hollow shell of a system now. The 3DS XL is what I was hoping the 3DS would be from the get-go. We went through the same transition between the DS Phat and the DS Lite. If you haven’t been convinced to toss your old 3DS in favor of this newer, sexier, bigger version, do read on; perhaps I can sway you.

The 3DS XL is bigger, sleeker, and more practical than what I’ll refer to as the 3DS Taco. The first thing you notice upon sliding open the unit's surprisingly snug box—which is smaller than the 3DS Taco’s box—is that the XL is the size of a netbook. It is ridiculously large. The upper screen is roughly the size of the PlayStation Vita’s screen. The box says the XL’s screens are 90 percent bigger than the Taco’s, and I believe it. Once you play Kid Icarus: Uprising on the 3DS XL, you will have a difficult time going back (now I just need the CCP 2.0). Best of all, it still fits in most of my pants’ pockets—though it is quite weighty.

While the outer clamshell of the XL is not wholly matte-ified, the outer surface of the joint is, and the interior of the system is. This makes me extremely happy, as I despise fingerprint smudges to my core. The XL’s face buttons feel similar, overall, to the Taco’s, but I note that the D-pad doesn’t feel as loose. The shoulder buttons are a bit larger, with rounded outer edges. Hopefully, they’re sturdier than the Taco’s shoulder buttons, which in my case warranted a repair. The Circle Pad has changed subtly; the pad itself is a bit thicker and deeper, better fitting the contours of my thumb. It’s notably more resistant, too, which is either a consequence of the unit being so new or an actual “feature,” one I’ll have to get used to. I’m not thrilled about the Start, Select, and Home buttons—they’re actual buttons now, sure, but they don’t have much click to them. They feel like the Taco’s menu buttons without the strip across all three.

One potential problem is that the lower screen’s raised frame is at the same height as the Circle Pad, and right edge of the Circle Pad rests below the left edge of the top screen. Whether this will cause grease stains on the screen or not remains to be seen. With the matte finish, however, I imagine we won’t see many instances of perpetual vertical grease lines on the top screen anytime soon. The 3D slider is no longer loosely affixed to the system, and has a smooth slide upwards. You actually have to click it to or from the “off” position, which means you won’t accidentally turn the 3D on when the system is in your pocket. The volume and Wi-Fi sliders are also more robust. If you like lanyards, the 3DS XL has lanyard slots on both front corners. Overall, this system is just better designed than its ancestor.

There are two things that really bug me, though. First, the stylus; I don’t care that its position has been moved (it now slots into the right side of the unit), but I’m more concerned with its cheapness. Unlike the silver, extendable stylus that came with the Taco, this one is basically a DS Lite stylus, but bigger (and retains the 3DS stylus’ nib). The construction of the stylus wouldn’t bother me had I not just gotten used to a far superior version on the 3DS Taco. The other, more pressing issue is the SD card door. Every time I open it up, I feel like it’s going to snap right off. The Taco’s SD door had a very flexible piece of plastic as a “joint,” but this one is less resistant to bending, which worries me. The SD card itself now sits considerably deeper in the system, so I hope you have fingernails.

The system transfer was a cinch. You can only do five system transfers, and each one has to be at least seven days apart, which is interesting. You’ll lose ALL the data on the old 3DS, which goes back to its factory default. Most of the data stored on your Taco’s SD card will be moved to system memory before the transfer. Paradoxically, the only thing that did NOT move over was my extra content on Swapnote, so I have to keep my 2GB card until I figure out how to move it over. Actually, while Swapnote and Nintendo Zone now come pre-loaded on the 3DS XL, Swapnote is actually deleted during the transfer and your old system’s “version” comes over on the SD card. It’s very strange. If I take my 2GB card out, Swapnote disappears from the XL’s menu. However, if you format the 4GB card that comes inserted in the 3DS XL, then just move everything from the 2GB card over to it via PC, that solves the problem. Thanks to everyone on Twitter who helped me figure that one out!

The system transfer even retained my folder system, which is pretty awesome.

Going into this adventure, I was worried that the XL’s screen—which is same resolution as the Taco’s screen—would make some games look bad when stretched out to fit a larger area. I’m happy to report that’s not really the case at all. Most 3DS titles actually look better, like Kid Icarus: Uprising and Super Mario 3D Land. Any 3DS or Virtual Console games you’ve brought over look perfectly fine, too. Even DSiWare games are fine—though I always play them in their native resolution, as the Flying Spaghetti Monster intended. The only things that look notably worse on the XL are Swapnote, which does not stretch well, and any photos you take with the camera, for the same reason. Interestingly, I find the 3D effect enhanced slightly on the XL. When I cranked the slider all the way up on Revelations and boosted its power in-game, I felt like my eyes were on fire, whereas I never got that feeling on the Taco. But with larger screens comes a noticeably smaller sweet spot, which is understandable.

I love this thing, and I wholly recommend it to anyone with even half a mind to replace their 3DS Taco or buy a 3DS for the first time. It’s tough to see the Taco as anything more than a beta product once you’ve wrapped your hands around the sizable girth of the XL. Virtually every aspect of its design is streets ahead of its predecessor. Thumbs up!

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 01:15:03 AM »
I can't wait to try one out. I'm especially interested in how the d-pad feels. For me right now, the d-pad is practically useless on the 3DS, except for when its used as a toggle (or for menu navigation). I can get by if I don't have to use the L button at all, but otherwise, I haven't figured out how to hold the system properly to use it.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 05:48:50 AM »
I guess NWR has officially coined that term. As such, the original 3DS system must henceforth be referred to as the Taco. Spread the word, everyone.  ;)

In all seriousness, for all the advantages the XL may have, it won't fit in my pocket. Might seem like a weird thing to be hung up on, but that's just how I carry my portable systems - I don't always have a rucksack and even if I do, it's just more convenient to take them out of my pocket. So I'll pass on upgrading.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 06:13:23 AM »
I refuse to call my darling 3DS a Taco!

And yeah, it's cool that people are excited for the XL, but I personally prefer portability like you Killer_Man_Jaro.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 09:13:11 AM »
Do I have to transfer everything in the SD card using my PC before I use the system tranfer or after? Do I get to keep everything, including my Theatrhythm add-ons?

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 11:00:45 AM »
Love the MiB reference ;D


This review along with all the positive impressions I've read around the web has sold me on the XL.  The only thing holding me back is the launch colors which I am not enamored with.  I have big pockets in my work clothes (which is pretty much where I spend the majority of my time out the house) so portability should stay relatively the same.


I'll wait until next year when they release better colors.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 12:37:02 PM »
So the 3DS is like CLR and the 3DS XL is like CLRS

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 02:07:06 PM »
I am confused by these two statements, could you please clarify;

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"One potential problem is that the lower screen’s raised frame is at the same height as the Circle Pad, and right edge of the Circle Pad rests below the left edge of the top screen. Whether this will cause grease stains on the screen or not remains to be seen."

"With the matte finish, however, I imagine we won’t see many instances of perpetual vertical grease lines on the top screen anytime soon."

It is my understanding that the top screen has a couple or more little "nubs" that prevent the top and bottom from contacting when the unit is closed. Is this not the case?

Also I thought it was the fact that the top screen touched the bezel of the bottom screen that caused the vertical lines, and the fact that the bezel was glossy didn't really matter. So if the bezel is matte now and they still touch I would imagine the lines would still show up.

This is my biggest complaint with the original 3DS. If the problem still persists with the XL I will be highly disappointed.

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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 02:36:40 PM »
So when you do the system transfer.  Do you leave your old SD card in your old system, then, take that SD card out and put it in your new system? Or, does it transfer all your infomation from your old SD card onto the new SD card in the new system?
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 04:55:18 PM »
Yes, you keep the SD card in the old 3DS. It uploads the DSiWare games to the system memory, then transfers all that to the new system memory. Meanwhile, all the "extra data" from Swapnote and Pokedex 3D stay on the SD card. THAT'S the stuff you have to move via PC.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 05:01:46 PM »
When the 3DS XL is all one color (black) then I will be more moitivated to get one, but until then I will stick with my black DSi.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2012, 04:00:35 AM »
Ok, so it sounds like it only transfers information on the system memory like DSi games. Then you either use your old SD card in the new system after the transfer. Or copy all the files on a computer to the new SD card
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2012, 12:05:51 PM »
Just replace "fetch" with "taco" ...


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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2012, 12:31:51 PM »
Just replace "fetch" with "taco" ...

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2012, 02:36:33 AM »
I just got mine.  I'm really happy with it. Wanted to make a few corrections that I didn't see it the reviews and such. If what I say was mentioned, my apologies ahead of time


First, the SD card slot is on the right side with the stylis slot, opposite side than taco 3DS, and I didn't think the slot door was all that stiff as long as you pulled it out the whole way


Second, the matte finish I thought was gonna be like the DSi, which I hated, but it's not. To me it seemed more like a semigloss finish.


Third the start, home, & select buttons kinda suck ornate time to get used to. They seem like hinge buttons that register better if you press on the bottom part near the edge rather than the middle of the button
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2012, 10:36:54 AM »
I really want this thing but now I have to wait for an American Pikachu version. Maybe by the time that one is released orange or something else bright will be announced.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2012, 07:30:43 PM »
I'm pretty sure I did the right thing by uploading my data to my computer and then downloading it onto my new SD card, but it still seems like I lost all my pokedex data and E Shop games. Do I just redownload them online and all the data I had will be there?


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Same with my NSMB2 data, I will download it again, but will I have to start all over? Cause all my pokemon are gone, thought for sure that data carry over. Crap I hate doing these things by myself!
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2012, 09:33:06 PM »
Okay, same thing happened to me at first.

FORMAT the new card. Because it was sitting in the system was you turned it on, it'll have **** on it that's not supposed to be there. So format the new card. Then copy/paste all the info from the old card to it. Then plug the new card into your XL and it should all be there. Then you can format the old card.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2012, 10:05:24 PM »
Okay, same thing happened to me at first.

FORMAT the new card. Because it was sitting in the system was you turned it on, it'll have **** on it that's not supposed to be there. So format the new card. Then copy/paste all the info from the old card to it. Then plug the new card into your XL and it should all be there. Then you can format the old card.

Format the card ay? What does that actually mean? Now before I go looking it up, I already did the system transfer from the old 3DS, I think it said it would delete all the data from the old ds card. If thats the case I am already done for.

And thank you!

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doing it now!


Man! Still not there. I really don't know where I screwed up. I copied my data from the old SD card, then proceeded with the transfer. Now I formatted the new SD card and copied the data to it, still nothing. I just picked FAT when I did the formatting, should it have been something else?


My voice recordings are still there so maybe it did work and Pokedex data just doesn't carry over. I am redownloading NSMB2 to see if my save data is still there. If not I give up, wasn't that big a deal anyway. Still though thanks with the help.
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2012, 04:42:15 AM »
Yeah, of course. Not sure what happened--when I inserted my SD card into my SD card reader and plugged it into the computer, I just right-clicked on it and selected "format." That basically deletes everything off the card and resets it to factory settings. It takes FOREVER on a 4GB card, so it was a hassle, but whatever. And the only things that I would've lost were my Swapnote stationary and Pokedex information.

Neither is a huge loss. But I'm sorry it didn't work for you--I wonder what we did differently?
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2012, 09:59:09 AM »
Oh well actually it probably did work. For some reason my NSMB2 and pokedex data didn't carry over but all my voice recordings did on the 3DS sound. So I think it did work! Either way when the Ppkedex pro comes out I'm just buying that anyway, and al I did was complete the first world in Mario.

I suppose the real test would be if I download my. Embassador games and see if they have there saves. Not that I really care.
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