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Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up
« on: September 23, 2006, 03:10:18 PM »
I'm a bit late with this because I seem to have caught Ty's cold. But enough of that. Let's get straight to it. Sorry Vudu. This won't be straight up mafia.

The Rules

Gameplay

For any newcomers, this is the way we're playing the game. In the game of Mafia, there are basically two sides. Innocents known as townies and Bad guys known as Mafia. The game is played over a course of days. Each day, everybody can vote for one person to be eliminated from the game. The person with the highest amount of votes is the one eliminated. The townies are trying to vote out the mafia while the mafia is trying to vote out the townies. This is not as easy as it sounds. The mafia have an advantage by knowing who all their members are, while the townies don't know who else is innocent besides themselves. The mafia also has another advantage by the fact that they can make a hit every night. The next day, the person who was voted out is killed in a little story and their role revealed. The person who the mafia hit is also killed and their role mentioned in the story as well.

Vote Rules

To vote, simply type in bold: VOTE (NAME) You may post anything else you want during the day or with that message. You can only vote for one person. If you wish to change your vote, make sure to erase the old vote. Only votes that are in bold will be counted. If you have two votes, neither will count.

You must vote at least once every two days. Failure to vote will result in death. If you have a reason for not voting in time, PM me before the third day of abscence to let me know.

Ties

If there is a tie at the deadline, there is a simple procedure for solving it. Anyone who has not voted that day has 10 minutes after the dead line to vote for one of the people tied up. If after 10 minutes, there is still a tie, anyone who didn't vote that day will be killed instead. So if there were 4 people who didn't vote, I'd randomly select one to die instead. Maybe 2 if I'm cranky. But what if everyone voted and there was still a tie. Then, there will be the 10 minute delay to change one's vote for someone else. If after the 10 minutes, there is still a tie, then those who are tied will be exempt and I will randomly select someone else to die. Should have saved yourself.

To Win

For the townies to win, every mafia member must be killed and only innocent townies remain.

For the mafia to win, they only have to get to the point where it is equal townies and mafia. Example, 3 townies left and 3 mafia members left. At that point, it is assumed the mafia take over.

Note: there are also different roles with a different win condition. Example, Suicide Bomber's win is to kill everyone. Also, if there are 3 mafia but 2 townies and the suicide bomber, the game does not end as the bomber could wipe out the mafia's advantage. The reverse is true also. If all mafia are voted out but the bomber is still alive, townies have not won yet as the bomber may have a chance to kill them all.

For all roles that don't belong in one of the two groups of mafia or townie, they are considered a faction of their own and will have a different win condition listed.

The Roles

Mafia

In this game of mafia, we are starting out with only one mafia. However, if I feel a substantial amount of people have joined, I will add a second mafia. The second mafia will have the same roles as this one.

The Godfather

This is the head of the mafia. He is the one who ultimately decides who gets whacked each night. On the mafia's action night, he will send me the name of the person he chooses to have killed.

The Mafia Spy

Another mafia member. He has the ability to investigate any person to see what their role is. On the mafia's action night, he sends me the name of the person he wants investigated and I send him their role.

The Mafia Recruiter

A third mafia member. He has the ability to recruit people to join the mafia. However, his ability is limited. On the mafia's action night, he will send me the name of the person he wishes to have join the mafia. He will also choose a number between 1 and 6. Then, I will roll a dice. If the number matches, it's a succesful recruitment. If not, the recruitment fails. Also, the person who is being recruited does not know any of this unless the recruitment is succesful. They will then be sent a PM, letting them know they are now mafia.

The Mafia Doctor

Our fourth mafia member. The doctor has the ability to protect any one he chooses, except himself. There is one catch, however. The doctor can not use his ability until the townie doctor is killed. As long as the townie doctor is alive, the mafia doctor can not forge his credentials and start practicing medicine. Once he has his ability, each night, he will send me the name of the person he is protecting.

The Mafia Propagandist

A new role for the mafia. The propagandist has two abilites. Before the game begins, he will give me the name of one person he wants corrupted. This person can be anyone from the bomber to the cop to a rival mafia member if we add another mafia. This corrupted person effectively becomes another mafia member, swayed by propaganda. The propagandist can also tell the corrupted townie how to vote. The other ability the propagandist has is being able to cancel one person's vote each night. The propagandist will send me a PM of the person who's vote he wants cancelled.

The Corrupted Townie

Our final mafia member. The corrupted townie could be anyone. What's worse is that no one can know he's corrupted. If he is investigted, he will only register as a normal townie or any other role he might have. The corrupted townie only listens to the Propagandist, however and votes according to his wishes. If the propagandist is killed, the corrupted townie has a choice. Stay with the mafia or join the townies again. If he joins the townies, this action will be revealed in the story the next day. He is free to reveal anything he may know. If he stays with the mafia, he will then learn who all the mafia consists of if he doesn't know yet and he is free to vote how he wants, no longer controlled by the propagandist.

Final notes for Mafia Members

New Godfathers

The mafia has the ability to choose a new godfather any day.

To do so, all members must PM me saying they want a new godfather. They must also give me the name of the person they want to see as the new godfather. The corrupted townie can not vote, however anyone succesfully recruited can. Also the corrupted townie does not need to send a PM asking for a new godfather.

The new godfather will be the person with the most votes and the old godfather will be killed. If there is a tie, 2-2, then no one becomes godfather but the old godfather will still be killed. This means the mafia must solve their differences and elect a new godfather fast, otherwise they will make no kills.

Also, when making a succesful coup, I will only PM the new godfather, informing him of his extra role. I will not give the voting record nor will I PM the other mafia members letting them know who is the new godfather. That is the new godfather's responsibility. This means in a tie, I will not PM anyone. You will have to figure that out yourselves and revote.

The Mole.

Why would you vote your godfather? He might be the mole.

The mole is another new role. At the end of Day 2, I will randomly select one mafia member to become the mole except for the corrupted townie. The mole is a member of the mafia, working against the mafia. How does it work?

The mole will PM with a message. This message will contain the name of a mafia member and their role. It's the mole's choice who. The mole will also give me the name of the person he would like to send this information too. Then, I will PM that person with a package. The package will be the info the mole gave me. The mafia member's name and role. The person who recieves the package will only know it was given to him be the mole's role, i.e. Godfather, Spy, Doctor, etc.

This is significant because if that person ends up being recruited, he will know who the mole is. The mole must also be careful not to hit the townie idiot. The townie idiot will post the entire contents of the package including the mole's role.


The Townies

The Doctor

The doctor can protect anyone he wants, except himself. Before the day begins, he can PM me with a name if he wants or he can wait until the evening and PM me. Why wait? Well, if the doctor wants, he can save the person with the most votes. Then the person with the next amount of votes will be killed instead. If the doctor is corrupted, he will do the bidding of the propagandist and use his role as the propagandist wants. If he is recruited, he is free to protect who he wants. Of course, he will be working for the mafia in these cases. Also, if he is recruited or corrupted, the mafia doctor may begin practicing medicine. Neither doctor can protect the other.

The Cop

The cop is working for the townies and may investigate one person each night. He can see all roles except for the corrupted townie or the mole. And, like usual, the Godfather will show up as a townie. If the cop is corrupted, he'll do as the propagandist wants. If he's recruited, he uses his power for the mafia.

The Townie Idiot

The townie idiot is a drunk who can't keep anything to himself. Any information he is given will be revealed, except for his role, strangely enough. The townie idiot is playing for the townies but he it can be hard tell. What does this mean? If the townie idiot is corrupted, he will tell eveyone he's corrupted and who corrupted him. If he's recruited, he becomes the mafia idiot and starts naming names. Consider him a whammy.

The Drifter

I don't think I have ever seen this role used once. So, let's give it one more shot. The drifter has the ability to take over anyone's role. He just PM's me the name of the person he wants to become. That person is killed. Their role, whatever it may be, becomes the drifter's. Here's some added value to the role. If he's corrupted, he could take over the godfather role. Then the godfather would be in the hands of the propagandist. However, taking over a mafia role means he would stay mafia if the propagandist was killed. If he's recruited, he can take over anyone's role in the mafia if he wants. However, if uses his role and gets a different role outside of the mafia after being recruited, he still stay mafia.

The Magician

The magician is a new role. The magician can change the roles of anyone every night. How does that work? Each night, the magician PM's me the names of two people. I then will PM those people and inform them of their new role. There are some things to keep in mind. The magician never knows if the action was a success. No one else knows who has switched roles except for the librarian. Also, certain roles can not be switched. A mafia member can not switch roles with a townie. However, if two mafia members were selected, they could switch roles because they are in the same mafia. The mole role will never be switched. The corrupt townie could be switched. That spells trouble for the propagandist. The librarian role can not be switched. Yes, the magician can also use his name for switching roles and give his role to someone else.

The Librarian

Knowlegde is power. The librarian must figure out how to use that power correctly. The librarian will learn a ratio of people's roles. Say 30 people are playing, the librarian can the learn the roles of about 7 others. How does this work? Well, the librarian can ask to learn the roles for whoever he choses up to a limit, in this example, up to 7 people. The librarian can ask for this information before the game begins or any time thereafter. Nor does the librarian have to ask for all 7 choices right away. The librarian could chose to wait and learn about a person anytime they wished. Moreover, anyone the librarian asks about, that person's role will always be revealed. So, if someone is recruited or corrupted, the librarian will know this. If their role is switched the librarian will learn the new role but not who got the switched role unless that person is also on the librarian's list. The librarian can also learn who the mole is if that person is on the librarian's list. Obviously then, the librarian would be desired by the mafia. However, if the librarian is blabbermouth or unable to use this knowledge well, the librarian may soon be taking a dirtnap. Of course, corrupted, the librarian would do the propagandist's bidding. Recruited, the librarian aids the mafia.

The Bounty Hunter

The bounty hunter is out to rid the world of the mafia. He'll do it both the honest way (voting with everyone) and his own way (killing them himself). Yes, the bounty hunter fills the vigilante role. Each night, he can PM me the name of a person he wants killed. The catch is the person must be a mafia member. If he kills an innocent, he dies along with the innocent. If the bounty hunter is corrupted, he'll kill whoever the propagandist wants. But, the bounty hunter can not be recruited. He would kill himself and the recruiter before will joining a mafia. Brainwashing is different.

Non-Townie Roles

The Suicide Bomber

Yes, the bomber is back. New and improved. The bombeer may at any time, choose 3 people to blow up and die with him. If he is voted out, everyone who voted for him will be blown up. If a mafia hits him, two mafia members die: The godfather and another mafia member of the godfather's choosing. More than that, every two days that the suicide bomber lives, he plants explosives on someone else. Only I and the bomber know who else would be a walking time bomb. The librarian can know if that person is one on their list. The bomber has no rational except to see everyone die. As for the walking time bomb, if they are voted out, the suicide bomber can choose two people who voted for the time bomb to be killed with the time bomb. If corrupted, the bomber doesn't neccassarily do the propagandist's bidding. Because he is irrational, he still shows independence and does what he wants. If recruited, the bomber still does as he wants. If he wants to blow up a part of this mafia, he can. Moreover, the bomber can not win a mafia victory. He can only win by the death of everyone.

The Killer

The killer works alone. He is out for himself and himself only. He can only win by being the last one standing. The killer has a small advantage. Because he is an expert at what he does, he is the only one who can safely kill a time bomb or the bomber and not die. He can a make a hit every night against anyone he chooses. If he is corrupted, he does the propagandist's bidding. If he is recruited, he may win with a mafia victory.


That should be all the roles for now. I'll wait to see how many sign-up before deciding if we need a second mafia or some extra roles. It will sort of be like F-Zero Gx. The more people we get, the more stuff we can unlock. The reason I mention F-Zero GX is because that is the theme of the game!

The Theme

Yes, this mafia game will revolve around F-Zero GX. It was for that reason I gave no names for the roles. You can choose any character you want from F-Zero GX as your persona in the game. Except for Mr. Zero, the announcer. That role will be mine as the narrator. What's that you don't know many F-Zero Characters. Well, Wikipedia has a couple pages of racers for you as well as a brief bio of them. So choose the one that appeals to you and run with it.

The pages are:

F-Zero GX Racers

F-Zero AX Racers

Also, if you're looking for more personality about the racers, you can go to Gamefaqs and under the F-Zero GX Faqs, there is one entitled Interview FAQ. This is interviews done of the reacers and will give you more insight into their personality.

Finally, although I did a bit of searching, I wasn't able to find any good pics for avatars. If someone else has an idea of where to get some or can make them, we can hand out avatars for this game.


That's all for now. I'll post a brief intro story in a bit. Around the time the roles are about to go out. Now all that's left is to get our players.

Also, if you have any questions PM me or ask them in this thread.            
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RE:Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2006, 03:21:24 PM »
Wow, that's a lot of typing. If you've played the game, skip the rules, except for ties. You may want to read up on that. Just get to to the roles. Understand, this game is about trust. Can you trust anyone? Or are they corrupted? Are they using you? Are they leaking important information? Will they betray you?

Edit: I think I'll also use this post to show who has signed up and as what character.

Wandering - James McCloud
Sir_Stabbalot - Mighty Gazelle
Crimm - Bio Rex
Stevey - Black Shadow
Ceric - PJ
TVMan - Micheal Chain
Vudu - Blood Falcon
Zach - Spade
Pale - Mr. EAD
Athrun Zala - Roger Buster
Shyguy - Pico
Blackfootsteps - The Skull
Smoke39 - Zoda
Decoyman - Deathborn
Deguello - Samurai Goroh
Dasmos - Dr. Robert Stewart
Shift Key - Jody Summer
18 Days - Mrs. Arrow
Bill - Lily Flyer
NuclearSpeed - Silver Neelson
Mystic Gohan - Princia
Infernal Monkey - Leon
Mario - Super Arrow
Garnee - Octoman
Couchmonkey - John Tanaka
MaryJane - Dr. Clash
MattVDB - Captain Falcon
Mantidor - Gomar & Shioh
ThePerm - Phoenix Lestrade
BigJim - Draq
Nyladrin - Beastman
Svevan - Jack Levin
Knowsnothing - Antonio Guster
Spak-Spang - Billy

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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2006, 04:15:45 PM »
So, does the currupted townie post his vote and then gets it counted as what the propagandist says, or does he have to wait to post a vote until he gets info from the propagandist?
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2006, 04:38:23 PM »
IN. In anticipation for my upcoming game, I'll be James McCloud.

Wow, lot's of roles.

First off, a 6 man mafia team (plus an extra man every 6 days or so, plus investigator, doctor, and vote-changer roles) is a very formidable force. I guess the mole, and other roles, could balance things out.

I'm mixed on mole characters. It resulted in some fun shenanigans in mafia II, but watching all the vampires getting picked off in Mafia IV because the mole leaked their names just wasn't fun. And let's not even bring up fool's gold.

The propagandist - how does he control someone else's voting? Can he kill the person he's controlling if that person doesn't do his bidding? ....hmm, well, I guess the godfather could.

The doctor - what if he gets recruited by the mafia? Wouldn't that make it impossible for the townies to vote out mafia?

The godfather - can he kill members of his own mafia?

Time bombs will likely lead to much insanity. But what happens if they're killed by the mafia? Or the vigilante?

That's all I can think of for now.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2006, 05:11:30 PM »
I'm in and I call Mighty Gazelle.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2006, 05:13:48 PM »
I wanna join as Bio Rex.

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2006, 05:46:39 PM »
in and will be Duffman aka Black Shadow
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2006, 06:44:30 PM »
In.  I'll choice a character a little later.  I have to think on this.

Edit:  It's either PJ, QQQ, Spade, Mr. Ead, Clinton, or Digi-boy.

Methinks I'm going to go with PJ because I like machines that can grip the course.
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RE:Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2006, 07:07:56 PM »
TVMan:

The corrupted townie idea came from the time I tried to give away my vote. Basically, the corrupted townie can vote for who he wants, but if the propagandist wants him to vote for someone else, he will PM the corrupted townie telling him who to vote for. If the corrupted townie isn't obeying the propagandist, he will die. Unless I mentioned before that he is able to resist the propagandist. I.e. Suicide bomber. Preferably, he would wait for orders first to hide his role a bit.

Wandering:

About the mole. I've tried to be very careful about how the information gets out. That's why the mole has to PM me with it and then I can filter it and make sure it doesn't get out of hand. I have been thinking about making an anti-mole. I'll have to do some thinking and see if I should add it. I know the mafia can seem a formidable force but I wanted each mafia member to be able to do something on the side in case any of them become the mole, they can then use their role to subvert the mafia a bit. Plus, there are limiters. The doctor can't act right away, for instance. Although the mafia starts strong, roles like the mole will hamper it a bit.

For your other questions

The propagandist, see TVMan's answer.

The Godfather- yes, he can kill members of his own mafia. That's the reason for the mafia being able to kill him. He could become the mole. Or the mole could get clever and have himself made godfather and then kill mafia members.

The Docter - I answered this in the description of the doctor's role under the townies section. Basically, they can't protect one another. I don't want what happened in Mafia 5 happening again.

Time bombs - Good point, I didn't outline all specifics on them. Basically, if a mafia member hit a time bomb, they would both die. The time bomb doesn't know that fact. (Unless the Bomber PM'd him. I left that option open.) Even if he does know, it still just a both die. But for the bounty hunter, I'm going to give him a 50/50 shot at surviving. He is killing an innocent, though one that could unwittingly kill other innocents. Plus, he doesn't have the expertise the killer has. So, I'll give him 50/50 odds at surviving.

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2006, 07:23:27 PM »
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I've tried to be very careful about how the information gets out. That's why the mole has to PM me with it and then I can filter it and make sure it doesn't get out of hand.

This could work... but human nature dictates that, if someone knows who all of the mafia members are, and wants all the mafia members dead, they will find alternate means of making sure that happens. Now, maybe that won't happen, because the mole doesn't really seem to have any motivation to betray his fellow mafia members beyond what you're already asking him to do. But then that begs the question, shouldn't he have a motivation? Is his victory depndant on the other mafia members dying? And if it is, see my point about human nature. And if it isn't, can he chose to not betray his teammates?

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The Docter - I answered this in the description of the doctor's role under the townies section. Basically, they can't protect one another. I don't want what happened in Mafia 5 happening again.

But, couldn't the doctor protect a mafia godfather from being voted out, for instance?
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2006, 07:38:00 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2006, 07:39:53 PM »
Yeah, the mole role could be tricky. I've got two methods to counter it. I might have to add those roles to limit it. But that's why I want to wait first and see how many people join up.

Interesting idea about the doctor protecting the godfather if the godfather is the mole. I'm going to say Yes, it is a legal move. The doctor is a big target already. He can thwart the mafia's hit and they need him dead to get their doctor going. I'd hate to make more of a target to the mafia but I say it's a fair move. I don't think the chances are that high that this would come to pass. Also, if we do end up adding a second mafia. The second mafia could always thwart this plan and kill the doctor for their gain. Plus, the doctor has two options. Protect someone from the days voting, or protect someone at night. Then the mafia has two options. If the doctor protects the godfather during the day, the mafia kills him in their secret vote at night. If the doctor protects during the night, they try to vote himout in the day's vote.
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2006, 07:42:33 PM »
Oh, what the Hell; I'm in.  I want to be a Bafomdad.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2006, 07:49:43 PM »
No, my point was, the mafia could recruit the doctor, and then have him protect any mafia member that the townies choose to vote out. Heck, I suppose the mafia doctor could do that as well.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2006, 08:08:28 PM »
I see what you're saying. Yes, the mafia doctor can do this also but that's why I made him latent for awhile. That's one of the reasons why there is a mole. A mole could let the townies know who the mafia doctors are and they could vote them out ending that protection. The doctors can not protect each other.

I'm leaving this as is for now. It's going to take some odds of happening. First, it's a shot in the dark if the propagandist gets the doctor. Then, it's up to the spy to find him, then the recruiter has some odds for him to join. If they get it to happen, I say let them reap the rewards. The townies can still defeat the mafia. It will just be a bit harder though. Plus, the mafia may choose to just kill the doctor and have their own get going instead.

If I do decide to change it, then I might go Pale's route and get the doctors some odds of success.
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2006, 08:17:52 PM »
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That's one of the reasons why there is a mole. A mole could let the townies know who the mafia doctors are and they could vote them out ending that protection. The doctors can not protect each other.

Ah, that makes sense. Though I am a little leery of the mole character, it does seem like he'll balance things out. I have no further objections at this time, your honor.
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2006, 08:22:32 PM »
One other rule: No Dupe Accounts!
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2006, 09:58:17 PM »
Of what relevance is the F-Zero character you choose?
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2006, 10:04:50 PM »
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The Docter - I answered this in the description of the doctor's role under the townies section. Basically, they can't protect one another. I don't want what happened in Mafia 5 happening again.
aww, but that was fun! To be fair, it was almost all TYP, I only saved 18 days once (sorry decoyman, the last two games I have played my actions resulted in your death Mafia VII I could have saved you instead of 18 days, and mafia IX I pounded you into a building, maybe we can be friends this time?)  

Oh, and Khush, I think you meant mafia VII

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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2006, 09:21:49 AM »
Stickied and I'm signing up.  Don't have time to pick a character yet, so either pick one for me or I'll pick one later.
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2006, 11:07:07 AM »
Pale should be Mr.Ead.  Because someone just gotta be.
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2006, 11:07:36 AM »
Smoke39:

Nothing special about the racer you choose. It just means you can have fun playing a character. The only thing special is the role you get and that is not dependant on characters.

Zach:

No, I meant Mafia 5 where there were two people who could protect anyone and they both protected each other. Crash and TYP. They won the game because no one could kill the other.

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Thanks for the help.  
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2006, 11:22:33 AM »
Just to make it official I'll go with PJ the Ex-Taxi cab driver.
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2006, 06:57:44 PM »
A'ight.. Mr. EAD it is.
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2006, 08:39:11 PM »
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I'm in ^__^

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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2006, 08:44:36 PM »
I will play, I really don't know the characters very well. Can some one suggest one that would suit me?

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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2006, 09:40:58 PM »
In and 'The Skull'
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2006, 10:35:35 PM »
I guess I'll play.  I'll go with Zoda.
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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2006, 07:43:57 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2006, 10:42:45 AM »
Behold, my awesome future avatar!



Now all we need is for Evan to join and play at Captain Falcon.  (Alternatively, wandering could change his role.)

EDIT:  I went ahead and created an awesome Captain Falcon avatar for whoever wants to be my nemesis.  
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« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2006, 10:46:21 AM »
Awesome. I really need to make avatars for everyone I think. Send Evan an invitation to play. Heck, send an invite to anyone you want to see join up.

Edit: By the way, I've been speaking with Decoyman and he says that he'll be able to make the avatars for me. I'll host them and send you the address. Unless you would prefer to host them yourself. Also, I don't plan on doing any death avatars but if you want to mangle it yourself, you are free to do so.
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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2006, 11:01:54 AM »
Q: Got a message for Captain Falcon?
A: I'm going to kill you! Resistance is futile.

Q: A word for those you hurt?
A: Are you in agony? Are you in pain? Stay away from me, before I hurt you some
more!

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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2006, 11:49:16 AM »
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sorry decoyman, the last two games I have played my actions resulted in your death


So you watched me die in Mafia VII in order to try to save a Mafia member? And then you piledrove me into a building the VERY NEXT GAME?!

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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2006, 12:23:14 PM »


I made a second Blood Falcon avatar with no background.  I'm not sure which I like better.
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2006, 01:48:04 PM »
vudu, I vote for the one with the background, because it positions the character in an environment a bit better.

(Ok, really it's because I'll be making the avatars for whoever doesn't make them on their own, and I don't want to spend the time to clip out the backgrounds But that's only for me. If you want to do the work, have at it!)
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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2006, 02:52:08 PM »
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sorry decoyman, the last two games I have played my actions resulted in your death


So you watched me die in Mafia VII in order to try to save a Mafia member? And then you piledrove me into a building the VERY NEXT GAME?!

Well, Zach, I've got one thing to say to you: CLEAN SLATE BUDDY! Yeah, I'm willing to let bygones be bygones – pretty nice for an evil phantom of destruction, huh?


yay, Thanks, although it was not the very next game, I hosted one in between.
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« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2006, 01:26:52 AM »
Well since nobody bit...  I'll join and take SAMURAI GOROH!  It takes a man to be fat AND sport a six-pack.
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« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2006, 01:28:01 AM »
I CHOOSE INFERNAL MONKEY TO BE CAPTAIN FALCON IN ANTICIPATION OF FALCON-RELATED HILARITY.

 

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« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2006, 01:36:03 AM »
Joining as Jame McCloud.
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« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2006, 01:56:27 AM »
Signing up as Jody Summers

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« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2006, 02:57:41 AM »
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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2006, 03:00:04 AM »
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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2006, 03:12:12 AM »




I should mention. Infernal drew all of these. There's a leon one too if anyone is interested.
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yay, Thanks, although it was not the very next game, I hosted one in between.


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« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2006, 06:40:40 AM »
Awesome. I haven't see Deguello play since Bill's game. Nice to have you back. And as far as I can tell, this is Shift Key's first game also. Welcome aboard. I mentioned it earlier but Decoyman is making avatars for the game. They will look something similar to Vudu's. However, if you would prefer the ones infernal drew, I'm fine with that. Just let us know so that waren't making one you don't want. Also, I'll send Dasmos a PM letting him know James is taken.
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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2006, 10:41:30 AM »
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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2006, 11:01:09 AM »
Woot. I made an avatar myself. Took way too long for me to find how to resize it, though.
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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2006, 05:50:54 PM »
I am in and I choose Silver Neelson, so be nice to the old guy.

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« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2006, 06:45:56 PM »
I guess I'll change my avatar up... even though I'll die on the first day again.  
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« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2006, 07:11:32 PM »
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And as far as I can tell, this is Shift Key's first game also. Welcome aboard. I mentioned it earlier but Decoyman is making avatars for the game. They will look something similar to Vudu's. However, if you would prefer the ones infernal drew, I'm fine with that.


I'm more than happy to go along with the avatar themes. If they get one together for Jody just PM me the link and I'll use it. I think Infernal's playing this time, I just got too excited when Captain Falcon was free and signed him up for it.


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« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2006, 07:36:08 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2006, 08:15:11 PM »
Wow, I'm ugly.

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« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2006, 08:24:24 PM »
Yeah, Pico is kind of like...
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« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2006, 08:25:49 PM »
Not as ugly as Samorai Goroh. Oohhhhhhhh. Plus, you are a hitman.
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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2006, 10:01:41 PM »
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Not as ugly as Samorai Goroh. Oohhhhhhhh. Plus, you are a hitman.


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« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2006, 02:58:00 AM »
Signing uuuppp! =o

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« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2006, 07:19:11 AM »
I'll join if someone gives me a character / avatar. I can't fully commit to it for a couple of days. This does look to be the best mafia yet though, and I just couldn't miss it. Should be good to go when it starts hopefully, which will be...?

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« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2006, 07:46:50 AM »
Sure, Decoyman is making avatars and I'm hosting them so we can do that. Also, Dasmos told me to pick someone random for him, so we can do that for you also. I'll just wait first to let those who want to choose a character pick someone so that I don't deny them the choice. Also, this thread will be closed on Saturday the 30th around 4 p.m. Eastern. Then I will send out the roles. Then, we'll start the game Oct. 1, this Sunday.

Oh, and Infernal. You need to choose a character. Unless you want us to choose one randomly. (It'll probably be Captain Falcon.)
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« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2006, 08:16:32 AM »
Starting on Sunday?  ouch.  When will votes close?
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« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2006, 10:24:12 AM »
Is Sunday a problem? It works well for me and my schedule but if it's a problem, I can move it up to the monday. Plus, I figured most people would have a day off so we could have more involvement on the first day. If you're wondering about the times, I was planning to start the days around, 11-12 Eastern and close them around midnight central time. So, if you live in the mountain timezone like I do, the days would start around 9am - 10am and close 11 pm.
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« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2006, 03:49:59 PM »
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« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2006, 04:29:00 PM »
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Oh, and Infernal. You need to choose a character. Unless you want us to choose one randomly. (It'll probably be Captain Falcon.)


You'd better give him Falcon or else I'll rain wrath and all that on you! :P

Mario: Decoyman is making avatars at the moment (thanks heaps!) so see what characters are left and get in on this!

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« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2006, 04:39:55 PM »
Starting sunday is fine, but I most likely won't show up until fairly late at night.
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« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2006, 05:23:42 PM »
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« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2006, 07:07:31 PM »
He can still play. There's a voting rule I made sure to mention. You must vote once every two days. So, he has to play for at least half the game.
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No, I meant Mafia 5 where there were two people who could protect anyone and they both protected each other. Crash and TYP. They won the game because no one could kill the other.

I died in that game (and didnt play very well while I was alive) so I dont feel like looking it up.  I remember TYP being protected the whole game, but I dont think I remember crash being protected.  Oh well, like I said, its not worth it to go and look it up.
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Is Sunday a problem? It works well for me and my schedule but if it's a problem, I can move it up to the monday. Plus, I figured most people would have a day off so we could have more involvement on the first day. If you're wondering about the times, I was planning to start the days around, 11-12 Eastern and close them around midnight central time. So, if you live in the mountain timezone like I do, the days would start around 9am - 10am and close 11 pm.
can the days be extended?
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Well, I can probably extend it later than earlier. See, on certain days, I have to get up at 6:30 am and take a bus to school where I have a class at 8:00. The class has no computers and doesn't end until 9:30. Then I can go to a lab and start the next day. I didn't want to stay up late on those nights where I had to get up early, which is why I was posting the time limit. However, I can leave it open for later at night if a mod wants to help me by locking it at a certain point. Unfortunately, I think the only mod so far is Pale and I'd hate to force that on him. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Wow... I've played Mafia before, but these rules are MINDBLOWINGLY COMPLEX compared to what I played.

Seriously, you guys are hardcore mafia players. I'm a poor little casual/nongamer...

Sorry, but I'll be sitting this one out. (Am I an example of a casual/non-gamer being scared off by hardcore rules? you betcha! I don't have the time or energy to get into a full blown drag-out forum conspiracy war of trusts!)

I'll make sure to watch the game's progress though!

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Ha ha! You're not that first one to say that to me. Yeah, I think part of the problem is I tried to lay things out as specifically as I could to prevent problems from in the past where there were "broken" mafias. Roles that had to much leeway. Also, I did it to welcome new players by making sure everything was layed out so they could figure everything out. And clearly, nothing welcomes new players more than lines and lines of rules. Also, somethings don't apply to everyone. All those roles with the mafia aren't really that important except to those in the mafia. This is meant to be a reference guide to the different groups.
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But..the townspeople have roles too? And then people have to switch sides? Or I have to come under the control of someone else? And I'll need to know all these roles to understand the shifts of power, the intrigues and why more than one person is dying at a time or what to suspect other people of being or GAAAAAAAAAAHHHH TOO COMPLEX! I AM NONGAMER!

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Kairon, it seems complex when all the rules are just sitting there in front of you before a game starts... but once you get into it and start playing, it starts making sense pretty quickly.

It's kind of like reading all the controls for a complex game like Splinter Cell or something and trying to memorize them before you even play the game. You just gotta get in there and play, man!

For example, you end up being a townie (biggest probability of this happening). What do you have to worry about? Basically, trying to analyze other peoples' votes/behavior, looking for patterns, and trying to team up with other townies. Pretty simple. It's hard when you try to analyze every single move any possible role could possibly make before a game starts. But when you've just got one role to worry about (your own), it becomes much easier.  
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That's really only a twelve hour day, which sucks for some people who don't live in the same country as we do (like Athrun).  Any chance you could do something like end it at midnight and then start another one immdiately (like how the days start and end in real life ) so everyone can play?
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But..the townspeople have roles too? And then people have to switch sides? Or I have to come under the control of someone else? And I'll need to know all these roles to understand the shifts of power, the intrigues and why more than one person is dying at a time or what to suspect other people of being or GAAAAAAAAAAHHHH TOO COMPLEX! I AM NONGAMER!

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Kairon we've discuss this before.  If you post on this forum.  Then your not a nongamer so ergo since we have a established that you are indeed a gamer and that was your barrier for entry;  You must now be playing in the mafia game... Right?   Stop trying to fit into Iwata's Brave New Market.  Be who you are.  Yeah the  game is complex.  Shoot I'm  a terrible player.  I talk to much and don't just sit there and stare.  I still play.  This one will be fun because we can play are characters.  Even if you don't want to dive into the complexity of it you can still have fun.  The last game was fun even though I was revealed the first day because we had a backstabbing non-person on our team.

Which remind me.  Khush are you going to get a mod to check for Dupe accounts?
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Awesome! Couchmonkey is back! Glad you could make it after all. Now for the other thingsgoing on her

Day times - Yes, I could announce those days. But getting to Vudu's suggestion of 24 hour days. This is something I was thinking about doing but the problem is, people with roles and hits need to pm first so I can get ready and post the next story block. I don't have a problem with doing this and if you want to try it, it's fine by me. But people with roles wouldn't have much time to act after the days events. If you want me to do it. PM me with a message saying go for 24. If 11 people do, then it's decided. Unless I get more no to 24.

Kairon - When I logged on, I had a pm waiting from Kairon and sent him a pm only to come here and see more discussion. All I'm going to say is I told Kairon to watch the game at least if he's not playing to see what it's like. The only thing I'm goint to add is that the first game I played was mafia 6. You can find it if you look back through the funhouse threads. That game had 30 people and a whole bunch of roles like this game. I had never played this game before. Only understood parts of it and didn't even know how to pm people. But thanks to some help from my mob boss Knowsnothing, I ended up winning the game for my mafia. Maybe it helped that I had no previous experience of mafia games, so I didn't have any concept on how it was supposed to be played. Still, Sometimes you just have to jump in headfirst. Even if you don't win, it's an experience.

Ok, enough with the motivational speeches. Let's answer one more question. Dupe accounts.

I asked Pale on like Day 1 of this sign-up thread if he could sticky it and check for any dupe accounts if there is someone I don't recognize. So far, I think we can trust every name signed up so far. But, yes, Pale's the man for the job.
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so, if you get enough votes, we go ahead with the 24 day idea....

but if you don't? oO
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If you want [24 hour days] PM me with a message saying go for 24. If 11 people do, then it's decided. Unless I get more no to 24.
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Might as well let you know what the vote tally is for 24 hour voting.

yes - 6

no - 1

And to answer Athrun's question: You don't want to know.    
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Hey, somebody stole our idea.

Anyway. 24 hour voting. Mmm. I'm certainly for 24 hour talking. But I think people should have a few hours where they can do their night actions in peace. You can do it like the one game, where voting was cut off at midnight EST, even though the game master went to bed earlier. And then voting started again at 6.
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Lol jsut signed up for one of these games on another forum. The clown running it has just made a huge debacle over the roles handed out. Givin one person two roles while 3 people missed out altogethor and this is in a townie free game. He then SAID OUT LOUD that those people didn' get roles, another stroke of pure genius. It's hilarious and I've just started posting my teamates names out to other players randomly for added lols to take the game super seriously.

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oh well, my pm box says it's full, so I can't send pms....so, I vote for the 24 hour thing

(I'll delete some pm later tonight )
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LOL! So I've jsut been KICKED OUT of this otehr Mafia game on the weaker board when it came to the Game master's attention taht I was sharing infomation! Apaprently revealing the names of my fellow townies (or lying) to a random member was so detrimental to the game taht he's totally restarting it.
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LOL! So I've jsut been KICKED OUT of this otehr Mafia game on the weaker board when it came to the Game master's attention taht I was sharing infomation! Apaprently revealing the names of my fellow townies (or lying) to a random member was so detrimental to the game taht he's totally restarting it.
Why is it that whenever you play mafia, everyone seems to hate you very quickly?  jk

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I was wondering the sme thing? 18 days seems to get kicked out of a lot fo mafia games. Fortunately, as Infernal said. We take our mafia games seriously. And come on, have you ever seen me go around and reveal people's roles?
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khush, can you end the game a hour earlier? I have a feeling that their going to be a lot of ninja edits and I dont want to be up all night watch out for ties and stuff...

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count me in!

if i was supposed to pick a racer, do it for me, i've got some uh... business to handle and don't want to look through the racers to pick someone, i never played the game. except on the demo disc that came with Zelda  
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Yes.  I take my games very seriously.  Did you hear about the new pricing system they're adding to Counter-Strike: Source?  It's gonna ruin league play!  Valve is a ***.
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On that note.  I'll say yes to 24 hour days and no to Link Sex.

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I'm in.  I still have to read over everything, but hey, it should work out plenty well, I trust Khush.  October 1st?  Should be able to swing that.

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Were you choosing a racer or do you want me to just assign you one?
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ok, ok. Im in, I've never been a fan of forum games, but believe it or not, I do really like to try new things. does twin norita counts as one member? thats the character I always pick in f-zero.



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i think i'll join..i never got mafia..i thnk Khushrenada explained it
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I'll be the Captain.  Captain Falcon that is.  Icon coming soon.

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Thanks for the invite... Total newbie but I'll give it a shot and try to keep up. Assign me a racer. I'm not picky.
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Just got back home. I was out for the night. Well, this is a pleasent surprise. 3 new people. Awesome!

Mantidor - The twins count as one. You got 'em. Welcome aboard.

ThePerm - That was the point of all the text. To help new ones. If you have any questions, pm me anytime. I'll be happy to help. One thing. Were you going to choose an F-Zero racer or did you want one assigned to you?

MattVDB - Alright, you got Captain Falcon I guess. There was some talk of Infernal having that but Infernal never claimed the captain. If this is a problem, let me know. As for an avatar, Vudu made one already. You may want to contact him. Or alternatively, Vudu could send me the avatar to host and then I could give you a captain avatar.

BigJim - Again. Thanks for trying it out. I was a newbie too in my first game and didn't quite know what all was happening but I ended up winning it. You figure it out pretty quick.



Well, now. For anyone else who has not joined yet, sign-up ends tomorrow. Don't be afraid to jump in for the first time. You won't be alone.
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assign me one...there are too many to choose from
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Actually, there aren't many left. But sure, I can assign you one. No problem.
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Biggest mafia ever huh (for anybody wondering, thats the current title of this thread, it seems to change every hour).  Why dont you back that up and post how many players we have so far.  Im feeling to lazy right now to go and look for myself.
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I would like to join.

Sounds like fun. This will be my first time playing outside of one party several years ago.
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Thirty!  Plus Nyladrin!  That makes thirty-one!  My skill with the mathematics is great!
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Now if any of these noobs don't post for days on end, they're automaticaly dead right? None of this "Lolz I was the mafia hitman and I've been in Paraguay for the past week, I win teh internet" Kill them. Kill them without mercy.

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I would like to join.

Sounds like fun. This will be my first time playing outside of one party several years ago.

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My good friend Khush convinced me to join this game via a very kind, intimate personal message that I could not reject. So here I am. And I would like to be Jack Levin.

Let it be noted two things:

Thing the first, I read some of the rules, but not all of them. I am experienced at real-life, simple Mafia, and this is so overwhelmingly complex that I am attracted to it with a bizarre masochistic lust.

Thing the second, PGC doesn't even have 30 READERS, let alone posters in the forums. So let's cut the crap about no dupes, okay? Like, two of my dupes are already signed up, and they didn't even tell me.  
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We're running out of racers! Does this mean the inclusions of racers from Maximun Velocity?
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We're running out of racers! Does this mean the inclusions of racers from Maximun Velocity?


Nah, duplicates of existing racers with a slightly different color scheme will do fine.
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We're running out of racers! Does this mean the inclusions of racers from Maximun Velocity?


Nah, duplicates of existing racers with a slightly different color scheme will do fine.
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Alright! The current number of players is 32 at the moment. This means it is the biggest mafia ever. Bill's mafia had the record at 30. So, we are celebrating the 10th edition with a bang. Most of the people who have played mafia at one time or another were able to join up. We even have a bunch of new people, so this is great.

Second. I posted somewhere that if we got 31 people a new role would be unlocked. Well here it is: A second mafia has been added. I know, it's nothing special. The second mafia has the exact same make-up as the mafia roles listed already. To designate between them, one mafia will be called the Legends mafia and the other the MaxVelocity mafia.

Third. I will ask two seperate mods to verify the Nyladrin account and make sure it is not someone else already playing. Otherwise, I just Nyladrin to choose a racer.

Fourth. Welcome aboard Svevan! or Evan! Not sure which you prefer. Not sure if that message comment is a joke or something appreciated but keep it down about the dupe accounts. I don't want people to find out I have a bunch already signed up for the game. This is going to be great. I'll control a whole mafia. I may have said too much already.

Fifth. We will be doing 24 hour voting. I'll start each day around midnight eastern or a bit after. I'll stop the game maybe an hour before then, so that anyone who has to change their night actions because of the day's events has a chance to do so. I will announce each day when voting ends.

Sixth, and finally. I'm not too worried about running out of racers. There are 40 racers to choose from. We have 32 people signed up and I don't think 9 more are going to suddenly sign up before the deadline. Though, I'd be happy to be proven wrong. But I doubt it will happen. Jonnyboy wrote me and said he couldn't play, so that should keep the excitement down.
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If you're adding a second mafia you might want to rebalance so the townies have a fighting chance.  One really powerful mafia wasn't that bad because the townies outnumbered them 5:1.  If there's a second one, I don't think the townies stand a chance with their current lineup.

Also, are there going to be two corrupt townies (one for each mafia)?
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Well, I thought it was balanced. Let's say the corrupted townies are orginally just townies. That means there would be 21 roles out there. That leaves 11 townies. Although, there are about 7 roles that benefit the townies. The townie idiot has the potential to harm. That means 18 townies to 12 mafia. While that may seemclose, keep in mind the mole situation. This person is working for the townies by rooting out the mafia. And both mafia's will have one. Plus, for one mafia to win, the other must be defeated. So there is going to be crossfire between them also. That's why I waited so long and for enough people to join before adding the second mafia. To make sure there was still a gap between them. Maybe, we'll see one or two other people join the game yet. This will add to townie numbers. Knowsnothing has mentioned joining up, so I'm waiting for a response from him. Maybe Kairon will decide to join since a bunch of new people who have never played before are trying it out. Tell me the difficulties you forsee.
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RE:Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #121 on: September 30, 2006, 12:19:22 PM »
Well. I guess we'll close the thread now.
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #122 on: September 30, 2006, 12:45:31 PM »
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« Reply #123 on: September 30, 2006, 12:53:14 PM »
so when dose day one start
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #124 on: September 30, 2006, 01:09:50 PM »
I just thought of something.  Since the mole is working for the townies, if he does his job well, his whole mafia will be dead except for him.  So what then?  Does he win with the townies?  Or does he remain mafia, and have to be killed for the townies to win?

Edit: and when are you gonna send out the roles?
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #125 on: September 30, 2006, 01:24:42 PM »
Nyladrin is my younger brother.  I talked to him while we were playing Mafia VII was it?  The Pokemon themed one.  Anyway, he liked it, and wanted to join.  Well, this is my next game after Pokemafia, so I called him up and invited him.  We live 60 miles apart, and there is no way in heck we'd share information.  I have to much fun to have it ruined like that.  I figure, the more people the better, right?

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« Reply #126 on: September 30, 2006, 05:50:12 PM »
Yeah, bad news. Something came up and I've been out for the night. I had the roles ready to go but wasn't able to start sending them. Not sure when I'll be home but hopefully I can still send them out tonight. Still, I think this means the game won't start now until Sunday evening. I'll start it a little early then. Unless, I'm home sooner than I think and can get all the roles ready, then maybe there's a chance the game will start around mif\dnight Mountain time. But we'll see what happens.

In the meantime, Knowsnothing can join.

MattVDB, your brother is welcome. You weren't here last game but Windyman played the game and used a dupe account also and sort of spoiled the game soon. So, we're being a bit more careful with new people we don't recognize.

The mole wins with the townies. He can't win with the mafia. There is something else about the role I'll mention later.

OK. So now everyone should be up to score. Sorry about this. I didn't expect this delay to happen.
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #127 on: September 30, 2006, 08:21:08 PM »
If it is not too late I will join.  If it is too late...I will look forward to playing the next game.

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« Reply #128 on: September 30, 2006, 08:33:49 PM »
I was just about to start sending out roles when I saw you're message Spak. Give me a moment. It won't take long to recalculate roles. However, I think this will be the last entry I take. Sorry to anyone else but you are welcome for the next game. I'll start sending out the roles in 10 minutes.
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #129 on: September 30, 2006, 08:46:47 PM »
wow, 34 players oO ......

this is going to be big.....
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« Reply #130 on: September 30, 2006, 10:55:29 PM »
The roles have gone out now. I'm waiting to find out who the corrupted townies will be. Legends mafia has actions on odd nights. MaxVelocity has actions even nights. Note: On the third day, Legends will have a mole and MaxVelocity will have a mole. On both this day, any person on the townie side may recieve a new role. The blackmailer.

The blackmailer know the role of the mole. The blackmailer will not reveal this role unless wanting the mole dead. As long as the blackmailer is alive, the mole works for the townies. If the blackmailer is killed, the mole has the option of either working for a townie win or going back to the mafia. The rest of the mafia will not know this choice and if they don't know who the mole is, may never be sure of one another. Wandering had asked me long ago about the mole blurting out all his mafia members and this seems like a good check and balance. It means the mole works quietly or his role will be revealed and he has a chance to reconnect with his mafia if he chooses. The blackmailer role can not be switched and it can be investigated. The mole does not know his blackmailer unless the balckmailer reveals their identity to the mole. That should about do it.


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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #131 on: September 30, 2006, 11:58:56 PM »
Fantastic, thanks for the avatar decoyman.

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« Reply #132 on: October 01, 2006, 12:25:08 AM »
new avatar...now just to figure out this game
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« Reply #133 on: October 01, 2006, 09:40:47 AM »
thanks for the avatar, but I miss Majora I think Im going to put the mask somewhere in there.
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #134 on: October 01, 2006, 10:17:23 AM »
Upper Left Corner over seeing them.  Because we all know it can control minds in it's spare time.
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« Reply #135 on: October 01, 2006, 01:40:28 PM »
Thx for the avatar.
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #136 on: October 01, 2006, 01:51:34 PM »
Notice how everyone has an avatar excpt Khush, the leader of this gang of misfits?  Odd, don't you think?

Also, MattVDB, my mortal enemy, needs to change his avatar so it matches everyone else's.  I recommend using this one.



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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #137 on: October 01, 2006, 02:16:49 PM »
Thank for the avatar decoyman. with 34 people this could be the longest or the shrotest game ever!
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« Reply #138 on: October 01, 2006, 02:58:27 PM »
Alright, I gave into peer pressure and will use Decoyman's Avatar.

Honestly, I kinda like his better then the one I made.
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« Reply #139 on: October 01, 2006, 05:12:47 PM »
Actually, I asked for one yesterday. I should check if it's done. But yeah. The person leading it all is the last to get an avatar. Maybe it's been all the invites I've been sending. Or the personal messages to everyone while handoing out the roles. A tip for future mafia hosters. If 34 people are playing. Use form letters.

And I'm still waiting for a certain mafia to tell me the candidate they want for the corrupted townie. I need it before the game starts.
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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #140 on: October 01, 2006, 05:59:36 PM »
You're welcome, for the avatars

I'm ready to get this game going! It seems like this has been the longest lead-up to a mafia game ever. Go Go F-Zero Racer!
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« Reply #141 on: October 01, 2006, 07:18:45 PM »
Hey guys, if you signed up, you are pretty much obligated to play.  The only chance the townies have of winning is if every player actually plays.  It would suck if half of the townies died the second night due to a lack of voting because they thought being a townie sucked.  Please, everybody that signed up, play.  Is that too hard to ask?  Cool cool.  Resume.

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RE: Mafia X: The Rules, The Roles and The Sign-up. This is closed.
« Reply #142 on: October 01, 2006, 07:26:16 PM »
What?  Here?  Now?  Vote now?  VOTE FOR MATTVDB?
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