Author Topic: 2 DS Mockups.... (Read 8484 times)

Requiem · « **on:** January 17, 2006, 07:07:53 AM »

Here is the first one...

There both...ok....but they do show you how the DS can be scaled down.

I like that first one best because it's creative. However, if they found a way to detach or switch the D-pad and button flaps, then it would be infinitely better. No more comprising the button size and space due to left-handers. Now they can simply switch it....

Pale · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:15:12 AM »

I personlly like the idea of having a mode that places the top screen completely over the bottom screen but with the screen facing up if you want it... for a nice feel when playing GBA games. If they are redoing it, it would be sweet if they could stuff the classic GB hardware in there as well.

Strell · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:50:04 AM »

I like the fact that one of them copies the Rev. It would be smart marketing on Nintendo's part to reinforce the Rev in everything from now on, and constantly drive home that look. If the GBA2 + DS/DS2 looked like it, it would present them as a family of products, which would only help to increase Nintendo's image and broaden the gaming market/spectrum.

As for the redesigns, the linked one is okay except that it includes an analog stick, something that won't happen. Additionally, the "touch mode" incarnation wouldn't be feasible because there's yet to be a game that is wholly dependent on touch input. You'd still need access to some face buttons, especially start/stop.

I like the second one better, but I sincerely doubt we'll be getting cool transforming machines if only for the fact that an increase in movable parts = greater potential for malfunctions: power cords coming loose in the machine, plastic breaking down, hinges wearing out, etc. That would be a PR nightmare. Given that people of all ages play these things, and that kids are a huge demographic, I really doubt they'd allow something that could be fragile even in the slightest. Nintendo's machines are the msot durable around, and it's mostly because they aren't doing crazy stuff with them.

However, *if* Nintendo went that route, then I'd love to see that design above, but with the ability to - as Pale mentioned - only see one screen for GBA games. That would be awesome. Morph it into a little square for travel, and then open it up based on what game you want (DS vs GBA).

I think we'll see something like the SP - it will be more square shaped, hopefully look iPod/Applish (white, oooh baby), and have the controls under the screen as opposed to the side. Something that is minimal, but doesn't go overboard with movable parts. Of course this might affect how well someone can reach touch controls midgame. Hmmm. We'll see. Nintendo never fails at a redesign imo.

Pale · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:54:24 AM »

The cool part about the first one is that you can flip down just one of the button sides. This allows for great thumb nubbin control.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2006, 08:21:58 AM »

Looks cool and sleek, but also incredibly fragile.
Bill showed me another similar design that looked sturdier, though a little less visually appealing. I'd prefer that, personally.

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2006, 08:25:58 AM »

moving parts can be a total pain, though. The first design is cool, but it would never really work.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2006, 08:34:57 AM »

The first design is cool in theory but I don't think it would work very well. Things get hectic when you're gaming and you want a strong sturdy controller. If it folds up then the shape of the controller might change while you're playing which would really mess you up. Sure they could "snap" into position but we apply a fair bit of force to a controller and something fragile like that probably would get wrecked easily.

The second idea again is really cool in theory but I'm pretty sure it would impossible to make. For the sides to slide out like that they would have to be hollow. So where does all the electronic "guts" behind the buttons and d-pad go?

Rhoq · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2006, 09:25:35 AM »

I like both designs.

The second looks a lot "cleaner" though.

vudu · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2006, 09:32:20 AM »

Honestly, I'm not a fan of either one. By leaving the buttons and D-pad exposed they're just asking for broken/unresponsive buttons.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2006, 09:35:03 AM »

I would sell my Xbox 360* to buy the second one. That seems a little too hight tech of a design for Nintendo to adopt. Its almost 007ish, like a combination of some of the new cell phones with a Rev-like casing.

*assuming I had one

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2006, 11:03:02 AM »

I don't like either of them.

The first one is going to need some sort of locking device, or its just going to be more difficult to play.

Besides that, its going to be really thick to put in your pocket, and carry around. Granted you can't carry around the regular DS very easily, however this one actually looks worse.

The second one has too many moving and sliding parts. I would be worried about screens getting scratched or springs breaking, the sliding portion getting stuck and more.

What is worse, is if it doesn't have a locking device, I could accidentally push in the controls on top of the other screen. Too much potential for damage.

The DS is very nice as it is. I have been hard pressed to find ways to really improve it.

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2006, 11:05:21 AM »

I really like the idea of a DS redesign being based off the Revolution controller.

IceCold · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2006, 11:06:34 AM »

Additionally, the "touch mode" incarnation wouldn't be feasible because there's yet to be a game that is wholly dependent on touch input.

Kirby Canvas Curse..

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2006, 11:11:15 AM »

I thought of another problem with the flipsides version of the DS. The face buttons are utterly exposed when folded up. This can and WILL lead to damage being done while transporting. When folded up, I don't want anything exposed for fear of getting ruined.

Artimus · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2006, 11:35:03 AM »

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Originally posted by: IceCold
Additionally, the "touch mode" incarnation wouldn't be feasible because there's yet to be a game that is wholly dependent on touch input.

Kirby Canvas Curse..

Start.

hudsonhawk · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2006, 12:08:32 PM »

They're both too fat, and fail to address the DS' main drawback in my mind: it doesn't fit comfortably in one's pocket.

I think a far more likely redesign would simply be use GB Micro-sized screens and would retain the classic clamshell while shrinking it and reducing its thickness.

Mario · « **Reply #16 on:** January 17, 2006, 01:32:00 PM »

I don't think it's possible to have the DS comfortably fit in your pocket, that's why Nintendo are still promoting Gameboy and maybe a bit where the "third pillar" thing comes from.

darknight06 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 17, 2006, 01:55:09 PM »

" think a far more likely redesign would simply be use GB Micro-sized screens and would retain the classic clamshell while shrinking it and reducing its thickness. think a far more likely redesign would simply be use GB Micro-sized screens and would retain the classic clamshell while shrinking it and reducing its thickness."

And screw over games that do use the touchscreen extensively? Er... no. The main reason I don't like the Micro is because the screen's too small, I can care less if it doesn't fit in my pocket if everything is ant sided.

Jensen · « **Reply #18 on:** January 17, 2006, 05:49:26 PM »

There isn't really much that can be changed, except for some trimming of fat.
Brain Training has you hold the DS sideways like a book, so the area around the top screen can help you balance it.
I kind of like this idea,
but it doesn't have a GBA port or a gray cartridge sticking out of it.

Artimus · « **Reply #19 on:** January 17, 2006, 06:27:39 PM »

I think the redesign will just be thinner and prettier.

Zach · « **Reply #20 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:05:17 PM »

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Originally posted by: Artimus
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Additionally, the "touch mode" incarnation wouldn't be feasible because there's yet to be a game that is wholly dependent on touch input.

Kirby Canvas Curse..

Start.

Feel the Magic: XX/XY

Strell · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:42:40 PM »

Ok wait a minute, does anyone honestly think 1-2 games that use touchpad ALMOST exclusively somehow makes them have a point?

That's like saying we had a cloudy day, I guess the sun doesn't exist anymore.

I.e., it's not helping your argument, guys. If anything, it's hurting it more and more.

UncleBob · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2006, 07:59:23 PM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I thought of another problem with the flipsides version of the DS. The face buttons are utterly exposed when folded up. This can and WILL lead to damage being done while transporting. When folded up, I don't want anything exposed for fear of getting ruined.

Both my mother's and my original GameBoy, GameBoy Color, 1st Generation GameBoy Advance and my PiL GameBoy each had exposed buttons and none of them have any issues.

And I can assure you, my GameBoys were transported. A *lot*.

IceCold · « **Reply #23 on:** January 17, 2006, 09:32:29 PM »

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Originally posted by: Strell
I.e., it's not helping your argument, guys. If anything, it's hurting it more and more.

?? There's no argument here.. I was just giving an example of a game.. I agree with you about the face buttons.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #24 on:** January 17, 2006, 09:36:54 PM »

Where does the sound come out of those?

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