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« Reply #3650 on: December 03, 2018, 10:10:59 AM »
As much as I loved the content provided by Netflix Marvel, I think they didn't need to go as violent as they did.  Except for maybe Punisher.  This obsession with rated R content strictly for violence isn't for me.  I know others like it...but I want everyone to be able to enjoy Marvel products.  That means finding the right balance to make the movies exciting for both adults and children.  And the Marvel movies have done a fantastic job with that...and I am sure Daredevil and the Defenders shows can easily do that on a Disney streaming service.

Trying to appeal to everyone pleases no one. The movies are very average unfocused disposable products despite the big numbers and you can't have that for TV shows. You have to get them to come back week after week without the year long hype build up.

So you pick a target, deeply understand who you are making this for and make it just for them. You are focused, not off chasing phantom viewers abandoning your base. If you compromise the integrity of the show the fans will know and they will warn people off; ie Star Trek, Ghostbusters 2016, Star Wars. The fans are the most powerful marketing machine you can have that no amount of money can buy. People outside your target audience will watch if it is good.

If the character is violent, your show has to be violent. The built in range expectations for the stories, look, tone etc must be adhered to unless you are very, very good at translating and transforming the story. See: Nolan Batman, DCAU, Orville; counter example: DC movies, remakes/reboots in general.

The Marvel movies had started out this way. They made it for the fans first and from there organically expanded it's reach. It really really helped that the movies for most part are self contained leaving the audience satisfied instead of sequel/universe baiting.
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Re: IT'S MAHVEL BAYBEE!! [OT] for the Marvel Cinematic Universe (Movies & TV)
« Reply #3651 on: December 03, 2018, 11:12:32 AM »
New Captain Marvel trailer tomorrow at halftime during Monday Night Football, Avengers 4 trailer Wednesday morning.


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« Reply #3652 on: December 03, 2018, 11:36:45 AM »
I imagine any hard R content will wind up on FXX

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« Reply #3653 on: December 03, 2018, 06:51:02 PM »
Marvel developing Shang Chi film
https://deadline.com/2018/12/shang-chi-marvel-studios-first-asian-film-superhero-dave-callaham-kevin-feige-black-panther-1202512660/

Asian Superhero
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then looking for an Asian actor to play the lead role

The choreography on this better be fucking crazy.
I don't know anything about Shang Chi, but I know he does Martial Arts, so he better be able to absolutely kick ass.

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« Reply #3654 on: December 03, 2018, 09:01:44 PM »
Shang Chi, master of Kung Fu. He was a bit of a Bruce Lee clone, written by Doug Moench and drawn by Paul Gulacy. they relaunched the series with the original creative team a long while ago.



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« Reply #3655 on: December 03, 2018, 10:51:28 PM »
Captain Marvel Trailer has arrived

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LHxvxdRnYc

and rumor has it that A4 trailer drops on Wed

and a trailer for Square Enix Avengers game drops this week as well.

and another rumor is that Sony plans to drop the first teaser for Spider-Man: Far From Home this week as well.

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« Reply #3656 on: December 04, 2018, 12:29:43 AM »
I just adore that trailer.  I am so in.  Excited as hell.

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« Reply #3657 on: December 04, 2018, 12:43:13 AM »
She looks pretty badass with the full suit and mohawk.

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« Reply #3658 on: December 04, 2018, 01:42:51 AM »
I just love they've gone all in making her look insanely powerful.  Thor with all his lightning is nothing compared to this lol. I am ready to strap in for a hell of a spectacle.

I wonder if that's her as Binary near the end?

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« Reply #3659 on: December 04, 2018, 01:46:34 AM »
That was better than the first trailer, gave her a little more life. She still seems stiff.

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« Reply #3660 on: December 04, 2018, 03:39:47 AM »
Marvel developing Shang Chi film
https://deadline.com/2018/12/shang-chi-marvel-studios-first-asian-film-superhero-dave-callaham-kevin-feige-black-panther-1202512660/

Asian Superhero
looking for an Asian Director
then looking for an Asian actor to play the lead role

The choreography on this better be fucking crazy.
I don't know anything about Shang Chi, but I know he does Martial Arts, so he better be able to absolutely kick ass.

They damn well better have Iko Uwais (and his group of regulars) involved with the stunt choreography.

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« Reply #3661 on: December 04, 2018, 03:57:21 AM »
That was better than the first trailer, gave her a little more life. She still seems stiff.
I haven'y checked out any CM stuff until now. She is making Felicity Jones look like a good actress. Is George Lucas directing her?

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Marvel developing Shang Chi film
https://deadline.com/2018/12/shang-chi-marvel-studios-first-asian-film-superhero-dave-callaham-kevin-feige-black-panther-1202512660/

Asian Superhero
looking for an Asian Director
then looking for an Asian actor to play the lead role

The choreography on this better be fucking crazy.
I don't know anything about Shang Chi, but I know he does Martial Arts, so he better be able to absolutely kick ass.
If they want that China money they are going to have to hire mainlanders or else it's going to crash and burn in China. They are racists as hell and nationalists to boot.
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« Reply #3662 on: December 04, 2018, 10:07:33 AM »
She looks pretty badass with the full suit and mohawk.

I was worried we wouldn't get the mohawk.  The only thing missing now is the sash.
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« Reply #3663 on: December 04, 2018, 02:26:54 PM »
She looks pretty badass with the full suit and mohawk.
The only thing missing now is the sash.

Yeah, I really hope she picks this up throughout the movie somewhere.  Hopefully there'll also be some reference to the Ms Marvel suit at some point too.

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« Reply #3664 on: December 04, 2018, 07:16:42 PM »
The Sash is iconic in the comic book, but it really is impractical and it just doesn't work in live action.  First imagine animating cloth while flying or really any subtle movements while floating.  Second, it would either A) potentially restrict her movements or B) fall off of her while she is moving about. 

I think the red belt with the pockets is a perfect compromise that pays tribute to the sash.

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« Reply #3665 on: December 04, 2018, 10:14:08 PM »
and a trailer for Square Enix Avengers game drops this week as well.

and another rumor is that Sony plans to drop the first teaser for Spider-Man: Far From Home this week as well.

Trailer rumor rearrangement

SE Avengers Game - Thursday
Avengers: Subtitle TBD - Friday
Spider-Man: FFH - Saturday

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« Reply #3666 on: December 05, 2018, 12:39:54 AM »
I hope Avengers doesn't get a trailer at this point.  Or if they do, they are able to edit it in such a way to reveal literally nothing!  Like just show the original Avengers and Thanos and say.  Avengers 4.  Or let the title literally be the only spoiler.

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« Reply #3667 on: December 05, 2018, 12:57:53 AM »
You should be more worried about the Spider-Man: Far From Home trailer.

Sony gives no fucks about spoiling the A4 if it's gonna hype FFH.
Hopefully Marvel/Disney gets some sort of say in the marketing approach, considering the fate of Spidey at the end of IW.

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« Reply #3668 on: December 05, 2018, 09:57:12 AM »
I wish Captain Marvel was out sooner.  This gap between Ant-Man and the Wasp and CM feels so long, and A4 will be almost right after.  If CM was out sooner, I feel like Marvel could've dropped the A4 trailer with CM to minimize how much attention is shifting from one film to the next.
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« Reply #3669 on: December 05, 2018, 06:30:35 PM »
I bet the A4 teaser will be the most EPIC tease of all time.

I hope its nothing more than a montage of who's left. A clip of Thanos viciously interacting with someone,  and then the Avengers logo.
Then the dust blows in and forms the subtitle.

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« Reply #3670 on: December 05, 2018, 07:11:15 PM »
I'm really surprised the A4 subtitle hasn't leaked.

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« Reply #3671 on: December 05, 2018, 08:38:44 PM »
I bet the A4 teaser will be the most EPIC tease of all time.

It almost needs to be.  People are gonna be more hyped for the trailer than they are for Captain Marvel's entire movie.
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« Reply #3672 on: December 05, 2018, 09:16:25 PM »
I bet the A4 teaser will be the most EPIC tease of all time.

It almost needs to be.  People are gonna be more hyped for the trailer than they are for Captain Marvel's entire movie.


And then it will be followed up by Sony's Spider-Man: FFH trailer that just spoilers a major plot point from A4 by explaining how Peter is still alive after the SNAP.

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« Reply #3673 on: December 05, 2018, 09:27:26 PM »
I'm hoping the SM:FFH trailer doesn't focus on the how and why, just on the fact that yes, Peter's alive, and he's on an adventure.  But I wouldn't put it past Sony to include a scene in the trailer where Peter literally says "First I went into space, where I get turned to dust, then I was trapped inside an infinity stone and had to break out through the quantum realm, and then had to watch my mentor die at the hands of a mad titan. And now I'm on a field trip to London? What a week!"
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« Reply #3674 on: December 05, 2018, 09:42:06 PM »
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