Topic: Goldeneye Wii

[Killer_Man_Jaro]

Huzzah! Just got GoldenEye this morning for my birthday. Haven't had time to put it in yet, but rest assured, I'll be sticking my Friend Code in the appropriate thread later.

[KDR_11k]

Is it just me or are shotguns overpowered? I've been getting one shot kills at pretty long distances with the SEG550, pretty much at any range that happens in Facility.

[Caterkiller]

I didn't like blond bond at first, but after this I think I can appreciate his movies more. Really enjoying this game, will be joining you guys online soon. Or did everyone leave to COD already?

[KDR_11k]

Nah, CoD costs more and is the same game so why waste money on it.

[Morari]

I didn't like blond bond at first, but after this I think I can appreciate his movies more.

How does that make sense? He's just a transplant for Pierce Brosnan in the game...

Daniel Craig would look more convincing in an SS officer's uniform than as James Bond.

[broodwars]

I went back and finished-up my 007 Agent run through Goldeneye tonight, and man I had forgotten how much I hate the last two levels of this game.  The second-to-last level (especially on the hardest difficulty levels) is full of obnoxious rocket troopers and just drags on, while the last level contains all of my favorite things in a game: a section where you have to defend an NPC against waves of goons; a timed section; and a fight with a boss who spends the entire fight hiding while sending wave after wave of goons at you that like to throw grenades.  It was aggravating, but I completed it, and that will probably be the end of my time with the Goldeneye Singleplayer.  The last group of missions was hard enough as it was with regenerating health, so I think I'll pass on doing 007 Classic w/ Time Trials.

Fun game, though a bit of a missed opportunity to really expand the level design on the higher difficulties with new objectives.  I guess I'll have to wait for Timesplitters 4...oh wait, Timesplitters 3 didn't do that, either, so no reason to believe the potential sequel would.   

[Caterkiller]

I didn't like blond bond at first, but after this I think I can appreciate his movies more.

How does that make sense? He's just a transplant for Pierce Brosnan in the game...

Daniel Craig would look more convincing in an SS officer's uniform than as James Bond.

After Pierce I just could not see another man as Bond, seeing the blonds face in this game all the time has warmed me up to him.

[DAaaMan64]

I cannot warm up to a man who's playing James Bond and cannot drive a stick shift.

[KDR_11k]

I've tried playing MW2 after GoldenEye and it's just soooo slow and cluttered. The levels are full of details that make it hard to see enemies and turn it into a sniperfest. The simpler levels in GE make sure you can see people better even at a quarter of the resolution and have real battles.

[Caterkiller]

I've tried playing MW2 after GoldenEye and it's just soooo slow and cluttered. The levels are full of details that make it hard to see enemies and turn it into a sniperfest. The simpler levels in GE make sure you can see people better even at a quarter of the resolution and have real battles.

You know, that's an interesting point. I can't think of a specific example but I know I've felt this way before in a game but never knew how to voice the issue. I have not played MW2 but would be caused because many of the colors are so similar?

Reminds of when I go the grocery store and I walk down an isle, the items can literaly confuse my eyes. Maybe something is wrong with me.

[Killer_Man_Jaro]

No, I totally get what you mean, Caterkiller. The last time I played Call of Duty online was with the first Modern Warfare, and I remember thinking the maps just felt so unstructured and all over the place. My main problem was that Modern Warfare's online (and this very much stems from the overcomplicated map designs) is that there are hardly any actual firefights, like KDR said. I always seemed to be getting kills by shooting someone from the side or behind them. Equally, when I died, I usually got shot from an angle, before I even knew there was anybody there. It's because the way routes converge on a map means that at most given points, there's a dozen places that enemies could shoot you from. There needs to be some structure to multiplayer maps, and based on what I've seen of Goldeneye, which is not much mind you, it appears to do a much better job of it.

[KDR_11k]

Also players are camouflaged and I'm pretty sure ther level designs are deliberately set up so that environmental features look like enemy players at a glance.

[Stratos]

I like that about Modern Warfare. You can use cover to your advantage. Staying in well structured groups can help protect you from surprise rear and side assaults. It feels like a real fight in a real place. Much better than perfectly symmetrical arenas. Keeps you on your toes.

[ShyGuy]

Also players are camouflaged and I'm pretty sure ther level designs are deliberately set up so that environmental features look like enemy players at a glance.

Two of the multiplayer maps in Black Ops are setup that way. Nuketown has dummies everywhere and Firing Range has human shaped targets everywhere, some that move.

[BranDonk Kong]

Call of Duty isn't Quake, you're supposed to have hiding spots and a dozen places where you could hit someone from. It's a war-based game.

[Morari]

Call of Duty isn't Quake

God forbid it be a fun game!

[BranDonk Kong]

Well technically the Modern Warfare engine is based off of Quake 3's, I believe. Quake/Unreal Tournament are fun, but it's a different kind of fun. I kind of wish you could have the Unreal Tournament announcer in Call of Duty games. Now Goldeneye...I still need to play it. Hopefully soon.

[KDR_11k]

Also players are camouflaged and I'm pretty sure ther level designs are deliberately set up so that environmental features look like enemy players at a glance.

Two of the multiplayer maps in Black Ops are setup that way. Nuketown has dummies everywhere and Firing Range has human shaped targets everywhere, some that move.

It's not that explicit in MW2 but I'm pretty certain the way some lights, wood panels, etc are arranged to look like somebody is standing there is deliberate.

Call of Duty isn't Quake, you're supposed to have hiding spots and a dozen places where you could hit someone from. It's a war-based game.

And less fun IMO. War is hell, GoldenEye is fun.

[Morari]

Well technically the Modern Warfare engine is based off of Quake 3's, I believe.

John Carmack is a god among programmers. The earlier versions of the IW engine were based off of the Q3A sourcecode. Only the very first Call of Duty ever really used a pure Q3A engine though. Of course at this point the Call of Duty games use an entirely proprietary engine.

[Stratos]

When you have a game as big as CoD you want everything in it to be proprietary. Less of the pie you have to share with other people.

[Mop it up]

No, I totally get what you mean, Caterkiller. The last time I played Call of Duty online was with the first Modern Warfare, and I remember thinking the maps just felt so unstructured and all over the place. My main problem was that Modern Warfare's online (and this very much stems from the overcomplicated map designs) is that there are hardly any actual firefights, like KDR said. I always seemed to be getting kills by shooting someone from the side or behind them. Equally, when I died, I usually got shot from an angle, before I even knew there was anybody there. It's because the way routes converge on a map means that at most given points, there's a dozen places that enemies could shoot you from. There needs to be some structure to multiplayer maps, and based on what I've seen of Goldeneye, which is not much mind you, it appears to do a much better job of it.

By mop, you figured out a way to explain how I feel as well. This is why Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were such good games to me, because I much prefer the "corridor" style of level design to the open worlds of games like Call of Duty and Halo. The Conduit had levels like that as well, which is why I like it better than Call of Duty, but because it is so light on features I ended up playing Modern Warfare more.

[Caterkiller]

I just played online for the first time! Man I had a good time! Can't wait to join you guys!

I'm trying to follow everyone's conversations, so is this games multiplayer comparable to the latest COD?

[kraken613]

I just played online for the first time! Man I had a good time! Can't wait to join you guys!

I'm trying to follow everyone's conversations, so is this games multiplayer comparable to the latest COD?

Not even close to the options you have in Black Ops. This game is good for single player and local multiplayer where Black Ops just dominates it in the online options.

[bustin98]

Cater, you need to add your Goldeneye code to the Code Exchange thread.

[KDR_11k]

I'm not adding my friend code to that because playing with Americans would just end up too laggy.

CoD has more options and a more evolved unlock structure but IMO the actual gameplay in GE is better.


Man, the SEGS 550 feels overpowered. I'm getting kills at ranges that should not work, hell, I sniped a dude from the catwalk on Outpost. That thing dominates every map except Memorial.