Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 665763 times)

son of lucas · « **Reply #1350 on:** February 02, 2007, 07:20:30 AM »

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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim

Kind of like Quinn and her tiny pores.

Is that a Daria reference? I approve!

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1351 on:** February 03, 2007, 01:54:49 PM »

thank you for reminding me I need to get Daira on DVD

Kairon · « **Reply #1352 on:** February 03, 2007, 07:22:12 PM »

You mean Diarrhea, uh uh uh, Diarrhea, uhu uh uh?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
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segagamer12 · « **Reply #1353 on:** February 03, 2007, 07:30:30 PM »

sorry Daria.

matt oz · « **Reply #1354 on:** February 04, 2007, 04:25:01 AM »

too bad it's not actually on DVD

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1355 on:** February 04, 2007, 05:43:57 AM »

sure it is I got the entire series last night. you can put anything ona dvd. I already have all the episodes recored onto vhs but wanted to see them on dvd.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1356 on:** February 04, 2007, 11:04:17 AM »

Totally does not count.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #1357 on:** February 04, 2007, 02:27:07 PM »

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Originally posted by: son of lucas
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim

Kind of like Quinn and her tiny pores.

Is that a Daria reference? I approve!

Yep.

*****

The only Daria I know of that has been release on DVD are the two movies, Is it Fall Yet? and Is it College Yet?

The reason the rest of the series hasn't be released supposibly has to do with music rights.

ShreddersDojo · « **Reply #1358 on:** February 05, 2007, 02:34:14 AM »

Trying to think of Altered Beast line to fit Sony mess....failing.

I've always had a hate on for Sony. As someone pointed out much earlier, they are not Videogame developers, and where it not for the PS3 brand name, I wonder how many third party folks would stick with them?

Sony has ALWAYS overcharged for their brand name, and for that, they are idiots in the extreme. I warn anyone away from Sony products for just that reason. The company has just come off as arrogant to me...

In the begining, I was all for Blue-Ray support because of the bigger storage...but when you think about it, who would want a 50GB Coaster disc to fail, let alone need that much storage? I also finally saw King Kong on HDDVD....even on an analog input it looked GREAT. I am now leaning toward the HD-DVD camp...but will give blue-ray it's chance when players hit the $299 mark...

JonLeung · « **Reply #1359 on:** February 05, 2007, 06:49:46 AM »

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In the begining, I was all for Blue-Ray support because of the bigger storage...but when you think about it, who would want a 50GB Coaster disc to fail, let alone need that much storage? I also finally saw King Kong on HDDVD....even on an analog input it looked GREAT. I am now leaning toward the HD-DVD camp...but will give blue-ray it's chance when players hit the $299 mark...

Same here. I thought, logically, bigger=better. So I was hoping for Blu-Ray at first (that's without an E, just because we don't like it doesn't mean we shouldn't properly spell it). But I liked the name HD-DVD better.

There's no such thing as too big (in a few years terabytes will be the norm and before you know it, even a 100 GB disc isn't enough). But since the Blu-Ray is so closely associated with the garbage that is the PS3, and that for now no one can truly tell much difference between a Blu-Ray movie and an HD-DVD movie, and we aren't yet in despearate need for 50 GB discs, I say Blu-Ray can go ahead and bomb just like Sony's other failed formats.

I'm wondering, though. Despite the fact that the PS3 isn't selling as well as Sony hoped, it is still quite a boost, of just as many more Blu-Ray players thrust into the market. (If people in general aren't ready to make the switch to the next generation of discs, then there's no reason to believe that people will be buying up HD-DVD players just because they don't want a PS3.) So in that regard, isn't Blu-Ray now quite more popular (as in, in more homes) than HD-DVD, even if it is "by default"? A "victory" for Sony, even if the PS3s are struggling to sell?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1360 on:** February 05, 2007, 07:13:05 AM »

Blu-Ray sells 3x as many discs as HDDVD. I wonder if people were just misinterpreting data when claiming "the porn industry decides the winner"?

Blue Plant · « **Reply #1361 on:** February 05, 2007, 08:45:26 AM »

I wonder if those bundled copies of Talladega Nights (*shudder*) were included in that tally.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1362 on:** February 05, 2007, 09:27:39 AM »

I'd actually like to see some official statistics from NPD on that before I believed it.

It's the type of thing Sony would lie about on principle so I'm very hesitant to believe it.

capamerica · « **Reply #1363 on:** February 05, 2007, 10:30:55 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Blu-Ray sells 3x as many discs as HDDVD. I wonder if people were just misinterpreting data when claiming "the porn industry decides the winner"?

I find the numbers a bit sketchy, the same story showed up on Digg and alot of people pointed out that it came from a Playstation website, I would like to see the original source if there is one thats not from a Pro-Sony site.

Also I pointed this out on Digg, But the Blu-Ray sales didn't specify it was for Blu-Ray Movies, It just said for Blu-Ray discs, Which is a number that is actually very unfair since HD-DVD is only used for Movies and Storage while Blu-Ray discs are used for Movies, Storage and Games.

I would like to see the figures broken down by each use. I would be willing to bet that the figures are inflated due to Blu-Ray games on the PS3.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1364 on:** February 05, 2007, 05:33:09 PM »

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Also I pointed this out on Digg, But the Blu-Ray sales didn't specify it was for Blu-Ray Movies, It just said for Blu-Ray discs, Which is a number that is actually very unfair since HD-DVD is only used for Movies and Storage while Blu-Ray discs are used for Movies, Storage and Games.

I would like to see the figures broken down by each use. I would be willing to bet that the figures are inflated due to Blu-Ray games on the PS3.

Now that is how you read between the lines. Carefully worded PR to let the uninformed assume that they have all the facts when infact all they have a very misleading figure. Thats nothing new for Sony though, with the whole Shipped vs Sold thing.

Kairon · « **Reply #1365 on:** February 05, 2007, 07:29:42 PM »

Does that mean we have rough PS3 game shipment numbers?

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Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1366 on:** February 05, 2007, 08:12:23 PM »

Yeah, I noticed the "discs" bit as well.

Those were Sony's words and not yours, right KDR?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1367 on:** February 05, 2007, 08:32:29 PM »

Dunno who said that, I'm not in a position to compile statistics like that.

Mikintosh · « **Reply #1368 on:** February 07, 2007, 08:31:05 PM »

I bet based on nothing but my intuition that they're counting the PS3 games, as there's no way you have such a lopsided ratio otherwise; most people are not buying the systems to use as movie players, plain and simple.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1369 on:** February 07, 2007, 09:25:22 PM »

Most people aren't buying HD players at all, I think it's quite possible that the PS3 pack-in plus a few random BRD purchases were enough to make that difference.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1370 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:54:22 AM »

I see way more Blu Ray commercials than HD-DVD and I see more movies going Blu Ray than HD-DVD so it looks like Sony may have gambled on the right format. Its still way to early to tell but if BR geta lead thsi early on that will affect the movie companies. But rememebr UMD had a very good start initialy so nothing is definate right now.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1371 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:32:47 AM »

Cap pointed out that when they say "Discs sold" they mean BluRay discs that have left the factories that make them, period.

Discs sold /= customers who have paid money for a piece of BluRay media.

Arbok · « **Reply #1372 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:46:23 AM »

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I see way more Blu Ray commercials than HD-DVD and I see more movies going Blu Ray than HD-DVD so it looks like Sony may have gambled on the right format.

Beating HD-DVD would only be a step in the process though. Considering how every major release on DVD still has a full screen counterpart, and how window boxing the image on most discs to support lower end setups is still more common than not today, I fail to see a common consumer demand for a new format that would require a HD tv to fully enjoy.

If anything, I predict the winner of this war will be the next Laserdisc: hailed by some hardcore video affeciandos for its improvments over the current format of choice, but never catching on with the average consumer.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1373 on:** February 08, 2007, 10:12:38 AM »

And the next-gen format winner is....

Your hard drive + interweb. And any crap you manage to view on Wii.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1374 on:** February 08, 2007, 11:09:57 AM »

I think it'll go to downloadable media as well.

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