Author Topic: Final Fantasy IV DS (Read 16985 times)

Ghisy · « **on:** May 09, 2007, 06:11:40 AM »

Guess what? Square-Enix is remaking FFIV in 3D for the DS.
As much as I love FF, I think S-E is milking the cow to death on this one.
I already have 2 versions (PSOne and GBA), I'm kind of tired of buying the same game over and over again (not that I have to but yeah, you get the point).
Sources: GoNintendo & NWR

Darkheart · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:40:18 AM »

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9831/ff4dsyl4.jpg I posted this on the main page but I figured Id share here, bask in the glory that SE can provide in the Ds. . .

decoyman · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:00:13 AM »

Hmm, weird art style. Is Cecil supposed to look so... dainty?

Eh, whatever, I'll probably still get it. I haven't bought it since the SNES, so for me it's still fresh.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:22:22 AM »

I will be getting this, I have Final Fantasy IV on SNES, PSOne, & GBA. But I will get this because FFIV is my favorite.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:45:25 AM »

Well, now I'm sure as hell not going to buy the GBA version anymore.

Athrun Zala · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:04:41 PM »

since I-VI are already available on DS, I'd rather have SE port VII-IX to the DS instead....

capamerica · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2007, 06:25:47 AM »

It's really pissing me off that all Nintendo users are seeing are ports of the same freaken Final Fantasy games that we got durring the GBA era while the PSP is getting all the other Square games that we've been wanting to see as ports.

I don't give a flying F**k about a 3D remake of Final Fantasy IV, I bought IV when it came out on the GBA a little over a year ago. Okay sure its nice and I might buy it. Buy why the hell can't we get some games that Nintendo fans haven't played? Why can't we get DS remakes of FFVII-IX or Tactics or Dragon Quest or Star Ocean or Valkyrie Profile or Secret of Manna or Chrono Cross/Gear?

I might be the biggest die hard Sqaure fan here, and I'm getting royally pissed off with what Square is doing.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2007, 06:46:52 AM »

We are getting Tactics sequel. (PSP is getting an enhanced port of a PSone game)
We are getting Dragon Quest IX. (not a spin off, but the 9th game of the biggest RPG franchise in Japan!)
We are getting Rings of Fate. (a DS sequel to the GCN game, also getting a separate Wii sequel as well)

There are more, but I'm not going to list them.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2007, 06:49:23 AM »

Blame that on Square's "we must show equal support" belief, meaning that some games will be featured on the wrong console and such.

I agree, though. They should focus on bringing games that gamers want or have been ignored in the last few years.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2007, 08:11:05 AM »

I think all this remake BS is square's excuse of not being a active person in the VC,XBLA, PSNetwork.

capamerica · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2007, 08:19:53 AM »

Don't get me wrong nitsu, I'm very happy that Nintendo is getting more new content then the PSP, but none the less I rather not have another batch of remakes of FFIV-VI. It sucks that all we get are remakes of the Nintendo era Final Fantasy games while the PSP gets all the rest of the Square library.

Adrock · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:55:52 PM »

The only original PSP titles from Square-Enix that I know of are Crisis Core and the recent, Dissidia: Final Fantasy. After that, they have remakes of FF 1 and 2, remakes of the first 2 Star Ocean titles (just announced), a port of Final Fantasy Tactics, and a port of Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth.

Add Reverent Wings and Children of Mana to nitsu niflheim's list of original DS titles above.

Support seems pretty even. And seeing how port happy Square-Enix is, I wouldn't be surprised if they port some of those PSP titles on Wii.

Union Pentagon · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2007, 03:54:40 PM »

Amerika-jin Final Fantasy II/Nihon-jin Final Fantasy IV?

Louieturkey · « **Reply #13 on:** May 16, 2007, 06:38:33 PM »

FFT port on PSP is an FFT remake. Well, they upped the graphics and added voice acting to the new cut scenes and added the Onion Knight, whatever that is.

MaleficentOgre · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2007, 02:16:36 AM »

it's not surprising since square recently said somewhere (or at least I think I read it. I could just be putting in what I perceived them to be saying) they were focusing their attention on bringing their old games to new fans instead of focusing on newer stuff. and making everything legacied, like how we already have 3 FFXIII games before it's even close to being out. mostly cause it's cheaper and easier for them and makes more money.

Mashiro · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2007, 04:07:37 PM »

Bumpety bump bump!

Final Fantasy IV Screenshots

couchmonkey · « **Reply #16 on:** August 22, 2007, 03:37:36 AM »

I might look into this since I don't own the original, but I think Square Enix is getting reeeeally lazy lately.

Adrock · « **Reply #17 on:** August 22, 2007, 11:57:37 PM »

They're not even making the FF remakes themselves. Most of their remakes are farmed out. And they're not even remaking the games people want remade. Ok, Star Ocean 1 and 2 are pretty sweet. Still, no one is clawing for a FFIV remake. Where's Chrono Trigger? Secret of Mana? Seiken Densetsu 3? Final Fantasy 7-9?

So yeah, lazy... and lame!

Entroper · « **Reply #18 on:** August 27, 2007, 03:04:51 AM »

The art style is REALLY not doing it for me. I actually find it offensive. I have FFIV for the GBA... I don't think I'll be going anywhere near this game.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #19 on:** August 28, 2007, 06:13:21 AM »

Offensive? It looks like the avatars from the original put into 3D to me.

While nobody is shouting for a Final Fantasy IV remake, I hate to say it...but I do think it will make way more money than a Chrono Trigger remake. Every time they redo one of the games it seems to sell nicely. Except when it's on PSP.

Ghisy · « **Reply #20 on:** August 28, 2007, 10:01:52 AM »

Ahhh Chrono Trigger remake...*drools*

Mashiro · « **Reply #21 on:** August 28, 2007, 01:30:56 PM »

A full scale CT remake on the Wii . . . would sell 5 million copies I have no doubt in my mind.

Louieturkey · « **Reply #22 on:** August 30, 2007, 05:44:50 AM »

Quote
Originally posted by: Entroper
The art style is REALLY not doing it for me. I actually find it offensive. I have FFIV for the GBA... I don't think I'll be going anywhere near this game.

Is it because they all look like little kids rather than seasoned warriors?

Entroper · « **Reply #23 on:** August 31, 2007, 08:25:37 PM »

Yeah, the maturity level is part of it. The other part of it is their huge, misshapen heads. They all look like ALIENS for crying out loud. I'm all for interesting art styles; I loved Wind Waker and I especially loved Dark Cloud 2. This is just nowhere close to the way I imagined the characters when playing on the SNES and GBA. Not even on the same planet.

jakeOSX · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2008, 09:20:21 AM »

damn did i have to dig this one out of the archives...

this game comes out this week. why is it rated M?

jakeOSX · « **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2008, 09:54:11 AM »

oh.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/20/best-buy-ad-rerates-ds-games-as-mature/

apparently it was a mistake. you can let this thread slide back into the dark pit from which it came.

bosshogx · « **Reply #26 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:10:55 AM »

So I died three times trying to cross the desert to the cave where you meet Tella. Then I got raped by 4 tiny mages in the cave.

Man, I love the difficulty of old-school RPG's. Every battle could be your last.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #27 on:** July 25, 2008, 07:29:25 PM »

I'm about 4-5hrs in and I LOVE this game, it brings back so many memories from FFII on SNES (Yes I know FFIV is FFII in the US) and the game is excellent in about every way. The 3D visuals are great, the cutscenes are solid, and the gameplay is spot on without diverging too much from the original 2D version. It is nice to play my favorite, yes favorite, FF game in 3D.

bosshogx · « **Reply #28 on:** July 26, 2008, 01:23:09 AM »

You know what I've found most shocking is how good the voice acting is. Yeah, I said it, the voice acting is actually good.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #29 on:** July 26, 2008, 04:08:05 AM »

Quote from: bosshogx on July 26, 2008, 01:23:09 AM

You know what I've found most shocking is how good the voice acting is. Yeah, I said it, the voice acting is actually good.

Yeah it is really quite good for the most part (there are a couple characters that are so-so but overall it is quality). Without spoiling anything I really loved what they did with the leviathan scene I remember that from the SNES game but this really was a well made scene.

Peachylala · « **Reply #30 on:** July 26, 2008, 09:14:35 PM »

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix on July 26, 2008, 04:08:05 AM

Quote from: bosshogx on July 26, 2008, 01:23:09 AM
You know what I've found most shocking is how good the voice acting is. Yeah, I said it, the voice acting is actually good.

Yeah it is really quite good for the most part (there are a couple characters that are so-so but overall it is quality). Without spoiling anything I really loved what they did with the leviathan scene I remember that from the SNES game but this really was a well made scene.

FFIV was full of memorable scenes, but the Mist/Bomb Ring scene has got to be the most epic scene ever.

Rydia's scream at the end of that cutscene just sent chills down my spine. The voice acting is that good.

Gylldas · « **Reply #31 on:** July 27, 2008, 12:05:22 AM »

Just got back from vacation and I'm hoping to pick this up tomorrow. This is a version of FF that has eluded me for quite some time...but not much longer!

TheFleece · « **Reply #32 on:** July 28, 2008, 07:55:37 PM »

I never played this before so I didn't know what to expect when I bought it. I'm blown away at the entire thing, I can't put it down.

Galford · « **Reply #33 on:** July 29, 2008, 01:42:02 AM »

How hard is this game?

I've read a couple of reviews saying it's kinda hard.
How hard is it say compared to FF 3 remake on DS?

This game might be my next purchase on the DS after I beat TWEWY.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #34 on:** July 29, 2008, 04:34:05 AM »

Quote from: Galford on July 29, 2008, 01:42:02 AM

How hard is this game?

I've read a couple of reviews saying it's kinda hard.
How hard is it say compared to FF 3 remake on DS?

This game might be my next purchase on the DS after I beat TWEWY.

I'm about 4-5 hrs in and so far it isn't bad if you take some time leveling up. Not sure how it compares to FF3 remake because I've never played it.

bosshogx · « **Reply #35 on:** July 29, 2008, 01:37:39 PM »

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix on July 29, 2008, 04:34:05 AM

I'm about 4-5 hrs in and so far it isn't bad if you take some time leveling up. Not sure how it compares to FF3 remake because I've never played it.

Agreed. Although this game definitely features that random whooping feature that appeared in earlier FF's.

Say for example your walking around a dungeon and get into a battle. The fight starts with you being surprised. One of the Ice Lion things decides to cast Freeze on the party which kills two characters outright (one of which is always the darned healer), brings one character to his knees, and the last character to 50% hp. Then the second Ice Lion thing feels like it has to outdo it's friend and casts Freeze as well, killing off the rest of the party.

Also, it may seem obvious, but never use a Phoenix Down on a dead character unless you have another character ready with a healing item or spell. If not, the computer takes great joy in always targeting your newly raised person. As a bonus, it will use a group damaging spell to make you pull out a few extra hairs from your head.

These sort of thing happens from time to time, but not too often. It can even happen to you if you have been grinding levels and are wearing the best equipment. Sometimes old FF games just thought it was time for you to take a break, but instead of using a quite "Open window with a breeze" picture, they just wipe your party out.

vudu · « **Reply #36 on:** July 29, 2008, 01:56:06 PM »

It's an old school RPG, so it's hard, but not as hard as FF III. If you've only been babied by modern RPGs you might be in for a rude awakening, but if you've played any SNES ones you should feel at home with the difficulty level.

Galford · « **Reply #37 on:** July 29, 2008, 11:39:40 PM »

I've played a lot of SNES RPGs.

This game doesn't sound too hard, it's just money is tight and a want to make sure this game is worth the $40.00 I drop on it?

Is all the extra content from the GBA release in the game?
I've had a hard time getting a confirmation.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #38 on:** July 30, 2008, 12:17:52 AM »

Quote from: Galford on July 29, 2008, 11:39:40 PM

I've played a lot of SNES RPGs.

This game doesn't sound too hard, it's just money is tight and a want to make sure this game is worth the $40.00 I drop on it?

Is all the extra content from the GBA release in the game?
I've had a hard time getting a confirmation.

The extras from FF4 Advance aren't in FF 4 DS. Final Fantasy 4 is a fantastic game whether you play it in 2D (GBA or SNES) or 3d (DS).

vudu · « **Reply #39 on:** July 30, 2008, 02:51:21 PM »

Quote from: Galford on July 29, 2008, 11:39:40 PM

Is all the extra content from the GBA release in the game?
I've had a hard time getting a confirmation.

As FoC said, the extra dungeon on the moon is not in the DS game. (I played it; to be honest, you're not missing anything.)

I am unsure about the party mechanics at the end of the game. On the GBA version, you could choose whatever party members you wanted for the last dungeon. You couldn't in the SNES original.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #40 on:** July 30, 2008, 03:21:26 PM »

Also if your really tight on money now you can find Final Fantasy 4 Advance(GBA) for cheap around like 10 - 20 dollars.

vudu · « **Reply #41 on:** July 30, 2008, 03:27:15 PM »

I'd recommend against the GBA port, actually. There's a few bugs in the ATB system that can really spoil battles.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #42 on:** July 30, 2008, 03:47:19 PM »

There's also a save deleting bug that can be triggered by going through your menus in a certain order.

Galford · « **Reply #43 on:** July 30, 2008, 11:09:48 PM »

Err ok I will avoid the GBA version for now.

Sounds like the DS version might be a nice follow to TWEWY.

vudu · « **Reply #44 on:** July 31, 2008, 02:11:06 PM »

Actually, a great way to follow up TWEWY is to play TWEWY again.

Galford · « **Reply #45 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:46:04 PM »

Ok, I might do that....

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #46 on:** August 03, 2008, 07:21:29 PM »

I found that while the game was much harder than it ever was before, it seemed to peak around halfway through. At the end it wasn't a cake walk, I didn't have any trouble with the optional bosses you fight on the moon that in the previous versions were more of a pain. I like that boss fights now more or less relied on strategy instead of just hitting them until they die.

And the final boss was kind of a cake walk for me, he never got to finish his first set of attacks and skipped the second right to the third and after meteor he was dead. I did manage to steal from him after almost forgetting to.

I am currently outside of the mist cave on my new game + and am missing only the two entries you can't get in your first playthrough from the bestiary.

GregLover5000 · « **Reply #47 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:32:03 AM »

Hell yes! I finally beat this game this morning. I got it for my birthday last November, so it only took me a year. How you reviewers blow through these games in a matter of days utterly escapes me.

This is the first FF game I ever played, and damn, was I humbled. I had put it away for months after getting to the moon (the first trip there) and having my ass served to me endlessly by those fruit-flavored space jellyfish. And then it sat on my shelf, taunting me. And then began... the grinding. Good God, so much grinding.

As an FF n00b, I've gotta ask... how did anyone ever get through these games back in the day without an online walkthrough? Seriously: hidden paths, backtracking, teleports, 10 million enemies, each with different weaknesses, bosses with ridiculous insta-kill powers...

Hmmm, what next? I have FF V and VI for Gameboy Advance on hand, as well as TWEWY sitting on the shelf. (Maybe around 2015 I'll pick up a used PS3 and FFXIII.)

jakeOSX · « **Reply #48 on:** November 12, 2009, 12:09:57 PM »

greg, we played it. a lot. there were guide books, but mostly we played it and talked about it. i beat ff4 on the snes probably 4 times, (ff 1 way way more than that).

oh and twewy is fantastic game. even if it gets suddenly hard at boss time.... *grrr...*

vudu · « **Reply #49 on:** November 12, 2009, 01:47:41 PM »

We were kids with a lot of time on our hands and no money to buy new games. It was okay if a game took forever because we didn't have anything better to do.

noname2200 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 19, 2009, 01:15:27 PM »

So what're the best skills to assign to party members, so as to make the third playthrough an Ultimate Playthrough?

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