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5/22 - The Basic Rules
5/29 - What is a Final Smash?
5/30 - Moving and Shooting
6/06 - You must recover!
7/05 - Smash Attacks
7/09 - Standard Combos
7/26 - Footstool Jump (Bounce off enemy heads)
8/16 - Tether Recovery (ZSS + Link + ?)
8/28 - Four Special Move Types (Meta Knight's move-set)
8/30 - Gliding (Pit, Meta Knight, Charizard)
10/04 - Shielding & Dodging (It's back, no surprise there!)
10/17 - How to Use the Wii Remote (Bu...But there's not enough buttons!)
11/02 - On-Screen Appearances (Intros return!)
11/07 - Grab and Throw (Shield, then attack to grab!)
11/13 - Three Different Taunts (Link's crappy Melee taunt is GONE!)
11/21 - Color Changes (COLORS!)
11/23 - Charged Special Moves (Charge for massive damage!)
12/05 - The Battle for the Smash Ball (There it is! Get it! Get it!)




6/08 - Four Kinds of Control - Wiimote/+Nunchuk/Classic/Gamecube Controllers
6/28 - Names - Custom controls attached to player profile
7/20 - This World... - ??? (Adventure Mode?)
8/03 - What is the Subspace Emissary? (ADVENTURE MODE!)
8/15 - Stickers (New Collectible)
8/21 - The Subspace Army (Hey, hey, I see R.O.B. and Petey!)
8/24 - Petey Piranha *Boss music*
9/03 - Pit's Descent (Adventure Mode cutscene)
9/07 - MY MUSIC - NEW COLLECTIBLE; CHOOSE YOUR BRAWLING SONGS!  MULTIPLE SONGS PER STAGE!
9/13 - Special Brawl (Edit the rules of battle as you see fit...)
9/18 - WI-FI CONNECTION (ONLINE PLAY CONFIRMED)
9/19 - The Enemies From Subspace (Poppant is the best enemy ever!  Extra-large pants?  Candy?  WIN!)
9/24 - TROPHIES (Ooccoo! Tingle!)
9/28 - Tourney (Sakurai is a jerk! ='D)
10/02 - Snake Joins the Brawl! (Mario VS Solid Snake)
10/05 - TEAM (Co-op in Adventure Mode!)
10/10 - Sonic Joins the Brawl! (The Nintendo/Sega rivalry can be relived!)
10/10 - Nintendo Conference Fall 2007 Movie (My pants, they are wet!)
10/12 - TAKING SNAPSHOTS (Snapshots without a Camera Mode!  WiFi and SD Card save!)
10/16 - STADIUM: Home-Run Contest (It's back and better than before!)
10/23 - Donkey Kong Makes His Stand (Adventure Mode cutscene)
10/24 - STADIUM: Target Smash! + Replay Save (5 maps + 3 minutes of saved replay)
10/29 - STAGE BUILDER (BUILD YOUR OWN MAP!  SEND AND HAVE SENT TO YOU!)
10/30 - Classic (Classic Mode is back, of course!)
11/05 - Fox's Misfortune (Fox - 1, Rayquaza - 0)
11/14 - Handicap (0% HP is for punks...)
11/16 - Spectator (Gamble all your coins away!)
11/20 - Training (Practice, practice, practice!)
11/26 - Controls (You use a controller to play the game!)
11/27 - Widescreen Support (For HD fans)
11/29 - Events (Event Mode returns!)
12/03 - Friend List (Hahaha, Nate is awesome...)
12/07 - With Anyone/Basic Brawl (CPU replaces Player on drop-out!)
12/11 - Rotation (Sharing is good!)
12/12 - Options (Lots and lots!)
12/17 - Co-op Events (Event Mode & Target Smash Co-op!)
12/21 - Subspace Emissary Movie (Mmmm...Epic...)
12/24 - Overalls Wario (Nothing beats the classic!)
12/26 - Trophy Stands (Make trophies out of enemies!  RAYQUAZA!)
12/27 - Coin Launcher (Shoot coins, get trophies!  WATCH OUT FOR MISSLES!)
12/28 - Share (Share snaps with your friends!)
1/08 - STADIUM: Multi-Man Brawl (Introducing the Fighting Alloy Team!  Co-op and online!)
1/14 - Challenges (Find out what to do to get your goods!)
1/18 - Sticker Power-ups (Stickers are useful!?  Power up your SSE Brawler!)
1/24 - Test Battle: Tokyo VS Kyoto (Testing online baaaattle!  Check out the JP Site for another clip!)
1/25 - Masterpieces (Play demos of classic Nintendo games!)
1/28 - Vault (Here's the main menu again!)
1/30 - Brawl (Starting roster!)
1/31 - Game Mode Introduction Movie (Game mode showcase!)
2/08 - Enemies and Allies (Marth and Metaknight join forces!)




5/23 - Mario (The Plumber)
5/23 - Link (The Chosen Hero)
5/25 - Pit (The Angel)
6/07 - Pikachu (The Electric Mouse)
6/07 - Kirby (The Pink Blob Who Eats All In His Path)
6/11 - Fox McCloud (The Mercenary Vulpes In Tight Pants)
6/15 - Samus Aran (The Bounty Hunter)
6/20 - Wario (The Minigame Fiend)
6/25 - Zelda (The Triforce of Wisdom)
7/03 - Bowser (The King of Koopas)
7/12 - Donkey Kong (The King of Swing)
7/19 - Zero Suit Samus (The Flesh Under the Armor)
7/24 - Yoshi (The Dinosaur)
8/01 - Ike (The Radiant Lord)
8/13 - Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard) (The Champion)
8/17 - Peach (The Damsel in Distress)
8/22 - Diddy Kong (The Sidekick)
9/05 - Meta Knight (The Anti-Hero)
9/14 - Ice Climbers (The Eskimo Combo)
9/21 - Snake (The Commando)
10/01 - Lucas (The Psychic Stick-User)
10/10 - Sonic (The Hedgehog)
10/25 - King Dedede (The King of Dream Land)
1/09 - Pikmin & Olimar (The Scavenger)
1/16 - Sheik (The Masquerade)
2/01 - Ness (The Psychic Bat-User)
2/07 - Marth (The Original Lord)

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Jigglypuff (The Lullaby)
Lucario (The Fighting Steel)
Falco (The Rebel)
Wolf (The One-Eyed Lupus)
Toon Link (The Wind Waker)
Ganondorf (The King of Evil)
Robot (The Accessory)
Captain Falcon (The Racer)
Mr. Game & Watch (The Classic)
Luigi (The Green Guy)


~Count: 35, not including ZSS/Sheik~




5/28 - Pit - (B) Palutena Arrow ~ (Up+B) Wings of Icarus
6/21 - Fox McCloud - (B) Blaster ~ (Down+B) Reflector
6/29 - Wario - (Down+B) Wario Waft ~ (Over+B) Wario Chopper
8/07 - Ike - (B) Eruption ~ (Up+B) Aether
8/13 - Pok?mon Trainer - (Down+B) Pok?mon Change
8/20 - Link - (B) Hero's Bow ~ (Up+B) Spin Attack ~ (Down+B) Bomb ~ (Over+B) Gale Boomerang
8/28 - Metaknight - (B) Mach Tornado ~ (Up+B) Shuttle Loop ~ (Down+B) Dimensional Cape ~ (Over+B) Triple Dash
8/29 - Pokemon Trainer - There is no way I'm typing up 6 moves, it'd be messy... =3
9/04 - Diddy Kong - (B) Peanut Popgun ~ (Up + B) Rocketbarrel Boost
9/06 - Mario - (Down + B) F.L.U.D.D. (Mario Tornado now aerial Down+A)
9/21 - Snake - (B) Hand Grenade ~ (Up+B) Cypher ~ (Over+B) Remote Missile
10/08 - Zero Suit Samus - (B) Paralyzer ~ (Up+B) Plasma Wire ~ (Over+B) Plasma Whip
10/11 - Sonic - (Up+B) Spring Jump ~ (Down+B) Spin Charge ~ (Over+B) Spin Dash
10/26 - King Dedede - (Up+B) Super Dedede Jump ~ (Down+B) Jet Hammer ~ (Over+B) Waddle Dee Toss
11/08 - Lucas - (B) PK Freeze ~ (Up+B) PK Thunder ~ (Down+B) PSI Magnet ~ (Over+B) PK Fire
12/20 - Kirby - (B) Inhale
1/11 - Pikmin & Olimar - (B) Pikmin Pluck ~ (Up+B) Pikmin Chain ~ (Down+B) Pikmin Order ~ (Over+B) Pikmin Throw




5/29 - Mario - Mario Finale
6/18 - Link - Triforce Slash
6/19 - Pikachu - Volt Tackle
7/04 - Bowser - Giga Bowser Transformation
7/18 - Samus - Zero Laser
7/30 - Donkey Kong - Konga Beat
8/09 - Pit - Palutena's Army
8/23 - Yoshi - Super Dragon
9/25 - Diddy Kong - Rocketbarrel Barrage
9/27 - Pokemon Trainer - Triple Finish (Hydro Pump, Solar Beam, Fire Blast)
10/04 - Fox - Landmaster
10/09 - Kirby - Cook Kirby
10/19 - Peach - Peach Blossom
11/01 - Meta Knight - Galaxia Darkness
11/12 - Ike - Great Aether
11/19 - Ice Climbers - Iceberg
11/23 - Lucas - PK Starstorm
11/27 - Wario - Wario-Man
12/06 - King Dedede - Waddle Dee Army
12/25 - Sonic - Super Sonic
1/10 - Snake - Grenade Launcher
1/17 - Pikmin & Olimar - End of Day
1/21 - Zelda/Sheik - Light Arrow
2/08 - Zero Suit Samus - Power Suit Samus




5/22 - Battlefield
6/01 - Delfino Plaza (Mario Sunshine)
6/12 - Yoshi's Island
6/22 - Lylat Cruise (Star Fox)
7/06 - Bridge of Eldin (Twilight Princess)
7/13 - Smashville (Animal Crossing)
7/23 - Rumble Falls (Donkey Kong Jungle Beat)
7/25 - Skyworld (Kid Icarus)
8/02 - Castle Siege (Fire Emblem)
8/31 - WarioWare
9/06 - Pokemon Stadium 2
9/12 - Battleship Halberd (Kirby Super Star)
10/02 - Shadow Moses Island (Metal Gear Solid)
10/15 - New Pork City (Mother 3)
10/22 - PictoChat (Nintendo DS)
10/31 - The Summit (Ice Climber)
11/09 - Norfair (Metroid)
11/30 - Hyrule Temple (Melee Stage) (Zelda II: Adventure of Link)
12/13 - Mario Circuit (Mario Kart)
12/18 - Frigate Orpheon (Metroid Prime)
1/07 - Yoshi's Island (Melee Stage) (Super Mario World)
1/07 - Corneria (Melee Stage) (Star Fox 64)
1/07 - Onett (Melee Stage) (Earthbound/Mother 2)
1/07 - Brinstar (Melee Stage) (Metroid)
1/07 - Rainbow Ride (Melee Stage) (Super Mario 64)
1/15 - Distant Planet (Pikmin)
1/23 - Mushroomy Kingdom (Super Mario Bros.)
2/04 - Port Town Aero Dive (F-Zero GX)
2/05 - Final Destination

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Mario Bros. Arcade
Tetra's Pirate Ship
Green Hill Zone
Luigi's Mansion
Electroplankton
Big Blue (Melee Stage)
Pokemon Stadium (Melee Stage)
Green Greens (Melee Stage)
Jungle Japes (Melee Stage)
Flat Land II
Spear Pillar (Pokemon Diamond/Pearl)
Donkey Kong Arcade


~Count: 41~




5/24 - Gooey Bomb - New Item - SSBB Exclusive
5/29 - Smash Ball - New Item - SSBB Exclusive
5/31 - Cracker Launcher - New Item - SSBB Exclusive
6/05 - Poke Ball - Return Item - Pokemon
6/14 - Crates/Barrels - Return Item - SSB Exclusive
6/27 - Banana Peel - New Item - SSBB Exclusive
7/02 - Assist Trophy - New Item - SSBB Exclusive
7/11 - Bumper - Return Item (Original SSB) - SSB Exclusive
7/31 - Pitfall - New Item - Animal Crossing
8/06 - Smoke Ball - New Item - SSBB Exclusive
8/10 - Franklin Badge - New Item - Mother (Earthbound) series
8/27 - Superspicy Curry - New Item - Kirby's Dream Land
9/07 - CD - New Item - SSBB Exclusive (Collect to add to your music collection!)
9/17 - Golden Hammer - New Item - Wrecking Crew
11/06 - Beam Sword, Fire Flower, Freezie, Home-Run Bat, Party Ball, Super Mushroom - Returning Items
11/20 - Smart Bomb - New Item - Star Fox
12/19 - Team Healer - New Item - SSBB Exclusive
12/28 - Dragoon - New Item - Kirby Air Ride

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Super Scope
Lip's Stick
Hammer
Mr. Saturn
Warp Star
Paper Fan
Poison Mushroom
Food
Maximum Tomato
Heart Container (Twilight Princess version)
Starman
Motion Sensor Bomb
Capsule
Star Rod
Bob-omb
Ray Gun
Green Shell
New Item - Unira (Clu Clu Land)(?)
New Item - Stop Watch
New Item - Soccer Ball
New Item - Lightning Bolt
New Item - Sandbag
New Item - Time Bomb (?)
New Item - Spike Bomb (?)
New Item - Deku Nut





07/02 - Samurai Goro - F-Zero
07/10 - Dr. Wright - SimCity
07/27 - Knuckle Joe - Kirby Super Star
08/14 - Devil - Devil World
08/28 - Andross - Star Fox
09/11 - Lyn - Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken
09/26 - Mr. Resetti - Animal Crossing
10/03 - Excitebike - Excitebike
10/03 - Lakitu - Super Mario Bros.
10/18 - Little Mac - Punch Out!
11/07 - Gray Fox - Metal Gear Solid
11/22 - Saki Amamiya - Sin & Punishment: Successor to the Earth
12/14 - Waluigi - Mario Tennis 64
12/14 - Stafy - Densetsu no Stafy [Japan-Only]
02/06 - Metroid, Tingle, Kat & Ana, Jeff, Helirin, Jill & Drill Dozer, Nintendogs, Hammer Bros.

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Orange Star Army Sprites
Barbara the Bat (Jam With the Band)
Isaac





6/05 - Groudon - New Pokemon - Pokemon Ruby
7/17 - Deoxys - New Pokemon - Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
9/10 - Munchlax - New Pokemon - Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
9/20 - Piplup - New Pokemon - Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
10/17 - Meowth - New Pokemon - Pokemon Red/Blue
12/04 - Suicune, Lugia, Entei, Staryu, Bellossum, Ho-Oh, Wobbuffet, Togepi, Snorlax, Celebi, Mew - Returning Pokemon
12/10 - Bonsly - New Pokemon - Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
1/22 - Manaphy - New Pokemon - Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

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Kyogre (New Pokemon)
Torchic (New Pokemon)
Latios/Latias (New Pokemon)
Gardevoir (New Pokemon)
Metagross (New Pokemon)
Regigigas (New Pokemon)
Garchomp (New Pokemon)
Castform (New Pokemon)
Shaymin (New Pokemon)
Pachirisu (New Pokemon)
Cherimu (New Pokemon)
Onix (Return Pokemon)
Chikorita (Return Pokemon)
Goldeen (Return Pokemon)
Electrode (Return Pokemon)



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5/22 - Battlefield Theme - SSBM Menu 1 - Motoi Sakuraba & Hirokazu Ando
6/04 - Yoshi's Story Credits - Yoshi's Story - Masafumi Takada & Kazumi Totaka
6/13 - Ridley's Battle Theme - Super Metroid - Yusuke Takahama & Minako Hamano
6/26 - Legend of Zelda: OoT Medley - Ocarina of Time - Michiko Naruke & Koji Kondo
7/16 - Space Armada - Star Fox - Kenji Ito & Hajime Hirasawa
8/08 - The Underworld - Kid Icarus - Shogo Sakai & Tanaka Hirokazu
8/23 - Go K.K. Rider! - Animal Crossing - Keigo Ozaki & Toru Minegishi
9/07 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Main Theme - SSBB - Shogo Sakai & Nobuo Uematsu
9/07 - Pokemon Stadium/Evolution - Pokemon - Kenichi Okuma & Junichi Masuda
9/21 - MGS4 Love Theme - Metal Gear Solid 4 - Akihiro Honda & Nobuko Toda
10/09 - Ashley's Theme - WarioWare - Tomoko Sasaki & Masaru Tajima (Japanese Version)
11/05 - Fire Emblem Theme - Shogo Sakai & Yuka Tsujiyoko
11/15 - Meta Knight's Revenge - Kirby Super Star - Noriyuki Iwadare & Jun Ishikawa
11/27 - Donkey Kong - Donkey Kong - Hirokazu Tanaka & Yukio Kaneoka
11/30 - Great Temple/Temple - Zelda II: Adventure of Link - Shogo Sakai & Akito Nakatsuka
12/05 - X: Tunnel Scene - X [Japan-Only] - Yusuke Takahama & Kazumi Totaka
12/12 - Ice Climber - Ice Climber - Toshiyuki Sudo & Akito Nakatsuka
12/18 - Porky's Theme - Mother 3 - Shogo Sakai
12/25 - Angel Island Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - Jun Senoue & SEGA
1/09 - Pikmin: World Map - Pikmin - Yasunori Mitsuda & Hajime Wakai
1/23 - Super Mario Bros: Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. - Koji Kondo
1/29 - First Songs in My Music (Saying "a crapload" is an understatement...)

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Title - Legend of Zelda
Main Theme - Legend of Zelda
The Dark World - Link to the Past
The Hidden Mountain & Forests - Link to the Past(?)
Delfino Plaza - Super Mario Sunshine
Castle Music / Fortress Boss - Super Mario 3 or Super Mario World
Ending / Title Screen - Super Mario World
Main Theme - New Super Mario Bros.
Live and Learn - Sonic Adventure
PictoChat - Nintendo DS Hardware
Mii Channel - Nintendo Wii Hardware
Wii Shop Channel - Nintendo Wii Hardware
Brain Age: Train Your Brain In Minutes A Day
Bramble Blast (Stickerbrush Symphony) - Donkey Kong Country 2
Snowman - Mother
The Roost - Animal Crossing: Wild World
Pokemon Main Theme - Pokemon Red/Blue
Wild Pokemon Battle - Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
The Kingdom of Bern - Fire Emblem
Animal Crossing Main Theme
Balloon Trip - Balloon Fight
WarioWare Main Theme
Brinstar - Metroid
Samus's Theme - Super Metroid
Metroid Ending Theme
Great Bay - Majora's Mask
Athletic - Yoshi's Island
Frozen Hillside - Kirby Air Ride
Gourmet Race - Kirby Super Star
Clu Clu Land Theme



PLEASE KEEP DISCUSSION TO THE CURRENT SMASHDATE OR SPECULATION ABOUT FUTURE SMASHDATES!
(That means keep your garbage, off-topic rants about Yoshi's tail being too short or Samus' breasts being too big out, thanks...)


Original topic can be found here...

And if there's anything I'm missing, please feel free to PM me or leave a reply in the topic... =)                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
« Last Edit: February 16, 2008, 11:12:53 PM by Bill Aurion »
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A continuation of this thread because it broke...
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I'm the THIRD reply!
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Offline that Baby guy

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So now that we're nearing the game's release, does anyone think it's possible for information on the starting roster to be an update?

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Sure, why not? =)

I've gone and made headers for the list, which makes things a lot easier to find...
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hey bill you forgot to add snakes final smash!
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And so ends the tale of the original Smashdate thread, the most mega of all mega threads.
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Originally posted by: bigbang24
hey bill you forgot to add snakes final smash!

Ah crap, when the thread broke it must not have been taking my edits...Well it's fixed now!
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You list the banana peel as a Mario Kart item, and while I agree that it ought to be, it's worth noting that Sakurai seems to have intended it as a generic item inspired by slapstick comedy:
a) While Mario Circuit stage uses the Mario mushroom icon, the Banana Peel item uses the generic Smash Bros icon.
b) Sakurai's description of the Banana Peel makes no mention of Mario Kart, while most item descriptions mention the game their from.
c) The Smash Bros item doesn't have eyes, while the Mario Kart version almost always does.


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Damn, if we had kept just one Smash Bros thread, dating back to the old old one (before wandering's even), we'd have easily hit a NWR record 10,000 replies.
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I didn't even realize Bill was updating the first post, oops...
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Bill you should add the Pikmin stage to the list.
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That's the DK Jungle beat stage.
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That's not the Pikmin stage, that's Rumble falls. Notice the green vines in the background.

EDIT: S_B beat me to it
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Quote

Originally posted by: LuigiHann
You list the banana peel as a Mario Kart item, and while I agree that it ought to be, it's worth noting that Sakurai seems to have intended it as a generic item inspired by slapstick comedy:
a) While Mario Circuit stage uses the Mario mushroom icon, the Banana Peel item uses the generic Smash Bros icon.
b) Sakurai's description of the Banana Peel makes no mention of Mario Kart, while most item descriptions mention the game their from.
c) The Smash Bros item doesn't have eyes, while the Mario Kart version almost always does.

Yeah, I realized this a while back, but it just seems so wrong for it to be generic, so denial GET!

I guess I'll change it then...
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In the latest demo playing at the World Hobby Fairy, 16 characters are playable, including Pokemon Trainer (whose name is shortened to "P.Trainer") and King Dedede (shortened to "Dedede")...

Zelda is obviously not included, with the others missing being Olimar, Snake, Sonic, Lucas, Pit, and Ice Climbers...  

~ Smash Balls can be turned off in the Item Select (not a huge surprise)
~ New Pokemon: Shaymin
~ Pokemon Trainer doesn't appear in the background of some stages (like Delfino)...
~ New Assist Trophy: Muddy Mole
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Wario and Kirby were added, as well.  It's not certain if this is a demo or the final version, but the internet is buzzing on it likely being a demo.

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Muddy Mole AT, WOOT!

With him and Tingle as ATs and Petey Piranha as a boss, there's three characters off the list of potentially playable which I was horrified might show up as playable.
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And Birdo! Don't forget Birdo! Oh and Waluigi too.

But seriously, what's your beef with him? I checked his info and the worst I thought of him was that he would've been a Bomberman clone.

His game was released in the US too.

Even if his game is EXTREMELY obscure I would've welcomed his addition because he would've been interesting.

But he's an AT so there's no point in arguing.
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Muddy Mole AT, WOOT!

With him and Tingle as ATs and Petey Piranha as a boss, there's three characters off the list of potentially playable which I was horrified might show up as playable.

What?  Muddy Moles chances of ever being playable were exactly .00000000001%.  He's from a very obscure game that bombed in every single country it was released.  Not to mention nobody at Nintendo has ever even recognized it's existence.  Just the fact they made him an Assist Trophy is a miracle.
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Here's a crapload of new info from the World Hobby Fair demo:
# Link tried to FS an opponent who had a Starman and it failed. One time during Kirby's FS, Starmen were launched from the pot. The enemies used the Starmen and ended up KO'ing Kirby.

# Waddle Dees are better than turnips in terms of knockback and damage. Dedede's Suction spits out fast, but not very far and has low damage.

# Samus cannot missle cancel. Peach can float cancel.

# More reports of Dedede being very slow with fast atacks, but a conflicting report of his Waddle Dees being useful and spammable.

# More PT Impressions: Charizard's has multiple jumps and his Fly is powerful. He flies straight up and burns anything around him. His flamethrower is identical to Bowser's Fire Breath. Squirtle's Water Gun is chargable. Ivysaur is immobile while using Bullet Seed. PT's FInal Smash is very powerful.

# The PictoChat stage sometimes has impenetrable walls and can trap you on a side of the stage.

# DK's Final Smash used correctly can take up 90% of a stage. His FS was originally thought to be ineffective.

# Some people worry that the Smash Ball occurs too much.

# Rumors of Black Charizard. Some suggest a very dark Chrarizard that is near-black.

# PT Impressions: Squirtle has fast attacks, but no reach. Ivysaur is the more balanced of the Pokemon. Charizard is heavy, slow-medium speed, and attacks using claws and tail mostly.

# Pokemon trainer's starting Pokemon is random. So far, it's unconfirmed if the starter can be selectable like Shiek was for Zelda in Melee.

# Dragoon does 42% damage. It KO'd Mario at 0%.

# Lots of Invincibility frames when switching Pokemon.

# Dedede's Suction is beastly because of it's force and strength.

# Ike is being called a noob killer. His Side Special charged can KO Kirby and Meta Knight at 35%. He is being called "too powerful".

# Meta Knight is a good beginner character.

# Ike Impressions: Eruption has a lot of range and can be used in the air. His Final Smash has more range if you "charge it up"?

# Ashley Deconfirmed! She appears in the WarioWare stage. So does 9-Volt and Jimmy.
# Kirby Impressions: Final Cutter has been changed once again. More confirmation of Kirby sucking up items.

# Attendee's Opinion: Pictochat music was bothering.

# Dedede Impressions: Attacks are fast, but hammer is sluggish. As stated before, his Up SPecial has good knockback, but is completely vertical, like Ike's.

# Pokemon Trainer Impressions: Takes about three seconds to change Pokemon. Colors: Red, Green, Blue, and Black & White (original GB version). PT's Pokemon do not have accessories like hats, glasses, ect.

# First reports of an attendee: He writes about Samus, but adds nothing new to what we already knew. You can't turn into ZSamus at the start of the match at all.

# Now that the event is over, expect lots of media, and some new info to be posted from attendees.

# We have the Stage Select Screen image posted on the homepage.

# Conflicting News: Apparently, a Nintendo rep has confirmed that Brawl is coming out on the 24th in Japan, however the Brawl pamphlets handed out show the price of the game, but no release date. (According to the Japanese blog, this seems to frighten him, but I doubt it means a thing.)

# Muddy Mole is an assist trophy. (Not Monty Mole) Muddy Mole is a character from "Mole Mania", a GB game that Sakurai adores.

# People are under the impression that Meta Knight is very good and Dedede is not. (This is only first impressions that are hours old and opinions, keep in mind)

# King Dedede has the same voice as his anime counterpart. (Japanese voice. Not 4kids voice)

# 70-80 minute wait to play a match.

# UPDATE: Female Pokemon Trainer news is confirmed FALSE.

# Ike Victory Pose: "I only fight for those I protect" (May be off due to translation issues)

# Onett impressions: Virtually no changes made.

# PictoChat impressions: Some are negative, some are "better than expected."

# PLAYABLE STAGES:Battlefield, Battleship Halbred, Norfair, Hyrule Temple, Onett, WarioWare, PictoChat, Bridge of Eldin, Delfino Plaza, Yoshi's Island, Smashville, Castle Seige, Pokemon Stadium 2, Skyworld, Lylat Cruise

# Dragoon was seen as an item. There are also a few new items such as a time bomb and spike bomb.

# Classic Controller and Wiimote are available controller choices.

# Meta Knight: No strong attacks. He's the kind of character that relies on multiple hits. FS is very strong and has a wide hitbox. Not much use for gliding. Taunt: Flaps his wings and does a "warp" or some sort.

# Diddy Kong: He's very fast and can "put hurt on you." He has combo attacks, similar to Meta Knight.

# NO MORE DELAYS: According to someone to who asked a Nintendo rep there: Brawl is confirmed to be released on the 24th. (Japan)

# Pokemon Trainer disappears on certain stages. He was not present on Delfino Plaza.

# New Pokemon: Shaymin

# UNCONFIRMED: Pokemon trainer's starting appearance is him running to a stop and taunting.

# Item Selection is ON. Smash Balls can be turned off.

# King Dedede has a pink costume.

# Dedede is a heavy, slow, powerful character. He has 4 mid-air jumps (5 total jumps). His Waddle Dee throwing attack is weak. His Up Special has good knockback.

# Dedede's starting appearance is the Waddle Dee Shrine seen on the Dojo.

# Pokemon Trainer and King Dedede Playable! They appear as "Dedede" and "P. Trainer"

# Confirmed: The Brawl game available is a demo, however, it is a new one.

# Confirmed: Photography IS allowed, but only in certain areas.
Pedro Hernandez
NWR Staff Writer