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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2007, 07:43:09 AM »
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I'll admit having a poor review score when your game is plastered all over the site in ads is rather embarassing for Eidos.  But then maybe they should make better games.  Videogame companies always act like their games are perfect.  Eidos should be firing those involved with the game itself since they're truly at fault for this.  If they made a better game this wouldn't have happened.


My money is on management being at fault even though they'd fire the grunts.

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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2007, 07:59:26 AM »
I forgot to add, Gertsmann was a terrible reviewer with little to no consistency so I really don't care.

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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2007, 08:10:33 AM »
It's not about the reviewer, it's about the precedence it sets.
Just some random guy on the internet who has a different opinion of games than you.

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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2007, 08:17:38 AM »
If this was allowed to happen, then GameSpot in its entirety is suspect for its past decade or so of existence.
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2007, 10:07:39 AM »
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It's not about the reviewer, it's about the precedence it sets.


Methinks that the precedence will be short-lived. As Penny Arcade demonstrated, some people in the industry can actually say "suck my left nut" when a publisher tries a stunt like this.

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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2007, 10:35:45 AM »
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It's not about the reviewer, it's about the precedence it sets.

It sets a damn friggin good one. Overweight lazy nerds looking for attention dont deserve a voice that loud.

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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2007, 10:42:08 AM »
I wonder more and more if there is more to this story. Yeah the timing may have been crappy but that stuff happens all the time in business. Sometimes a company find any excuse to kick someone out if there has been tension. Should be interesting to see how it turns out though.
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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2007, 12:12:38 PM »
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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2007, 12:17:37 PM »
For those that are interested here is the video review that was removed I do find it funny though, I couldn't help but think of GTA when he was discussing all the flaws, yet that series gets praised like crazy!
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« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2007, 01:59:07 PM »
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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2007, 02:28:03 PM »
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Gamespot should have the balls to tell Eidos "if we fire this guy and it gets out it will kill our credibility with readers and we'll lose traffic as a result".


Some are expressing their dissapointment.

Nearly 24 hours later, I'm not fuming/foaming at the mouth, but still have a bad taste in said mouth.

I remember a few years back that some Driver title was given some mass hype at GS with some weekly trailers/montages. The title came out, it got trashed, and life went on. No jobs were lost, the publisher didn't throw a fit, and that was that.  

Just because you sell ads and give some exclusive access doesn't mean the reviewer have to kowtow to what they want. In the end, if the final product doesn't hold up according to the reviewer, than maybe they should have considered better budgeting in the title aside from marketing and advertising...

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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2007, 02:38:08 PM »
Y'all catch the rumored anonymous Gamestop poster spilling the beans? I read about it at Kotaku.

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A commenter on sister site Valleywag, who claims to be a current Gamespot employee, wrote anonymously about the current situation surrounding rumors of former editorial director Jeff Gerstmann's termination. The new user, known as "gamespot", who does a fairly solid impression of a bitter employee of CNet, if nothing else, provides possible insight into the emotional state at Gamespot's editorial staff.


Drama, oooh boy.

Apparently, they fired him after all the big games came out for reviews because now no one's writing any reviews in portest, and the writing team vets every signle piece that they put out, so for Gerstmann alone to be fired when they all vetted the review is very shocking and suggests that editorial policy was ultimately sound since the other writers approved his reviews...
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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2007, 02:41:00 PM »
I am extremely leery of taking posts from supposed "staff" as fact. Should be interesting to see what happens though, if anything.
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« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2007, 03:45:33 PM »
Seems very fake, bleach shattered blade got a poor review, yet it got the same treatment on gamefaqs and Gamespot as this game

I think its just a troll story, baised after penny-arcades pathetic attack on IGN.

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RE: Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2007, 07:51:51 PM »
Gerstmann and Gamespot always seemed like they waited to see what IGN, 1up, etc scored a triple A game and knocked a few points off of their own rating to get some negative attention page views.

I like to draw analogies between Jeff Gerstmann and Neo Nazi Skinheads. I don't like his reviews, but I defend his right to publish them.

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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2007, 11:59:16 PM »
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I like to draw analogies between Jeff Gerstmann and Neo Nazi Skinheads. I don't like his reviews, but I defend his right to publish them.


However, do you think he has a right to get paid while doing so? Looking at that video review I wouldn't be sure I'd want to pay that guy money either, it seemed very superficial and you could probably recycle 70-80% of it to apply to another game you want panned.

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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2007, 02:37:34 AM »
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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2007, 06:27:53 AM »
Joystiq has more news from the web, including comments from current and ex gamestop staffers.

More swirling speculation report by Joystiq, like the rumors that another Gamespot Staff, Tim Tracy, is also no longer with the company...
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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2007, 06:28:56 AM »
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I like to draw analogies between Jeff Gerstmann and Neo Nazi Skinheads. I don't like his reviews, but I defend his right to publish them.


However, do you think he has a right to get paid while doing so? Looking at that video review I wouldn't be sure I'd want to pay that guy money either, it seemed very superficial and you could probably recycle 70-80% of it to apply to another game you want panned.


In my opinion, ALL viedo reviews seem superficial. The IGN Lair one was almost as shoddy as the game, in my opinion.
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RE: Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2007, 07:23:16 AM »
GameStop is the crappy store that sells games.
GameSpot is the crappy website that shrills games.
Just some random guy on the internet who has a different opinion of games than you.

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« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2007, 08:24:09 AM »
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In my opinion, ALL viedo reviews seem superficial.


ouch
Have you ever watched any of mine?
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« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2007, 08:31:39 AM »
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RE:Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2007, 10:18:29 AM »
I've never been one to take ex-staffers or ex-workers at their word, because well, they are ex-staffers and workers! I wonder if anything will be really proven or if this will just die down.
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RE: Gamespot Editor fired for 'unfavorable' review?
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2007, 09:00:15 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2007, 07:23:57 AM »
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In my opinion, ALL viedo reviews seem superficial.


ouch
Have you ever watched any of mine?


Hmm... come to think of it the Gametrailer ones actually seem pretty well done.... link me a good one wouldja?
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