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Perhaps this is the lapsed gamer in me, but I read through that article twice and the only coherent points in there are:

- Don't expect a NXE-style UI overhaul between now and the Wii2
- Nintendo are making homebrew gamers' lives miserable.

All of which are bloody obvious. How did this get dragged out to three pages?

Of course Nintendo are going to be limited by their current hardware (and to a lesser extent, the system architecture). Its closer to an embedded architecture than it is to a general-purpose architecture like the 360 and the PS3 (don't play the Von Neumann card, you know what I mean), so they are working with a stricter set of constraints.

Sure, I was as pissed off as the next guy about their storage solution (treat it like a fridge?) but its not suddenly going to be "External Devices Free-For-All" day for Wii gamers - you know as well as I do that Ninty are stubborn about making changes - see 64DD, Twilight Princess - no matter what the backlash from the hardcore core whatever name you call them now gamers.

Other complaints from here (I can't be bothered quoting or even reading this whole thing, so if these are misguided or just plain wrong, troll back):
- The "Sony and Microsoft fighting for the living room space" by pushing out updates to the OS and UI, let them continue this silly trend. The only people who care about stuff like that are the current owners, and they're already a captive audience. I'm not buying a 360 because they suddenly added the ability to create an avatar - there's free MMOs for people who need that sort of fix.

- No way to apply features like Wii Speak support retroactively to games? So what - they'll probably release another one with slightly upgraded visuals, slap a year on the end, and get you to pay the same price again in 12 months. Oh, you didn't want to third parties to succeed - you just wanted more for free...

- Patching games after release - what happened to testing the thing before going gold? That how it happened in the old days. What? Games are more complex, bigger budgets, tighter deadlines, and now Dyack is chasing you with a blunt instrument? Well whose fault is that? I didn't ask for a mini-movie in the middle of each level. Get back to work! I'm fine with the "improvements to netcode" class of patches, but if its a game that can be played through in its entirety on ONE system, there is no excuse for a good testing process.

- The homebrew/piracy scene - stop complaining. You are free to do whatever you want with the machine, but you aren't entitled to an easy ride. If they're obfuscating the system to your hindrance, that's their choice. Why not put two Gamecubes together with duct tape and pretend to take that apart instead? You can break it to your hearts content and then throw it out when you realise you don't know how to put it back together again.

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General Chat / Re: Game Over: One final rant...
« on: January 25, 2009, 04:35:09 AM »
Thought I’d throw in a few thoughts about this – I’ve basically reverted to lurker status these days aside from the occasional troll post, so I’m not really up on recent forum events – because it seems like there’s a few issues arising from Bill’s farewell.

I'm in contact with Bill regularly so this isn't a farewell post for him.

Regarding Ian: Deguello and Berto have said it much more eloquently than I could ever attempt to. I will throw in a term that sums up my interactions with Ian over the years. When someone decides to contribute to a conversation by providing an incoherent argument or irrelevant remark, we refer to that as “swinging trashbags”. Everyone knows when a guy is swinging trashbags, and his behaviour is not endearing to the group or beneficial to the conversation.

I feel like Ian’s been swinging trashbags around the forum for years. Sure, he’s got a right to his opinion just like everyone else. My beef with that is he’s been flogging that opinion for so long its become tired and bordering on absurd. That’s the annoying part. That FFXIII thread is a great example of it – people were talking about the issues S-E were facing with the project, and their plans going forward. Ian manages to swiftly injects some anti-Nintendo hyperbole and it goes to hell from there.

So not only did he derail the topic, he antagonised Bill and Deguello by bringing up anecdotal points and introducing some anti-Nintendo spin to the thread. I'm not condoning their behaviour, but Ian must take some of the responsibility for the result of that thread, despite the fact (this says a lot of his behaviour too) he did not return to the thread. Can you not see why some people think he is a troll, despite his long history on the forums?

If behaviour like that is permitted or even considered protected from criticism, then things have changed significantly from the old days. It may be an extreme example, but it is not a one-off incident.

Regarding Mario's ban: I’ve known him since the EzBoards days and his recent behaviour is not unexpected. He’s had major clashes of opinions with staff recently, but its sad to see him go because he’s been another significant contributor to the forums for years. Its not the worst thing he’s done either, so I’m kinda disappointed he didn’t go down in a blaze of glory.

Regarding the change in management: I have no real opinion either way. People come and go. I’ve had skirmishes with admins before (warnings by various mods, a temp ban by Bloodworth back in the day) but its no longer like the Wild West. Part of me misses that though. Part of me also hopes that the admins lead by example, so that the place becomes orderly without becoming a police state. There’s been so many changes since the NWR brand change, its hard to know who’s the leadership.

Regarding the mood of the site: it is definitely different to the PGC days. I’m not going to point fingers at others because that's not helpful to finding a solution. I can't point to a single event where things transformed, but the nearest approximation is around the transition from Cube to Wii. There was a gradual shift around the time the Wii came out, from “cheering for the underdog” to "Look at Nintendo go!" through to “X is wrong with Y”. Its quite sad to see that people are so quick to point out the flaws with everything, despite the only significant change is that Nintendo are first, not third.

Sure, we can get into details here, but what’s the point when it seems to be the same predictable formula with every thread? A few good comments, then a switch gets flicked and it degenerates into people picking sides and pulling out the same old tired arguments. You know the ones. Are you tired of hearing the same arguments from the same select few? I sure am. Its one of the reasons why I’ve reverted to lurker status, and its also why I’m also saddened to see Bill and Mario gone. I catch them on MSN regularly and enjoy talking to them about games and non-games stuff, so to see them say “I’ve had enough of NWR/PGC” (yes, Mario did this, his ban was just someone showing him the door) is disappointing, because the forums were richer for having them around.

I've done the "I've had enough of NWR/PGC" thing before. I've also had my hand in some forum shenanigans after that. I'm not doing either this time, because I'm through with trying to make a point. I'd rather just disappear into the night, whenever that time comes.

Stay Classy,
Shifty

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LOL online petitions

Internet. Serious Business.

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General Chat / Re: Gran Torino
« on: January 18, 2009, 05:15:23 AM »
I don't think this movie was suppose to come off as hilarious, but I found myself laughing quite a bit.

I pissed myself laughing at Clint Eastwood saying "Get off my lawn".

Of course, he says it while pointing a gun at them, but that's not the point.

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NWR Forums Discord / I don't trust stevey as the moderator of anything
« on: January 16, 2009, 06:02:00 AM »
There, I said it. I smell the wandering experiment all over again.

Discuss.

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TalkBack / Re: Making the Review Process Better
« on: January 05, 2009, 03:34:29 AM »
"art"? What art?

Oh no, its the Evan-signal. Now he's going to come in here swinging trashbags of rage about the old "games as art" debate!

find me a game hanging in the lourve. evan. go on!

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NWR Feedback / Re: So I can't change my name anymore
« on: January 05, 2009, 03:29:35 AM »
What happened?

Everyone else found it.
Hilarity ensued.
Then the mods locked it mid-hilarity.
Which introduced more hilarity when people were stuck with stupid names.

EDIT: BAM

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: the Locked thread comment box
« on: January 04, 2009, 05:50:03 AM »
i was going to. but the thread suddenly dissapeared. It was in general chat

This is why this idea is dumb

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I was too busy playing destroying my mate's GHWT drums to take pictures.

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: creepiest gaming article ever
« on: December 20, 2008, 06:52:19 AM »
This is why Bill can never be hired.

May as well close this thread because no-one can top this.

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: Today I was caught... =(
« on: December 16, 2008, 03:13:54 AM »
Don't try to turn the Japanese into English...Wanko is basically slang for "Puppy"... =)

THIS JUST RAISES MORE QUESTIONS

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General Chat / Re: Is it pronounced pay-king or pee-king?
« on: December 14, 2008, 07:54:21 AM »
I don't know, but for two weeks in August everyone pronounced Beijing differently, so I think they're just making it up as they go along.

Also, I think the slang for Peking Duck is Chow Yun Quack, but check with a more reliable source before you use it in a restaurant or something.

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: I love how convenient Blu Ray is.
« on: December 13, 2008, 08:13:24 AM »
So yeah, it's a moderation feature I'm still trying to fully understand, but assuming it's good, I'm going to get everyone to start using it.

Give me mod powers and I'll use it

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NWR Forums Discord / So we're not talking about hipster jeans?
« on: December 12, 2008, 04:04:57 AM »
Shift Key: what the **** is this music club?
Svevan: Do you have Hipsters in Australia?
It's railing against hipsters.
Shift Key: nah, that's not a term that gets used much
people who go around telling everyone about a band i've never heard about are just wankers
Svevan: read this: http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html
well we have nothing but wankers then

Discuss, because Facebook chat went down and I don't get why they need a whole Facebook group based around it.

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General Gaming / Re: The Next Metal Gear is...
« on: December 11, 2008, 06:14:27 AM »
Hey no one said it had to be good gameplay, just gameplay. Because Superman 64 doesnt have long winded cutscenes, it beats out MGS's gameplay by default.

In that case, put Universal Studios on that list. That game has ET and shorter cutscenes!

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General Gaming / Re: A interesting rant from a game journalist
« on: December 11, 2008, 06:11:09 AM »
Really?  REALLY?  I'd like to know ONE of these franchises that has been "neutered"

Twilight Disappointment Princess. I left Wolf Link in some dungeon to think about what he did. He hasn't made it out yet so it must be a long list.

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TalkBack / Re: December 5th WiFi Night Recap
« on: December 10, 2008, 05:44:26 AM »
Does Animal Crossing have any problems with online?

Its probably lagfree and rubbish (like the rest of the game).

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General Chat / Re: So... Car Accidents Are Fun.
« on: December 05, 2008, 06:45:42 PM »
I don't have any good crash stories (no crashes at all) but I've been in the car with RAB so I've witnessed (and survived) his driving.

But here's Hybrid blogging about probably the slowest crash in history and the followup with the insurer.

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General Chat / Re: Black Dynamite! - Blaxploited in '08 - Its Rated Arruh!!
« on: November 28, 2008, 09:42:24 PM »
"But Black Dynamite, I sell drugs to the community"

****, I hope the whole movie's as awesome as that line.

I personally enjoyed "quiet... you'll wake up the rest of the bitches" more, and a close second is "boy i'll smack that dope outta ya boy!" "stop it, we already tried that it doesnt work"

lol

Watched it again, and I still put that line above the others. The delivery of it was just too awesome.

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General Chat / Re: Black Dynamite! - Blaxploited in '08 - Its Rated Arruh!!
« on: November 28, 2008, 07:39:28 AM »
"But Black Dynamite, I sell drugs to the community"

****, I hope the whole movie's as awesome as that line.

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: DAaaMaan64 is NOT to be trusted
« on: November 19, 2008, 02:33:44 AM »
hahahahhahahahahahahhahaha





ahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah

What he said.

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General Chat / Re: ELITIST thread
« on: November 19, 2008, 02:29:15 AM »
I have a magic money tree that I grew in my backyard.

Oh I knew it. You're a witch. Kudos.

There are ways of knowing if she is a witch...

*insert Monty Python Holy Grail scene here*

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General Chat / Re: ELITIST thread
« on: November 18, 2008, 03:48:55 AM »
Its easy to not spend money on Wii games when the Wii is packed away...

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: I've got a sandwich
« on: November 14, 2008, 03:59:49 AM »
Eat the bloody pineapple! Christ, do you struggle with putting on pants too?

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General Gaming / Re: The PATHETIC state of the gaming 'media'
« on: November 13, 2008, 03:58:39 AM »
Why would they have Daemon review and RPG if he clearly dislikes basic RPG conventions?!?!

Maybe its like Deg and those Yu-Gi-Oh reviews...

Are things so slow that we've had to bring back 2002 and ragging on IGN again for their review quality?

EDIT: or whatever year it was we were laughing at the lack of "skins" for Mario Kart : Double Dash being a serious criticism...

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