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Originally posted by: joeamis
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Social Security isn't free. You pay for it with your own money. It's just our govenment's way of telling the people that they're too dumb to save the money for their retirements on their own. Besides, by the time we're old enough for social security, they won't have enough for us, so I've heard, because our government doesn't know how to dispurse it back correctly either.
If being a an excellent president consists of lying to your people and to the world to have your will done, and making sure that big businesses and the wealthy have even more money while poor people are forced to pay more for education and health care costs, then yes, Bush is an excellent president.
You complain that without government, the environment would be destroyed....hrmm, Bush just lightened pollution and waste laws and lightened restrictions, regulations, and standards for pollution producing factories and companies to "help the economy" while the federal government heavily edited and censored reports from the Environmental Protection Agency so the report would coincide with the current cabinets mind-set which is business, and not environmentally friendly.
So maybe you'd like to rethink the statement "Bush is an excellent president" just because you "don't feel so vulnerable to terrorists anymore."
When did I say social security is free??? I never said anything to that effect.
As far as our Govt. telling people that they're too dumb to save for retirement, have you ever thought that maybe some people can't afford to put money aside? not everyone is as rich as you.
You saying Bush lied to the american people and the world is merely your opinion, there's nothing to back up that claim.
Did I say Bush was the reason why the environment is no longer being destroyed? No, I never said that. I said without Govt. it would continually be destroyed. (take a look at what Govt. has done within the last 30 years to combat destruction of the environment.)
And, it seems you only brought up a third of the issues regarding the Govt. that I listed, to debate my claim...
Yes I said Bush is an excellent president, but I didn't say just because I don't feel vulnerable to terrorists anymore. I added that merely as some icing on the cake...
Well, if some people can't afford to put money aside, then why do they take it out of our checks in the first place? Yes, even poor people have social security taken out of their checks, so people not being able to afford puting money away is irrellavent. And no, I'm NOT rich, therefore, I work, so I know the value of a dollar, and I know how much social security is taken out of my check every week, which is NON-REFUNDABLE until you retire or are killed then your children receive it, and you don't have the option for them not to take money out of your check for social security. Bush did lie. Its been all over the news for the past week. Where have you been? They even lied about that whole Jessica Lynch, POW rescue. Did you know that there wasn't even iraqi forces at the hospital, and earlier that day, the hospital even gave them a master key to the hospital, so they could come and go as they please, but they were ordered to make it dramatic as if they were fighting for their lives, and they kicked in the door and other ridiculous occurances, just to dramatize the war, so there would be support for it. Look up cnn.com, because I don't feel like making a link, and I'm sure you'll find more information on it and other things the excellent president has lied about as well. So, yeah, that's not just my opinion, and there is plenty to back up that claim.
You said without govt. we'd have no social security, which I took as you meaning that Social security is some service the government supplies to us for free, but if that's not how you meant it, then consider my response to that, just an extra tidbit of info.