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X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« on: April 02, 2009, 10:17:32 AM »
So I saw this last night. It was really funny (unintentionally of course). The copy I watched was PRE-post-production.

What I mean is, there were plenty of scenes that blatantly showed wire cables and also the CGI wasn't finish. For instance, a plane would fly over a vast field of polygons. I could also tell when there was a green screen because the character looked brighter than usual. Also, there were parts that had numbers on the bottom and there were place holder sound bytes.

Honestly, it was the coolest **** ever. Why? Well I felt like a Hollywood insider when I watched it. I've never seen a major movie in all it's unpolished glory. It was a new experience seeing what the directors themselves saw before computers take over.

Now there were problems. CG is probably the coolest parts of action movies now a days and Origins is no different. Scotts laser beam looked atrocious at some points, as well as any destruction it would cause. Also seeing someone getting thrown into a truck then seeing a gray CGI model flop over the top and off the back ruins the immersiveness (but adds to the hilarity). Also there is one part where a man is shooting everyone and tosses his guns in the air and reloads them when he catches them. ALL FAKE! hehe

All in all, the movie is quite average. The action scenes are decent (even without the wires and CG), though the last fight is awesome! The story is mundane. It revolves around betrayal but never gets you emotionally involved. I must say that the actor that played SaberTooth though is the fucking man. Hugh Jackman also gives his best performance as Wolverine. Everyone else (except Van Wilder) sucked ass. They were horrible at acting. This includes Gambit (my 2nd favorite character out of the series). He was played by some gay dude. I'm not trying to be insensitive, but the dude was gay. Just watch him run! Now sure a gay dude can play Gambit....in theory. But Gambit was the pimp of the X-Men. He schemed on girls even while in danger! Ughh, I don't know, that kinda pissed me off. At least the card effect was cool, though they took his bow over the top by giving it some strange power. I was like "Why did they make Gambit a pansy?"

Anyway, I recommend the movie to fans ONLY. There is not enough in there to satisfy others who don't know **** about X-Men (and even those that do). It's not Iron Man. It's not funny. It's just a movie about betrayal against the one man you do not want to betray.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2009, 02:10:45 PM »
I had to look up who was playing Gambit cuz i had no idea who the hell he was, and i still don't. All i know is he's some sort of Australian underwear model and that's not good enough to play Gambit dammit! Someone tried to bullshit me after X3 came out that there were teaser trailers showing Gambit played by like Clive Owen, and even though he wouldn't really fit the part in my eyes (too old) i woulda rather seen that then the dude who plays him.. and this was before reading your impressions!

I found out on wikipedia that Will.i.am is in this movie too, is he any good? I don't like musicians turned actors having their first roles in a movie I'm looking forward to seeing. I'm always wary that they might ruin it for me cuz they're just not good enough. When i watch these movies i don't see Hugh jackman as wolverine, i see freaking wolverine. I don't think i could do that with will.i.am, it'd be more like "oh ****, will.i.am can teleport like nightcrawler"

Oh and also according to wiki, Ryan Reynolds was interested in the role when he heard that deadpool (the character he portrays) referenced him (Ryan Reynolds) in a recent comic, likening himself to the actor lol A bit narcissistic dint ya think?
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2009, 04:09:24 PM »
From what I understand, Deadpool's most distinguishing feature is that he knows he's a comic book character.  He can actually see the yellow narration boxes, for example.  How did they handle that in the movie?

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2009, 04:22:10 PM »
I saw this too and I enjoyed it for what it was: a run-of-the-mill X-Men movie. I wasn't disappointed, but I wasn't amazed.

Supposedly the leaked film is actually not the final product as there were some reshoots that added more Deadpool or something (I'm not 100% positive that is what the reshoots were), which is extremely welcome because Ryan Reynolds nailed the part for the brief time he was even in the movie.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2009, 04:27:53 PM »
I love Ryan Reynolds(style of humor) & from what I know of Deadpool(a few comic clips & the Hulk Vs movie) Ryan was meant to play Deadpool just as much as Patrick Stewart was meant to play Xavier.

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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2009, 04:38:17 PM »
I see. More Van Wilder is welcome! In the movie he had literally 3 lines and one main scene.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2009, 04:58:51 PM »
Rumor has it that depending on how this movie does, Deadpool gets his own movie. They've been wanting to make it for a very long time, but wanted to get more mainstream exposure for the character first. Xmen Origins was supposed to be the introduction & Ryan Reynolds has agreed to play the part ever since years ago.

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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2009, 05:32:41 PM »
I'm seeing this movie for Ryan Reynolds!

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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2009, 05:38:09 PM »
Just a warning, Ryan Reynolds has the smallest part of anyone in the movie. Nron, I hope your right about them adding more scenes.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2009, 04:22:49 PM »
Hasn't anyone else downloaded it?

Isn't it hilarious?!?!

I watched a few parts of it again cuz I couldn't stop laughing.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2009, 04:26:34 PM »
My bandwidth's for pr0n and webmastering, not mainstream hollywood stuff.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 05:16:14 PM »
Ryan Reynolds is double dipping...two super hero movies?
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2009, 05:30:21 PM »
Every Marvel superhero hero movie has to have appearances by characters who will later have their own movies.

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2009, 07:14:29 PM »
no i mean he played a character on Blade
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2009, 07:36:48 PM »
ThePerm, Donal Logue already broke continuity by appearing in both Blade1 and Ghost Rider. The entire Blade series has been erased from Marvel reality.

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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2009, 07:53:49 PM »
Blah, other than Blade trinity the Blade series was good. Unfortunately they wiped the slate clean for Punisher Warzone when the previous Punisher movie was a way better movie.  What the Hell! Firefox is trying to correct my spelling of movie. What am i supposed to say film or motion picture, talkie? I'm just saying as an actor..thats a way to get typecast. Thats the problem with comic book movies, not everyone of them is good. I just watched this one, and it was good.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 12:54:43 PM »
I'm seeing this movie for Ryan Reynolds!

Not enough scenes from Buying The Cow

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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2009, 01:26:43 PM »
"Buying The Cow" just added t to my Netflix list.
the review on there made it  seem really funny

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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2009, 01:36:45 PM »
"Buying The Cow" just added t to my Netflix list.
the review on there made it  seem really funny

its a pretty funny movie, romantic comedy though and it has more ? Oconnell (the fat kid from stand by me) than Ryan Reynolds, but his scenes MAKE the movie. trust me on this one.

oh and he gets an honerable mention for his AWESOME scene in Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle:

"you're glistening..." lol
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2009, 06:56:01 PM »
A bit off topic, but Reynolds is good in Adventureland even though he doesn't have a huge part.

I really hope there is more Deadpool in the final movie, but the more I read about it, I doubt it. Supposedly there's something like 10 more minutes that's not in, which unfortunately might just be bits and pieces.
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2009, 06:43:38 PM »
A bit off topic, but Reynolds is good in Adventureland even though he doesn't have a huge part.

I really hope there is more Deadpool in the final movie, but the more I read about it, I doubt it. Supposedly there's something like 10 more minutes that's not in, which unfortunately might just be bits and pieces.

more off topic still, but yes he was good in Adventureland and i'm glad i'm not the only one that saw it. I think the majority of the cast did a good job, felt like these were real people working a shitty summer job, etc. the girl playing Em did a scary good job with the character, because i've known a ton of girls like that and it was disturbing seeing it acted out so well. I thought i'd end up running into an ex or something.

back on topic:

woo, wolverine!
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2009, 06:55:18 PM »
one day i was messing around with my storm action figure, its head falls off all the time, i then thought i could make a catwomen action figure out of it by alternating the head. Then i remembered, Halle Berry played both storm and catwomen...double dipper!

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2009, 07:45:15 PM »
Then i remembered, Halle Berry played both storm and catwomen...double dipper!

Please don't remind me, I hate Marvel Comics and their new affirmative action stance. Catwoman, Kingpin and Nick Fury are NOT black and should not be made that way. If they want black versions, they should do something like "The New Kingpin". It works for someone like the Green Lanturn since there are many Green Lanturns (and since I am not a comic book fan, but do love the cartoons and movies based on comic book heroes, I have no problems with John Stewart and actually prefer him as Green Lanturn).

Image all the complaints they would have gotten if they had made Storm a white woman in the X-Men movies.
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2009, 08:06:38 PM »
hold up TJ, Eartha Kitt was by far the best person to play catwomen thus far. I didn't mind the new take on Kingpin at all, because there are no white guys of the right proportion to play him. From what i understand Nick Fury is going to actually be Nick Fury Jr. No reason why they both have missing eyes though.

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damn she died, didn't hear about that.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2009, 09:14:08 PM »
Then i remembered, Halle Berry played both storm and catwomen...double dipper!

Please don't remind me, I hate Marvel Comics and their new affirmative action stance. Catwoman, Kingpin and Nick Fury are NOT black and should not be made that way.

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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2009, 11:03:26 PM »
Umm...Catwoman isn't from Marvel Comics...
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2009, 02:02:30 AM »
I just saw this movie, and I gotta say it was better than what the critics try to portray it as, but I have a few questions.

1) Who was the black guy that could teleport? I don't remember his character from any marvel comic & the same goes for the guy that Charlie from Lost was playing too.

2) Were Wolverine & Sabertooth brothers in the comics? I don't remember that at all.

3) I don't know much about Deadpool, but did he really get his powers from the Weapon X program? I know they took some liberties on the story and all but does Deadpool at any point in the comics have a collection of powers like that? It seemed like what Mr. Sinister was trying to do in the new Xmen cartoon.

If anybody can catch me up on Deadpool or point me to a character profile and background history that would be great too.

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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 04:14:10 AM »
Just saw the movie today myself. I liked it better than Xmen 3.

1. He was apparently an obscure character named John Wraith, but his appearance and gun looked like he was based on Bishop. The Hobbit was Chris Bradley aka Bolt another obscure character.
2. Did they ever call him Sabretooth in this movie? There was a character named Dog Logan in the Origin Wolverine comic who may have been Wolverine's brother and may have later became Sabretooth.
3. Deadpool got a healing factor from Wolverine through the Weapon X program. He has no other powers AFAIK.

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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2009, 04:46:01 AM »
thanx for the link.

In the game X-men Legends II Deadpool could teleport, that was a surprise to me.
To see him do everything he did in the movie was just crazy

edit: Deadpool has a f'd up history. I hope he cut out most of that mess for the upcoming movie.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2009, 04:54:03 AM »
Almost every mutant in this movie seemed to have super strength, resistance and agility.

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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2009, 06:07:15 AM »
THEY MADE WOLVERINES CLAWS LOOK GOD AWFUL WITH THE CGI

three xmen movies and wolverines claws are fine, devote a whole movie to that character and you **** up his trademark weapons?? wtf man, wtf!
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2009, 06:15:02 AM »
I watched it earlier in the week and i walked out feeling hungry and meh.

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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2009, 01:00:35 PM »
the claws did look weird, but you can't go into the movie trying to nitpick everything, or maybe i just really wanted to like it & the girl I went with was really into it, so I was too.

I was willing to overlook certain things in the movie just so I wouldn't be over critical and take myself out of the experience. Like wolverines claws looking like a 1st year CGI student at Dan's School for Animation did the effect making them look too silvery, or the fact that now Gambit was over agile & took a few abilities from the game Xmen Legends II, or the fact that Deadpool had swords coming out of his hands that were so long, that he wouldn't be ale to bend his arm if he had them retracted, not to mention swords coming out of his hands and the cyclops eyes (did they also steal teleportation from his power set in Xmen Legends II?).

The helicopter scene was much better than people had said it was, and the action in general I thought was done pretty well, barring a few effects that made things look a little weird, like motorcycle coming out the exploding barn scene.

I find how they treated Deadpool a little weird considering they knew they planned on doing a movie just for him after this movie made its mark in the theater. How doe they explain away the sword claw & the cyclops eyes (& the teleportation if he's not supposed to do that).

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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2009, 02:18:23 PM »
My guess is they will either take away most of his powers or reveal it was a clone of his body.

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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2009, 05:17:00 PM »
i went in not expecting much because the trailers looked so cheesy, and i was surprised i enjoyed it as much as i did (my initial impressions based on trailers made me think i'd end up walking out on it) but of all the things i can overlook, the claws just arent one of them.

as for the deadpool spinoffs, there wasnt much of deadpool in the movie anyway so they might do an origin type movie based on him before they used him as weapon 11. or they can just not give a ****, i dont care lol
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2009, 06:01:09 PM »
I read the bio on marvel.com and I'm not sure I want to see an origins. Atleast not one faithful to that mess of a history.

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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2009, 02:25:53 PM »
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Going back to MTV, actor Ryan Reynolds told the network about his involvement in developing the property. "I get to be the authentication police, in a weird way," he said. "To their credit -- the studio's credit -- they want to make an authentic 'Deadpool' movie; they want to make it as close to the source material as possible. He's going to be the Merc with the Mouth, [we're going to give] all those answers that everyone wants. He's going to have the scarred-up face, he's going to be in the suit — and, it's going to be incredible."

I hope Deadpool turns out much better than he did in Wolverine, but RR did express his dislike of how they handled the character in XMO: Wolverine so I have faith. I imagine they regrow his body and he loses the Cyclops eyes and Baraka blades since he already regained access to his mouth.
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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2009, 03:30:21 PM »
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Going back to MTV, actor Ryan Reynolds told the network about his involvement in developing the property. "I get to be the authentication police, in a weird way," he said. "To their credit -- the studio's credit -- they want to make an authentic 'Deadpool' movie; they want to make it as close to the source material as possible. He's going to be the Merc with the Mouth, [we're going to give] all those answers that everyone wants. He's going to have the scarred-up face, he's going to be in the suit — and, it's going to be incredible."

I hope Deadpool turns out much better than he did in Wolverine, but RR did express his dislike of how they handled the character in XMO: Wolverine so I have faith. I imagine they regrow his body and he loses the Cyclops eyes and Baraka blades since he already regained access to his mouth.

Or they can just go the Punisher route and announce it him as a rebooted character that'll have nothing to do with XO:W. Unless they want to include him in the Avengers movie for some reason, there is no reason that the universe the Deadpool movie is based in should have anything to do with any other Marvel characters.
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Re: X-Men Origins: Wolverine
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2009, 02:12:22 AM »
Deadpool has a technology-based teleporter in some of the comics.  I remembered him teleporting in MUA, and I thought the only mutant ability he had was healing factor, so I looked it up, and that's what Wikipedia says about it.

As far as Wolverine and Sabretooth go, a blood relation was apparently something considered as a possibility a while back, but somewhere along the lines someone wrote in that blood tests were done, and the two actually aren't related, unlike what the movie's universe is now depicting.