Author Topic: Mafia Day Five SATURN VALLEY (Read 14389 times)

that Baby guy · « **on:** October 02, 2009, 12:09:44 AM »

That's right. Saturn Valley.

Without further ado, the vote totals:

At number 1!
stevey

Coming around at number 1!
Khushrenada.

WHAT?

A tie? Then what happens now?

Well, in a tie, the death is attributed to whomever had the first vote against them.

Normally, this would be stevey. This time, I can't say! I need help! You see, Khush's vote didn't ever happen. Normally I wouldn't say who was fried by the Puppet of Selfishness' lightning, but this time I'll make an exception. Why?

I don't know what time Dasmos actually placed his vote. His post was edited. Was it before or after Decoyman's vote? Can someone tell me? If no one knows for certain, then I'll side with the post times, yielding stevey as the dead character. I suppose I'll wait for a little while, grab a bite to eat, and let you all can let me know the results.

stevey · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:13:37 AM »

It was before decoy's

vudu · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:22:32 AM »

Bullshit, Khush's vote was nullified, but it still happened. His timestamp beats all others. Stevey was voted out.

Also, since both posts were edited, you have to go with the times they were edited, not posted.

« Last Edit: Today at 08:37:38 am by Dasmos »
« Last Edit: Today at 12:17:14 am by decoyman »

Decoyman's vote beats Dasmos'. Stevey was voted out.

decoyman · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:25:59 AM »

Besides that, I specifically told Khush NOT to use his power because we had TWO timestamps ahead of the first vote for Khush: mine and Khush's. I thought timestamps were what we went by.

stevey · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:27:05 AM »

"Bullshit, Khush's vote was nullified, but it still happened."

If his vote doesn't count then how does it still count? It never happen, thus it loses the first spot.

"Besides that, I specifically told Khush NOT to use his power because we had TWO timestamps ahead of the first vote for Khush: mine and Khush's. I thought timestamps were what we went by."

You really should have checked whether thatguy would have allowed it before hand. And there no reason not to use his power if he has the one he claimed.

vudu · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:28:17 AM »

Oh yeah, just for kicks VOTE DAAAMAN just so I have the first time stamp.

nickmitch · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:29:29 AM »

Damnit, you guys.

stevey · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:32:02 AM »

Fine Vote decoyman

that Baby guy · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:35:11 AM »

I'm not convinced either way. Dasmos definitely shouldn't have edited his post, but the policy I made clear to whomever asked about ties, vote protections and vote nullifications is definite, too. The question isn't Khush's timestamp, it's Dasmos'

Did anyone actually see when Dasmos made his post? If they did not, then Decoyman's vote is what counts, and stevey would die.

This, I'm certain, is the deciding vote. Whomever wins this vote wins the game, I think we all know. And unless I can get a few people who are convinced about Dasmos's vote being made before Decoyman's, then I'm calling it that stevey died. Ten more minutes, but virtually the only way I'm changing my mind is if someone who isn't stevey and not on stevey's side can verify it happened.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:40:14 AM »

Sorry to intrude but Dasmos put his vote for Khush at the time of his post then edited it later adding in his reasons.

stevey · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:40:58 AM »

I saw Dasmos vote before the edit last night. And I'm not just saying that to win. (It's not like he edited to change his vote in any way)

that Baby guy · « **Reply #11 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:43:53 AM »

You two are certain about that? Positive that he never took the vote out of the post?

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:44:38 AM »

I am positive.

Khushrenada · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:45:06 AM »

I'd have used my power if I could but like we all now know, it was nullified by the puppet. Otherwise, stevey would be out by a clear majority. Also, why do we have to decide who is right and who is wrong? You should have known my vote would not count and then watched for the next vote cast. With 3 mafia members working together, it would seem obvious that it would be a close vote. All I know is that the rules thread states that it goes by the timestamp of the first public vote. My vote was the first public vote. Whether that vote counted afterwords in the tallying is irrelevent since that falls in the private aspect of the game, the skullduggery of abilities used. My vote might not carry any weight in the grand total but it was still cast publicly and on time.

stevey · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:46:06 AM »

Quote from: thatguy on October 02, 2009, 12:43:53 AM

You two are certain about that? Positive that he never took the vote out of the post?

Absolutely. Who else would he vote for?

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This, I'm certain, is the deciding vote. Whomever wins this vote wins the game, I think we all know. And unless I can get a few people who are convinced about Dasmos's vote being made before Decoyman's, then I'm calling it that stevey died. Ten more minutes, but virtually the only way I'm changing my mind is if someone who isn't stevey and not on stevey's side can verify it happened.

If they not on my side then they are going to help me are they at the cost of their win? And not many of the dead follow the game that heavily.

Quote from: Khushrenada on October 02, 2009, 12:45:06 AM

I'd have used my power if I could but like we all now know, it was nullified by the puppet. Otherwise, stevey would be out by a clear majority. Also, why do we have to decide who is right and who is wrong? You should have known my vote would not count and then watched for the next vote cast. With 3 mafia members working together, it would seem obvious that it would be a close vote. All I know is that the rules thread states that it goes by the timestamp of the first public vote. My vote was the first public vote. Whether that vote counted afterwords in the tallying is irrelevent since that falls in the private aspect of the game, the skullduggery of abilities used. My vote might not carry any weight in the grand total but it was still cast publicly and on time.

From the role description, Your vote doesn't count from the time before you even made it. And shouldn't under any circumstance be counted

that Baby guy · « **Reply #15 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:56:32 AM »

I just had the thought stevey said. Your vote never existed. Lightning struck the night before. It wasn't targeted at the first voter. It was targeted at you, Khush. It couldn't be predicted your vote would be first, as this was before any votes were cast. Your vote is null and void. It isn't a vote. It's just words.

This follows in with what I told others before.

However, quite simply, we can resolve this: It's abundantly clear that if Khush had thought the rules worked how I interpret them, then he would have used his ability. He doesn't take chances. This was a mistake due to complicated and complex rules, and so we'll just pretend the rules were more clear:

Had Khush understood the rules, and had vote-protection targeted at him, the answer is simple:
stevey would die. The move wasn't re-arranged. At all. And with that, I'm calling the game.

There are two Bad players remaining, one greedy and one courageous. As it turns out, both are identified by the dog, who has identified everyone else remaining in the game. It's clear that they believe them, and it's clear that they don't even need Khush's ability to win a vote at this point.

So, Good wins, entirely, including Courageous and Pure. Bad loses, both Evil and Greedy. It was a close game, but there's no chance for Bad to make a come back and win.

stevey · « **Reply #16 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:57:51 AM »

The ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Had Khush understood the rules, and had vote-protection targeted at him, the answer is simple:
stevey would die. The move wasn't re-arranged. At all. And with that, I'm calling the game.

WOULD'VE SHOULD'VE COULD'VE! Boo hoo, so what if he didn't understand the rules. Look at the Super mario kart game no special arrangement where made because people didn't have the roles stragth and khush won as the result, now khush stands to lose and your bending over backwards to accommodate him! Khush should have figure it out if he's so smart....

How many people **** up because they haven't understand the rule and lose over the years? Khush should have pm you to clarify, he is a veteran of mafia games. IT IS ON HIS HEAD NOT MINE, THUS I SHOULDN'T LOSS DUE TO HIS LAZYNESS.

Dasmos · « **Reply #17 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:59:25 AM »

oh wow, my bad.

I edited my because my whole post was in bold, not just my vote. I changed it so the text wasn't bold too. It was for clearly superficial reasons and I'm stupid for not stating that in my edit.

Dasmos · « **Reply #18 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:01:10 AM »

oh wow. this is bullshit.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #19 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:02:53 AM »

I'll point this out: Several times during the game, Bad side players were not clear on the time actions were due for the night, or just sent them in late. Every time, excepting one circumstance where they sent the message halfway through the day, I let it slide. I'll say this: Had I not, this day would have been no contest, won by the Good. So if I bent some your way, it's only fair I bend some in the other direction, too. Like Decoyman said, they had the first two time stamps with certainty, according to the time stamps, and the rules are very narrow.

It would've been best if they consulted about the rules, yes, but it also would have been best if your side had played in the correct time-slots, too, and had I stuck you to it, like I said, this day would've been over and done with.

decoyman · « **Reply #20 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:06:08 AM »

*collapses*

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #21 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:06:43 AM »

Poor ending

Dasmos · « **Reply #22 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:07:01 AM »

hope you guys are happy with your hollow victory.

stevey · « **Reply #23 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:07:19 AM »

Quote from: thatguy on October 02, 2009, 01:02:53 AM

I'll point this out: Several times during the game, Bad side players were not clear on the time actions were due for the night, or just sent them in late. Every time, excepting one circumstance where they sent the message halfway through the day, I let it slide. I'll say this: Had I not, this day would have been no contest, won by the Good. So if I bent some your way, it's only fair I bend some in the other direction, too. Like Decoyman said, they had the first two time stamps with certainty, according to the time stamps, and the rules are very narrow.

It would've been best if they consulted about the rules, yes, but it also would have been best if your side had played in the correct time-slots, too, and had I stuck you to it, like I said, this day would've been over and done with.

Your acting like this is Khush's first mafia game, holding his hand threw the game. It is solely Khush's fault, Not anyone else! Dasmos didn't edit his vote to change his vote and there are NO RULES against that.

Should have figured you want khush to win at all cost, the two of you always make special arrangement for the other when you host....

that Baby guy · « **Reply #24 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:09:17 AM »

I also acted like it was DAaaMan's first mafia game, as well as Dasmos's, in that case. Do I have to reiterate that if you wanted me to play fair, that his ability was sent in too late?

Dasmos · « **Reply #25 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:12:16 AM »

Well I did ask you if it was okay, when I had sent in my request no votes had been cast. It couldn't possibly have affected anything in the game at that stage.

stevey · « **Reply #26 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:13:17 AM »

Nearly every mafia Host constantly accepts late role pms and constantly are lengthen the time to send them in if enough people haven't already done so. It's more or less to be expected but annoying.

This is flat out throwing away your rules just to give Khush the win.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #27 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:15:05 AM »

Right, so I decided this time to extend how late I'd accept yesterday's day action. And Khush decided to do his, with full understanding of the rules on how the votes worked. It turned out it worked, and he was protected from one vote, and stevey lost the vote count. Fair enough?

stevey · « **Reply #28 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:21:36 AM »

You can't do that. Khush made a stupid mistake in assuming about the roles. That happens. It Not Your job and it's unfair to undo the mistakes when he starts crying about it.

I didn't realize I could send anonymous pms just using a player roles. Can I go back to day 1 and tell DaAaman not to block my hit, and change it to khush!

I CALL SHENANIGANS!

that Baby guy · « **Reply #29 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:28:34 AM »

Yes you did. You tried to send one to him the next day. The rules make it clear that that's a danger the Psychic Prodigy had to face. EasyCure even made light of it.

However, the vote does say "public," and not "counted." That's an issue with the wording, plain and simple. I can understand and empathize with that mistake. Just like I can empathize with missing deadlines.

Not to mention, you wouldn't have a problem with what happened had you been the host :p I'm only hosting to fill your seat-hole.

Shenanighans yourself for signing up for the game you were supposed to be hosting!

Khushrenada · « **Reply #30 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:37:53 AM »

As a host, I don't accept late actions. But I am going to say something that I normally don't like to do and probably won't be accepted well by my teammates. I'm going to argue against myself.

I did have the feeling that Dasmos had used his power against me late today. It would be the most logical choice. Decoyman interpreted the timestamp rule a different way and so did I as evidenced by my post in this thread. However, it was not the fact that I thought Dasmos used his power which caused me to not send in a vote. I'd have still tried anyways. It was because of the cultist. We figured he might misdirect one of our powers so we held on to them. Otherwise, yes. I'd have given it a shot.

However, more than that, i'm willing to stand up and admit that Dasmos vote was cast after mine. Although I never quote it, I respond to his message in the thread. I did so for fun knowing who he was but I'm pretty sure he had cast the vote. I know a lot of people go on and on about how I can't be trusted but if you look at the evidence, I'm actually a pretty honorable guy with the people on my side. Those I'm against, not so much. But it is because of that honor that I'm willing to bring this up. You can trust me when it counts.

It's hard for me to admit this since the truth is, I want the win for Decoyman, a friend, for Vudu, after all the times we've been opposed and for Nickmitch, the only man to trust me this game without much proof. I don't want to ruin it for them. But I don't feel right sitting on what I believe is true. I can handle losing. This game I deserve it. I went in pretty cocky and came out humbled once more. That's good for me.

If you are going to stand by your ruling, let me request one tweak then. Let stevey and myself both die in a tie vote. Like Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty locked in struggle falling down a cliff. Let the others stand victorious without me. I'm not going to cry foul if I lose.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:47:44 AM »

wow THAT is the tie breaking system?

Khushrenada · « **Reply #32 on:** October 02, 2009, 02:02:19 AM »

Finally, and again, I should really stop putting my group in the hole, it would be ironic that the good guys lost because they thought it would be fun to wait until the last moment to vote when they should have gotten down to business and voted right away like the other side did. Alright. That's enough attacking of the ruling. This is just another reason of why to avoid time as the decision maker in mafia game actions. It always seems to cause a contraversy.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #33 on:** October 02, 2009, 02:16:14 AM »

On second thought... Dasmos did vote first. I remember laughing at the fully bolded post, and wondering what I'd do if he edited it.

With that, it's decided. Bad wins, but barely. Very barely. Vudu died from the hit, making it 3-2.

Sorry good.

You can still vote in the poll. Next time I'll make rules more precise so they can be understood easier, hopefully.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #34 on:** October 02, 2009, 02:34:23 AM »

Wait does this mean that greedy also wins?

that Baby guy · « **Reply #35 on:** October 02, 2009, 02:40:09 AM »

Did you vote in the poll? If so, yes. It does.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2009, 03:38:32 AM »

Since the game is over could you post all of the roles thatguy.

As far as my play I didn't get a chance to really play. I did reserect myself so I guess that protected other bad teammates and it did add another player to the greed side.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #37 on:** October 02, 2009, 04:07:31 AM »

Sure, here's a list of the starting roles:

DAaaMan "Reformed Gangleader"
stevey "Embodiment of Evil"
Khush "Lonely Child"
Dasmos "Proud Child"
decoyman "Psychic Prodigy"
vudu "Child's Companion, Dog"
nickmitch "Helpless Tagalong"
Maxi "Nosy Neighbor"
EasyCure "Weak Nerd"
Mop_it_up "Attractive, Psychic Royalty/Orphan Royalty"
GoldenPhoenix "Grandfather's Legacy/Chosen One"

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #38 on:** October 02, 2009, 04:16:23 AM »

Hmm I got EasyCure's and Nickmitch's roles right. Thought Vudu was couragous.

I would like to say thank you to Dasmos for not listening to me as regards to his ability on Day 3. See I told him to use it on Nickmitch but if I understand what transpired on Day 4 the first vote on the opposing team was the best choice.

Dasmos · « **Reply #39 on:** October 02, 2009, 05:24:16 AM »

Arg, now it's a hollow victory for us!

Khushrenada · « **Reply #40 on:** October 02, 2009, 10:08:41 AM »

Quote from: Maxi on October 02, 2009, 04:16:23 AM

Hmm I got EasyCure's and Nickmitch's roles right. Thought Vudu was couragous.

I would like to say thank you to Dasmos for not listening to me as regards to his ability on Day 3. See I told him to use it on Nickmitch but if I understand what transpired on Day 4 the first vote on the opposing team was the best choice.

Wait. Are you saying Dasmos waited until the first vote was cast to then use his ability?

Dasmos · « **Reply #41 on:** October 02, 2009, 11:47:48 AM »

No he told me on Day 3 to use it on nickmitch. I didn't listen and used it on you before any votes had been cast.

Mop it up · « **Reply #42 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:50:46 PM »

Why am I not surprised? I kind of figured that Stevey was the Embodiment of Evil, it made the most sense. He took me out on the first day simply because he doesn't like me. I wish I could have told you that Khushrenada.

Anyways, thank you for throwing together this game on such short notice Thatguy. So, uh... who were the winners again?

vudu · « **Reply #43 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:52:32 PM »

This whole game was a clusterfuck. This is why I hate complicated rules. They leave too many holes, too many one-off situations, and too many interpretations.

The game was fucked on day 2 when thatguy changed the rules so Maxi could come back from the dead.

decoyman · « **Reply #44 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:58:01 PM »

Lame. This could've been interpreted either way. Considering the major rule revision that E/G got just because Khush was incredibly good at reading people at the beginning, you think this could've been interepreted the other way this time.

Two points:
1) I don't want to hear the "you should've asked for clarification" because the norm is going by timestamps to determine the "first public vote," so that's what I was going by. Dasmos didn't have to edit his vote to fix whatever was wrong with it.
2) Further, it doesn't say the first "Public Counted Vote," just the first public vote. For all intents and purposes, Khush voted first—others reacted to it and voted after seeing it, giving this point credence. Just because it was rendered void doesn't mean it didn't affect the game.

But you know, I'm over it. It was a fun game with interesting roles, and it was fun to strategize every day. I know it was a lot of work putting it together, and stressful at the end for him, I'm sure, so I wanted to say THANKS to thatguy. I'm no stranger to controversial game endings, as vudu and others know. It sucks and is really discouraging to have a game you worked so hard on end on a sour note, just because of a few missing clarifications in the rules.

Lastly, Khush, don't be so hard on yourself. We were all strategizing together, deciding who we thought was who, and who we'd target with our powers. Heck, it was I who said not to use your power to save yourself that night. That was a huge mistake, given my misreading of the rules – I really thought we had the tiebreak no matter what, even after you suggested you might be blocked by the Puppet. That move of yours at the beginning, knowing Maxi was evil, was really good (too good, as it turned out, haha). So, don't feel bad about it —any of our actions could've won or lost this game. And vudu, your role was able to bring us all together, and your investigations were really useful. Nickmitch, you weren't able to use your role, but you came in and voted with us when needed, which should've been enough.

Heck, I sucked as Psychic. Two out of the three people I contacted died the day they would've received my message (I sent messages to the Psychic Royalty the first night, the dog the second, and the Inventor the third... vudu was the only one who actually received my message because he lived through the night).

Anyways, good game everybody. Wish it would've turned out differently, but that's how it goes sometimes. And thanks again for hosting, thatguy.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #45 on:** October 02, 2009, 02:40:51 PM »

Quote from: Khushrenada on October 02, 2009, 10:08:41 AM

Quote from: Maxi on October 02, 2009, 04:16:23 AM
Hmm I got EasyCure's and Nickmitch's roles right. Thought Vudu was couragous.

I would like to say thank you to Dasmos for not listening to me as regards to his ability on Day 3. See I told him to use it on Nickmitch but if I understand what transpired on Day 4 the first vote on the opposing team was the best choice.

Wait. Are you saying Dasmos waited until the first vote was cast to then use his ability?

Think about this Khushrenada. If that had been the case don't you think thatguy would have marked down Dasmos ability to happen on Day 5. Dasmos has to use his ability on Day 3 for it to be in effect on Day 4. There is some foresight to be had when using it.I even told Dasmos that on Day 3 when he asked for a reason for Nickmitch.I didn't have a strong one and told him if he thinks that my suggestion was not a good one that he thinks of one himself.

Khushrenada · « **Reply #46 on:** October 02, 2009, 03:09:15 PM »

It was the way you worded it that threw me off.

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if I understand what transpired on Day 4 the first vote on the opposing team was the best choice.

You make it sound like he choose whoever had the first vote on Day 4.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #47 on:** October 02, 2009, 03:23:48 PM »

Yeah sorry about that.

I meant that Dasmos had to predict who was going to be the first vote that was on the good team.

I would like to thank Khushrenada for giving me a pep talk on Day 1 after he voted for me he told me not to give up so easily.

stevey · « **Reply #48 on:** October 02, 2009, 03:29:46 PM »

Good (pure) played a shitty game and deserves to loss.
1st Khush outright tells me his role on day one. Then he lets it slip that the dog IDed him as good and has teamed up with on day 4. With pm's from decoy basically jest saying he follow the words of people that proves he is good and not any other info it was clear that the lonely Khush's dog was none other than Vudu. Leading to the Evil mafia's victory from my hit on vudu last night.

Not to mention if the good side didn't fool around like by doing crap like this on the deciding day

Quote from: Khushrenada

I'll be quite honest here. I know you probably won't believe but it's true. I'm not trying to play around or be coy. There's no need for me to lie right now. Here goes:

I didn't send out any messages to sway people to vote with me. Vudu and Nickmitch were always going to vote with me. We've been working together since the start of Day 2. Vudu and Nickmitch were never going to side with you. They just wanted to have fun by waiting to vote until the end of the day. Vudu even said so in a pm to me early this morning. I could send you a copy if you want further proof.

I didn't need to argue anything. I just argued with you at the end of the day to see if I could catch you in a lie.

Thatguy would have seen what was about to happen before the polls giving him time to clarify the roles and Khush time to change his role decision. But NOOO, lets give stevey a nervous break down wondering if the vote will come down to a tie and keep him up all night....

Finally Khush admits,

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Congratulations stevey. I had you pegged as a harmless townie. A part of the lunatic fringe. But you are much more than that. You are the Embodiment of Evil. I'm sure I've provided ample entertainment these past two days as I've run all over searching high and low for the evil mastermind of this game. Again, congratulations. By leaving me alone, I left you alon in my suspicions. Unfortunately, with reduced players means less chance to hide and with most roles now known, you are the only odd piece left. But for these past few days, your play has been fantastic. It's time to bring mine back up to that standard.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #49 on:** October 02, 2009, 03:49:15 PM »

I would like to point out that stevey played an excellent game. Only 1 person voted for him before Day 4 and that was GP. I was surprised on the day of the EasyCure vote. Khushrenada even mentioned the GP vote that since she was the Chosen One that should have been a flatout giveaway. thatguy PMed me after I died,which I am not upset over anymore,about the vote and he didn't get it either.

stevey well played game!

that Baby guy · « **Reply #50 on:** October 02, 2009, 04:53:46 PM »

Quote from: vudu on October 02, 2009, 01:52:32 PM

This whole game was a clusterfuck. This is why I hate complicated rules. They leave too many holes, too many one-off situations, and too many interpretations.

The game was fucked on day 2 when thatguy changed the rules so Maxi could come back from the dead.

Had I not done that, you, Khush, and Mop_it_up would have won right there. What I did, instead, made the game easier for the rest of the good guys to win, and only slightly more difficult for you:

Had I left him dead, stevey wouldn't have had to target him on the third night, and kill him himself. Instead, he would have gone after one of you. If you look back, despite what you think, reviving Maxi was to the overall advantage of the good side.

As far as the voting aspect goes, the issue was in my wording. I was asked about it the day before, and I clarified it for someone on the bad side. This is what I said:

Quote from: thatguy on September 30, 2009, 11:25:02 PM

It depends:

If a voter's vote was blocked, and that vote were the first vote for vudu, and the next vote in time was against someone else involved in the tie, in that case, the second person would be the one going home, because the first vote didn't actually exist.

If someone receives vote protection, which is different than a voter's vote being blocked, and it were still tied, then whomever had the first vote in the tie would go home.

So yeah, it depends on if the first vote is actually a vote or not, if that makes sense :p

And since Dasmos's vote was in front of Decoyman's vote, you can see the result, yourself.

vudu · « **Reply #51 on:** October 02, 2009, 04:57:07 PM »

Quote from: thatguy on October 02, 2009, 04:53:46 PM

If you look back, despite what you think, reviving Maxi was to the overall advantage of the good side.

That wasn't my point. If your rules are so complex that someone can win on the first day and you have to change the rules because of it, the game is broken.

Mop it up · « **Reply #52 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:06:51 AM »

Quote from: thatguy on October 02, 2009, 04:53:46 PM

Had I not done that, you, Khush, and Mop_it_up would have won right there.

I would have been okay with that.

News:

Poll

Which side won?

Author Topic: Mafia Day Five *SATURN VALLEY* (Read 14389 times)

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