I swear, it's like we're speaking two different languages.
That's exactly what you said. And you repeated it below. "I want the Wii U to fail so Nintendo could be like they used to be because that's what I want". It's all about you, you, you.
Well, if its my own personal opinion then naturally its going to be about what I want. Just as your opinion is about what you want, and everyone else's is about what they want.
We all may have different opinions, but we are all here because we like Nintendo as a company. That doesn't mean we have to like every product they make, or agree with every policy, or even like every person who works there. But as a whole we like the company and the franchises overall. I think on that we are in perfect agreement.
But I don't make it any secret that I am not fan of Wiis, or Miis, or Carnival games or any of that stuff. If you do, that's fine. I respect your opinion. But please also respect mine. People don't have to agree 100% on everything in order to get along with each other.
Same thing I've said about it before. Nintendo hasn't changed. They're still practically the same company they've been since the beginning.
Someone go link to that topic where we break down all the first party titles from each generation and compare them.
I remember that.
But the Wii brand is a new phenomenon. The casual focus is also a new phenomenon. I understand Nintendo has made casual games in the past, but never has it been the primary focus of the company like its been this generation.
Yes, Mario Paint is considered a casual game, but for some reason I actually enjoyed that and would be happy if they made a modern version of it, but for some reason I didn't like Wii Sports or Wii Music. I gave both of those games a chance, but they didn't appeal to me at all. So why is it that I enjoyed the casual Mario Paint but not these? I don't know. Maybe its the Miis or the waggle controls. I don't know. But there is definitely a difference with this generation than all others.
Also, Wii Sports was the pack in of the console. With the NES it was SMB, and with the SNES it was Super Mario World both of those were core titles, but the Wii was the first console to have something casual as the packin. And this set the tone for the entire generation.
Wait, do you want the Wii U to fail because you want Nintendo to be more like your idealized vision of Nintendo or because it has "Wii" in its name (which is an even more insane reason....)
I don't want the Wii U to fail at all as long as the core game support is there and its not a repeat of what the Wii was. I can live with the name, even though personally I don't like it. The games are what will make or break the Wii U for me. Right now its still a big question mark as to whether developers are actually going to give it the same respect and support that the competition will receive.
But my point is I can be won over, and I want to be won over. I don't criticize just to criticize. There is a reason for it.
No, not "everyone".
You know what I mean though.
First, I *love* how some folks complain that they want Nintendo to be more like they were in the olden days, then turn around and complain about all the things that Nintendo did in the olden days (sticking to Cartridges, alienating third parties, etc.) that put Nintendo where they were in the N64/GCN-era, then talk about how they loved the N64/GCN-eras.
Well, personally I am a fan of cartridges. They are a lot more durable, have no load times (not that optical discs really do anymore), and are just nice to have. Alienating third parties wasn't a cool thing, though, and I understand why there was a need to move over to optical discs. I don't complain either that Nintendo stuck with cartridges or moved on to optical discs. Both have their pros and cons, so in the end for me as a gamer either way is fine, but understandably for developers discs were the way to go.
As far as Nintendo's tyrannical dealings with third parties go, I don't condone that, but it didn't really impact the level of support Nintendo received in those days because they were a monopoly and were able to get away with it. It was only in later generations that they suffered the consequences for it. But from the perspective of a gamer (and especially one who was just a kid in those days) I was oblivious to that. Now I'm aware of it, but back then I didn't know any better. But what I do know is that Nintendo has surely suffered enough for being dicks, and there's no reason for third parties to continue hating on them and holding a grudge like some of them still seem to do.
Second, I also *love* the folks that want Nintendo to do things more like Microsoft and Sony. Sure, they could do *some* things similar... but, overall, I don't *WANT* Nintendo to be another Microsoft or Sony. We already have those companies. Instead of Nintendo being a cheap imitation of one of those two, I'd rather them continue to be Nintendo.
That's the wrong attitude to have about that. Instead of being a "cheap imitation" of those two, Nintendo should be striving to be a "Superior Imitation" or whatever you want to call it. Nintendo should be competing in all genres of gaming. The problem is they seem to have this attitude that competing with Microsoft/Sony is "too hard" so rather than try they just ignore certain demographics (like FPS) entirely. In my opinion this is the wrong attitude to have. You shouldn't just give up and not try, but at the same time you are right that they should be a cheap watered down imitation either. What they should do is compete with the intention of winning and dominating and owning the market. This is the attitude they should have.
The way the Wii U kinda comes across is as a hybrid platform geared towards both the casual and the core market. But there is a proverb which says when you chase two rabbits you lose both of them. So maybe that is what will happen here. By taking the "middle of the road" path and going half for casuals and half for core gamers, Nintendo may just end up alienating both of them. Microsoft and Sony are probably gearing up to go all out with their consoles, just like they did last gen with their behemoths. If the Wii U appears to be a "cheap imitation" then are developers going to want to support it, and are core gamers going to want to buy it?
This is a very legitimate concern. I'm not saying it to troll or anything like that. This already happened last gen, so there is a very good chance it could happen again. I don't want Nintendo to repeat these mistakes. That's why I'm speaking out.