Topic: Official Sales Thread

[BlackNMild2k1]

It's 2 FAILs in one post. Ymee's post has been invalidated.

& if you look back at my post, you realize that I mentioned discount and bargain bin games selling, but the biggest problem for software on the Wii is advertising. There almost is none. But when there is, it's likely for the Wii version to outsell the PS3 version and get close to, if not surpass the 360 version if the game is multi-plat.

3rd parties can complain all they want.
But I can't be mad at some other guy for stealing the girl of my dreams if I never bothered to let her know I exist.

[KDR_11k]

What's quality by hardcore standards isn't necessarily by expanded audience standards. Those people wouldn't enjoy most hardcore games at all and what they value in a game is completely different from what we do.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

What's quality by hardcore standards isn't necessarily by expanded audience standards. Those people wouldn't enjoy most hardcore games at all and what they value in a game is completely different from what we do.

Hey let's not over-generalize here.

[Ymeegod]

EA's Boom Blox spent millions on marketing and it didn't help much--sold 1 million, BBB sold 1/4 million?

As for BlackNMild2k1, yes marketting helps but these crap titles get just the same marketting as the good games.  And since the WII doesn't have a hardcore following, the customers fall for marketting gimmicks.  In the end it's up to the consumers and in the WII's case is made up of  mostly casual gamers (mom's dad's ect) who freaking really don't have a clue what to buy. 

As for GI, fine don't use it but you can use anybody else's top 50 games for the Year and it's going be basically the same minus a couple of titles.  Can you honestly state the WII had a better year than MS or Sony--taking about quality software.  If you are just going be metacritic or even gamerankings than Big N didn't even have an AAA title (92% or above) this year.

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[vudu]

EA's Boom Blox spent millions on marketing and it didn't help much--sold 1 million, BBB sold 1/4 million?

It's been posted on this forum a few times already, but NPD Analysis: How to Sell a Wii Game over at Game|Life is an excellent article.

[M]ost sequels targeted to the mainstream and casual markets actually underperform in comparison to the original, which is the opposite to what has traditionally been the case for core targeted games. If you examine the Nintendo Wii and DS platforms (the current primary platform for this audience) Boom Blox outsold Boom Blox 2 (Wii); Brain Age outsold Brain Age 2 (DS); Guitar Hero III bested World Tour (Wii); The Bigs crushed The Bigs 2 (Wii); Mario & Sonic at the Olympics (Wii) is on track to outperform its Winter counterpart; Rayman Raving Rabbids (Wii) (2006) outsold its 2007 release; and lastly the original Cooking Mama(Wii, DS) (2006) has out sold all sequel versions combined.

EEDAR believes Nintendo understands the mindset of its consumers the best, which is why Nintendo rarely releases sequels within the same generation and, if they do, they are years apart. ... Of course this rule is not absolute for all casual and mainstream titles, some sequels do outperform the original, but in the overwhelming majority of cases, sequels on the Wii just cannibalize the potential sales of its predecessor. For reference, if the above examples were not proof enough, Call of Duty: World at War (2008) only outsold Call of Duty 3 by the smallest of margins and the most recent Call of Duty Modern Warfare: Reflex (2009) is currently on track to under-perform against World at War.

The point is, Wii gamers won't just buy a sequel because they liked the first game.  It needs to do something drastically different to be seen as a worthwhile purchase.  Even if the gamer loved the original title if the second one is just more-of-the-same then it's not going to sell.

[Stratos]

Yeah, Boom Blox 2 should have waited longer before releasing. The first had a good sales momentum going that was killed by the sequel. I own and love both, but it's so similar that they could have waited longer and made more changes to the game or added more stuff before releasing it. M+ could have added a lot of interesting mechanics.

Though remember that an insider that worked on Boom Blox reported that VGCharts over guessed the first games sales and under guessed the second games sales.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

We Ski 2 and Shaun White Snowboarding: World Stage are in the same boat as Boom Blox 2 -- too similar, too soon.

[KDR_11k]

Well, games are expensive so if they want to convince you to spend another 50€ they better make it give you something drastically new. Maybe a problem there is that hardcore games "run out", they have a defined singleplayer mode and when you beat that it's over and you consider buying a sequel, with an endless game there's no point where it ends and you need a new one?

[SalesBot]

Media Create: 1/11 - 1/17

01. / 01. [PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Square Enix) - 177.000 / 623.000 (-60%)
02. / 02. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 139.000 / 3.006.000 (-13%)
03. / 00. [WII] Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (Capcom) - 73.000 / NEW
04. / 03. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 55.000 / 2.651.000 (-41%)
05. / 04. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 42.000 / 1.516.000 (-22%)
06. / 00. [PSP] Tekken 6 (Namco Bandai) - 25.000 / NEW
07. / 00. [NDS] Last Window: Mayonaka no Yakusoku (Nintendo) - 25.000 / NEW
08. / 05. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo) - 22.000 / 489.000 (-55%)
09. / 09. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 22.000 / 1.691.000 (-33%)
10. / 08. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Threat of the Invaders - Fire / Blizzard (Level 5) - 22.000 / 1.033.000 (-40%)

11. / 07. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.)
12. / 06. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix)
13. / 12. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP the Best Reprint) (Capcom)
14. / 10. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2 (Sega)
15. / 15. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
16. / 18. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
17. / 16. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Square Enix)
18. / 11. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 2 (Namco Bandai)
19. / 00. [PSP] Kentoushi: Gladiator Begins (Acquire)
20. / 00. [PS3] Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (Codemasters)
21. / 13. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami)
22. / 19. [WII] PokePark Wii: Picachu's Great Adventure (Pokemon Co.)
23. / 14. [WII] Momotaro Railway 2010: Sengoku Ishin no Hero Daishuugou! no Maki (Hudson)
24. / 17. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Flute of Malevolent Destiny (Level 5)
25. / 00. [PS3] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Square Enix)
26. / 00. [360] Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (Codemasters)
27. / 23. [WII] Samurai Warriors 3 (Koei)
28. / 20. [PSP] Mobile Suit Gundam: Gundam Vs. Gundam Next Plus (Namco Bandai)
29. / 25. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami)
30. / 22. [NDS] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (Nintendo)

31. / 26. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Square Enix)
32. / 27. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
33. / 24. [NDS] Tamagotchi no Narikiri Channel (Namco Bandai)
34. / 21. [NDS] Pen 1 Grand Prix: A Penguin's Trouble Special (Konami)
35. / 28. [NDS] Powerful Pro-Kun Pocket 12 (Konami)
36. / 38. [PS3] Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Legendary Hits) (Activision)
37. / 31. [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010 (Konami)
38. / 42. [PS3] Yakuza 3 (PlayStation 3 the Best) (Sega)
39. / 29. [PSP] Naruto: Shippuden Narutimate Accelerator 3 (Namco Bandai)
40. / 46. [WII] Karaoke Joysound Wii DX (Hudson)
41. / 36. [PSP] Queen's Blade: Spiral Chaos (Namco Bandai)
42. / 00. [360] Batman: Arkham Asylum (Square Enix)
43. / 37. [PS3] Assassin's Creed II (Ubisoft)
44. / 30. [WII] Tales of Graces (Namco Bandai)
45. / 35. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo)
46. / 33. [NDS] Metal Fight Beyblade: Bakutan Cyber Pegasus (Hudson)
47. / 00. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
48. / 00. [NDS] Monster Busters (Namco Bandai)
49. / 40. [NDS] Love Plus (Konami)
50. / 34. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 1.195.503 / 5.386.134 (-32%)

NDS - 16
WII - 14
PSP - 9
PS3 - 8
360 - 2
PS2 - 1

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|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
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|  PSP  |     73.213  |    148.522  |    358.549  |  13.964.823  |
|  NDS  |     64.284  |    105.466  |    350.242  |  29.448.830  |
|  WII  |     57.349  |     76.772  |    297.976  |   9.739.320  |
|  PS3  |     35.156  |     61.591  |    211.115  |   4.598.114  |
|  360  |      4.622  |      5.461  |     16.961  |   1.219.755  |
|  PS2  |      2.580  |      3.092  |      9.695  |  21.615.849  |
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|  DSi  |     27.292  |     50.178  |    169.931  |   4.416.416  |
| DSiLL |     30.418  |     45.221  |    146.282  |     582.546  |
|  DSL  |      6.574  |     10.067  |     34.029  |  17.864.397  |
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|  PSP  |     71.186  |    145.682  |    349.779  |  13.964.823  |
| PSPgo |      2.027  |      2.840  |      8.770  |      80.622  |
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[Tanatoes]

And there goes Final Fantasy.  Gone from the top ten before cracking 2 mil.

[Louieturkey]

And there goes Final Fantasy.  Gone from the top ten before cracking 2 mil.

It'll slow burn and sell to about 10% of new owners.  It'll probably get an international version before this year ends. And then that'll go to the Playstation The Best Collection soon after.

[Peachylala]

And there goes Final Fantasy.  Gone from the top ten before cracking 2 mil.

It'll slow burn and sell to about 10% of new owners.  It'll probably get an international version before this year ends. And then that'll go to the Playstation The Best Collection soon after.

Such is the life of a typical PS FF title. I can expect sales to explode in America since the FF fanbase here will pretty much buy anything no matter how stupid the game is.
 
But will it cover the astronomical development costs? Maybe.

[SalesBot]

Media Create Comparison:

After 1 week
[WII] Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom) - 82.637 / 82.637
[WII] Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (Capcom) - 73.000 / 73.000

After 1 week
[PS2] Tekken 5 (Namco) - 174.064 / 174.064
[PSP] Tekken: Dark Resurrection (Namco Bandai) - 49.426 / 49.426
[PS3] Tekken 6 (Namco Bandai) - 103.105 / 103.105
[360] Tekken 6 (Namco Bandai) - 26.231 / 26.231
[PSP] Tekken 6 (Namco Bandai) - 25.000 / 25.000

After 1 week
[NDS] Hotel Dusk: Room 215 (Nintendo) - 59.379 / 59.379
[NDS] Last Window: Mayonaka no Yakusoku (Nintendo) - 25.000 / 25.000

After 2 weeks
[GBA] Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (Square Enix) - 35.768 / 239.039
[PS2] Kingdom Hearts II (Square Enix) - 156.837 / 884.428
[PSP] Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (Square Enix) - 108.519 / 595.178
[PSP] Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Square Enix) - 176.385 / 665.511
[NDS] Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (Square Enix) - 106.104 / 401.309
[PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Square Enix) - 177.000 / 623.000

After 4 weeks
[NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo) - 69.896 / 584.306
[NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (Nintendo) - 22.000 / 489.000

After 7 weeks
[NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 134.568 / 2.137.680
[WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 139.000 / 3.006.000

After 16 weeks
[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 44.500 / 1.703.850
[WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 42.000 / 1.516.000

After 30 weeks
[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 33.998 / 1.755.609
[WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 22.000 / 1.691.000

After 31 weeks
[NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 27.780 / 2.857.990
[NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 55.000 / 2.651.000

Random Fact:
New Super Mario Bros. DS Position on chart the week RE: UC launched in 2007: 23

New Super Mario Bros. DS Position on chart the week RE: DC launched in 2010: 16

[SalesBot]

Media Create Updated

Nintendo(Wii & DS): 30 of the Top 50

[SalesBot]

ELSPA Sales Awards - December 2009
LTD Totals reached in the UK during the month of December 2009

SILVER - 100,000 copies
(360)    ASSASSIN'S CREED II    UBISOFT
(360)    LEFT 4 DEAD 2    EA
(360)    BORDERLANDS    TAKE 2
(360)    WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2010    THQ
(360)    PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2010    KONAMI
(360)    BANJO-KAZOOIE: NUTS & BOLTS    MICROSOFT
(360)    SOULCALIBUR IV    UBISOFT
(360)    SEGA MEGA DRIVE ULTIMATE COLLECTION    SEGA
(NDS)    RHYTHM PARADISE    NINTENDO
(NDS)    MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC WINTER GAMES    SEGA
(NDS)    JUNIOR BRAIN TRAINER    GSP/AVANQUEST
(NDS)    COMBAT OF GIANTS: DINOSAURS    UBISOFT
(PC)    THE SIMS 2: DOUBLE DELUXE    EA
(PC)    MEDIEVAL: TOTAL WAR - GOLD EDITION    SEGA
(PC)    CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2    ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
(PS2)    CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR    ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
(PS3)    SEGA MEGA DRIVE ULTIMATE COLLECTION    SEGA
(PS3)    LEGO STAR WARS : THE COMPLETE SAGA    LUCASARTS
(PS3)    TEKKEN 6    ATARI
(PS3)     ASSASSIN'S CREED II     UBISOFT
(WII)    NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII    NINTENDO
(WII)    F1 2009    CODEMASTERS
(WII)    ASHES CRICKET 2009    CODEMASTERS
(WII)    THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD: OVERKILL    SEGA
(WII)    TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR 10    EA
(WII)    BIG FAMILY GAMES    THQ

GOLD - 200,000
(360)    ASSASSIN'S CREED II    UBISOFT
(360)    LEGO BATMAN: THE VIDEOGAME    WARNER BROS.
(360)    PURE    DISNEY
(360)    HALO WARS    MICROSOFT
(360)    GRAND THEFT AUTO EPISODES FROM LIBERTY CITY    TAKE 2
(360)    LEFT 4 DEAD 2    EA
(360)    NEED FOR SPEED: SHIFT    EA
(360)    BATMAN: ARKHAM ASYLUM    EIDOS
(NDS)    MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC WINTER GAMES    SEGA
(PC)    FOOTBALL MANAGER 2010    SEGA
(PC)    CIVILIZATION IV    TAKE 2
(PS3)     UNCHARTED 2: AMONG THIEVES    SONY
(PS3)     ASSASSIN'S CREED II    UBISOFT
(PS3)     NEED FOR SPEED: SHIFT    EA
(PSP)   LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY    LUCASARTS
(WII)    MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC WINTER GAMES     SEGA
(WII)    NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII    NINTENDO
(WII)    LEGO INDIANA JONES: THE ORIGINAL ADVENTURES    LUCASARTS
(WII)    MONOPOLY    EA
(WII)    JUST DANCE    UBISOFT

PLATINUM - 300,000
(360)    FORZA MOTORSPORT 3    MICROSOFT
(360)    SAINTS ROW    THQ
(360)    ASSASSIN'S CREED II    UBISOFT
(360)    GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK    ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
(360)    LEGO BATMAN: THE VIDEOGAME    WARNER BROS.
(360)    THE ELDER SCROLLS IV: OBLIVION    TAKE 2
(360)    SAINTS ROW 2    THQ
(360)    PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2009    KONAMI
(NDS)    PROFESSOR LAYTON AND PANDORA'S BOX    NINTENDO
(NDS)    THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS    NINTENDO
(NDS)    PUZZLER COLLECTION    UBISOFT
(PS3)     ASSASSIN'S CREED II    UBISOFT
(WII)    NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII    NINTENDO
(WII)    MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC WINTER GAMES    SEGA
(WII)    WII FIT PLUS     NINTENDO
(PC)    WORLD OF WARCRAFT: WRATH OF THE LICH KING    ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

DOUBLE-PLATINUM - 600,000
(360)    FIFA 10     EA
(PS3)     FIFA 10    EA
(WII)    BIG BEACH SPORTS    THQ
(WII)    SUPER MARIO GALAXY    NINTENDO
(WII)    NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII    NINTENDO

DIAMOND - 1,000,000
(WII)    WII SPORTS RESORT     NINTENDO
(PS3)     CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2    ACTIVISION BLIZZARD

[Stratos]

What happened to the cool mario sales charts chronicling NSMB Wii's destruction of every other mario game? I was hopping to see more of them.

[BlackNMild2k1]

So was I.

[Chozo Ghost]

Maybe NSMB's rise has came to a stop and the other Mario's have decided to gang up and give him a pummeling?

[TJ Spyke]

You are right, since the last chart NSMBW has passed Super Mario Bros. 2 (Japanese SMB 2, aka The Lost Levels) and Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins. Up next is Super Mario World at 3.55 million.

[SalesBot]

Super Mario Bros. Wii reaches 10 million sold WorldWide.

Nikkei Net says New Super Mario Bros. Wii has now sold 10 million units worldwide. The milestone was reached in around 8 weeks. This makes it the fast selling individual format title to 10 million.

Japan sales have reached 3 million according to Enterbrain. North America sales are over 4.5 million and Europe sales are approaching 3 million.

[Mop it up]

Who was making the charts for New Super Mario Brothers Wii? Was somebody from NWR making them, or were they coming from somewhere else?

[Chozo Ghost]

So did Reggie win his bet, or what is the deal with that?

[Mop it up]

The bet includes the NPD numbers for January so we don't know that yet. But it looks like Modern Warfare 2 will be about 1 million ahead.

[Caterkiller]

The first Super Mario Bros was 6 million right? but only in Japan? Is it known what it is world wide?

10 Million from NSMBW? thats like 500 million smackers! Did Nintendo really make nearly half a billion off of one game?

[Mop it up]

The first Super Mario Bros was 6 million right? but only in Japan? Is it known what it is world wide?

40 million worldwide, but it was a pack-in outside of Japan.

10 Million from NSMBW? thats like 500 million smackers! Did Nintendo really make nearly half a billion off of one game?

No. Development, manufacturing, exchange rates, retailer cuts, marketing, etc. all factor into the cost of selling the game. It's probably more like 200 million... which is still an inconceivable amount.