Author Topic: Resident Evil 4 has sold 1.23 million units world wide (Read 11719 times)

nolimit19 · « **on:** June 08, 2005, 12:45:12 PM »

i looked for another thread on this topic, but i couldn't find one, so don't kill me if there is one....

anyways, a lot has been made of the poor sales for RE4, but the numbers dont look that bad...

"- Capcom announced that Biohazard 4 / Resident Evil 4 for GameCube has sold 1.23 million copies worldwide, here are the breakdown:

Japan - 210,000 units
Europe - 360,000 units
North America - 660,000 units"

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 08, 2005, 01:06:29 PM »

It has been mentioned in another thread
Look for ShyGuy's post

but thats ok, maybe it could use its own thread.

It sucks that Capcom's GC sales sabotage didn't work out so well, well better luck next time.......

nolimit19 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 08, 2005, 01:14:09 PM »

just my luck. i guess the question is: how much would a given game need to sell to keep Capcom happy with an exclusive deal? 1.23 mill isnt good enough apparently.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 08, 2005, 01:55:25 PM »

I saw on another forum (GAF i think) where they did a Capcom titles/sales comparison between PS2 & GC

it was kinda ridiculous(going from memory here, as I can't check GAF from work, IP banned for some reason)

PS2 = 40 titles to 13million sales
GC = 4-7 titles to 6million sales

I have no facts behind those #'s, take them as you will

blackfootsteps · « **Reply #4 on:** June 08, 2005, 04:03:34 PM »

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Originally posted by: nolimit19

"- Capcom announced that Biohazard 4 / Resident Evil 4 for GameCube has sold 1.23 million copies worldwide, here are the breakdown:

Japan - 210,000 units
Europe - 360,000 units
North America - 660,000 units"

And Australia.... 4 units. Yay!

KDR_11k · « **Reply #5 on:** June 09, 2005, 02:29:58 AM »

Australia counts as Europe to the corporate types.

Arbok · « **Reply #6 on:** June 09, 2005, 10:06:17 AM »

So what was the deal with PGC reporting only half a mil being sold only a couple of days ago? The staff here jumped all over the GCN for that fact as well.

vudu · « **Reply #7 on:** June 09, 2005, 10:11:55 AM »

PGC was reporting the NPD Group's numbers which (A) only count North America sales and (B) only count sales through April.

Arbok · « **Reply #8 on:** June 09, 2005, 12:56:15 PM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
PGC was reporting the NPD Group's numbers which (A) only count North America sales and (B) only count sales through April.

I realized they were only talking about North America's sales figures, but 500,000 vs. 660,000 is quite a difference. Has RE4 sold 160,000 copies since those figures were published? Seems like it has very good legs in terms of sales, if that's the case or the NPD figure was very, very rough.

thepoga · « **Reply #9 on:** June 09, 2005, 03:00:57 PM »

1.4 million in five months worldwide isn't that great for a game of this calibur. 1.4 million should be the number for the US alone. Think about how good this game was!

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #10 on:** June 09, 2005, 03:32:06 PM »

think about WHO published it!

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2005, 04:12:37 PM »

CAPCOM SALES

FY 2004 Sales Results (4/1/2004 - 3/31/2005)
PlayStation 2 - 40 titles, 7.3 million copies
GameCube - five titles, 2 million copies
Xbox - seven titles, 250,000 copies
Game Boy Advance - seven titles, 3.4 million copies
PC & Misc. - 11 titles, 400,000 copies

FY 2005 Sales Estimates (4/01/2005 - 3/31/2006)
PlayStation 2 - 55 titles, 10.7 million copies
GameCube - four titles, 350,000 WTF? copies
Xbox - eight titles, 750,000 copies
Game Boy Advance - four titles, 1.25 million copies
PC & Misc. - zero titles, zero copies

Seriously... Capcom is SO anti-Nintendo, it's not even funny.

mantidor · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2005, 04:36:16 PM »

not to mention the big support capcom is giving to the psp when it shows clearly that the games dont sell on it and has the smallest userbase, Capcom probably just hates money.

thepoga · « **Reply #13 on:** June 09, 2005, 06:01:29 PM »

FY 2005 Sales Estimates (4/01/2005 - 3/31/2006)
PlayStation 2 - 55 titles, 10.7 million copies

are u sure that's right? 55 titles released in a span of two months. which is 15 more than what they released for the whole previous fiscal year "PlayStation 2 - 40 titles". 55 titles in two months and 40 titles in a whole year. Somethings not right.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #14 on:** June 09, 2005, 06:33:10 PM »

April 2005 TO March 2006 (1 year), estimated game sales.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 09, 2005, 07:26:18 PM »

Dirk, Thanx for finding the actual number for that.

I was sortof just throwing numbers out there, but I think I got my point across, as demonstrated by the actual numbers.

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FY 2004 Sales Results (4/1/2004 - 3/31/2005)
PlayStation 2 - 40 titles, 7.3 million copies
GameCube - five titles, 2 million copies
Xbox - seven titles, 250,000 copies
Game Boy Advance - seven titles, 3.4 million copies
PC & Misc. - 11 titles, 400,000 copies

GC has 1/8 the games and sells more than a 1/4 as many copies.

Logic would have it that you would release more games for GC, as you are selling more copies per Title. But rarely does Logic and Business Management ever meet (at least in my personal experiece)

mac<censored> · « **Reply #16 on:** June 09, 2005, 08:07:15 PM »

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Logic would have it that you would release more games for GC, as you are selling more copies per Title. But rarely does Logic and Business Management ever meet (at least in my personal experiece)

It's even worse in Japan. Japanese in general, and big Japanese companies in particular, are very risk adverse, and loooove a bandwagon. Once they've got it in their head that a particular thing is "it" -- usually because it gets lots of press and hype -- they'll stick to this notion like glue, regardless of the results, on the assumption that just a little more perseverance will show their assumption to be correct (and a fear of admitting their decision was wrong).

(I work for a large Japanese company, so I constantly see this in painful detail)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #17 on:** June 09, 2005, 09:14:50 PM »

Interesting enough, Nintendo steered around on the issues of online, video playback, licensing, ...

thepoga · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12, 2005, 07:39:07 PM »

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

GC has 1/8 the games and sells more than a 1/4 as many copies.

Logic would have it that you would release more games for GC, as you are selling more copies per Title. But rarely does Logic and Business Management ever meet (at least in my personal experiece)

Well, the few Capcom games on the Cube were above average to REALLY good. I'm sure there were a lot of average games that were released on PS2 that only made money because the userbase is so large.

if 10 percent of the people who own PS2's buy RE4, that's around 9 million already. To equal the Cube, only 1 percent has to buy the game. I think Capcom is pretty much justified in selling the game on PS2.

Nosferat2 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2005, 10:28:15 PM »

Your right they are justified in selling RE4 on the PS2. But not if there was an agreement otherwise. I dont know how nintendo let them get out of that deal of exclusivity. IM certain Nintendo took a nice payoff for that one, or maybe there was some renig clause in the contract.
But who cares about all that BS.
This is the kicker. PS2 gets ports of Gamecube games but rarely does the Gamecube get Ports of the Ps2 games. Where is Devil May Cry for the Gamecube. If Campcom is justified in selling Re4 to the Ps2 they are equally justified in porting the 40 games on the PS2 to the Gamecube. Why dont they?? They will sell more wont they??? I dont undrstand the logic nor dont i understand why in the hell they do what they do.

anubis6789 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2005, 10:50:20 PM »

Arggg, my head hurts. How did the 2005-2006 Xbox estimates go higher with one over last years title amount (Xbox - eight titles, 750,000 copies), while the GCN dropped way down with only one less title (GameCube - four titles, 350,000 copies)

I wonder what the estimates were for 2004-2005. How come we always hear from Capcom that games are under preforming on the GCN yet these numbers show a higher per title number?

By the way who wants to put bets on how well Killer 7 will sale on the GCN compared to the PS2. I'm sure even if the GCN version oversales the PS2 version that Capcom will still call the GCN version sales an underpreformance.

This brings to mind one of my favorite sayings: "Remember, it is not paranoia if they really are out to get you."

Ian Sane · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2005, 07:32:20 AM »

"How did the 2005-2006 Xbox estimates go higher with one over last years title amount (Xbox - eight titles, 750,000 copies), while the GCN dropped way down with only one less title (GameCube - four titles, 350,000 copies)

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Capcom didn't piss off Xbox owners. Perhaps they're lowering their sales expectations to take into account how they pissed off the entire Cube fanbase by announcing the RE4 port before release.

Of course if they were smart enough to come to that conclusion they wouldn't being doing half of the stupid sh!t they're doing now.

What bugs me is that Capcom is releasing a Midway Arcade Treasures style arcade comp on the Xbox and PS2 but NOT the Cube. WHY NOT? It's just a damn arcade collection. That requires no actual game development so it's not like they would be risking millions of dollars to release it on the Cube.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #22 on:** June 13, 2005, 08:09:27 AM »

Perhaps their shareholders hate the GC so much they think it brings in more money if you don't port it to the Cube?

anubis6789 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 13, 2005, 10:54:56 AM »

Ian, I don't think that there are a whole lot of people are angry enough at Capcom to stop buying their games. I mean sure I was upset when they revealed the PS2 version of RE4 but I still bought that game, and I am still anxiously waiting for Killer 7.

I am upset that we are not getting the Capcom game collection though. Didn't Mega Man Aniversry Collection do the best on the GCN anyway?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #24 on:** June 13, 2005, 12:06:30 PM »

(up to) April 05 sales numbers for Mega Man Anniversary Collection from the Official GCN Sales thread mentions

209,000 for GCN
202,000 for PS2
16,000 for Xb

nolimit19 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:44:37 AM »

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
CAPCOM SALES

FY 2004 Sales Results (4/1/2004 - 3/31/2005)
PlayStation 2 - 40 titles, 7.3 million copies
GameCube - five titles, 2 million copies
Xbox - seven titles, 250,000 copies
Game Boy Advance - seven titles, 3.4 million copies
PC & Misc. - 11 titles, 400,000 copies

FY 2005 Sales Estimates (4/01/2005 - 3/31/2006)
PlayStation 2 - 55 titles, 10.7 million copies
GameCube - four titles, 350,000 WTF? copies
Xbox - eight titles, 750,000 copies
Game Boy Advance - four titles, 1.25 million copies
PC & Misc. - zero titles, zero copies

Seriously... Capcom is SO anti-Nintendo, it's not even funny.

so 2004 average sales number per game is like this...

ps2- 182,500
gc- 400,000
xbox- 35,714
GBA- 485,714
PC & misc.- 36,363

assuming those sales numbers are right, capcom must be completely out of their minds....what is the source of those numbers?

jasonditz · « **Reply #26 on:** June 16, 2005, 09:13:16 AM »

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Originally posted by: anubis6789
Ian, I don't think that there are a whole lot of people are angry enough at Capcom to stop buying their games. I mean sure I was upset when they revealed the PS2 version of RE4 but I still bought that game, and I am still anxiously waiting for Killer 7.

I am upset that we are not getting the Capcom game collection though. Didn't Mega Man Aniversry Collection do the best on the GCN anyway?

Indeed, a lot of what Capcom has done wrt RE4 has hurt them a lot more than it hurts us. I've got no problem with them releasing inferior PS2 ports of their good Cube titles.

oohhboy · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2005, 10:04:12 AM »

I got no real beef about them myself from Capcom porting either, but burning RE4s' release intentionally like that is a real kick in the nuts.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2005, 11:01:49 AM »

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Originally posted by: nolimit19

so 2004 average sales number per game is like this...

ps2- 182,500
gc- 400,000
xbox- 35,714
GBA- 485,714
PC & misc.- 36,363

assuming those sales numbers are right, capcom must be completely out of their minds....what is the source of those numbers?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/01/news_6126708.html

I think we already knew Capcom was out of their minds. I'm still waiting for Shinji Mikami to cut his head off. (Remember? He said he'd cut off his own head if RE4 ever made it to PS2. I don't blame him, because I think he truly wanted it to stay on GCN, but still.)

vudu · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2005, 12:54:46 PM »

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I'm still waiting for Shinji Mikami to cut his head off.

If that happens, watch out...a parasite might jump out.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2005, 02:40:06 PM »

those numbers....geez, i was honestly kind of assuming that those numbers were exagerated.

just look at that:

ps2- 182,500
gc- 400,000
xbox- 35,714

i cant get over it. the average capcom game for the gamecube sells more than 10 times better than the average capcom game for the xbox. that means something, regardless of any variables.

anubis6789 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 16, 2005, 02:52:40 PM »

I have been thinking about it and maybe we are not looking at the numbers correctly.

Are these international numbers? If so then RE4 would make up half the total for the GCN. If these are just US numbers then the 400,000 figure is more accurate, seeing as how RE4 has only sold 500,000 in the US. Maybe these are just for Japan. Does any one know were these numbers are refering to?

Just wanted to put some things out there to think about.

*EDIT:added the part about Japan which I forgot to put in earlier.*

anubis6789 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 16, 2005, 09:44:06 PM »

Okay I just thought about it some more and even if these were international numbers it would still work out to between 250,000 to 200,000 per title, outside of RE4. This ofcourse will still put the gamecube ahead on a per title bases.

The more I think about the more I think everyone hates Nintendo.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 17, 2005, 01:21:37 PM »

seriously, what is the deal with all this anti-nintendo business practice. money is supposed to run businesses, but it doesnt seem to be the case with companies dealing with nintendo...

i just dont get it

Rancid Planet · « **Reply #34 on:** June 17, 2005, 09:38:52 PM »

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo

Seriously... Capcom is SO anti-Nintendo, it's not even funny.

To tell you the truth, I don't think that Capcom even get THAT far. I think they see a list like the one you just posted and they think "WOW! We have GOT to get those PS2 numbers up!" I don't think that the GCN is anymore than an afterthought to them anymore. Who knows why?

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 18, 2005, 03:45:30 AM »

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
I'm still waiting for Shinji Mikami to cut his head off. (Remember? He said he'd cut off his own head if RE4 ever made it to PS2. I don't blame him, because I think he truly wanted it to stay on GCN, but still.)

He sort of did cut his own head off, he did break away from capcom and started his own (subsidiary) company " Clover Studios". So in a way he detached himself from the head even though the main vein(money) is still attached.

xts3 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 19, 2005, 06:42:09 AM »

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Originally posted by: Nosferat2
Your right they are justified in selling RE4 on the PS2. But not if there was an agreement otherwise. I dont know how nintendo let them get out of that deal of exclusivity. IM certain Nintendo took a nice payoff for that one, or maybe there was some renig clause in the contract.
But who cares about all that BS.
This is the kicker. PS2 gets ports of Gamecube games but rarely does the Gamecube get Ports of the Ps2 games. Where is Devil May Cry for the Gamecube. If Campcom is justified in selling Re4 to the Ps2 they are equally justified in porting the 40 games on the PS2 to the Gamecube. Why dont they?? They will sell more wont they??? I dont undrstand the logic nor dont i understand why in the hell they do what they do.

I think the lack of gamecube ports has to do with maybe a high percentage of gamecube owners owning a PS2? Seems reasonable to me when you consider people mainly own the cube for their favorite franchises and not as the main gaming platform.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #37 on:** June 19, 2005, 08:51:06 AM »

Shinji Mikami was actually a director at Clover but continued to work with Production Studios 4 until RE4 was finished--so it really didn't have anything to do with RE4 being ported since that decision came after he already decided to leave. Think he stated how he wanted to create something "different".

KDR_11k · « **Reply #38 on:** June 19, 2005, 09:32:41 AM »

He couldn't have stopped the decision anyway. What the managers/shareholders decide overrules the game designer. Which is why some games suck so bad or are rehashes, the managers wanted to change stuff. Sometimes for marketability, sometimes because they think they know how to improve it (and sometimes because they want to look busy).

jasonditz · « **Reply #39 on:** June 19, 2005, 10:23:21 AM »

Exactly... no one that had a hand in trying to port a reasonable version of RE: Code Veronica from the supposedly inferior DC to the PS2 came up with the idea of taking the single most visually stunning title on a vastly superior piece of hardware and bring it to the Ps2 as well.

The ultimate irony is that this "purely financial" decision has been just as problematic from a business perspective as it was from a technological perspective.

Rancid Planet · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2005, 11:44:13 PM »

Good point jason.

Talon · « **Reply #41 on:** June 30, 2005, 06:04:53 AM »

Just got this game the other day and think its the best thing since sliced bread. Absolutely love this game and the new direction it was taken in. The story is pretty decent too (unlike most games these days). Its like watching a movie im totally in awe!! I recomend anyone who has not got this game yet to go straight out and buy it, its really really worth it.

(I love it when you finish exams and you get to buy all the games you wanted to play during the year but cant because you dont want the distractions, now if i could only find myself viewtiful joe!!)

oohhboy · « **Reply #42 on:** June 30, 2005, 02:40:25 PM »

Dude if a game gets a 10 at PGC, it bloody well deserved it. These guys put out some of the best reviews on the web. An excellent canidate for best game of the generation. Masterpiece.

xts3 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2005, 10:51:12 PM »

It's too bad the layout for the hardware and game reviews is absolutely friggin horrible they should hire somebody to clean that up, gamespot has way better layout they could learn a lot from that site, hell even other fansites with their reviews have better layouts then PGC.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #44 on:** July 07, 2005, 07:24:42 AM »

Games by alphabetical order? It's fine by me. I suppose a search feature could be added.

Besides, if you're going to gamespot for your reviews you're a moron.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #45 on:** July 07, 2005, 08:10:40 AM »

I suppose a search feature could be added.

Since they're all listed on one page you can just use CTRL-F. Or /expression, if you use Firefox and prefer that.

What IS annoying is that sometimes there's no indicator what system a game is for.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #46 on:** July 07, 2005, 12:13:21 PM »

That's what I do anyway, but I have to wait for the page to load if my game is low alphabetically. It's not such a big deal on DSL, but on slower connections it can be a bother.

Nosferat2 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 07, 2005, 12:37:26 PM »

Back to the damn subject, anyone know how many units RE 4 sold?

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Author Topic: Resident Evil 4 has sold 1.23 million units world wide (Read 11719 times)