Topic: Switchmas Eve Rumors and Speculations Thread

[Ian Sane]

Those rumoured details are so realistic that you don't need a leak.  You can just throw it out there with a good chance of being proven right.  The only way I see that not being the NX is if Nintendo does something really weird that no one could predict.  Of course it's Nintendo so being weird might be the more likely option.

[Mop it up]

-The NX will have a rechargeable battery of some kind.
-It will feature a power button.
-There will be a new eShop for it.
-It will not only play games but also have some sort of video service(s).
-The controller for the NX will be a controller.
-It will be HD and will not work with an RF adapter (this one could be false).
-There will be a power LED indicator light so you'll know when it's on.

[MagicCow64]

-The NX will have a rechargeable battery of some kind.
-It will feature a power button.
-There will be a new eShop for it.
-It will not only play games but also have some sort of video service(s).
-The controller for the NX will be a controller.
-It will be HD and will not work with an RF adapter (this one could be false).
-There will be a power LED indicator light so you'll know when it's on.

-It will have a completely functional and easy-to-use UI and webstore that will be universally condemned

[Adrock]

So are today's Reddit rumors the first time X86 has been specifically linked to NX?

Specifically? I think so. AMD has been seemingly hinting at it as far back as December 2014, never mentioning Nintendo or NX. Devinder Kumar, AMD's Chief Financial Officer, stated AMD scored "design wins" for products to be introduced in 2016, one x86 and the other ARM. Everyone naturally assumed at least one, maybe both was Nintendo. This gets a bit crazier with the all-but-officially-confirmed PS4k. Is one Sony and the other Nintendo? I'm about to throw this speculation cap in a hobo trashcan fire because as much as I like talking about shiny, new hardware, this is getting out of hand. I was starting to lean toward the ARM camp though.

As for the Reddit rumor, the poster has apparently been verified by a moderator, but no one knows how strict Reddit is or what their process for verifying is. It's gotten to the point where the Reddit moderator signed up for NeoGaf (currently awaiting approval because that's a thing you do on NeoGaf to start posting) in an attempt to coordinate with NeoGaf's moderators to re-verify the Reddit poster. What the fuc...

[BlackNMild2k1]

I am curious what rumors were like before Wii U was announced. I do remember reading up on Wii before it came out but then I think most of the focus was on speculating what the controller might be like and deciphering the "2-3 times as powerful" comments.

I don't remember what leaks were like and how accurate those predictions turned out being.

Well, I've got quite the reading selection for you

The OFFICIAL Big N rumor thread *bring your own salt*

and to bring it all into one indexed thread....

Wii U in Review (News & Rumor Consolidation)

[Adrock]

According NeoGaf user LCGeek (who posted proof that he had info on both Wii and Wii U's CPU, and he hasn't been banned) is claiming info on NX's CPU: NX > Xbox One > PS4.

Note: this is only regarding CPU. He doesn't have info on GPU or RAM.

[Evan_B]

I am curious what rumors were like before Wii U was announced. I do remember reading up on Wii before it came out but then I think most of the focus was on speculating what the controller might be like and deciphering the "2-3 times as powerful" comments.

I don't remember what leaks were like and how accurate those predictions turned out being.

Well, I've got quite the reading selection for you

The OFFICIAL Big N rumor thread *bring your own salt*

and to bring it all into one indexed thread....

Wii U in Review (News & Rumor Consolidation)

Those were the days. With the onslaught of Directs in recent years, it made sense that the rumor thread ran out of steam, but with the upswing of leaks and such as of late reminded me of those threads.

[ShyGuy]

Well that shouldn't be hard, the CPUs in both the PS4 and XB1 are relatively weak 1.6 and 1.75ghz Jaguar CPUs. Especially compared to how beefy the 360's 3.2ghz Triple core Xenon was in 2005.

People complain that the Wii U CPU is underpowered for its time, but MS and Sony's latest entries are underpowered as well. With the X86 architecture, it's even more apparent.

[ShyGuy]

Nintendo is re-branding their logo, in a manner of speaking.

http://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/04/nintendo-looks-to-be-going-back-to-red-in-its-marketing-and-logo/

[Adrock]

Well that shouldn't be hard, the CPUs in both the PS4 and XB1 are relatively weak 1.6 and 1.75ghz Jaguar CPUs. Especially compared to how beefy the 360's 3.2ghz Triple core Xenon was in 2005.

Regardless of difficulty, it's still encouraging that NX (potentially) features a better CPU. That was considered the weak link on both PS4 and One. If Nintendo transitions to x86-64, it would practically have to go out of its way to feature a processor with less computing power. With a new chip design, Nintendo is effectively starting over so it doesn't get the same cost-saving benefit of tweaking one it used for like 10 years.

[supermario2k]

I haven't been keeping up with computers much but I thought they stopped getting faster and were focusing more on RAM and stuff like that maybe I am wrong.

[TOPHATANT123]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1204802

[BranDonk Kong]

The Jaguar CPUs in the PS4 and Xbone are much more powerful than the CPUs from the Xbox 360 and PS3. Clock speed doesn't mean nearly as much as it used to. For the same processor type, sure, faster is better...but you're basically comparing apples to oranges with these.

[NWR_insanolord]

For the same processor type, sure, faster is better...but you're basically comparing apples to oranges with these.

Apple spent millions on marketing for years and years trying to make people understand that to no avail.

[ShyGuy]

The Jaguar CPUs in the PS4 and Xbone are much more powerful than the CPUs from the Xbox 360 and PS3. Clock speed doesn't mean nearly as much as it used to. For the same processor type, sure, faster is better...but you're basically comparing apples to oranges with these.

I know, I'm saying for 2013, they weren't all that and a bag of chips. Where as for 2005, a 3 core Xenon was YUGE.

[Ian Sane]

Nintendo is re-branding their logo, in a manner of speaking.

http://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/04/nintendo-looks-to-be-going-back-to-red-in-its-marketing-and-logo/

A minor move but one I like.  The grey logo is associated with Wii/Wii U era Nintendo.  Changing the logo, at least from a branding perspective, suggests that the NX is the start of a new era and that is how they should market it.

[supermario2k]

So news has gotten so slow the world of Nintendo has resorted to discussing the logo. I am wondering how much longer people can maintain any sort of anticipation for this thing if they don't give us something to talk about soon.

[Evan_B]

It's Nintendo's fault for announcing the thing 18 months before the E3 they would present it. However, think of it like this- we could either have people railing on the Wii U for being dead in the water, or we can have people cautiously optimistic, yet skeptical of the NX.

That hasn't stopped people from doing both simultaneously, of course, but those people are disappointing in their own right.

[Adrock]

NX was announced March 17, 2015 so a little less than 15 months. Either way, Nintendo handled that the best way it could. Announcing NX coincided with announcing its partnership with DeNA. Had Nintendo not announced a new platform alongside its mobile push, it would have had to deal with speculation that it was leaving the hardware business considering how poorly Wii U was doing which would have tanked its stock. The timing was all intentional. Nintendo announces its partnership with DeNA right before the end of fiscal year then released its first mobile app, Miitomo, right before the end of the next fiscal year. It got to map out future while downplaying just how poorly Wii U was doing.

And not talking about NX since announcing it was also the best way to handle that situation. Nintendo had to throw Wii U under the bus except it was still stuck with the console for what, another 20 months. Wii U was getting replaced sooner rather than later, but Nintendo really had no other choice other than to continue supporting it. Not an ideal scenario by any metric though Nintendo surprisingly handled it well all things considered.

[Fatty The Hutt]

The revised title of this thread, #TeamButtons Wins Again, always makes me think of Red Buttons. But then, he rarely won. He was usually the lovable loser.

That is all. You may now resume your regularly scheduled rampant pointless speculation.

[supermario2k]

Adrock makes some good points except they didn't do ALL they could, they could have opened the flood gates on the Virtual Console, they could have made some quick and dirty ports of Game Cube and Wii games, more than they what five that they did? They could have spent less time/money/resources on DLC for the handful of games they do have and threw all of that at even just one more small time franchise to get something else out there. They threw Wii U under the bus because they were side tracked with the money making machine called Amiibo and then forgot that NX was even out there.

[ShyGuy]

Speculation time!

What if the NX hand held is super cheap at $99us and can be used as controller, and the NX console is heavy duty for $400us with the hand held/controller bundled in? Steamlink/crossplay style support between the two devices. Classic controller NX still available.

Auxillary apps for the console titles are free on the hand held and on mobile. Stuff like SuperMario Maker website and Miitomo apps.

[Soren]

Take a crippling loss on the handheld? You must be confusing Nintendo with some other company.


More rumors. Monolith Productions(Shadow of Mordor) wants a new QA manager with experience with Nintendo Lot Check certification. Probably nothing, but it's better than arguing about buttons.

[supermario2k]

They have released sub-100 handhelds in the past. With the way tech has been adapting lately there is a real belief they could manage that especially if the two are interconnected someway. Here is an idea, what if NX is just Wii U hardware with PS4-esque chipset but all the extra horespower comes from cloud computing? That might even be what Sony is planning with PS4K.

[Fatty The Hutt]

Apparently new Zelda coming to both Wii U and NX, according to Emily Rogers.