Author Topic: New article featuring Shigeru quotes, "the big gun." (Read 10647 times)

nickmitch · « **Reply #25 on:** June 19, 2005, 12:01:24 PM »

Because he woke up. . .

nemo_83 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 19, 2005, 11:36:45 PM »

found this at nintendo.com

"Game Informer- "If you could change one thing about the video game industry, what would it be?"

Shigeru Miyamoto- "I think maybe if I could do anything, I would make it so you don't have to sit in front of a TV and play. If you could have a machine that you just plugged in and played inside a virtual world that - would be just great."

source: Game Informer p. 50 issue 109. "

KDR_11k · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2005, 02:44:01 AM »

Have you heard Kutaragi's quotes about the future of games? Just because they'd like it down't mean they're doing it.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2005, 07:53:43 AM »

Kutaragi is nutts, but I know what you're saying. The difference is that Nintendo has tried their ambitions in the past; Sony has yet to show off a skull cap that can send and recieve brain waves as they claim they want to. One could say the difference is that Miyamoto's ambition of a virtual reality is much more possible. All you need is able graphical hardware and the helmet with left/right eye screens and a gyro inside. Nintendo has already released the VB which could do left/right eye imagery; but lacked the graphical hardware and the motion sensing. Such a device could then be used with any tv, video, pc, or console signal resulting in Nintendo selling lots of helmets not even being used with the console. If this will be affordable (in the price range Nintendo wants) this gen is in the air. Next gen I believe without a shadow of a doubt that vr will finally be shipped with a console.

Nintendo wouldn't have to answer to questions like "why no HD support?" ever again. The hardware would all be self contained. You don't have to worry about playing on your friend's sixteen inch tv when you carry your system over. In other words you don't have to worry about needing multiple tv screens; like Sony is thinking.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2005, 08:06:22 AM »

How would you implement single console multiplayer on that VR console? Expect everyone to bring their own? Sorry pal, that's not how the real world works. In the real world the people who have what you're going to play versus those who don't are a minority unless the game is Counterstrike.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 20, 2005, 07:01:01 PM »

They will have to make any helmet they produce work with any tv, movie, pc, or console signal in order to give people incentive to buy multiple helmets. You could buy several helmets priced at $200 each for the price of one HD tv. You could then reasonably have multiplayer parties with sixteen people on only a few consoles (but no need to worry about number, size, or def of tvs). Everyone will be on a level playing field and noone will be able to see your screen. It also takes you into the virtual world of online easier.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2005, 08:07:26 PM »

"You could buy several helmets priced at $200 each for the price of one HD tv."

Or you could buy an HDTV which unlike a Rev helmet can be used for more than playing Rev games. At $200 each the concept would completely bomb. Connectivity bombed on the Cube because GBA owners didn't want to pay a few bucks for a cable. Do you think the people that wouldn't spend less than $20 would spend $200? The whole idea clashes with Nintendo's talk about having an affordable console. It would pretty silly to drop HD support and then have this incredibly expensive idea as their ace in the hole. Anything with a screen would just cost too much money.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2005, 09:17:59 PM »

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Originally posted by: nemo_83
They will have to make any helmet they produce work with any tv, movie, pc, or console signal in order to give people incentive to buy multiple helmets. You could buy several helmets priced at $200 each for the price of one HD tv.

Ian, I think he meant that the helmets would be able to use the same signal as a TV therefore giving everyone their own personal virtual 200 inch screen.
and....
I thought connectivity died because GC owners like you and me didn't want to have to buy multiple GBA's along with multiple cables to be connectivity ready when friends did come over.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #33 on:** June 20, 2005, 09:53:39 PM »

200? Man those people wouldn't pay 20 to get their own controllers, 200 for a freaking VR helmet that just gives you a headache (because of the short focus distance) and no benefits (I think I've said often enough that I'm depth perception impaired) is just insane. No matter what else it could do, having a helmet on that completely shuts out the outside world is the most antisocial and nerdy thing ever. Never mind what one of your jackass friends could do to you while you're "shut away".

nemo_83 · « **Reply #34 on:** June 21, 2005, 01:56:13 AM »

Connectivity did not work for a lot of reasons. Number one is that when I bought the console it came with a controller with analog sticks; not a GBA. Alas I still bought a GBA, but then sold it long before connectivity saw any real use because I was planning on getting a GBPlayer later when it came out (in other words I sold the GBA to buy a game for Cube). I never bought the Player so I'm considering a Micro now. Anyways there was also the said mess of cords that went along with using GBAs and Cube. Also too few games used it. Few people I knew ever bought a damn GBA so if I planned to play something like FFCC, the bill was all on me. It wasn't standard, and the only good use of it I ever saw was Four Swords on Cube. Connectivity killed the sales of that game and FFCC. It was gimmicky because they couldn't think of a real good idea to use it for so they just pushed it anyways. If a helmet were packaged in with the console it would be standard for REV. All games would use it on all consoles, but only the REV games could depend on it. Nintendo would be reaching across the devides and possibly putting the biggest damn foot in the door of the display industry in many years. Fanboys across the world will buy it just to experience their movies as if they were in an imax theatre for two hundred dollars. Fanboys across all platforms would have to have it for their games. Software developers, special effects companies, and independent developers would buy them as the new interface would allow for speedier work in on virtual objects at a low cost to them.

KDR, hopefully they would include an option allowing one to turn off the 3d; if one were unable to see it or if it were causing a headache. The device could be switched over into another mode though that can treat migraines. There is a treatment currently that involves wearing a pair of goggles that pulsate red light while you rest or sleep. The red light passes through your lids easier than any other color and as it pulsates it treats the light, sound, and motion derived migraines we all get some times. Also I want to say that the next time we need a pair of goggles or a helmet for games, the technology will have advanced years and there will be fewer literal headaches.

stevey · « **Reply #35 on:** June 21, 2005, 03:47:16 AM »

"If you could have a machine that you just plugged in and played inside a virtual world that - would be just great." "

I think he not talking about vr helmet but something like the matrix.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 21, 2005, 07:37:10 AM »

The Matrix and Ghost in the Shell are impossible. You can't plug your brain in. That is why Sony wants to communicate with the brain via waves. Maybe thirty years from now it will work. Going on that idea, in a hundred years you could communicate telepathicly, and you could create/manifest any virtual imagery through thought alone. It would be awesome to see what other peoples' imaginations look like. This though is too far off to even worry about. We'll be dead.

is that a triforce

jasonditz · « **Reply #37 on:** June 21, 2005, 01:46:46 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"You could buy several helmets priced at $200 each for the price of one HD tv."

Or you could buy an HDTV which unlike a Rev helmet can be used for more than playing Rev games. At $200 each the concept would completely bomb. Connectivity bombed on the Cube because GBA owners didn't want to pay a few bucks for a cable. Do you think the people that wouldn't spend less than $20 would spend $200? The whole idea clashes with Nintendo's talk about having an affordable console. It would pretty silly to drop HD support and then have this incredibly expensive idea as their ace in the hole. Anything with a screen would just cost too much money.

To the extent that connectivity "bombed", it was not because of the price of the cable, it was because most of the supported titles sucked, and the couple that made decent use of it were multiplayer-only titles.

Are you seriously insisting that Nintendo never release another addon that costs more than $20?

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #38 on:** June 21, 2005, 02:48:01 PM »

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Originally posted by: nemo_83
The Matrix and Ghost in the Shell are impossible. You can't plug your brain in...

Nothing's impossible.

nickmitch · « **Reply #39 on:** June 21, 2005, 05:50:56 PM »

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Originally posted by: nemo_83

is that a triforce

The home page says "Get inside the game" and if you look at the calender of events. . .

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May 17-19, 2005
Los Angeles Convention Center, Los Angeles, CA
Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) 2005
Exhibitor

Odd. . .

IceCold · « **Reply #40 on:** June 21, 2005, 07:11:29 PM »

Yea, you could set it to work with DVDs etc, but then you'd be in your own world, and you wouldn't be able to talk with everyone else. Sure, you could put a mic in it and use that, but it wouldn't be the same. You expect, when a few friends come over to see the game, to give them each a helmet to watch it? They came over not only for the game, but as much to socialize, eat and talk. This isolates you, and even though it would be good for gaming, I don't think people would use their money to buy it to watch movies etc instead of a HDTV.

Robotor · « **Reply #41 on:** June 21, 2005, 08:23:09 PM »

So in the new Nintendo Power Shiggy is qouted to saying "our competiters better get ready to rumble". SUPAH RUMBLE PACKS!!!!!1

Seriously guys, figures of speech are used to get points across. The idea of a big gun, means a large
advantage over the competitors, i.e. a larger "gun". You're reading way to deep into it.

And helmets are lame...

Dasmos · « **Reply #42 on:** June 21, 2005, 08:53:27 PM »

Helmets are lame??? That's what little jimmy latvia said before he fell off his bicycle........In fact that was the last thing little jimmy ever said.....

KDR_11k · « **Reply #43 on:** June 22, 2005, 12:01:41 AM »

If he wore a VR helmet on his bike he'd have been dead even quicker.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 22, 2005, 01:17:02 AM »

TVMan, they displayed it at E3; but the thing is hella expensive. Nintendo would be better off making something internally. I assume Nintendo could get a good deal on small screens, seeing as how well they do with portables. They have already put the money into Gyration and wifi deals.

Still Miyamoto talks like this is the kind of thing he wishes he could do right now. It is more like talk of what they might be looking at doing in the future. The only reason I posted the Emagin link was because some nutt on nintendo.com is claiming to have inside information that Emagin is making Nintendo a "visor."

Dirk, there are lots of things physiological impossible. They would use nanobots before they would put a port in the back of you medula.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #45 on:** June 22, 2005, 08:01:33 AM »

It is possible to make electronics interface with neurons so if the internal language of the CNS was cracked we could insert artificial dreams into the system. It's already possible to interface a prothesis with the neurons in the stump and it's possible to control a cockroach with an implant. Remember, fifty years ago it was deemed impossible to make a computer small enough for home use and even less likely for them to hit mainstream.

jasonditz · « **Reply #46 on:** June 22, 2005, 08:23:54 AM »

Wait... Kicking Ass...

Its a boot-based controller.

nemo_83 · « **Reply #47 on:** June 22, 2005, 09:37:45 AM »

emag revo/game over

That link leads to speculated concepts for REV advertising. They look like ass, but the image with the reflection struck me. How often do fans come up with something so clever? In reverse it says Emag (eMagin) Revo (revolution). While normally it says, game over. Earlier I noticed that eMagin could be rearanged to InGame.

nickmitch · « **Reply #48 on:** June 22, 2005, 09:39:09 AM »

And a pen!
For taking names.

jasonditz · « **Reply #49 on:** June 22, 2005, 11:51:37 AM »

ooh... how about a graphics tablet?

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Author Topic: New article featuring Shigeru quotes, "the big gun." (Read 10647 times)