Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Chozo Ghost]

The Wii has quite a few records to beat yet. Surpassing the Gameboy,  PS1, and PS2 are all next on the agenda.

Then it will have a real fight on its hands to overtake the DS (which I do not think it can do).

[TJ Spyke]

It's possible that the Wii already beat the Game Boy, we don't know though since Nintendo combined Game Boy and Game Boy Color sales together.

[BlackNMild2k1]

well they are the same system after all....

[Mop it up]

Not this again...

The Wii will never surpass the DS because 1) families tend to buy more than one per household, and 2) hardware revisions mean there are plenty of repeat buyers.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Sheeeeeeiiiiiiit. We haven't even gotten different color Wiis yet. I can only imagine how many people are holding off for a black Wii or would double dip to get one.

Then there is Pink, Blue, Green & Red Wiis that we haven't heard a mention of since E3 2006.

[Mop it up]

I think the number of people who would buy another system just for a different colour is minuscule, especially because of the amount of important data which can't be transferred to another system.

[BlackNMild2k1]

 but imagine all the people that would buy one for the girls room because it was pink or the people that have been playing someone elses and now that they see it in black or blue would just bite the bullet and get one for themselves.

There is a huge untapped consumer base out there that would get one just because or because the price was right. wait till the Wii is only $99.99. At this same point in time the Wii is selling faster then the DS and the DS is way past it's prime, but they both still have lots of room on the price.

Picture the frenzy at Xmas 2011 when the DSi is only $99, the Wii is $149 and you can get either of them in a nice range of colors.

Outsell the DS or not, the DS/Wii combo have the potential to be the #1/#2 best selling game systems ever.

[Chozo Ghost]

Not this again...

The Wii will never surpass the DS because 1) families tend to buy more than one per household, and 2) hardware revisions mean there are plenty of repeat buyers.

And aside from that, the DS came out 2 years before the Wii so it has a good head start. Plus the DS' sales are continuing to increase and aren't showing any signs of slowing down.

I think the DS is destined to be the number one system of all time. The Wii has no hope of ever overtaking it, but it could become 2nd.

[BlackNMild2k1]

"Needless to say, these are just two milestones of a larger journey in our efforts to reach the ultimate goal of bringing one home console for every household and one handheld for everyone," Nintendo president Satoru Iwata explained in his presentation.

Wii and Nintendo DS Outsell NES and GameBoy

Having updated its lifetime hardware sales figures, Nintendo today confirmed that the Wii has outsold the Nintendo Entertainment System--making Wii the "best selling Nintendo home videogame console of all time"--while the Nintendo DS has replaced the GameBoy as its best-selling hardware of all time.

"Needless to say, these are just two milestones of a larger journey in our efforts to reach the ultimate goal of bringing one home console for every household and one handheld for everyone," Nintendo president Satoru Iwata explained in his presentation.

Wii Sports and New Super Mario Bros. DS

A breakdown of some top-selling Wii and Nintendo DS games accompanied the revelation, with the original Wii Sports--bundled with Wii hardware everywhere except Japan, where it is sold seperately--now at 60.69 million copies worldwide.

      Nintendo DS Software - Lifetime Sales of Select Titles
          o Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver - 3.7 million
          o Pokemon Platinum - 6.86 million
          o New Super Mario Bros. - 21.39 million
          o Tomodachi Collection - 2.74 million
          o Mario Kart DS - 17.28 million
          o The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - 2.45 million
          o Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box - 2.23 million
          o Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - 2.62 million
          o Professor Layton and the Curious Village - 3.04 million
          o Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky - 1.33 million
          o Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day - 18.59 million

      Wii Software - Lifetime Sales of Select Titles
          o Wii Sports - 60.60 million
          o Wii Sports Resort - 13.58 million
          o New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 10.55 million
          o Wii Fit Plus - 10.16 million
          o Mario Kart Wii - 21.22 million
          o Wii Fit - 22.56 million
          o Wii Play - 26.71 million

As for the relevant portion of Iwata's presentation, here's what he had to say:

    Family Computer System, called Nintendo Entertainment System or NES in short in overseas markets, had sold 61.91 million units, which was the largest unit sales figure for any Nintendo home videogame consoles.

    The cumulative sales of Wii hardware from Nintendo to our distributors and retail customers reached 67.45 million units as of the end of December 2009. It has replaced NES to become the best selling Nintendo home videogame console of all time.

    Among handheld hardware, GameBoy series have sold through 118.69 million units in total since the launch, which was the largest unit sales figure among all Nintendo's hardware products.

    As of the end of December 2009, when Wii marked the record LTD sales as the number one selling Nintendo home console, the life-to-date shipments of Nintendo DS series reached 125.13 million units, which has now become largest sales figure among all of the Nintendo's videogame hardware.

    Needless to say, these are just two milestones of a larger journey in our efforts to reach the ultimate goal of bringing one home console for every household and one handheld for everyone.

Straight from the horses mouth.

[TJ Spyke]

Um, we already had all the info you just quoted. What is new?

[BlackNMild2k1]

It's being reported by somewhere and with a quote from Iwata.

We didn't have a quote from Iwata acknowledging the change of the guard.

[SalesBot]

Nintendo Charts of Everything

[BlackNMild2k1]

Million-sellers on Nintendo platforms:

Nintendo 64
Total: 41
Nintendo-published: 29
Third-party: 12

GameCube
Total: 26
Nintendo-published: 19
Third-party: 7

Wii
Total: 39 (Wii Sports excluded)
Nintendo-published: 21
Third-party: 18

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

This is from April 2009 (can't find the one from Sept.*)
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/vgsales/images/f/f5/Wii_million_sellers_2.jpg
*IIRC Sept. had
Nintendo - 21 
3rd Parties - 45

Well, here it is. Just what I was looking for;

Nintendo Charts of Everything

and I was pretty damn close on the amount 3rd parties had.

[TJ Spyke]

What's a "sleep user"?

[Mop it up]

What games are those third-party million-sellers, though? That's the question which needs to be answered in order to give us an idea of what does or doesn't sell on Wii.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I'm sure lots of it is garbage, but if there had been good games in their place, then 3rd parties wouldn't be having the problems that they are having today.
<insert reference to The 3rd Party Wall of Shame here>

[BeautifulShy]

What's a "sleep user"?

I think that is another term for Lapsed game. Someone that played games before and stopped than started again.

[Stratos]

sleeper gamer = casual maybe? They buy games for a season then 'sleep' for a while and then go on a buying spree down the road again (aka the Giftmas gamer)?

What games are those third-party million-sellers, though? That's the question which needs to be answered in order to give us an idea of what does or doesn't sell on Wii.

For reference here is the VG Chartz list of Million sellers on Wii:

1    Wii Sports
2    Wii Play
3    Wii Fit
4    Mario Kart Wii
5    Wii Sports Resort    Nintendo   
6    New Super Mario Bros. Wii
7    Wii Fit Plus   
8    Super Smash Bros. Brawl
9    Super Mario Galaxy   
10    Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
11    Mario Party 8
12    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
13    Link's Crossbow Training
14    Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
15    Animal Crossing: City Folk
16    Carnival Games   
17    Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
18    Guitar Hero: World Tour
19    LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga   
20    Super Paper Mario
21    Wii Music
22    Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
23    EA Sports Active
24    WarioWare: Smooth Moves
25    Sonic and the Secret Rings
26    Mario Strikers Charged
27    Game Party
28    Deca Sports
29    My Fitness Coach
30    Rayman Raving Rabbids 2
31    Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
32    Rayman Raving Rabbids
33    Rayman Raving Rabbids: TV Party
34    LEGO Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
35    Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
36    MySims
37    High School Musical: Sing It!
38    Big Beach Sports
39    Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
40    Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip
41    Sonic Unleashed
42    Lego Batman: The Videogame
43    Pokémon Battle Revolution
44    Call of Duty: World at War
45    Cooking Mama: Cook Off
46    Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
47    Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08
48    Rock Band
49    We Ski
50    Active Life: Outdoor Challenge
51    Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
52    Call of Duty 3
53    Game Party 2
54    Smarty Pants
55    Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 All-Play
56    Hannah Montana: Spotlight World Tour
57    Mario Super Sluggers
58    Dance Dance Revolution: Hottest Party
59    Red Steel
60    Star Wars The Clone Wars: Lightsaber Duels
61    The House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return
62    New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis
63    Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
64    Ben 10: Protector of Earth
65    Monopoly
66    MySims Kingdom
67    Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
68    Carnival Games: Mini Golf
69    Just Dance
70    The Beatles: Rock Band   
71    Boom Blox   
72    Jillian Michaels' Fitness Ultimatum 2009   
73    Monster Hunter Tri       
74    FIFA 08   
75    Punch-Out!!

[Kairon]

What's a "sleep user"?

I think that is another term for Lapsed game. Someone that played games before and stopped than started again.

According to the transcript of Iwata's presentation, a sleep user is someone who hasn't played a game for a year.

[Mop it up]

For reference here is the VG Chartz list of Million sellers on Wii:

Wow. That's certainly not a list that's going to convince third-parties of anything...

[Kairon]

MMMMmmm... lists. I love lists.

Apparently, I own 32 of those supposed million sellers. But I'm also like "WAH?" There's House of the Dead 2 + 3 on there! And Star Wars: Clone Wars: Lightsaber Duels! Interesting guesstimates from VGChartz, to say the least.

[Stratos]

Games like Clone Wars and MotD 2+3 were always reported to be sleeper hits I think. This includes worldwide sales and its interesting to see what ones had more sales in 'other' regions.

I only own about 12, but there are also 8 I plan on getting eventually.

[SalesBot]

Chart Track - Week 4, 2010

UK: Week 4, 2010 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (__) 360 Mass Effect 2 (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) WII Just Dance (Ubisoft)
03 (__) PS3 Mag (Sony Computer Ent.)
04 (03) WII Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
05 (02) WII Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
06 (04) 360 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
07 (__) PC Mass Effect 2 (Electronic Arts)
08 (06) PS3 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
09 (07) WII New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
10 (08) WII Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
11 (09) 360 Forza Motorsport 3 (Microsoft)
12 (05) 360 Army Of Two: The 40th Day (Electronic Arts)
13 (12) PC Football Manager 2010 (Sega)
14 (11) WII Wii Play (Nintendo)
15 (13) 360 Assassin's Creed Ii (Ubisoft)
16 (18) PS3 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Sony Computer Ent.)
17 (14) PS3 Assassin's Creed Ii (Ubisoft)
18 (16) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
19 (21) PS3 Fifa 10 (Electronic Arts)
20 (19) 360 Fifa 10 (Electronic Arts)
21 (10) PS3 Army Of Two: The 40th Day (Electronic Arts)
22 (20) 360 Grand Theft Auto Episodes - Liberty City (Take 2)
23 (17) WII Mario & Sonic At Olympic Winter Games (Sega)
24 (27) 360 Lego Batman: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)
25 (23) 360 James Cameron's Avatar: The Game (Ubisoft)
26 (29) 360 Pure (Disney Interactive Studios)
27 (25) 360 Borderlands (Take 2)
28 (24) NDS Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
29 (34) WII Ea Sports Active (Electronic Arts)
30 (30) NDS Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
31 (15) 360 Darksiders (Thq)
32 (40) PS3 Grand Theft Auto Iv (Take 2)
33 (__) 360 Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (Codemasters)
34 (__) WII James Cameron's Avatar: The Game (Ubisoft)
35 (33) NDS Professor Layton And Pandora's Box (Nintendo)
36 (26) PS3 Darksiders (Thq)
37 (__) WII Tatsunoko Vs Capcom: Ultimate All-stars (Capcom)
38 (__) NDS Puzzler World (Ubisoft)
39 (28) PS3 James Cameron's Avatar: The Game (Ubisoft)
40 (37) NDS Mario & Sonic At Olympic Winter Games (Sega)

Ireland: Week 4, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)
01 (__) Mass Effect 2 (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
03 (03) Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Achttp://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/Themes/core/images/bbc/unformat.giftivision Blizzard)
04 (05) New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
05 (__) Mag (Sony Computer Ent.)
06 (04) Army Of Two: The 40th Day (Electronic Arts)
07 (02) Fifa 10 (Electronic Arts)
08 (07) Just Dance (Ubisoft)
09 (06) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
10 (11) James Cameron's Avatar: The Game (Ubisoft)
11 (08) Assassin's Creed Ii (Ubisoft)
12 (10) Mario & Sonic At Olympic Winter Games (Sega)
13 (12) Lego Batman: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)
14 (14) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
15 (__) Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 (Konami)
16 (09) Darksiders (Thq)
17 (20) Bayonetta (Sega)
18 (__) Football Manager 2010 (Sega)
19 (__) Grand Theft Auto Iv (Take 2)
20 (17) Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures (Lucasarts)

Denmark: Week 4, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)
01 (__) Mass Effect 2 (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
03 (__) Mario & Sonic At Olympic Winter Games (Pan Vision)
04 (07) Fifa 10 (Electronic Arts)
05 (01) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
06 (11) New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
07 (06) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
08 (04) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
09 (__) Guitar Hero Iii: Legends Of Rock (Activision Blizzard)
10 (08) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
11 (09) Army Of Two: The 40th Day (Electronic Arts)
12 (10) Just Dance (Ubisoft)
13 (12) Counter-strike: Source (Electronic Arts)
14 (16) Lego Batman: The Videogame (Pan Vision)
15 (03) Wii Play (Nintendo)
16 (18) Assassin's Creed Ii (Ubisoft)
17 (__) Dragon Age: Origins (Electronic Arts)
18 (__) Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
19 (__) Need For Speed: Shift (Electronic Arts)
20 (17) Grand Theft Auto Iv (K.e. Media)

Netherlands: Week 4, 2010
01 (01) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
02 (02) [PS3] Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
03 (__) [360] Mass Effect 2 (Electronic Arts)
04 (03) [360] Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
05 (04) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
06 (06) [PC] Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
07 (05) [WII] Mario & Sonic At Olympic Winter Games (Sega)
08 (__) [NDS] Mario & Sonic At Olympic Winter Games (Sega)
09 (09) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
10 (10) [PS3] Fifa 10 (Electronic Arts)

France: Week 3, 2010
01 (01) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
03 (03) [PS3] Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 (Activision)
04 (05) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
05 (04) [PS3] Darksiders (Thq)



Finland: Week 3 + 4, 2010
01 (__) Mass Effect 2 (Electronic Arts)
02 (01) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision-Blizzard)
03 (07) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
04 (__) MAG: Massive Action Game (Sony)
05 (03) NHL 10 (Electronic Arts)
06 (02) Singstar SuomiPop (Sony)
07 (04) New Super Mario Bros (Nintendo)
08 (08) LEGO Indiana Jones 2: The Adventure Continues (Activision-Blizzard)
09 (__) Vancouver 2010 (Sega)
10 (09) Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (Sega)


Sweden: Week 2, 2010
01 (01) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii
02 (__) [360] Army Of Two: The 40th Day
03 (02) [PC] Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
04 (__) [PS3] Army Of Two: The 40th Day
05 (03) [PS3] Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
06 (05) [360] Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
07 (07) [WII] Mario Kart Wii
08 (04) [WII] Wii Sports: Resort
09 (06) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros.
10 (10) [PC] Left 4 Dead 2
11 (12) [PS3] FIFA 10
12 (16) [PC] Counter-Strike 1: Anthology
13 (08) [PC] The Sims 3
14 (__) [PC] World of Warcraft
15 (__) [WII] Just Dance
16 (19) [PS3] Darksiders
17 (__) [360] Left 4 Dead 2
18 (__) [PC] World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
19 (__) [WII] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
20 (17) [PS3] NHL 10

Week 3, 2010
01 (03) [PC] Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
02 (01) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii
03 (05) [PS3] Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
04 (06) [360] Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
05 (09) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros.
06 (07) [WII] Mario Kart Wii
07 (08) [WII] Wii Sports: Resort
08 (12) [PC] Counter-Strike 1: Anthology
09 (04) [PS3] Army Of Two: The 40th Day
10 (02) [360] Army Of Two: The 40th Day
11 (14) [PC] World of Warcraft
12 (11) [PS3] FIFA 10
13 (10) [PC] Left 4 Dead 2
14 (13) [PC] The Sims 3
15 (18) [PC] World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
16 (__) [PS3] Assassin's Creed 2
17 (__) [PC] World of Warcraft Battlechest
18 (__) [PC] The Sims 3 Destination Världen
19 (__) [WII] Wii Fit
20 (__) [WII] Wii Fit Plus

[Peachylala]

Glad to see Tatsunoko vs. Capcom in the top 40 sales. It should be higher though. Higher sales convinces Capcom to make that Nintendo vs. Capcom.

[SalesBot]

Third party LTD sales in the US:




Average sales per title (Oct, Nov, Dec and only Dec; 1st and 3rd party):



Total sold (Dec / Oct + Nov + Dec):

WII - 24,917,650 / 37,193,384
360 - 9,763,068 / 22,026,671
PS3 - 7,281,459 / 15,090,380


Average sales per title (3rd party):




And... Average sales per title (3rd party, excluding MW2):