Topic: Official Sales Thread

[NWR_pap64]

Yeah, the VGchartz numbers might be unofficial, but they tend to be pretty close to the final numbers.

Remember, just because games don't chart it doesn't mean they aren't selling.

Also I think people are just weary of plopping down $50 for a pretty standard length lightgun shooter. My guess is once the price is lowered to $30 it will sell quite well like the compilation did.

Yes, the compilation was a budget title aimed at people who are nostalgic towards the series thanks to it being everywhere. Overkill is definitely aimed at the core audience. I mean, the Grindhouse concept is pretty obscure and one only the niche can understand and accept.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Yeah, the VGchartz numbers might be unofficial, but they tend to be pretty close to the final numbers.

Remember, just because games don't chart it doesn't mean they aren't selling.

I remember when VGChartz was created. If you're trying to be accurate, VGC isn't what you should use, they were using 1st day sales and trends to predict sales and correct them when more info is known. The only reason their number are close to final numbers because they are adjusted after the final number come out. They avoided(well tried to atleast) lots of scrutiny by not matching their numbers up exactly with official numbers, that's why no one takes their numbers seriously.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Yeah, the VGchartz numbers might be unofficial, but they tend to be pretty close to the final numbers.

Remember, just because games don't chart it doesn't mean they aren't selling.

I remember when VGChartz was created. If you're trying to be accurate, VGC isn't what you should use, they were using 1st day sales and trends to predict sales and correct them when more info is known. The only reason their number are close to final numbers because they are adjusted after the final number come out. They avoided(well tried to atleast) lots of scrutiny by not matching their numbers up exactly with official numbers, that's why no one takes their numbers seriously.

Except I've been watching them lately and their numbers for things under 250k or so are around 30k either way when final numbers are released and when you hit 900k or so they can be as much as 200k either way off. These HOTDO numbers don't sound unrealistic. VGchartz is alot like Wikipedia, you hear people scoff all the time at their reliability but rarely have the statistics to prove it is as reliable as the claims make them out to be.

[ShyGuy]

HOTD:OK had a decent marketing push too, it's a little disappointing. No, wait. You know what's disappointing? The lesson that third parties will take away from this not going to be: Rail Shooters have a limited audience on the Wii, but that hard core games don't sell on the Wii. RAIL SHOOTERS ARE NOT A HARDCORE GENRE

[GoldenPhoenix]

http://www.edge-online.com/news/house-dead-overkill-sells-45k

There we go, HOTD: O sold 45k, VGchartz said 70k which falls within the margin of error that I've noticed with them.

[BlackNMild2k1]

http://www.edge-online.com/news/house-dead-overkill-sells-45k

There we go, HOTD: O sold 45k, VGchartz said 70k which falls within the margin of error that I've noticed with them.

But that is 25k off. That is a HUGE miscalculation. There are off by more than 50% of what it actually sold. 25k wouldn't be a big deal if we were talking 6-700k+ in total sales but when we are talking 45k, being 25k off is unacceptable lolworthy.

[GoldenPhoenix]

http://www.edge-online.com/news/house-dead-overkill-sells-45k

There we go, HOTD: O sold 45k, VGchartz said 70k which falls within the margin of error that I've noticed with them.

But that is 25k off. That is a HUGE miscalculation. There are off by more than 50% of what it actually sold. 25k wouldn't be a big deal if we were talking 6-700k+ in total sales but when we are talking 45k, being 25k off is unacceptable lolworthy.

Twist it how you want but that is exactly how I explained it, not to mention the fact that these are probably from the beginning of the month, so it maybe far closer to that number then you may think. VGchartz does the best they can do with the limited information they have. They are accurate enough to determine (For the most part) if a game was a bomb, moderate success or success.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I have nothing against VGChartz, I just don't like to use them as anything considered accurate or fact.
They are like the WWE, while a lot of the things they do are real, don't take it too seriously cause its all for entertainment purposes only.

[DAaaMan64]

The game came out at the wrong time. I still haven't been able to pick it up.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I hope it turns out to be a slow burner, and starts to pick up more interest when it drops to under $40, but I  think the magic price point will be $30.

[Stratos]

I hope it turns out to be a slow burner, and starts to pick up more interest when it drops to under $40, but I  think the magic price point will be $30.

But the problem is that if if the price drops too low then the company won't be making much money off the game and may not be able to break even.

[BlackNMild2k1]

But they will have more brand recognition and hype for a sequel that will hopefully sell more at full price.
They can also retool HOTD1 for WiiWare and make up the difference

[Stratos]

But they will have more brand recognition and hype for a sequel that will hopefully sell more at full price.
They can also retool HOTD1 for WiiWare and make up the difference

If it doesn't make enough money they won't care.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I really doubt the budget was that huge for HOTD:O so I can see them breaking even with a price drop.

[Stratos]

I really doubt the budget was that huge for HOTD:O so I can see them breaking even with a price drop.

I guess. I'm still worried companies are going to look at the Feb Trio and decide good original 3rd party core games are not profitable on Wii.

[BlackNMild2k1]

How well was it marketed?
I remember seeing a commercial once, but I mostly watch recorded DVR shows so I usually zip past most commercials.

[ShyGuy]

I saw a commercial a couple times and I don't watch much TV. Gamestop I think actually did some promotion for it.

[KDR_11k]

I really doubt the budget was that huge for HOTD:O so I can see them breaking even with a price drop.

The budget doesn't matter directly for the optimal price. It depends on how many people will buy it at each price.

[ShyGuy]

The only rail shooter I would pay $50 for is Duck Hunt Wii with the ability to shoot the dog.

[BlackNMild2k1]

The only rail shooter I would pay $50 for is Duck Hunt Wii with the ability to shoot the dog.

But thats not a rail shooter. Its a gallery shooter, like Wii Play Shooter or Hogans Alley.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Hogan's Alley needs to come back.  But not as a gallery shooter, more like Hogan's Backstreets of Metro City or something.

[BlackNMild2k1]

a rail shooter in a GTA like setting? ...could be fun.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Starring Hulk Hogan.

[Chozo Ghost]

But the problem is that if if the price drops too low then the company won't be making much money off the game and may not be able to break even.

Well, if you sell 100,000 copies at $50 then you've made $5 million.

However, if you lower the price down to $30 and this spurs sales forward and you sell like a million copies, then you've just made $30 million.

So even though a company makes less money per copy, they will still make more money as a whole due to selling far more copies. Far more people are willing to buy a game at $29,99 than they are at $49.99

[KDR_11k]

I don't think we have enough data to say how many more would buy it at 30$ and how many of those can't be reached simply by dropping the price later.