Author Topic: Brawl Delayed to February in N. America (Read 24567 times)

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #100 on:** October 11, 2007, 06:12:36 PM »

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Bowser better be cool, it is sad seeing my favorite character get beat up in Melee all the time. Even I played as Donkey Kong most of the time, and in a way I feel I betrayed him!

I specifically played as him because I knew no one else liked him, but I do hope they balance heavy characters this time around.

I'm sick of the small, quick characters being top tier all the time.

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Bowser HAS a killer final smash you know...

You really can't count that in his balance. If the character is crap to start with, the odds that they'll make it to a Smash Ball ahead of better, faster characters is somewhat slim.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #101 on:** October 11, 2007, 06:26:14 PM »

I mention it because one of the previews mentions that smash balls could balance certain characters out (strong character-tricky FS, weak character-strong FS).

Plus, Giga Bowser is hard to bully around

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GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #102 on:** October 11, 2007, 06:27:59 PM »

With all the neck snapping going on, I hope Giga Bowser can eat players.

NinjaWang · « **Reply #103 on:** October 11, 2007, 06:39:49 PM »

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What makes this even worse is that they probably had the dojo updates scheduled based on the earlier date, so they are probably even going to run out of those.

Dunno about that, Gamespot has a 10 min video interview with one of the Treehouse guys, says that there is tons of stuff and modes we don't know about

Jonnyboy117 · « **Reply #104 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:03:09 PM »

I think it's really funny that this thread has twice as many replies as the one about Sonic being in the game.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #105 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:07:32 PM »

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I think it's really funny that this thread has twice as many replies as the one about Sonic being in the game.

No one likes Sonic anymore, he has been defiling himself for past several years!

Arbok · « **Reply #106 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:14:23 PM »

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I think it's really funny that this thread has twice as many replies as the one about Sonic being in the game.

But like 40% of them are directed at Melee rather than Brawl being delayed... >_>

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #107 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:14:48 PM »

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I mention it because one of the previews mentions that smash balls could balance certain characters out (strong character-tricky FS, weak character-strong FS).

Wait, was that a Nintendo-official preview or a journalism opinion?!

Arbok · « **Reply #108 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:24:19 PM »

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I mention it because one of the previews mentions that smash balls could balance certain characters out (strong character-tricky FS, weak character-strong FS).

Wait, was that a Nintendo-official preview or a journalism opinion?!

Well, if they are as common as they look to be in the recent videos... although I'm praying to god that it was set up like that simply to demonstrate the different powers in short two minute matches.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #109 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:25:51 PM »

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I mention it because one of the previews mentions that smash balls could balance certain characters out (strong character-tricky FS, weak character-strong FS).

Wait, was that a Nintendo-official preview or a journalism opinion?!

Opinion. The guy noticed that some of the weaker characters had some really strong final smashes (like Peach) while strong ones had some tricky ones.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #110 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:41:23 PM »

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Opinion. The guy noticed that some of the weaker characters had some really strong final smashes (like Peach) while strong ones had some tricky ones.

Whew.

Thing is, Peach was 2nd tier in Melee but you wouldn't know that unless you were experienced with her. I suspect these guys just don't know how to use her effectively.

I'd personally prefer that characters are balanced around just being themselves, not how their final smashes/item usage works. If you turn off items, it means they're automatically borked.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #111 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:43:05 PM »

Thankfully I don't play in tournaments and probably won't notice as many balance issues if there are any.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #112 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:49:23 PM »

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Thankfully I don't play in tournaments and probably won't notice as many balance issues if there are any.

Well, I'm considering it for the sake of if my friends and I decide that the Smash Balls are obnoxious and way too common.

IceCold · « **Reply #113 on:** October 11, 2007, 07:49:36 PM »

If you're going to call Melee rushed, you can call every single game ever made rushed. You can always keep delaying a game to make it better, but at some point you have to consider diminishing returns. There's a plateau where adding and improving just isn't worth it, especially considering the context of the console it's released on. Melee reached that plateau. It, along with F-Zero GX and Pikmin 2 are the only GameCube games that deserve pure, unadulterated 10s. (Sunshine and Eternal Darkness are millimetres away)

Also, it's funny how you guys are criticising such minor stuff from Brawl, rather than things that actually matter like the gameplay. GP, if I were to nitpick Power Stone 2's flaws as throughly as you're doing to Melee, I'd probably die at my computer.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #114 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:04:37 PM »

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If you're going to call Melee rushed, you can call every single game ever made rushed. You can always keep delaying a game to make it better, but at some point you have to consider diminishing returns. There's a plateau where adding and improving just isn't worth it, especially considering the context of the console it's released on. Melee reached that plateau. It, along with F-Zero GX and Pikmin 2 are the only GameCube games that deserve pure, unadulterated 10s. (Sunshine and Eternal Darkness are millimetres away)

Also, it's funny how you guys are criticising such minor stuff from Brawl, rather than things that actually matter like the gameplay. GP, if I were to nitpick Power Stone 2's flaws as throughly as you're doing to Melee, I'd probably die at my computer.

That's funny, I thought I liked SSB: M, so because I hate the clones and feel they are a sign of rushed product, I hate it? I really don't see the clones as Nitpicking considering they are the most important aspect of the game, the FIGHTERS. In fact, I believe I only stated that my problem with the game was the clones and that the single player wasn't that great. Didn't realize that was nitpicking things. Perhaps you should read what I said instead of making me out to be this uber SSB: M hater. Guess what, as much as I love Powerstone 2 I'll admit the game wasn't as polished and as complete as I hoped either.

Arbok · « **Reply #115 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:19:51 PM »

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That's funny, I thought I liked SSB: M, so because I hate the clones and feel they are a sign of rushed product, I hate it? ... Perhaps you should read what I said instead of making me out to be this uber SSB: M hater.

Errr... irony?

Icecold never once said you hated or disliked Melee in his post.

IceCold · « **Reply #116 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:20:37 PM »

Hmm? When did I call you a hater? Is there the word "hate" in my post? Perhaps you should read what I said.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #117 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:29:17 PM »

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Hmm? When did I call you a hater? Is there the word "hate" in my post? Perhaps you should read what I said.

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Also, it's funny how you guys are criticising such minor stuff from Brawl, rather than things that actually matter like the gameplay.

That is an obvious example of you implying it. Besides you may have noticed the topic moved on, so I'm going to let it move on. Reasons were stated by both sides and it is over, you can keep bringing it up but you'll be talking to yourself.

Crimm · « **Reply #118 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:33:04 PM »

Why are we all getting bent out of shape over this again?

Hater?
Rushed?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #119 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:34:15 PM »

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Why are we all getting bent out of shape over this again?

Hater?
Rushed?

Things were getting back on track until SOMEONE decided to bring it up all over again. Personally I can't stand rapid fans no matter the series, so that is why I get involved. Besides Pale is the one that got it off track, we were talking about the good ole days when Nintendo delayed stuff compared to the GC era, then Pale responded saying Melee was near perfect, and pap gave his reasons why it wasn't, then Pale said Pap tried to hate the game, along with other accusations that Smash_Brothers started the whole thing, and everyone was following his lead.

Crimm · « **Reply #120 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:37:20 PM »

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Personally I can't stand rapid fans no matter the series

I too hate fast people.
But let's get back on the topic at hand. I'll start:

SAKURAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #121 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:39:48 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Personally I can't stand rapid fans no matter the series

I too hate fast people.
But let's get back on the topic at hand. I'll start:

SAKURAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

Fine, it looks like Nintendo delayed SSB:B to put in picture taking!

Arbok · « **Reply #122 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:47:16 PM »

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Fine, it looks like Nintendo delayed SSB:B to put in picture taking!

Rumor has it that the delay was to put in a bald, partially metallic, Alice Krige in the game... but then they saw this thread...

Crimm · « **Reply #123 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:52:23 PM »

You all know we were do a major Nintendo delayed release. When was the last one? Well, I guess it depends on if you count Twil...wait no that would be Metroid Prime 3...then Twilight Princess...then... oh damn Galaxy is so getting pushed back.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #124 on:** October 11, 2007, 08:53:15 PM »

Mario "It may be out on launch or within 6 months of launch" Galaxy

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