Topic: Wii U - e3 is over... now what?

[pokepal148]

somebody just put this whole thing in the funhouse titled
"oblivion is wrong"
this is almost as bad as my advanced wars thread of destruction

[Adrock]

You quoted the wrong post of mine. Because that picture you showed me doesn't say anything about developers can take advantage of UE4 if they want. Nice try, though.

No, I didn't. Rein said, "We're not..." (which I included in the screenshot). Epic won't run it themselves and if it can be run on smartphones and Wii U is more powerful than smartphones... Read between the lines, man.

[gbuell]

Because that picture you showed me doesn't say anything about developers can take advantage of UE4 if they want.

It doesn't say developers CAN'T. Yet, you claim they can't. The one without evidence to support his claim is you.


Also, believe it or not, blogs occasionally get stories wrong, or draw overly broad conclusions from vague information. Even Kotaku!!

[Shorty McNostril]

*Waits for "Arkham Origins for Wii U Cancelled" headline.*

[Caterkiller]

I'm more concerned about Nintendo being the laughing stock at that little meeting. That was a cold reaction towards Nintendo and for the Epic guy to say it like that so openly, man I don't know... When something big(good or bad) happens between Nintendo or Epic I expect this to be the turning point.

[Adrock]

That's exact response I would expect from Rein. He did take it back though so I don't think there's bad blood there. He's being Mark Rein.

I really don't think there's anything Nintendo could have done. Had they put better specs (like PS4 level), I feel like third parties would have just kept pulling the "controller is too unique" card.

[gbuell]

So, like... http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/29/mark-rein-interview-gdc-2013/

[BlackNMild2k1]

So, like... http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/29/mark-rein-interview-gdc-2013/

In so many words, the more platforms that Unreal Engine variants can go, the better for Epic (as well as for engine licensees, of course). "It's a good place to be -- we try to support everything we can. We have to place some timed bets on things that we feel are gonna be the most important to licensees, and also to us where we're taking games. But because the engine is portable -- it's written in C++ -- a licensee can take and do whatever they want," he said.

During the presentation the day before, another journalist asked if Unreal Engine 4 would work on Nintendo's Wii U -- a console that straddles the line between next-gen and the current one in terms of horsepower. "Hahahaha, no," he responded, which sent a wave of laughter through the room of journalists. But that's not technically true, he admitted the next day, walking back his gaffe. "You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U," he said. "If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen." While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a "true" next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.

Also did no one quote the beginning section of that Kotaku article on purpose, or was it not there when Oblivion was arguing himself in a corner?
I know it was brought up, but it was right in the article too.

The Wii U uses hardware that's more or less as powerful as the current Xbox 360 or PS3. It's certainly still more powerful than your average mobile device. Epic has been unclear about the Wii U's support for UE4 in the past, with Epic co-founder Mark Rein telling Videogamer that Epic doesn't intend to bring the engine to Wii U, but that "if a customer decides they want to port an Unreal Engine 4 game to Wii U, they could."

I figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"

"Hahaha no." Rein said, with expert comedic timing. The room erupted with laughter. As the laughs died down, Rein continued: "I mean, sorry, it's not really a correct answer. We're not… we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That's really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it's powering some of the best games on the Wii U already.

I'm not sure how that discussion got so heated when it's all right there in the article. But the new article clears it up w/o a doubt for that (read: Oblivion) didn't quite get it the first time around.

[Stogi]

Title = Article.

[Caterkiller]

Title = Article.

Exactly.

And looks like you were right about the extra details you mentioned so long ago BlackNMild.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Which details were those?

[Caterkiller]

Which details were those?

You told me it would be scalable to PS3 and 360 as well.

[BlackNMild2k1]

ahhh, those details.

[shingi_70]

So is the launch window closed yet?

[Soren]

Nintendo defined the launch window as running until the end of March. So yes, the launch window has ended.

The games that were announced for launch window but failed to make the date:
-Aliens: Colonial Marines (Sega)
-Game and Wario (Nintendo)
-Pikmin 3 (Nintendo)
-The Wonderful 101 (Nintendo)
-Wii Fit U (Nintendo)
-Jett Tailfin (Maximum Games)
-Rayman Legends (Ubisoft)
-Toki Tori 2 (Two Tribes)
-Zumba Fitness Core (Majesco)

[Nemo]

This is the first time I didn't get a Nintendo console or handheld during launch window since N64. (1996)

Thanks, student loans!

[azeke]

Since this seems to be the thread for general news:
http://www.gamefocus.ca/news/19668.html

Batman Arkham Origins has just been announced for PC, Wii U, PS3 and Xbox 360! Set several years before the previous chapters in the series, the story will put you in the shoes of a younger Batman. Players will meet many of the franchise’s most important characters for the first time and even develop important relationships with them.

 Alongside the main game, a spinoff title called Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate will be available for 3DS and Vita platforms. Both games will be available on October 25th of this year,00 and will be developed by WB Games Montreal, rather than series creator Rocksteady. Stay tuned to Gamefocus for more details on the game!

I wonder what kind of game this handheld spinoff gonna be...

[alegoicoe]

Nintendo defined the launch window as running until the end of March. So yes, the launch window has ended.

The games that were announced for launch window but failed to make the date:
-Aliens: Colonial Marines (Sega)
-Game and Wario (Nintendo)
-Pikmin 3 (Nintendo)
-The Wonderful 101 (Nintendo)
-Wii Fit U (Nintendo)
-Jett Tailfin (Maximum Games)
-Rayman Legends (Ubisoft)
-Toki Tori 2 (Two Tribes)
-Zumba Fitness Core (Majesco)

That launch window crap that Nintendo tried to feed to first time console buyers was a pure lie to get some systems sold, clearly the best games and the ones that people wanted the most were all postponed. I wonder why the WiiU is doing so bad in the sales department?

[azeke]

FAST Racing League sequel appears to be on the way!

[NWR_insanolord]

Why the hell not give them F-Zero? Nintendo doesn't seem to have any interest in the series, and these guys have demonstrated at least some competence with that type of game.

[azeke]

Why the hell not give them F-Zero?

Shin'en is ridiculously small. They're like five guys and apparently they want to keep it that way.

F-Zero status would require a lot more work that they can or want to do.

Unless they've been secretly doing it for the last few years...

Yeah, naah.

[tendoboy1984]

Epic is in Microsoft's pocket with their Gears of War franchise, so I doubt they'd do anything exclusive for Nintendo or Sony.

[tendoboy1984]

Why the hell not give them F-Zero?

Shin'en is ridiculously small. They're like five guys and apparently they want to keep it that way.

F-Zero status would require a lot more work that they can or want to do.

Unless they've been secretly doing it for the last few years...

Yeah, naah.

They made FAST Racing League, so they could easily make F-Zero.

[Soren]

FIFA 14 announced for current gen systems. But at least they made sure to include this nugget at the end of the presser.

Additional platforms will be revealed in the months ahead.

[Caterkiller]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RichIGN/status/324537006938013698

US August 4th!

What's bigger than a window? Cause the joke would go that's not a launch window, that's a launch something erother . 

Edit: I'm late again I see.