Author Topic: Wii U - e3 is over... now what? (Read 1592714 times)

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #3850 on:** August 21, 2012, 10:44:48 PM »

As someone in what I believe was another thread pointed out, we've got barely anything that actually uses the full 1080p as is, so anything more than that's a waste at this point. Basically you've got Blurays and that's about it. Broadcast HDTV and most games are natively 720p (actually, I think some TV is still 1080i), although they can be and often are upscaled to 1080p.

Kairon · « **Reply #3851 on:** August 21, 2012, 10:48:58 PM »

Quote from: noname2200 on August 21, 2012, 10:25:33 PM

Oh Kairon. If you spend all your money keeping TV manufacturers afloat, who would spend all their money to keep video game publishers going? You play too valuable a role in the ecosystem to abandon it!

Thank god I have you to keep me on the straight and narrow noname2200! <3

Kytim89 · « **Reply #3852 on:** August 22, 2012, 12:27:36 AM »

Here are list of Virtual Console games that I think will be released onto the Wii U's Virtual Console, but not the Wii's Virtual Console:

Contra: Hard Corps
Castlevania: Bloodlines
Rocket Knight Adventures
Yoshi's Island
Star Fox (SNES)
Megaman X3
Megman VII
Donkey Kong 64

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #3853 on:** August 22, 2012, 07:11:24 AM »

I wouldn't be so sure on Donkey Kong 64. A big reason (maybe the main reason) it hasn't been released on the VC is because the game requires you to play through some games now owned by Microsoft (like Jetpac) in order to progress through the game. This means Nintendo would either need to reach a deal with MS to include them, or go back in and reprogram the game to change that.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #3854 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:55:21 AM »

Doesn't the pixels get to a point where it no longer matters because the human eye can't detect them? We can't see Bacteria or distant planets with our naked eye, so what difference do all these pixels on the TV make? With HD there was a clear improvement over SD, and 4K is probably a good improvement over HD, but isn't 8K getting about ridiculous? Who the hell is going to be able to tell the difference? Unless you are Geordi LaForge with his super enhanced visor vision you probably won't.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #3855 on:** August 22, 2012, 09:05:30 AM »

Even 4K you won't be able to unless you have a massive TV. Even then, it won't be a big improvement.

Oblivion · « **Reply #3856 on:** August 22, 2012, 12:11:55 PM »

Speaking of, LG just showed off that crazy TV that apparently makes 1080p look like bad jpeg.

tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #3857 on:** August 22, 2012, 01:04:58 PM »

It's really amazing how far LG and Samsung have come in the past decade. I remember when Korean companies made shitty electronics. Now Samsung is the number one electronics company in the world, ahead of Sony and Panasonic.

I still wouldn't buy a Kia or Hyundai car.

Kytim89 · « **Reply #3858 on:** August 22, 2012, 01:15:27 PM »

Quote from: TJ Spyke on August 22, 2012, 07:11:24 AM

I wouldn't be so sure on Donkey Kong 64. A big reason (maybe the main reason) it hasn't been released on the VC is because the game requires you to play through some games now owned by Microsoft (like Jetpac) in order to progress through the game. This means Nintendo would either need to reach a deal with MS to include them, or go back in and reprogram the game to change that.

They could simply remove Jetpac and replace with the first level of Super Mario Brothers.

Louieturkey · « **Reply #3859 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:26:39 PM »

Quote from: NWR_insanolord on August 21, 2012, 10:44:48 PM

As someone in what I believe was another thread pointed out, we've got barely anything that actually uses the full 1080p as is, so anything more than that's a waste at this point. Basically you've got Blurays and that's about it. Broadcast HDTV and most games are natively 720p (actually, I think some TV is still 1080i), although they can be and often are upscaled to 1080p.

I do know most CBS OTA broadcasts are 1080i. Most of the other channels are 720p though. Very few people can see a difference between these resolutions anyways. At least with gaming, 1080p is more than enough for at least the next 10 years I think.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #3860 on:** August 22, 2012, 10:06:54 PM »

Very few console games natively support 1080p right now; current hardware is barely capable of it. I get the impression that most Wii U games won't do it because it also has to output the resolution of the GamePad screen, though maybe that will change over time. PS4 and 720 will be able to do it more easily, but I don't know that too many of them will beyond just showing off that they can. Higher native resolution means higher res textures, which means more money. Anything beyond 1080p is pointless.

Kytim89 · « **Reply #3861 on:** August 23, 2012, 01:41:12 AM »

Things that I am looking forward to with the Wii U:

Wii, Dreamcast, Saturn and Gamecube Virtual Console.
The ability to play Wii games on the Wii U's Game Pad controller.
A more robust support for the Virtual Console.
Third party support for games in the past, present and future.
More independant developers supporting the eShop (Mommy's Best Games).
A competent online system for the next Smash Brothers game.
Some kind of cloud based subscription servive for Virtual Console.
Steam and Origin support.

Evan_B · « **Reply #3862 on:** August 23, 2012, 01:46:59 AM »

Quote from: Kytim89 on August 23, 2012, 01:41:12 AM

Things that I am looking forward to with the Wii U:

Wii, Dreamcast, Saturn and Gamecube Virtual Console.
The ability to play Wii games on the Wii U's Game Pad controller.
A more robust support for the Virtual Console.
Third party support for games in the past, present and future.
More independant developers supporting the eShop (Mommy's Best Games).
A competent online system for the next Smash Brothers game.
Some kind of cloud based subscription servive for Virtual Console.
Steam and Origin support.

Are you implying something? Some of these haven't been confirmed...

Oblivion · « **Reply #3863 on:** August 23, 2012, 01:49:13 AM »

If any.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #3864 on:** August 23, 2012, 02:15:34 AM »

I think that is just Kytime's wishlist. I don't think he was implying anything.

Louieturkey · « **Reply #3865 on:** August 23, 2012, 03:16:08 AM »

If you go back 50 pages on this thread, you'll probably find a bunch of these lists that Kytim has made. He randomly decides he wants to see what others think of the ideas that he's been coming up with so he makes a list and see how people respond.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #3866 on:** August 23, 2012, 04:07:39 AM »

There ain't nothing wrong with him doing that, though. Others can do it too if they want.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #3867 on:** August 23, 2012, 07:02:33 AM »

Quote from: Oblivion on August 23, 2012, 01:49:13 AM

If any.

To be fair, GameCube games on the Wii U's Virtual Console has been confirmed. And more third party support for it has too (Trine 2: Director's Cut and Cloudberry Kingdom).

Kairon · « **Reply #3868 on:** August 23, 2012, 07:19:15 AM »

Quote from: TJ Spyke on August 23, 2012, 07:02:33 AM

Quote from: Oblivion on August 23, 2012, 01:49:13 AM
If any.

To be fair, GameCube games on the Wii U's Virtual Console has been confirmed.

Can you remind me where? I can't remember if it was actually confirmed or if Iwata just went "You know, that'd be nice wouldn't it? *laughs*"

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #3869 on:** August 23, 2012, 07:23:09 AM »

From a interview with a NOA executive in July 2011: http://news.yahoo.com/wii-u-virtual-console-gamecube-games-says-nintendo-144430015.html

Kairon · « **Reply #3870 on:** August 23, 2012, 07:51:55 AM »

Quote from: TJ Spyke on August 23, 2012, 07:23:09 AM

From a interview with a NOA executive in July 2011: http://news.yahoo.com/wii-u-virtual-console-gamecube-games-says-nintendo-144430015.html

Thanks. It's a pretty clear statement, so I guess the hope now is that this isn't something where NOA reps say something very early on that later turns out to be untrue when the actual product comes out.

Louieturkey · « **Reply #3871 on:** August 23, 2012, 03:15:17 PM »

Quote from: Kairon on August 23, 2012, 07:51:55 AM

Quote from: TJ Spyke on August 23, 2012, 07:23:09 AM
From a interview with a NOA executive in July 2011: http://news.yahoo.com/wii-u-virtual-console-gamecube-games-says-nintendo-144430015.html

Thanks. It's a pretty clear statement, so I guess the hope now is that this isn't something where NOA reps say something very early on that later turns out to be untrue when the actual product comes out.

We'll get Super Mario Sunshine and Mario Kart Double Dash, and that's it.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #3872 on:** August 23, 2012, 03:18:30 PM »

I actually will punch Reggie this time if we don't get HD Wind Waker.

Louieturkey · « **Reply #3873 on:** August 23, 2012, 03:20:25 PM »

Quote from: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2012, 03:18:30 PM

I actually will punch Reggie this time if we don't get HD Wind Waker.

So you want an HD remake?

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #3874 on:** August 23, 2012, 03:42:11 PM »

Yeah, I suppose that might not fall under the Virtual Console, and neither would Rogue Squadron 2 with online co-op. Since they delayed Luigi's Mansion for 3DS, though, the least they could do is put the original on the Wii U VC.

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