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This is a follow up of the topic I opened regarding the perception of Nintendo's games and how it's affecting me. Because after something someone said in the last few days I reflected a lot.

A couple of days ago, a youtuber of my country that I follow, during his weekly livestream in which he talks with his fans, discussing about the news of the week about gaming, at one point he said something that gave me a lot to think about: "Fanboys and Haters are blind, Fanboys and Haters are ignorant, Fanboys and Haters are mean people, Fanboys and Haters don't deserve andy kind of attentions. If you learn this lesson, you'll be at peace with yourself"

His words are really wise per se... however at the same time made me thinking that the current situation on the web is just hopeless, because at the end of the day, the 90% of the people you will ever talk to on communities ARE fanboys and/or haters, and at this point they're really irredeemable, and the worst part is, for how things have "evolved" throught the years, you just can't follow any kind of passion without having to deal with them, they're just inevitable...

This is making me fearing the worst regarding all the games and animated shows I loved throught the years: if I keep watching/playing new stuff, I will have to constantly deal with them, and if I deal with them, I might get oppressed by the hate they spread, and then... coming to hate everything I loved throught these two decades...

I'm not going to put the games and animated shows I loved in my life on the line in order to get a few more ones (especially since the ones I enjoy are becoming less and less lately), so I came to a big decision that I think it will be for the best of myself: I'm going to finish what I already started, completing the shows I'm currently following and buying the remaining main Switch games... but after that... I'm going to stop following new animated shows and playing new games.

It might sound like an extremist decision, but the thing is I'm an extremely fragile person, and the web is full of really nasty people, and I really don't want to lose everything I loved because of those people, and like I said they're the vast majority of online people and they're inevitable as long you want to keep yourself informed on what is coming out.... besides, there's not much left for me to enjoy anyway (I have no animated shows to look forward for the next three years, and I don't know how many years it will take for the next Nintendo console to have a lineup strong as Switch's). I'm still going to revisit all the games and animated shows I I throught the years, but nothing beyond that.

Long story short: fanboys and haters completely killed my will of keeping going with animation and gaming, and in order to preserve what I already love I'm quitting everything.

And there you have it. I hope you understand...

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If that will be' the effective pricing, then I will do myself a further favor by quitting gaming as soon Switch ends its lifecycle.

I already talked about it enough in my own topic, but I want to bring it up again because it seems to be an overlooked problem: Things have gotten grim for gaming, as someone who is mainly a Nintendo fan. Sony fanboys have taken over the internet, they made their word "the law of gaming" and they destroyed the games of the competition, especially Nintendo's ones, by spreading a lot of deliberate hate and false informations. Because of all of that, I cannot express anymore appreciation over Nintendo games without being victim of online attacks. It's disgusting situation and as long I still get new games I will always be forced to face this crap... which is why I've decided to quit gaming for good as soon Switch ends its lifecycle next year. I'm still going to get most o the remaining major releases on the console, including the remakes (except Luigi's Mansion 2 HD), but as soon the new console is officially revealed, I will stop looking at gaming sites for good, as I will ignore what will come next.

Regardless my whole situation, it does seem that Switch's successor will not replicate the success of its predecessor, of these are the premises. And I have no intention of spending much more than I would. So if these are the rumors then it's yet another gops reason for me to quit gaming as soon Switch ends its course...

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 08, 2023, 05:14:29 AM »
Fine. Then it's settled: I will quit gaming as whole, as soon Switch ends its lifecycle next year. However I'm not changing what I've said: I'm still going to get the remaining worthy games that will come on the platform by then (including all the remakes of the games I never played before... which are pretty much all of them except Luigi's Mansion 2, which I did already played, and also not a personal favorite game of mine). Until then I'm still going active on it. If it can help, I can leave this place right now, but don't expect that I'm gonna take easy the direction videogames and the people who play them are going to until I quit it... Nintendo games are being destroyed, and there's nothing I can do about it.

As for this comment, again, it would be nice to get some context. Is there no way to copy and paste some examples of how Nintendo games are being destroyed and why you can't do anything about it? I'd love to be able to see what you are seeing and reading since it just isn't something I've encountered where I live.

In regards to whether you keep gaming or not when a Switch successor comes, that's up to you to decide. I just find it odd that you keep talking about how you are worried about the future of Nintendo and its games vanishing or no longer existing and being made in the future yet your solution is to quit buying their stuff in the future anyways. Isn't quitting Nintendo doing just what the fanboy lies are hoping to accomplish? Have people not buy and play their stuff? I just don't understand why not playing Nintendo stuff you still enjoy in the future is your main solution whereas not bothering to engage in online arguments with people that dislike Nintendo is an impossible solution?

Again, it is your time, money and mental health so make the decision that is the best for you in those areas. If that is the best solution than so be it. It just doesn't quite make sense to me.

It's just that I'm seeing WAYAYAYAYAY top much hate over Nintendo games in the last period, and this is not only killing my will of following new games, but also is putting my love for the games I already loved throught the years. Something that I really don't want to lose... and this fear is not coming from nothing...

Gaming is not the only thing I'm having this sort of problem... let me tell ya a story, a personal experience I had a really long time ago with another type of media: for an entire decade I've been a fan of the animated show My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, and despite it ended 4 years ago, it still remains as of now my number one personal favorite animated show. But its fandom REALLY gave me an hard time in following it because of it's really toxic behavior. During the times of the fourth season there was an episode I loved the first two times I watched it, but it got such a colossal amount of hate from the fandom that it overwhelmed me badly, to the point I came to hate the episode myself, and I considered it one of the worst eps of the series... then years later I snapped out of it, and I realized that I came to hate that episode only because the fandom did, and not because I did. But I still didn't want to rewatch it anyway, because I still freaked out at the thought of how the fandom messed me up on that, so for a while I refused to rewatch it and find an opinion on it. Only very recentely (a few months ago) I finally rewatched it and loved it like the first te times I watched it.

I told you this story to make you understand how fandoms can mess me up badly when it comes to loving things. If I'm overwhelmed by hate and negative opinion I can go in crisis... (and keep in your mind that this is not the only trouble the fandom of MLP made me go throught, but it doesn't matter in this discussion). I'm also kinda facing the same thing with The Owl House recentely (my second favorite animated show of all time): I love it with all my heart but it's getting a ton of unfair hate from online people and after my experience with My Little Pony, I won't let that happening again... which is why I've decided that aside one exception (Pokemon Horizons) I will stop following animated shows for good, after The Ghost and Molly McGee (another show I love) will end its run on January 13th next year. It's my only way to not risk to come to hate the shows I dearly love (well that and the fact that I don't have anymore animated shows to look forward to for the next three years anyway).

I know I'm going off-topic with this stories, but it's to make you understand that negative opinions on things I love can mess me up badly and can make me come to hate things I love dearly, if they overwhelm me too much. This is what's happening with Nintendo games lately, and I cannot risk to come to hate them. I even had to fight hard for years to preserve my love for XBC2 and I cannot fo it forever (the reason of why I got upset when you said about the people who hate it on this site) So if to preserve my love for them, I have to stop to play new ones. Then I have no other choice but to quit. I hope you understand.

I'm just sad that eventually the hate will spread to the point that no one will love the games again and I cannot do anything to prevent that...

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 07, 2023, 01:59:28 PM »
Also thank you a lot for making me feeling even more lonely in loving XBC2 by telling me that there are other people who hate it around here. Like if I hadn't heard enough hate for it already... no offence.

Fine. Then it's settled: I will quit gaming as whole, as soon Switch ends its lifecycle next year. However I'm not changing what I've said: I'm still going to get the remaining worthy games that will come on the platform by then (including all the remakes of the games I never played before... which are pretty much all of them except Luigi's Mansion 2, which I did already played, and also not a personal favorite game of mine). Until then I'm still going active on it. If it can help, I can leave this place right now, but don't expect that I'm gonna take easy the direction videogames and the people who play them are going to until I quit it... Nintendo games are being destroyed, and there's nothing I can do about it.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 07, 2023, 02:45:10 AM »
Regardless, I don't feel I should continue if that means putting my love for these games at risk. I will probably stop looking at gaming news as soon the next Nintendo console is announced. I'm still getting the remaining games  for the Switch, and watch the next Direct in February, but once the console is announced I'm quitting. I just hope yo not lose it until that day...

Also thank you a lot for making me feeling even more lonely in loving XBC2 by telling me that there are other people who hate it around here. Like if I hadn't heard enough hate for it already... no offence.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 06, 2023, 05:58:23 PM »
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*Gasp* Cut my words out! Those were important words!  :o ;) ;D


I'm still going to revisit the games I loved through out the years anyway, no risk in doing that. ... I'm not going to give up on the remaining Switch games, but an entire more year like this IS going to be painful,

On a different note, I'd like to know what games you do like. What have you have been playing that you really enjoy and would try to talk about? Do you have a list of favorite Switch games, for instance? Rather than just hearing about the negative effect fanboys are having on you, it would be nice to at least hear about what it is that you have wanted to share and feel you haven't been able to up to this point when it comes to your actual gaming experiences.

I'm probably going to be crucified for this, but Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is my 1° favorite game on the console, not to mention my second favorite game of all time (after Kid Icarus Uprising on 3ds). I just love so many things about this game, especially the characters. Such a shame that it's hated so much. But I still played A LOT of games on the Switch, and I cannot list them all. Other personal favorites include Super Mario Odyssey, Zelda Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, Super Smash Bros Ultimate, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario + Rabbids (both the games), Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Pikmin 4, Luigi's Mansion 3, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Pokemon Legends Arceus, Fire Emblem Engage, Metroid Dread... Like I said, a lot. I have bought about 40 games on the console and greatly enjoyed them all (I just have some grudge for Bayonetta 3. A game with which I had such a blast with, but had an ending so atrocious that I can't tell anymore if I like the game as whole... no really, the ending was so awful for me that alone ruined my experience with the game). As I said, I consider Switch the best console in terms of first party exclusives since the second Playstation, and seeing that it and its games are getting a lot of hate because of a ton of lies said by online morons... just makes me really discouraged.

I can't tell it for certain yet, but at 90% I'm going to quit gaming after Switch ends its lifecycle next year. I have no intention of buying its successors and standing this hate for another decade. If to avoid and forget about all this mess I have to sacrifice future games, then I'll do what I have to do.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 06, 2023, 11:55:06 AM »
You can still enjoy gaming in a bubble, or even look for people who share the same interests and perspectives on games discourse as you. Greg Leahy of this site’s podcast Radio Free Nintendo doesn’t engage in social media, and hearing his perspectives on gaming news and games is very refreshing.

Find the community you want, or, if you’re really willing, make it yourself. Also, this site’s Discord is much more lively.

You make it looking like if it was easy... every single community I've been in was dreadful against Nintendo, so trying again could cause me only further trouble... also I no longer have Discord, so I can't join this site's server.

At this point, I feel quitting gaming for good at the right is the only option... of course that wouldn't mean I will not play ever again. I'm still going to revisit the games I loved throught the years anyway, no risk in doing that. But I will no longer buy any new game after Switch ends its lifecycle, and I will not buy its successors. Like I said, I'm not going to go throught this for another decade, so stopping at the right time is the only option. I just hope to not bump into many more Sony fanboys until then. I'm not going to give up on the remaining Switch games, but an entire more year like this IS going to be painful, even if I try to be careful (besides, like I said, I still have to return to Twitter one last time in December, to do a thing technically unrelated to gaming, but staying on Twitter could potentially bring me into other morons...)...

I will add only this: I find incredibly shameful that the Switch and its first party library, the best one you could ever find on a console since the PS2, is being ruined by a ton of hate and lies spredt by a mass of morons. I wonder how low the entire world will fall when those people will grow... if they aren't already grown up (yes because some of the people I had to deal with were 30s...)

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 06, 2023, 08:23:22 AM »
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Heh. The thing is, many people will be blinded by the false words spredt by the haters, that they won't even bother of "figuring things out on their own". I'm not really counting on the fact that many people will realize that they've been lied...

Anyway, at this point, I'm kinda thinking of quitting gaming for good, after the end of Switch's lifecycle anyway. I just don't have intention of enduring this mess for another decade, especially since things are not going well for gaming in general, even thought Nintendo seems to be the company with the least dreadful situation right now (don't know if you read the news, but there have been multiple messes in terms of gaming lately between actors and voice actors strikes, development costs becoming higher and unsustainable, and layoffs in many software houses. Nintendo seems the be the only one that hasn't been affected by these... yet). And even so, I don't know if that would solve the problem, after all, even after taking the distances from socials, I still have trouble in forgetting what I've been throught. Seriously: the haters I dealt with in the last year were that many and really overwhelming...

All I can do for now is taking Evan_B's advice and trying to "take control of my own mind" in order to not think about it anymore, but I don't know how long it will take. And I don't know if I'll be willing to keep going with gaming as whole after that...

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 05, 2023, 04:32:43 PM »
You can only control your own thoughts, and that’s only if you have the ability to mindfully reflect on them. Getting upset with how other people act is going to stress you out. It stresses me out. But there’s only so much control you have in your life, and if others aren’t willing to meaningfully engage with you and evaluate their own biases and the information that forms them, you can’t come to some sort of compromise or understanding.

I guess that's all I needed to hear for now. I have no idea how hard it will be and how long it will take, but for now that's all I can do. Thanks for telling me this.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 05, 2023, 12:50:17 PM »
If that’s the case, then maybe it’s not the general zeitgeist, but rather, the sorts of people who frequent those sites that are the problem?

I had to delete my Twitter because I felt infectious cynicism and anger bleeding into the way I generally conversed about things I love. I’ve reduced my Reddit posting in order to avoid similar feelings, and also because people abuse the karma system on Reddit based on the strength of their bias and not the structure of a sentiment.

But here, on NintendoWorldReport, you can write tens of thousands of words on someone’s perspective of Zelda or Xenoblade without fear of judgment! It’s a lovely place.

*sigh* Yes, I know that, infact I DID take the distances from them for now (althought, I will have to use Twitter one last time in December to do one last small thing I can do only with it regarding Christmas, but we're still far now, so I can stay away from it until then), but even so, I just can't get this out of my head anyway. I mean the thought of so many games I have to heart are being destroyed by deliberate hate and lies said by a mass of morons who do this for the sake of keeping other games at the top, and that there's nothing I can do to stop it. It's just unforgivable. I don't even know if I can just accept this happening and move one on my path, the fact that is happening is something I just can't ignore...

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 05, 2023, 04:32:28 AM »
Guys... I'm serious. I HAVE been attacked by several users on the web only for expressing appreciation over Nintendo games. I cannot provide any evidence because it's mostly italian places (I'm italian) or Twitter and Reddit. If you look up on the latters, you can find many people like that anyway. But really: those places ARE dreadful...

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Nintendo Gaming / Worried about Nintendo's games future...
« on: October 04, 2023, 06:06:19 AM »
Hello everyone. I need to talk about something that isn't brought up often, and given the circumnstances and my multiple personal experiences, I need to talk about it more than ever.

This is the thing: I feel Nintendo games are becoming more and more unfairly hated lately, and that the people who love them are seen as targets of fans of other companies on the web, especially Sony's ones. And I'm saying this after a lot of experiences of being attacked by hundreds of people on forums for the mere reason of expressing genuine appreciation over Nintendo games.

This really sucks, I cannot express appreciation over the games I love the most without being seen as scum, and most importantly, the reason of why this is happening sucks even more: to cut it short, the reason of why Nintendo games are becoming so hated and reviled by people, is not because of their quality (which remained really high for the whole Switch's lifecycle (aside some exceptions like most of the Pokemon games and the Mario sports games), but because of hate and false informations spredt by the fans of the competition. This really sucks and is ruining completely Nintendo's games reputation. This is growing exponentially, and I fear that if this keeps growing it will eventually make Nintendo and his games dying and vanish from the scenes. Nintendo's games are being destroyed by a mass of lies said by a mass of dirty fanboys of the competition, and there's NOTHING That can be don about to stop it...

Considering that all of this comes from personal experiences, I'm surprised nobody has talked about it at all in this place. Am I the only who sees this?

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