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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia Day 2

« on: July 10, 2007, 01:32:48 PM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
I didn't say that; quite the contrary, given his track record I'll vote any way Khush tells me to at this point in the game because his hunches are better than random shots in the dark.

But still ... where does he get those wonderful toys?

See? Vudu gets it. But does the doctor? Noooo. Although I can't argue with last night's protection. Still, want to help me tonight?


And when does voting end? In the morning again?

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia Day 2

« on: July 10, 2007, 05:27:14 AM »

Khushrenada strikes again.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia 17 Day 1

« on: July 09, 2007, 06:27:24 PM »

TVMan, if you are just checking this thread to see the latest, I ask that you check your PMs and get back to me.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia 17 Day 1

« on: July 09, 2007, 05:28:25 PM »

In other news, I just thought I'd make my usial plae to the doctor. If you're looking for someone to protect, I am always a good bet. However, if you would like to help the townie alliance that seems to be taking off, let me know and I'll tell you who the traitor is so that you can protect him, much like how I as the traitor needed protection to help the alliance.

Thanks and good night.  

[Vote TVMan]

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia 17 Day 1

« on: July 09, 2007, 03:07:48 PM »

Thanks stevey. You'll have to get rid of your first vote for me however. My vote has been removed and I am now casting a Vote TVMan ballot.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia 17 Day 1

« on: July 09, 2007, 02:08:14 PM »

Now, Stevey if you want to get out of this Stevey vs Khushrenada day one standoff again, I suggest you change your vote to TVMan. I'm leary of Spak because of his vote but I can see where he's coming from. However, TVman could be a mafia member trying to make the Khushrenada bandwagon a runaway.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia 17 Day 1

« on: July 09, 2007, 02:05:20 PM »

Oh, I see there was a discussion while I was typing.

To answer the question, I was working. I work full-time and got home just a short while ago. Perhaps you may have noticed that I haven't logged in for awhile. That might be a clue as to why I've been so quite. Also, last mafia game was an exception. I had that monday off and could devote a lot of time to the game.

[stevey]

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia 17 Day 1

« on: July 09, 2007, 02:03:03 PM »

Le sigh.

Here's something to think about. As posted in the prediction thread:

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Originally posted by: stevey
lol. Why are you trying so hard to save Khush and kill me? My predictions are that Khush must be the Mafia Investigator. Thatguy - Godfather

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Originally posted by: stevey
Vote Khush

So, you think I'm the investigator yet rather than try to keep such a good townie role around, you decide to vote for me on the first day. You also think thatguy is mafia but you decide not to vote for him. Cuckoo. Frankly, I say anyone that tries to vote for me on the first day is a very good mafia candidate. Mafia's don't want to take the chance that the doctor will protect me now and thwart your hit. Mafia members also don't want to see me last that long because of the threat I pose to any mafia.


For the record, I am a townie. I know. That sounds weak but that is the role I was given. If I need to die to prove that, that's fine. Eliminiting townies is better than townies with roles as proven by the last game. It also allows the investigator a better chance to find the godfather. Still, I will try to save myself and will vote for someone soon.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:The next next Mafia game: Calvin Ball edition.

« on: July 03, 2007, 06:25:13 PM »

First off, what is happening with Shift Key's mafia? Has that been scrapped forever? Is now just vaporware?

Second, what about the mature Unclebob mafia we were promised? Was that just another third party stringing us along and then deciding to change their tune? When will finally see some evidence of this game actually existing? It's more vaporware than Skift Key's game.

Third, I'd advise you to look up Mafia 12: Funhouse Mafia. And you'll want to read through the roles and the first day of voting. That has been the, shall I say, whackiest mafia game so far. That may give you some ideas. As well to, look up other old mafia games for roles and ideas that have been suggested and forgotten about.  

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General Chat / RE:Transformers: New Live Action Film. Power Rangers anyone?

« on: July 03, 2007, 05:50:13 PM »

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm having more fun from this thread than any other thing associated with transformers. Of course it may have something to do with the fact that I'm pure evil. And that's right. I don't even like transformers that much to use a capital T when writing transformers.

Anyways, if I'm seeing things correctly, this is a war between autobots(?) and decepticons(?) and they are transforming their words into weapons and using them to attack one another all while fighting over the allspark(?) which is the speculative nature of what is "good." Both sides think they are right from their viewpoint. It really is quite fascinating.

I can't wait to see what's next. Forum users! Critics in disguise!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Civilization Revolution.

« on: June 29, 2007, 06:04:30 PM »

What? That is so strange. Why is Wii off the list? Is it because of the online element? Not to mention with Revolution in the title, it seemed like this was built more for the Wii. That is so sad. I guess this should be moved to handhelds now. I'm not to sure how well a handheld version will do.

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Nintendo Gaming / Civilization Revolution.

« on: June 29, 2007, 04:37:55 PM »

Holy crap! How did this not get noticed today? Sid Meier is coming back to Nintendo and bringing Civ with him. Now admittedly, it's not just Nintendo but seems to be for all consoles. Also, it seems like this is going to be a different Civ experience but still. This is great news. I've been thinking for awhile now that Civilization would be a great game to bring back to consoles and it appears Sid and the team at Firaxis have realized that also.


Here's the press release. Click to read! The most interesting comment part about the release is Sid's comment that: "Civilization Revolution is the game I've always wanted to make!" Now I'm really wondering what this game is going to be like if he's been wanting to make a game like this for awhile. In fact, they even mention this quote in the trailer.


And here is the trailer from the official site. Sadly, it takes longer to load than it does to click on this sentence and see the greatness of Civ and Sid.


I wonder if more will be shown for E3 or if we'll have to wait around for more news. But at least 2008 is starting to have some great titles to look forward to.

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General Chat / RE:The NHL are dolts

« on: June 29, 2007, 03:51:30 PM »

Hey. We have a perfectly good hockey thread already. Nice big hockey thread I started is linked to this sentence. It's the power of technology.

Now admittedly, that thread has a lot of talk and cheering for the Anahiem Ducks but that's understandable. They're winners. Anyways, onto this topic...


First, don't scare me like that. The team hasn't been sold yet.

But it's interesting that two of the three buyers want to re-locate the team. I'd say Nashville's days are coming to a close. Frankly, because of this sale, good players are leaving. Timonen and Hartnell have gone to the flyers. Vokoun went to Florida. Kariya is going to free agency. (I personally think he wants to go to the Ducks and join Selanne again and try to win a cup there.)

So, whoever gets this team is going to have to start re-building again. It won't be the powerful team that was challenging for first place in the west this year. If the team stays in Nashville now, I doubt they'll get more people to buy tickets because the team will be worse. Second, since everyone seems to want to relocate the team, who do you sell it to?

It seems that Leopold wanted to keep a franchise going in Nashville. But now that it seems it won't happen and the team is going to move to whoever you sell it to, how do you decide who to give it to? It seems to me, you may just want to take the most money that you can out of the deal. If so, Balsille should get the team. Like it's been pointed out, Hamilton has sold more tickets already in the hopes of a team coming than Nashville has with a team or Kansas also. Sports commentators say Leopold is a classy guy and likes the league. If that's the case, would he do what's best for the league and send the team to Canada?

Then there's the fact that Hamilton is the location. Teams in close proximity can be good for the league with rivalries. Edmonton versus Calgary for example. But if you cluster too many together, you divide the fanbase. I mean Toronto is close to Buffalo. Heck, it's close to Ottawa and Detroit even. Do you really want another team in that area fighting for fans to come to their games. I think it's worrisome to the league to have that many teams in one area. Not to mention, with more Eastern teams located together, there will be more resistance to changing the schedule of games since the East will have a more cushy road schedule.

I think if the team was going to Winnipeg or Quebec City, the team might have not had so much trouble to sell or get permission to relocate. At the same time, Bettman doesn't seem to want to let the franchis move. However, this offer to relocate to Kansas City may appeal to him instead. And that may be what decides the whole issue. I still think that if they must keep the team in the U.S. though, the best place to try might be Seattle. It's north and close to Canada so there should be quite a few fans that would attend. It's close to Vancouver also so that could start a good rivalry. The problem is they already have a lot of sport franchises there already.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:My nude photos...

« on: June 26, 2007, 05:23:05 PM »

Your nude videos, however, do exist.  

[IceCold]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl - The New Megathread, now with an ungodly amount of images

« on: June 26, 2007, 05:15:57 PM »

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Originally posted by: IceCold

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Plus, Kirby music seems to be the best when converted to symphony sound.

Makes me want to listen to Fountain of Dreams now..

While that is probably one of my top 3 favorite tracks in the game, the best Kirby music I have heard orchestrated is a track from the Orchestral Game Concert series. Orchestral Game Concert #5 has a track based on Kirby Super Star. You can learn more about the music and cd's on the Wikipedia entry of them. Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, they could just take that track and put it in the game. I'm not sure it can be topped. There are a few other good songs from these cd's that are top-notch.

Learning that much of the game may not be orchestrated is a real blow, especially when you hear how of some of these songs sound orchestrated. I know Funhouse Radio will play this song on occasion as well as a few others from these cd's. Although, if you want, you could ask me descreetly if there is another way to quickly find and listen to these songs. Like sending me a private message. No one talks to me.

On a different note,

And now it's time for......
Khushrenada's Favorite Edited Quote of the Day


Today's winner comes from this thread and blew all other competition out of the water. Congratulations Dirk Temporo!

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
I dress up as a girl, and call myself Sue

So there you have it. I hope you enjoyed today's Edited Quote. I'm Khushrenada reminding you to help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered. Goodbye everybody!

[PartyBear]

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Duuuuna na na, na nu, na na: RIDDLE TIME!

« on: June 25, 2007, 03:13:53 PM »

It's a key, people. It shouldn't have been this hard to get.  I should have ckecked this thread awhile ago.

Keyhole, when you pull the key out of the hole it gets longer and when you jerk the key, you pop the lock. Many women wore keys on a necklace that went between their breasts or kept them there for safe keeping.

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Originally posted by: Khushrenada
Because Svevan ate Nine!!! Oh wait, that, that's just kind of wierd.

Correct.  I would also have accepted a joke about definitiveness.

In that case, best riddle ever.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl - The New Megathread, now with an ungodly amount of images

« on: June 22, 2007, 06:49:33 PM »

You're missing the real injustice here. Kirby had 3 stages but was by himself. Thank goodness they've added Metaknight. Now if they will just add Dedede, we could have like 9 Kirby stages. Rock on. Plus, Kirby music seems to be the best when converted to symphony sound.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Duuuuna na na, na nu, na na: RIDDLE TIME!

« on: June 22, 2007, 04:40:31 PM »

Because Svevan ate Nine!!! Oh wait, that, that's just kind of wierd.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Futur-mafa-rama Day 4: EDIT: Today, it seems.

« on: June 21, 2007, 06:35:59 PM »

Oh, it was something along the lines of me asking if you wanted to work with me. I promised to reveal my role if you revealed yours. Then you sent something back about how you've heard stories about me already and should just vote me off now but it must be my lucky day since you will agree to the swap. I send you my role and reveal that I don't have to worry about death from mafia on day 1. Also, I can work with either mafia or townie since I have the potential to win with one or the other. You write back saying that it doesn't surprise you. You expected me to get the role and that it suits what you've heard about me. You then reveal you are the investigator. I can't believe that I found the investigator before the game has begun and we start to talk about people to investigate.

Nothing specific but that's how I remember the details.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Futur-mafa-rama Day 4: EDIT: Today, it seems.

« on: June 21, 2007, 06:25:35 PM »

No, I ended up deleting a lot of the correspondence between us. As we kept refining our info, I started deleting old messages since we had the most correspondence between each other and they didn't seem neccesary anymore. What is it you're looking for? I may remember it.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Futur-mafa-rama Day 4: EDIT: Today, it seems.

« on: June 21, 2007, 06:19:18 PM »

Comments on the game.


I think TVMan had a good game planned. But I will point out some things that might be useful for any future games he hosts. First of all, make sure the sides are balanced. When you look at it, there were 16 players, 4 were mafia. So, a quarter of the players were mafia. So to give the townies an edge, you gave them quite a few roles. The problem was, the abilities of the roles may been too powerful. Consider, going under the assumption that the mafia never loses a member, the soonest the game can be won is 4 days. Not bad. But that means Fry must survive, Leela can't be hit, the doctor never protects a target, the vigilante never kills them or a townie, and the mad scientist doesn't use his ability. Of course, there is the Wormstrom possibility but I'm not going to get into that. So, chances are, that the mafia will lose some members. Each member lost makes it harder to win the game. Especially with so many powerful townie roles. The mafia could only hope that Leela and Fry get voted out since they couldn't really hit them. They had no protection against those roles. The mafia had to try and locate Wormstrom but the only way to most likely have done that was by a lucky hit. They had no way to investigate. The investigator has a 9/15 chance of locating someone with a role at the start of the game. That number also fluctuates. Moreover, the godfather's ability to pose as a townie is limited because only 5 people are townies. The townies are quite powerful especially if even a couple worked together. The mafia has no counter for this except their numbers.

So, my advice is to be concious of the number of roles you give out and the number of townies. Often, I wait before revealing roles until an amount of players has joined that will support the roles. I also try to have at least half the roles or just under as townies. And I try to give each side a bit of an edge. So, there is usually a counter for every ability. Not all but most.

So, that is the best thing to remember for most games. One thing that you have to be aware of also is how a role can be abused. When I read about the Wormstrom role and realized what I had been given, I most likely played it in a way you did not expect. So, when I use or create a role, I try to think of any way I could abuse that role or break the game with it. Ever since the double protection in mafia 5, I always try to examine my roles. If I find something that could be done, I make a new rule or revise it. Even then, roles have been used different then I thought once in awhile but on the whole, the game ends up quite fair.

The final thing is something you couldn't do much about. Player turn-out. Sadly, not many were able to join. In such a case, you may have to cut a role. I've had to do that in the past. I didn't like it but what can you do? The numbers just won't support the roles.


Lastly, rules. I don't like killing a player due to inactivity either. I always want players to have the chance to play and not have their actions decided by the host. Because of this, if you post a rule, you have to live by it. As a host, you know the roles and can see how things are being played in the game. It can be easy to root for people and tempting to help them out. But you must remain impartial. You're chance to influence the game was with your rules and if you have them posted, you have to follow them. Even if people aren't happy with a rule, they can't argue that you're deciding the game. The rule was always posted. But, if you don't follow your own rules, then people can call into question the fairness of the game.

You did stick to the rule so I'm not calling that into question. But, if you are aware of a situation that is about to arise, then you may want to comment on it. For instance, if someone was approaching the deadline for not voting, I'll post at the beginning of the day, people who need to vote or will die. That's all you can do. Just keep reminding people of the rules.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mafia Game 17 (Special Title Coming Soon)

« on: June 21, 2007, 05:20:45 PM »

More mafia. I froth for more mafia. This is probably the fastest a new game has been set-up for mafia. But considering the speed of the last one, I think people want another one soon since they just got a quick taste of the game again. Some like Vudu would like a re-do. He's just upset that he didn't have much mafia support. I know what that's like.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Futur-mafa-rama Day 4: EDIT: Today, it seems.

« on: June 21, 2007, 05:17:10 PM »

Wow, so much to comment on. Let me start by thanking everyone for their expressions of respect. I know a lot of players have found my gameplay unique/crazy/interesting/exciting to watch but I always try my best to prove myself each game and live up to expectations. Sometimes I focus more on the failures. I'm still kicking myself over the Nuclearspeed/Stabby confusion. But, it's nice to hear so that I can hopefully use it another game. I actually don't like to post on a first day and say protect me I'm the best player or don't vote for me, I'm too valuable if I'm on your side. There are quite a few good players in this game and there are a lot that deserve respect as good players also. But sometimes I have to use that reasoning.

So, now let me address those who have posted:



Thatguy:

I knew you were doing something with Stabby to protect yourself but I wiah I had no known more. I really didn't communicate with Stabby as much as I did with others like Spak, ShyGuy, and Blackfootsteps. It probably was for the best though. When I had correctly deduced Shyguy as Zap, he sent me a message asking for info to prove Vudu was mafia. Since I knew you were doing something with Stabby to protect your identity, I told him to ask Stabby. Then, I thought about that for a moment and realized that the whole point of the townie alliance was trust. We wanted people to reveal their roles and trust us. Therefore, we should trust them also. And since Shyguy had pretty much confirmed himself as the vigilante, I just sent him a message saying the roles of the alliance and that we had investigated and confirmed Vudu as mafia.

I never heard about the back-up plan. If I knew there was doubt about Nuclearspeed, I would have tried to talk to him. The other problem with Nuclearspeed was that he sent me a message asking if I knew the doctor was going to protect me that night. I didn't know how to respond to that and the last thing I wanted to do was endanger Blackfootsteps or say the wrong thing. BFS said he had never spoken to Nuclearspeed so I thought he must be going after someone else. Therefore, I just quickly cut communication with him and started the vote. It just seemed so suspicious like a mafia godfather frustrated with a failed hit.

I'll comment more on the stabby point in my strategy post. One thing I was going to mention in the dead thread then stopped because I realized it was too much information was that Athrun was complaining about his death. I was going to say something along the lines like, at least it was just a townie role and not an actual name role. But then I realized that could endager Stevey and changed it to something else. The same goes for Day 2. People wanted BFS to go but I stuck with Dasmos. Again, a name role was saved while just a townie role was lost. Really, every name role that was saved made the alliance more powerful. We almost made it the whole game without losing one name role. Just Ziodberg didn't make it.



ShyGuy:

Are you referring to your blackmailed killer role?  Yes, if the whole strength of the mafia had been playing things would most likely have been different. Really, we only facing a two man mafia for the most part. Then when we exposed Vudu on the second day, it was pretty much a one man mafia. There were a lot of circumstances that just went right for the townies. It will be some time before we see something like this again I think.



Thatguy 2:

That's the problem with being a good player. The weaker players target you because you're good and the good players target you because you're a threat. I won't go into further detail about my thoughts in this matter since it might make me a further target but I have mentioned in the past how I choose my targets.

I wasn't really waiting for a game to build trust with other players. Just one where people took a chance on me. People don't seem to realize, if I'm on you're side, you can trust me. I was just waiting for a game where I could live a few days and get a win. I haven't had a win since Mafia 11. I've never even had the chance to go far. I've hated games where I've done a fair bit of work for the win but die and can't claim victory. Frankly, you showed more trust than me. I had nothing to lose sharing my role. You did because of the consequences of my role.

Commented on the bandwagons, will talk about new players later.




Spak:

Actually, this I'll comment on later also.



Patchkid15:

(I'll just comment on all you postings.)

Yes, this was Mafia 16. TVMan just decided not use the number with it. This is why when I host, I send people a message even if they are just a townie. Less confusion that way.

To sum up your advice, I'd say Just Trust Me. Also, even when I'm mafia, I've often been quite nice to the townies. I've helped worked hard to root out another mafia if there is one, or provide advice or see to it that some live over others. Really, I'm a nice guy.



Zach

(I'll just include all your comments together)


What? C'mon. Where's the love? I've always liked you and try to keep you around.

Now this I can't remember. What did I do to you your first game?

Yeah, I'm talking about you. When you did that, I just sick. I had made back-up plans to have myself killed by Decoyman to make him look innocent. At the same time, I was counting the days and numbers. When you pulled that move, I looked at it and said, man, that is one logical arguement. I'm screwed. So, I sat there thinking about how sad it was that things were going to be undone to soon and that I had made you a low priority target. Of course, genius and inspiration soon came to me and I was able to figure out a way to ruin your arguement. But it was hard work and for a result that might not come. It came down to a coin toss. It was just luck. Had that coin gone the other way, I think victory would have been much tougher. Even just trying to get people to vote with me, that took effort. It was only fun once it was tied and I won. But up to that point it was just a fight for life.


The doctor role isn't a problem. I'll comment on that in awhile. I'm also not sure I will be a first hit all the time. Quite a lot of players who have played before weren't around this game. Plus, there's always the danger I'll have protection now and that the hit will be a waste.


I don't know. I trust people all the time. When I get start to get suspicious of someone is when I create trouble and paranoia for myself. But, there are a lot of circumstances where I know I can trust a person. And there are some where I know to keep a healthy dose of skepticisim.


 

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TalkBack / RE:Sonic RPG? From BioWare? On DS?

« on: June 21, 2007, 03:19:02 PM »

Everyone's been talking about the source material geing from the games but I think if Bioware was to use the comic books it might be better. Although Stabby is the first to mention it and seems to hate that idea, I think the comics would be better to use. It's a completely different world from the games and more fleshed out with better characters. A lot of the characters in the comics have never appeared in the games.




On an extra note of interest, Bioware's HQ is here in Edmonton where I live. If I get the staff job, maybe I can get an interview or two on the game. Just one of those peculiar coincidences I like to point out every once in a while.

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TalkBack / RE:SimCity DS Hits Stores

« on: June 20, 2007, 06:21:30 PM »

Well, I am curious to hear the review on this game. I haven't played a Sim City game in years and what was shown before for the DS version seemed like it might be one of the best versions created. I was thinking this might be the first Sim City game I buy. But, I know better and will wait for the reviews first.