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Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« on: July 01, 2010, 10:05:03 AM »

Nintendo should have a "broader perspective" rather than bashing 3D glasses, says top Sony executive.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/23593

In an interview with IGN, Sony's president of Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida has expressed discontent with Nintendo's dismissal of the use of 3D glasses to experience 3D gaming.

At Nintendo's E3 press conference, it was repeatedly stressed that one of the strengths of the Nintendo 3DS was how it would let users experience 3D gaming without the needs for cumbersome and expensive 3D glasses.

Yoshida responded that Nintendo's message regarding 3D gaming is the same as theirs, but that they "don't have to bash some small part of what the other company is doing."  Yoshida also admitted that he had yet to get hands-on time with Nintendo's new device, but that the latest 3D glasses "are light and you kind of forget you're wearing them after awhile."

He also went so far as to say that Sony would like to work together with Nintendo to promote 3D gaming, reasoning that such cooperation would aid in advancing the industry as a whole.

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 10:28:47 AM »
Aw, widdle Sony man is butt-hurt. He should make a better product.

3DS looks so much better than 3D TV or theater projection. It's not just the glasses, but that is a significant part of it.
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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 10:31:41 AM »
Sounds to me like he is saying "Please help us promote the PlayStation 3 Nintendo".
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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 10:36:55 AM »

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2010, 10:37:37 AM »
"don't have to bash some small part of what the other company is doing."

Is this for real?  Has he seen ANY of Sony's gaming marketing or PR statements over the past 5 years?

Also, requiring users to have 3D glasses is expensive, annoying, and inconvenient.  Stating the obvious this way is hardly bashing anyone...
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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2010, 11:20:15 AM »

The Scorpion and the Frog

One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river.The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back.
Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream.
"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"
"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.
"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"
Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. "What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore!"
"This is true," agreed the scorpion, "But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river!"
"Alright then...how do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me?" said the frog.
"Ahh...," crooned the scorpion, "Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?!"
So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river. He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown. He kicked strongly through the first half of the stream, his flippers paddling wildly against the current.
Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.
"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"
The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.
"I could not help myself. It is my nature."
Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.


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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2010, 11:34:47 AM »
So whats the moral of the story?

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2010, 12:33:37 PM »
A deceptive appearance should be enough to warn you to stay away... no matter what?

Sony = the scorpion?

I suppose.
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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2010, 12:55:28 PM »
In other words, he's just mad he didn't think of it first.

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2010, 12:55:43 PM »
or Nintendo, because they were the backstabbers of Sony, but you couldn't blame Nintendo because Sony was going to have a terrible licensing deal that would hurt their business. Sony is a music company that tries to be a media/hardware company, Nintendo is a gaming company and doesn't really try to be anything else.

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2010, 01:01:40 PM »
Considering the whole Kevin Butler ad campaign is predicated on mocking aspects of Sony's competitors, this whining from Sony is just...bizarre.  Frankly, I hope (though, sadly, I know it won't) 3D crashes and burns for both companies, but Sony is obviously just pissed that Nintendo may have actually found a practical application of the technology.
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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2010, 01:06:34 PM »
Aw, widdle Sony man is butt-hurt. He should make a better product.

3DS looks so much better than 3D TV or theater projection. It's not just the glasses, but that is a significant part of it.

It really looks that much better than 3D TV or theaters?  But how much experience do you have with 3D TVs and Movies?  Perhaps adjust the sitting location helps (not easy to do in a theater, but much more feasible for home entertainment).  I've never seen modern 3D, just red/blue glasses.  I've got some Sly Cooper 3 glasses from E3 2005 that I use to watch various Youtube videos in anticipation of the DS.  Even this old tech works surprisingly well if you have good material and it's being displayed at an appropriate size.

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2010, 01:21:47 PM »
Considering the whole Kevin Butler ad campaign is predicated on mocking aspects of Sony's competitors, this whining from Sony is just...bizarre, but Sony is obviously just pissed that Nintendo may have actually found a practical application of the technology.

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2010, 04:52:48 PM »
This just reeks of the fact that Sony is in a tight spot with their 3-D solution, and they know it. If there is one barrier to a perfect 3-D experience, it's wearing those glasses. As someone who has no interest in 3-D so as long as those are around, Nintendo is appealing directly to me. I know there are millions of others out there just like me -- far more than there are who could actually afford expensive 3-D glasses and televisions.

I wouldn't worry too much about Sony, though. I am sure they will do alright with their 3-D solution as soon as they get porn companies on board.

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2010, 08:19:55 PM »

"...the latest 3D glasses "are light and you kind of forget you're wearing them after awhile.""


I don't give a crap.  When you already wear glasses, having to wear other glasses at the same time is awkward and uncomfortable.

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2010, 08:58:03 PM »

The Scorpion and the Frog

To be fair, Nintendo was the one who tried to screw Sony all those years ago...
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2010, 01:55:54 AM »

The Scorpion and the Frog

To be fair, Nintendo was the one who tried to screw Sony all those years ago...

How so, because that's not how the story goes in the version I heard.

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2010, 01:57:11 AM »
keep the past where it belongs

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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2010, 01:59:36 AM »
Really? I thought that Nintendo was just trying to get out of getting screwed by Sony in the first place.
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2010, 02:24:47 AM »
Here's what I vaguely remember.
Nintendo worked out a deal with Sony where they supplied some of the audio parts for the SNES in exchange, Sony got first dibs on working with Nintendo to build an SNES CD-Add on.

Nintendo didn't like the deal they had inked with Sony (I believe Sony got "too much" of the profits from SNES-CD titles), so they went behind Sony's back and started working on a deal with Philips.  Sony found out and Nintendo had to back out of the Philips deal (later became the CD-i with full license to Nintendo characters, thus the now infamous Zelda CD-i titles).  So, Nintendo reluctantly started working with Sony.  Besides not liking the deal, SEGA released the CD add on for the Genesis and it was bombing so bad that Nintendo desperately wanted out of this deal with Sony.  They had one way out - they had to convince Sony that their system would do better on the market as a stand-alone product.  Obviously, we all know how that worked out.

I might have a few of the details wrong, but that's what I remember.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2010, 03:03:26 AM »
I think you have most of the details wrong.

From what I remember Nintendo inked a deal with Sony to work on the SNES CD but Nintendo then found some funky wording in the contract that states Sony retains all rights to anything released on the CD format including Nintendo IP's

That's when Nintendo when behind Sony's back to Phillips and Sony didn't find out till that CES when Nintendo announced the partnership. Nintendo then decided to back out of the Phillips deal too and Sony took it's hard work and released it as the Playstation, since that is the one thing they retained from the deal besides the controller design (minus the d-pad) and launched it in direct competition with Nintendo.

Sony tried to play Nintendo so Nintendo tried to play Sony back. Sony got the first couple of laughs, but what goes around comes around.

and now...... (wait for it)

Iwata: (Laughs)

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2010, 07:04:40 AM »
This reminds me of something happening 3½ years ago, when Microsoft tried to play hurt that Nintendo wouldn't back the Wii60 initiative.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2010, 10:51:21 AM »
I think you have most of the details wrong.

From what I remember Nintendo inked a deal with Sony to work on the SNES CD but Nintendo then found some funky wording in the contract that states Sony retains all rights to anything released on the CD format including Nintendo IP's

That's when Nintendo when behind Sony's back to Phillips and Sony didn't find out till that CES when Nintendo announced the partnership. Nintendo then decided to back out of the Phillips deal too and Sony took it's hard work and released it as the Playstation, since that is the one thing they retained from the deal besides the controller design (minus the d-pad) and launched it in direct competition with Nintendo.

Sony tried to play Nintendo so Nintendo tried to play Sony back. Sony got the first couple of laughs, but what goes around comes around.

and now...... (wait for it)

Iwata: (Laughs)

That's mostly what I said... isn't it?
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Re: Sony Wishes to Work with Nintendo to Promote 3D
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2010, 11:09:17 AM »
sorta, but not really. the difference was in the details ;)

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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2010, 06:30:34 PM »
The hypocrisy here is absolutely delicious. Can I please have some more?

As far as who screwed who, here's what Wikipedia has to say:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation#Origins